MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 01:54:04 PM |
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What happened:: I was buying PTP invite from him for 150$ and after the money was sent he blocked me and disappeared. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114672Amount Scammed: About 0.016btc or 150$ Payment Method: BTC Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/6e2caaa3491dd5b43169c0ae5f9fc26090b9b7dbae7a5f30cb7fc728bf9f83fbPM/Chat Logs: I don't have them. We were talking over Terminal (yeah I get it now that it was a big mistake) and he deleted all the messages after the scam. Additional Notes: This sucks very much and I would like people to learn from me being dumb. I get it now that there were red flags all around, I was just careless and naive but I'll take it as a learning experiences, but you don't have to. If this guy contacts you, stay the fuck away.
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Jawhead999
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May 19, 2020, 02:04:52 PM Last edit: May 19, 2020, 03:07:53 PM by Jawhead999 |
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Sorry for your lost But I just thought, how you can trust this user? Because he was already got 4 negative feedback from DT members, no need to trust users who have negative feedback. Since the account was got negative feedback in the past, I think nothing we can do unless ignoring this scammer. Before trade with someone be sure to check their reputation first and use Escrow for safely. You can check many bitcointalk escrow here Recommended bitcointalk escrow services
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SoggyLettuce
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May 19, 2020, 02:17:59 PM |
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What? So I can basicaly post a random Blockchain transaction? And call someone a scammer and what surprises me the most people will actualy say "sorry for your loss"? this is dumb, and you sir are pathetic, show proof if I actualy scammed you..
What the fk is a ppt invite? Where do i even advertise selling that?
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MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 02:29:35 PM |
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Sorry for your lose But I just thought, how you can trust this user? Because he was already got 4 negative feedback from DT members, no need to trust users who have negative feedback. Since the account was got negative feedback in the past, I think nothing we can do unless ignoring this scammer. Before trade with someone be sure to check their reputation first and use Escrow for safely. You can check many bitcointalk escrow here Recommended bitcointalk escrow servicesYeah in the hindsight I can see how dumb and naive I was but I've never been scammed before so I guess I had that "that won't happen to me" attitude and I paid for it but at least now I'm wiser, or at least I hope I am.
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MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 02:35:46 PM |
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What? So I can basicaly post a random Blockchain transaction? And call someone a scammer and what surprises me the most people will actualy say "sorry for your loss"? this is dumb, and you sir are pathetic, show proof if I actualy scammed you..
What the fk is a ppt invite? Where do i even advertise selling that?
Hahaha misspelling PTP is a nice touch I gotta admit and yes I don't have much proof because you deleted our telegram conversation but I have your PM which proves that you know about PTP and that you were offering to sell it to me so don't act dumb. Proof:https://i.imgur.com/pmB4WZ4.png
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TalkStar
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May 19, 2020, 02:40:37 PM |
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Yeah in the hindsight I can see how dumb and naive I was but I've never been scammed before so I guess I hade that "that won't happen to me" attitude and I paid for it but at least now I'm wiser, or at least I hope I am.
This user have already got multiple negative trust on his profile and sorry to say that you missed or didn't take it seriously before making deal with him. Its really hurting when we try our best to keep community users safer from this kinda proven scammers but you guys don’t bother about open flags or negative trusts. By the way at last you realized that you have done a big mistake by avoiding his trust area. Hope you will take it as a lesson and newbies will be aware about this kinda heartless scammer. You can make a short visit here, ★ List of Proven Scammers ( Bitcointalk users Only) ★
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SoggyLettuce
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May 19, 2020, 02:44:45 PM |
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A screenie can be easily edited/photoshopped, I'd like a Mod or Admin to verify your saying and proove who is telling the truth and who is lieing here.
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MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 02:47:57 PM |
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Yeah in the hindsight I can see how dumb and naive I was but I've never been scammed before so I guess I hade that "that won't happen to me" attitude and I paid for it but at least now I'm wiser, or at least I hope I am.
This user have already got multiple negative trust on his profile and sorry to say that you missed or didn't take it seriously before making deal with him. Its really hurting when we try our best to keep community users safer from this kinda proven scammers but you guys don’t bother about open flags or negative trusts. By the way at last you realized that you have done a big mistake by avoiding his trust area. Hope you will take it as a lesson and newbies will be aware about this kinda heartless scammer. You can make a short visit here, ★ List of Proven Scammers ( Bitcointalk users Only) ★ Yeah I completely blame myself. He's just a lowlife with no other skills but to scam people and yeah this was a lesson for me for sure and I hope some other new users will learn from this and not repeat the mistakes I did. I'll keep that list in mind, thank you. Can this guy be added there? I believe there's sufficient proof floating around at this point that he's a scammer.
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MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 03:06:11 PM |
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A screenie can be easily edited/photoshopped, I'd like a Mod or Admin to verify your saying and proove who is telling the truth and who is lieing here.
Dude don't embarrass yourself lol. Why in the world would I try to frame some random guy for scamming? If any mod or admin wants to verify any of this, I'm glad to help cause you maybe got my money but I'll do everything I can to spread awareness that you are a lowlife scamming piece of shit and that people should stay away from you.
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Harkorede
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May 19, 2020, 03:43:54 PM Last edit: May 19, 2020, 04:31:48 PM by Harkorede |
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A screenie can be easily edited/photoshopped, I'd like a Mod or Admin to verify your saying and proove who is telling the truth and who is lieing here.
Dude don't embarrass yourself lol. Why in the world would I try to frame some random guy for scamming? If any mod or admin wants to verify any of this, I'm glad to help cause you maybe got my money but I'll do everything I can to spread awareness that you are a lowlife scamming piece of shit and that people should stay away from you. Yes a Moderator/Staff can actually help you verify your claim that he sent that PM, just click on the "Report to Moderator" in the bottom corner of the PM and then in the "description box" and include a link to this post and ask the Moderator to post here to help you verify the PM. It should always be escrow or no trade if you're dealing with a user that has nothing to lose. The extra few bucks in fees would always be nothing to compared to the potential irrecoverable loss.
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MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 04:33:43 PM |
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A screenie can be easily edited/photoshopped, I'd like a Mod or Admin to verify your saying and proove who is telling the truth and who is lieing here.
Dude don't embarrass yourself lol. Why in the world would I try to frame some random guy for scamming? If any mod or admin wants to verify any of this, I'm glad to help cause you maybe got my money but I'll do everything I can to spread awareness that you are a lowlife scamming piece of shit and that people should stay away from you. Yes a Moderator/Staff can actually help you verify your claim that he sent that PM, just click on the "Report to Moderator" in the bottom corner of the PM and then in the "description box" and include a link to this post and ask the Moderator to post here to help you verify the PM. It should always be escrow or no trade if you're dealing with a user that has nothing to lose. The extra few bucks in fees would always be nothing to compared to the potential irrecoverable loss. Thank you, I reported the message. Yeah I'm definitely never going again with no escrow.
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Avirunes
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May 19, 2020, 05:03:02 PM |
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This is really wierd. I never knew that Telegram had option to delete conversation from both sides. At least there shouldn't be ability for a user to delete messages send by the other person from both sides. I don't think Telegram is now a suitable way on handing conversation until this is up.
I would have added a feedback but given the lack of chat screenshots I won't. Perhaps will add based on past accusations.
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SoggyLettuce
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May 19, 2020, 05:22:38 PM |
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Maybe because what he's actualy saying is a lie? And he might be a vcc seller competitor trying to ruin my reputation?
I'm waiting for mod/admin to verify that "PM" of mine
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MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 05:28:31 PM |
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This is really wierd. I never knew that Telegram had option to delete conversation from both sides. At least there shouldn't be ability for a user to delete messages send by the other person from both sides. I don't think Telegram is now a suitable way on handing conversation until this is up.
I would have added a feedback but given the lack of chat screenshots I won't. Perhaps will add based on past accusations.
Yeah there is an option to do that, when you are deleting a conversation you get a prompt where you can select that the conversation gets deleted for all members. I think you should consider adding feedback, he was already caught lying about not knowing what I was talking about and now when that's out of the window he's spewing nonsense about me being a competitor of whatever, these kinds of people should not be allowed to continue poisoning the community and labeling a scammer with negative feedbacks is at least what we can do.
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SoggyLettuce
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May 19, 2020, 05:30:50 PM |
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I'm not lieing I still dont even know what the fuck a ptp invite is you dumbass, we'll we when a mod /admin verifies your saying, truth will triumph.
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MostDefinitely (OP)
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May 19, 2020, 05:36:14 PM |
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I'm not lieing I still dont even know what the fuck a ptp invite is you dumbass, we'll we when a mod /admin verifies your saying, truth will triumph.
Don't you worry, I've reported your message to the moderators. Yes the truth will triumph and when it does you'll look like a even bigger scumbag.
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TalkStar
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May 19, 2020, 05:52:41 PM |
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This is really wierd. I never knew that Telegram had option to delete conversation from both sides. At least there shouldn't be ability for a user to delete messages send by the other person from both sides. I don't think Telegram is now a suitable way on handing conversation until this is up.
Facebook messenger have similar option for message sender where you can remove the message for both side within 10 minutes but telegram have no time limits for message removing system. That's why in recent time most scammer use telegram for dealing or service related conversation and easily erase all chat history after completing the scam. In that case these scammer talk cleverly and after removing chat history victims can't provide full conversation screenshots from their side. I would have added a feedback but given the lack of chat screenshots I won't. Perhaps will add based on past accusations.
Before getting moderators response here its better to tag this user based on his past account selling activities. After having moderators response here i will suggest "OP" to open a proper flag against this user.
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SoggyLettuce
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May 19, 2020, 06:17:43 PM |
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"Before getting moderators response here its better to tag this user based on his past account selling activities. After having moderators response here i will suggest "OP" to open a proper flag against this user. "
Selling accounts is clearly not against the rules, so you should read the rules before actualy trying to quote them...
@ talkstar
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JeromeTash
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May 19, 2020, 06:19:50 PM |
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Why would you continue to deal with someone who already has been negged for suspicious/scammy behavior in the past by DT members without even thinking of using a trusted escrow service?
In fact, I am even thinking of creating a flag against them so that newbies and guests don't become the next victims, but I will wait for the Mods to first confirm about the PM thou i highly doubt OP edited the message.
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May 19, 2020, 06:35:19 PM |
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Yes a Moderator/Staff can actually help you verify your claim that he sent that PM, just click on the "Report to Moderator" in the bottom corner of the PM and then in the "description box" and include a link to this post and ask the Moderator to post here to help you verify the PM.
You're saying mods have open access to PM's ?? I find that disturbing especially on a forum like this. Never was aware of that and while in cases/disputes like this it would be good but I do find it to be a bit intrusive. On most forums they do NOT for privacy reasons. That being said I've never seen a mod confirm or not confirm anyone's personal messages when asked to do so. Of course I haven't read every message on the system either so I guess it might be true!
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