Do online gamblers think about their privacy and anonymity?

[Yogee]

If there is another group of bitcoin users who value their privacy, I was thinking it has to be the online gamblers. If you love gambling and you want to remain anonymous, online casinos that supports Bitcoin has to be the perfect platform. This is just a guess of mine and I don't know if it's 100% true. The same with crypto exchanges, there might also users who doesn't mind submitting personal information to bypass deposit and withdrawal restrictions.

I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?

If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered

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- https://stake.com/
- https://nitrogensports.eu/
- https://www.onehash.com/
- https://games.bitcoin.com/home
- https://www.betcoin.ag/
- https://satoshidice.com/
- https://bitvest.io/

- https://bitcasino.io
- https://www.mbitcasino.com/
- https://crypto.games/
- https://fortunejack.com/

From the comments:
- https://primedice.com
- https://sportsbet.io
- https://rocket.run
- https://blackjack.fun
- https://www.bitsler.com/
- https://bustadice.com/
- https://bustabit.com/
- https://bitdice.me/
- https://cyberdice.net/
- https://www.cloudbet.com/en/
- https://fairlay.com/
- https://www.playbetr.com/
- https://windice.io/
- https://777coin.com/

I was planning to make a comprehensive list but I am aware there are more Bitcoin online casinos not in here. Please add more if I missed your favorite anonymous online gambling platform. I will try to improve the list if there are platforms that are like exchanges who do not require KYC if they withdraw or deposit a certain amount of Bitcoin.

Additional Note:
Please read the Terms and Conditions of each bitcoin online gambling websites before using them. Most of them, including the platforms listed above, would allow you to create an anonymous account then let you deposit, play and withdraw but there's a clause somewhere in their TOCs that they can require you to pass verification at anytime they deem necessary. Examples are posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250143.msg54489271#msg54489271


Links for reference:
- https://btcplaymania.com/anonymous-bitcoin-casinos
- https://casino.guru/top-online-casinos/anonymous-casinos

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[akhjob]

I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?

Ofcourse, privacy is one of the main reason to use Bitcoin for online gambling. Moreover, gambling in some countries is yet to be legalised so there might be a problem when you access a fiat based online casino regarding deposits and withdrawals.

Please add more if I missed your favorite anonymous online gambling platform

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primedice.com
sportsbet.io

[cabalism13]

   
Do online gamblers think about their privacy and anonymity?

most of them yes, though there are still quite a number who don't care.
Besides, when winning a jackpot will surely give you a hassle especially if some people started to question you and your money (that goes for gamblers who doesn't care about their privacy)
AFAIK

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rocket.run
blackjack.fun

[DarkDays]

If you look at the terms and conditions of most gambling sites (even crypto ones), you will find that almost all will have a clause that allows them to request identity verification from any user.

Normally they will only do this under very particular circumstances though, e.g. if they're suspected of money laundering or manipulating the system.

Obviously requesting KYC from a user is extremely bad PR, so you can understand why these platforms would be hesitant to do it.

That said, there are some benefits to the practice, and most casinos will likely implement some relaxed KYC procedures eventually due to increasing pressure from the financial authorities.

[Timelord2067]

There are always clues to a person's identity: IP address, email / phone verification even the type of browser and mobile phone device being used (VPN's aside).  While the block-chain itself holds a record of each and every movement of funds across the network, the Lightning Network offers a degree of privacy as transactions are purportedly encrypted and are daisy-chained between two neighbouring nodes, not the entire network.  Some Casinos even offer LN nodes/channels for cheaper withdrawals.

[Welsh]

Privacy is important, however its extremely difficult to retain privacy in every aspect, and in almost all instances a compromise has to be made. I definitely am not a fan of rigorous KYC procedures which are generally not needed in most cases, but I'd actually prefer to be using a licensed gambling site, with KYC in place (as that's usually a requirement for licensed gambling sites) because of the guarantees that are usually put in place, and having someone accountable if anything were to go wrong.

Obviously requesting KYC from a user is extremely bad PR, so you can understand why these platforms would be hesitant to do it.

I'd disagree. Those that are not requesting KYC are sometimes breaking the law, and therefore are not licensed to be operating unless they operate in a country which does not require licensing. Even then though, the majority of countries which don't require licensing can't provide a service to countries which require a gambling site to be licensed.

Having said that, most countries are operating in these countries that don't require licensing. However, the point is KYC doesn't always mean its bad. There's perfectly legitimate reasons why KYC is needed. Although, I do disagree how in depth some KYC is, but in some countries like the UK its absolutely necessary to be able to run any legitimate gambling business.

Returning to the original point; I don't think its a bad PR move to request KYC, and license your gambling business. I actually, would prefer myself to be using a licensed gambling business because they at least have to abide by rules of the gambling commission, and sometimes have to guarantee certain if something goes wrong. Unlicensed sites have no guarantees, and can just shut up without having anyone accountable.

[rhomelmabini]

I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?

I do but as Welsh pointed out there's no harm if you are requested for a KYC unless you are dealing with a not reputed or unlicensed gambling sites, that totally harm your privacy if they gone out of thin air and there's a data leak happen or identity selling somewhere on the darknet.

I'd still prefer sites that doesn't request a KYC, just always being careful not to stack huge amount of balances over them.

[Wexnident]

I'd rather have KYC in terms of online gambling tbh. Not that I don't mind it or anything, but those sites with KYC can prove to sometimes actually be just a simple scam. It hurts not only my funds but also the time I've spent playing there and hence, I'd rather stick to one with KYC. Ofc, as long as the KYC procedures don't go overboard a certain line, I'm fine with it. Besides, I'm pretty sure casinos ask for KYC procedures just to pretty much ask for the age of the recipient so that they can assure that those playing in their site is of legal age.

most of them yes, though there are still quite a number who don't care.
Besides, when winning a jackpot will surely give you a hassle especially if some people started to question you and your money (that goes for gamblers who doesn't care about their privacy)

Just say gambling though. I don't honestly see any hassle with that, and if they look bad at you, so be it. I doubt you need to keep up pretense against someone who judges you just because you gamble. It's like judging people you see outside just because they wear tattoos, smoke, and the like.

[smyslov]

Majority of gambling sites are anonymous and they will only ask for KYC for verification, that is one of the advantages of playing online your information is confidential but if a gambler is going to play with huge amount he should make sure play with online gambling site that has a good reputation.

[Darker45]

I think most crypto casinos and betting sites do not require KYC. It would be ironic or even like a suicide for them to offer crypto gambling and require KYC. However, just like some exchanges which provide a certain withdrawal and deposit limit to account owners with no KYC, crypto casinos and betting sites may occasionally require account owners to provide certain personal information. This is normally done on grounds that suspicious activities are going on with your account or a certain violation of the site's ToS is observed.

[serjent05]

As much as possible I always wanted to be anonymous especially when playing in an online casino.  So, I prefer to play in an online casino where KYC is not an issue.  I often avoided the casino that requires identity verification and plays within the limit where a Casino won't ask for KYC since some Casino asks for identity verification if we happen to win a very huge amount of money.

[ralle14]

I always avoid online casinos with KYC but I don't mind playing on those listed sites that could potentially require KYC since I rarely win more than BTC0.1 from my small deposits. I like what Welsh mentioned about KYC in general and the same thing can be said with exchanges since you've mentioned it. I think it just depends on the certain guidelines you have before handing out your personal information.

More bitcoin gambling sites that could be included in the list

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https://www.bitsler.com/
https://bustadice.com/
https://bustabit.com/
https://bitdice.me/
https://cyberdice.net/
https://www.cloudbet.com/en/
https://fairlay.com/
https://www.playbetr.com/
https://windice.io/

[onrise]

Majorly people would like to stay anonymous and would not like to give their KYC details for various reasons they have it. It may differ from person to person and major reason is that they do not know how the KYC details could be misused by the sites if provided to them.

[noormcs5]

Majority of gambling sites are anonymous and they will only ask for KYC for verification, that is one of the advantages of playing online your information is confidential but if a gambler is going to play with huge amount he should make sure play with online gambling site that has a good reputation.

I play online gambling because i do not want to disclose my identity. Even if i perform the KYC, my freinds and family won't know that i am playing gambling online. This is totally different from gambling in physical casino where your friends can see you that you were the one who was gambling.

[Jawhead999]

I mostly play online gambling with no or less KYC, because I'm aware of my privation especially for new or unknown online casinos. But for popular, trusted, and good reputation online casinos, I'm fine if I should submit my personal information. I'm just don't want my identity got misusing from them. I think majority of gamblers are not want to submitting their KYC to online casino.

[ryzaadit]

And all of the services.

Will be asking you a KYC went your money or winning a big amount on their platform. Went you meet this situation they will ask you to do a KYC for a reason "Identity Confirmation" with a few reasons even the Casino offering an Anynoumous service. Care or not went you have a lot of money on the casino and need to past KYC before you can withdrawal the money. You will be still doing a KYC on the casino, why not everyone does not meet this problem cause they gamble with a small fund more proof you can find it on the "Scam Assumption".

[akram143]

Online gambling sites are evolved just because people who don't want to expose their personal information to public places while enjoying their bets, because gambling is considered as a sin in some religions.So yes people loves to play anonymously and most of the gambling sites operating with cryptos are KYC less.

[TimeTeller]

And all of the services.

Will be asking you a KYC went your money or winning a big amount on their platform. Went you meet this situation they will ask you to do a KYC for a reason "Identity Confirmation" with a few reasons even the Casino offering an Anynoumous service. Care or not went you have a lot of money on the casino and need to past KYC before you can withdrawal the money. You will be still doing a KYC on the casino, why not everyone does not meet this problem cause they gamble with a small fund more proof you can find it on the "Scam Assumption".

Maybe you are referring to Scam Accusations board not Scam Assumption.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Legit online casinos will not require KYC even if the player wins big time.

@OP, if you can update also your list as suggested by other members here- akhjob, cabalism13, ralle14

I prefer also to play in online casinos that don't require KYC and you will find a lot of them in this forum alone.

[sportbettor]

I was planning to make a comprehensive list but I am aware there are more Bitcoin online casinos not in here. Please add more if I missed your favorite anonymous online gambling platform. I will try to improve the list if there are platforms that are like exchanges who do not require KYC if they withdraw or deposit a certain amount of Bitcoin.

Here you can find the List of 20 Bitcoin Gambling Sites (http://100bookies.com/gambling-sites-that-accept-bitcoin-eng/), which allow anonymous registration.

[maydna]

I prefer to play gambling on the website, which doesn't have KYC like other members. I don't want to send the document because I am playing gambling, and that is why I choose to play online gambling. I cannot find a physical casino in here, or I don't know how to find that place, and I know online gambling, so I prefer to play online gambling.

Once people have found what the online gambling site they search, they will not move to another website because they will feel comfortable with what they choose. If they try another gambling website, I think they want to check what is the other gambling site provide which is not available on the site that they played before. I think many online gamblers will concern about their privacy and anonymity.