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I found in a post here few days ago a website called whale-alert.io where one of the data's i can get is transactions of large amount of BTC to an exchange.
here is the question, Lets say i get a message that there is a transaction of 100BTC to the exchange i'm currently using. I can assume that it can affect the trade in some way , can look for changes in this amount of BTC in the order book but is this info can tell me somehow if the intention of the whale is to pull up or down the market ? How reliable this type of data can be ? Same scenario can be of leaving the exchange..
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how accurate is the information flowing in whale-alert.io? looking for changes in the order book must be hard to do if its not even accurate. probably not a reliable data. i don't know if anyone is actually using its data to watch the market and do something to profit.
there could be a lot of things that will happen when you see some information in that whale-alert.io. transaction like 1000BTC from bittrex to binance, i don't know how to react to that since it likely from a guy who does arbitrage. or he could be buying some altcoins not found in bittrex? 1000BTC from unknown wallet to binance. does it mean this guy is going to dump? i wouldn't disregard charts all because of those info.
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I found in a post here few days ago a website called whale-alert.io where one of the data's i can get is transactions of large amount of BTC to an exchange.
here is the question, Lets say i get a message that there is a transaction of 100BTC to the exchange i'm currently using. I can assume that it can affect the trade in some way , can look for changes in this amount of BTC in the order book but is this info can tell me somehow if the intention of the whale is to pull up or down the market ? How reliable this type of data can be ? Same scenario can be of leaving the exchange..
I personally wouldn't use any such data for my own trading. Also wouldn't encourage anyone to do so. Because what you will do with the high value transaction data unless you know the mindset of the owner of such transaction? By the time you see his intention in order book, the Trade is already lost. Use your own intuition and try to learn various trading strategies. There's no quick way to get rich!
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I don't think such data will benefit your trading lifestyle, in fact it might just ruin your game plan in trading why? because a big movement in the market will give you a direct reason to move also. On top of that being alerted to this thing, if it alerts you then most probably it is being executed at the moment, meaning there is a small amount of time or no time to react at all. @Avikz is right, it's better to trade on your own capacity, try not to rely on this kind of data services or at least be wary.
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I don't think there is actually any way to understand what that "whale" wants to do. You shouldn't predict whats going to happen to your investment based on those movement. Your predictions might be wrong and you might end up making huge loss. There are thousands of bitcoins entering and leaving an exchange, I wonder how they know that those funds belongs to a "whale".
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I don't think there is actually any way to understand what that "whale" wants to do. You shouldn't predict whats going to happen to your investment based on those movement. Your predictions might be wrong and you might end up making huge loss. There are thousands of bitcoins entering and leaving an exchange, I wonder how they know that those funds belongs to a "whale".
And also you wont able to know if those BTC would be either traded with some alts or whatsoever thats why tracing it up would really be hard. I dont know why people are really that much concern on whale moves yet identifying which one would really be hard.Lets say there are indeed some alerts, then whats next? As said there are huge volumes of btc incoming and outgoing ones and identifying a particular whale move is nearly impossible.
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May 19, 2020, 09:57:27 PM |
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There can be many reason associated to the movement of large sum of BTC. It is not possible to point out what reason has caused such a movement. I would not recommend any one to follow such website to decide your trading strategies. I think it is better to check other sources like news and current trends to analyse Bitcoins movement.
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May 19, 2020, 10:36:22 PM |
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I found in a post here few days ago a website called whale-alert.io where one of the data's i can get is transactions of large amount of BTC to an exchange.
here is the question, Lets say i get a message that there is a transaction of 100BTC to the exchange i'm currently using. I can assume that it can affect the trade in some way , can look for changes in this amount of BTC in the order book but is this info can tell me somehow if the intention of the whale is to pull up or down the market ? How reliable this type of data can be ? Same scenario can be of leaving the exchange..
Most times when huge amount of funds are deposited into exchange platform, it doesn't neccessarily mean that the buy orders of bitcoin will increase drasticallly, there are several reasons to deposit, it could be to buy immediately, or wait for a bear market, or place a buy order. With so many tokens listed on an exchange, it is difficult to know which and which will be selected for purchase. Yours is to dyor, follow market emotions, and make your trades.
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I hope we are aware of this and whales could actually manipulate our minds the same thing as they could able to manipulate the market. 100BTC? Thought that whales are making out from crypto. maybe we are wrong but it might probably just a transfer to another exchanger. For this, I say that it never gives a huge market effect in the market but rather to see a normal case scenario. Yet, it happens multiple times since before.
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I can assume that it can affect the trade in some way , can look for changes in this amount of BTC in the order book but is this info can tell me somehow if the intention of the whale is to pull up or down the market ?
You can freely see all the buy/sell offers on exchanges as order books are open anyway, but you won't know who made that buy/sell offer. You can only make your own assumptions: Deposit: most likely a sell offer some time in the future Withdrawal: probably an exchange hack, or a person simply withdrawing funds to their own non-custodial wallet or to another exchange
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Deposit: most likely a sell offer some time in the future
Margin exchanges add a whole other layer of obscurity: whales may be depositing coins to back a margin long position. It can be dangerous to assume they are dumping. They may be doing the opposite. This applies to many of the larger exchanges. Bitmex, Binance, Bitfinex, Kraken, Coinbase Pro, etc.
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I found in a post here few days ago a website called whale-alert.io where one of the data's i can get is transactions of large amount of BTC to an exchange.
I'm familiar with this twitter account, but I haven't follow, it just messed up everything, including your trades. here is the question, Lets say i get a message that there is a transaction of 100BTC to the exchange i'm currently using. I can assume that it can affect the trade in some way , can look for changes in this amount of BTC in the order book but is this info can tell me somehow if the intention of the whale is to pull up or down the market ? How reliable this type of data can be ? Same scenario can be of leaving the exchange..
Obviously, there are some bad intentions from behind, but just like I said, don't bother to look at this whale alert or something. You will be good in trading without it. Don't be affected by it, trade at your own pace and not let someone influence you, just saying.
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I don't really trust the message like that. If you don't know if the news is real or not, then you can skip away, and only analyze more at the market. If 100btc is on the way to exchange, you don't have to worry because that does not always make the market will go down. That is why you need to use your skills to analyze what kind of scenario if the market is down or is up so you can know what you need to do related to the market. Don't panic with the amount of bitcoin, but you need to prepare yourself for any situations and conditions. That is the important thing that you must do.
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I found in a post here few days ago a website called whale-alert.io where one of the data's i can get is transactions of large amount of BTC to an exchange.
This website or even the bot featured of whale alert only concern with certain amount of BTC there is none information aside from its value and quantity were shown as its not prohobited and will never be of course for every whales protection too. I don't really trust the message like that. If you don't know if the news is real or not, then you can skip away, and only analyze more at the market. If 100btc is on the way to exchange, you don't have to worry because that does not always make the market will go down.
They are coders and programmers to set certain parameters to alert about certain amount of BTC so most likely its true. Its actually helpful on delieneating the possible movement or the dumps or pumps that could happened but not entirely right Ive noticed the movement but I do hope they also include most major exchanges and not only famous one so we can see a much bigger holdings of whales moving funds either its BTC, usdt or any other top altcoins.
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It doesn't tell you what those people are doing with that getting in or getting out move. If a person sends over a thousand bitcoin to an exchange, it could be to sell their bitcoin, we are not sure about this, we have no proof that they will do it, only data we have is the fact that they had that money on their offline wallets and now they sent it to an exchange so one can assume that they will sell it but we can't prove it.
Or maybe when they take out from exchange and put it on their wallets, we could see that there is a certain amount away from trading which creates scarcity trading and less amount of bitcoin available for trading, which could cause the price to go up, that is an assumption as well because that person could switch back to exchange and sell right away too. So it tells us what they "may" do but not what they "will" do.
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The whales entering and exiting the exchange simply tells us the direction of market from the numbers of coin that goes in or out of the exchanges. Total of them from different exchanges helps traders to predict or know an idea of number of particular coin in circulation and whether volume is manipulated even from cmc too.
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I found in a post here few days ago a website called whale-alert.io where one of the data's i can get is transactions of large amount of BTC to an exchange. Creation Date: 2018-12-19T12:31:54ZSource: https://whois.domaintools.com/whale-alert.iostrange I never heard of them here is the question, Lets say i get a message that there is a transaction of 100BTC to the exchange i'm currently using. I can assume that it can affect the trade in some way , can look for changes in this amount of BTC in the order book but is this info can tell me somehow if the intention of the whale is to pull up or down the market ? How reliable this type of data can be ? Same scenario can be of leaving the exchange.. you will only have one thing to do: wait and see what will happen in the market. don't panic and don't think too much about what the whale intends to do, just focus on your trade. Of course, you should always assume that some dump comes
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I found in a post here few days ago a website called whale-alert.io where one of the data's i can get is transactions of large amount of BTC to an exchange.
here is the question, Lets say i get a message that there is a transaction of 100BTC to the exchange i'm currently using. I can assume that it can affect the trade in some way , can look for changes in this amount of BTC in the order book but is this info can tell me somehow if the intention of the whale is to pull up or down the market ? How reliable this type of data can be ? Same scenario can be of leaving the exchange..
Sometimes it's a fake signal. the whales know that they are being followed and they will follow a plan that people don't think of. Let's go back to the past, when the price of bitcoin was at $ 10k4, 300 million USDT was printed. After that many people thought that bitcoin would continue to grow, but things went against it. they print USDT to prepare to buy BTC cheaply. Meanwhile, the margin traders were liquidated over $ 1 billion on the Bitmex exchange. so trading on signals at Whale - alert is not appropriate and has a lot of risks.
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I doubt it's accuracy actually. But if ever some whales pulled out some huge amount of bitcoin in a particular exchange, there will be a great impact in the crypto market. Either will go down or will pull the trigger and go up. On the other hand, it is not that good to rely on such whale alert websites. There are other tools you may have to rely on aside from that.
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~snip~
They are coders and programmers to set certain parameters to alert about certain amount of BTC so most likely its true. Its actually helpful on delieneating the possible movement or the dumps or pumps that could happened but not entirely right Ive noticed the movement but I do hope they also include most major exchanges and not only famous one so we can see a much bigger holdings of whales moving funds either its BTC, usdt or any other top altcoins. So there is nothing we can do except prepare for anything that can happen in the market. If the price is dump so hard, that will be the best chance for us to buy more bitcoin because the price got a discount price. But we don't know what will happen with the market, and all we can see now is the price is still on the red candle, so perhaps, the next hours, we will see the same situations as now. I prefer to watch the market now since the market is moving not too aggressive so I think there will be something happening at the end of this weekend. Hopefully, the price will not go down below than $9k.
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