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May 26, 2020, 09:25:24 AM
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Another post about Craig Wright? What is the point people?

The main point here is not Faketoshi or his fellows, but someone who owns addresses claimed to be owned by Faketoshi.
We all know he is NOT Satoshi, but we do like to enjoy and have some fun from time to time.   Grin

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May 26, 2020, 10:17:58 AM
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I suppose that all of this debacle might at least go someway to helping folks to better understand how identity works in Bitcoin ...

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May 26, 2020, 11:50:43 AM
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And to top it off, there's this little gem, too:

Similarly, Wright also claimed that almost all communications between him and David
Kleiman were, conveniently, through mediums that did not preserve a record. Ex. 11, at 55:7-
56:11
.  At the same time, Wright has turned over numerous self-serving records of
communications between himself and David Kleiman that are provable forgeries.

For example, Wright has turned over messages from an application called “Bitmessage”
that purport to be exchanges between him and David Kleiman. Nonetheless, the creator of
Bitmessage testified that some of these messages are dated from before he even released the
application and that he is “as certain as you could possibly be that they are forgeries.” Ex. 12, at
23:8-24:2, 28:9-37:3, 146:6-17
. Wright also produced (perhaps unintentionally), a “keys.dat” file
containing the private key that was necessary to send the messages from the bitmessage account
he claims was associated with David Kleiman. In other words, Wright undeniably had the ability
to send these messages. ECF No. [500-2], at 31-32. Dr. Edman’s report is chock full of additional
forensic evidence demonstrating that other email communications Wright produced as from Dave
Kleiman are manipulated forgeries.

So faketoshi created a bitmessage account under Kleiman's name and proceeded to have a conversation with himself.  Then dated the conversation to a time before Bitmessage was available for anyone to use.  Then gave the court the key as evidence to prove that he did those things.

What an absolute cretin.   Cheesy

 

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May 26, 2020, 12:04:29 PM
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And to top it off, there's this little gem, too:

Similarly, Wright also claimed that almost all communications between him and David
Kleiman were, conveniently, through mediums that did not preserve a record. Ex. 11, at 55:7-
56:11
.  At the same time, Wright has turned over numerous self-serving records of
communications between himself and David Kleiman that are provable forgeries.

For example, Wright has turned over messages from an application called “Bitmessage”
that purport to be exchanges between him and David Kleiman. Nonetheless, the creator of
Bitmessage testified that some of these messages are dated from before he even released the
application and that he is “as certain as you could possibly be that they are forgeries.” Ex. 12, at
23:8-24:2, 28:9-37:3, 146:6-17
. Wright also produced (perhaps unintentionally), a “keys.dat” file
containing the private key that was necessary to send the messages from the bitmessage account
he claims was associated with David Kleiman. In other words, Wright undeniably had the ability
to send these messages. ECF No. [500-2], at 31-32. Dr. Edman’s report is chock full of additional
forensic evidence demonstrating that other email communications Wright produced as from Dave
Kleiman are manipulated forgeries.

So faketoshi created a bitmessage account under Kleiman's name and proceeded to have a conversation with himself.  Then dated the conversation to a time before Bitmessage was available for anyone to use.  Then gave the court the key as evidence to prove that he did those things.

What an absolute cretin.   Cheesy

 


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May 26, 2020, 12:24:27 PM
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May 26, 2020, 12:51:04 PM
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Ye, Craig ain’t smart.  Like you tools.  Haha

I get that you're mostly only capable of making posts that effectively boil down to "My belief is that BTC is going to die soon and all the BTC supporters are going to be sorry.  Then maybe people will pay attention to my wonderful altcoin which has a daily volume that's seemingly too small for anyone to bother tracking", but could you at least try to add something coherent to the discussion?  Your inane babbling doesn't appear to serve a purpose here.

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May 26, 2020, 01:26:00 PM
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There's something truly poetic about CSW getting rekt by the very technology he was trying to undermine. The fact that the original address owner(s) were able to do disprove his claims beyond any doubts, while staying completely anonymous, is the icing on the cake. Beautiful.

I wouldn't put it past him to try and weasel out of this in court. For example attempt to get the anonymous signer to testify (which they most likely wouldn't do) and/or try to dismiss the cryptographic evidence as a hack.
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There's something truly poetic about CSW getting rekt by the very technology he was trying to undermine. The fact that the original address owner(s) were able to do disprove his claims beyond any doubts, while staying completely anonymous, is the icing on the cake. Beautiful.

He was getting rekt right from the start when he copypasted Satoshi's transaction signature and every person with the slightest understanding of cryptography understood that it was a really pathetic hoax, and yet somehow there came people who really believed him. It's just like flat-earthers of antivaxxers - some people are balls deep in their own biases so they can't acknowledge reality even when it smacks them in the face. No amount of proof will help here, if Satoshi appeared tomorrow, with signatures and stuff, and said he's not CWS, the CWS cultist would say that it means nothing, that Blockstream invented quantum computer and hacked Satoshi's coins.

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There's something truly poetic about CSW getting rekt by the very technology he was trying to undermine. The fact that the original address owner(s) were able to do disprove his claims beyond any doubts, while staying completely anonymous, is the icing on the cake. Beautiful.

He was getting rekt right from the start when he copypasted Satoshi's transaction signature and every person with the slightest understanding of cryptography understood that it was a really pathetic hoax, and yet somehow there came people who really believed him. It's just like flat-earthers of antivaxxers - some people are balls deep in their own biases so they can't acknowledge reality even when it smacks them in the face. No amount of proof will help here, if Satoshi appeared tomorrow, with signatures and stuff, and said he's not CWS, the CWS cultist would say that it means nothing, that Blockstream invented quantum computer and hacked Satoshi's coins.

Eh, cultists gonna cult. There's nothing you can do about it.

The important part is that this exposes his lies in a way that hopefully has him thrown out of court for good.

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Ye, Craig ain’t smart.  Like you tools.  Haha


The cracks are starting to appear ...  Cheesy

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"Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't have the keys used to sign this message.

The Lightning Network is a significant achievement. However, we need to continue work on improving on-chain capacity.

Unfortunately, the solution is not to just change a constant in the code or to allow powerful participants to force out others.

We are all Satoshi"



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This is awesome news! I've sent it to my friend who against all odds keeps seriously thinking that Craig Wright is Satoshi. I was hoping that if the Craig thing goes too far, someone who truly has access to 2009 addresses would step in just to prove him wrong. What I'm wondering now is can we say that whoever signed the message is Satoshi? Or are we once again talking about someone close and definitely an early adopter, but not actually Satoshi?
Another post about Craig Wright? What is the point people? The entire crypto community knows how shady he truly is along with McAfee who is another top fraudster. These guys are hungry for attention wherever possible and we are handing it to them pointlessly.

His recent PhD plagiarized scandal and this signed message scandal are just drops among the ocean of scams that this guy has pulled off over the years. Ignoring such fools is the best way forward.
It's not a typical Craig-related thread, it's truly a progress in destroying his reputation as Satoshi Nakamoto. Academic integrity is one thing, claiming the addresses are yours and then getting debunked like this is IMO much stronger. Although while writing this post I've already received a response from a friend who thinks Craig is Satoshi, and this evidence did not change his mind, so perhaps you are right...

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May 26, 2020, 08:57:59 PM
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I suppose that all of this debacle might at least go someway to helping folks to better understand how identity works in Bitcoin ...

Not your keys, not your coins!

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I suppose that all of this debacle might at least go someway to helping folks to better understand how identity works in Bitcoin ...

Not your keys, not your coins!

Don't trust, Verify!


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"... and then they woke up and discovered it was all just a dream ..." - SWIM

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Right on-point ~bfX~

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May 26, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
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We have been saying this for how long? Lol I only verified like 4 of the addresses. The earliest one I found was May 19th 2009!  If that was not Satoshi that signed those messaeges he is pretty damn close!!!! I trust a signed message from 100 different address that comes from 2009!!!! Whoever it was has not TOUCHED those coins!!!!!

I have a great feeling about whoever signed those messages!!!!

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May 27, 2020, 04:06:30 AM
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Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.

He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

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This is not just your common Fraketoshi news, this is probably the biggest news out there. I mean, if someone really has the key and it was signed that craig is a liar, then how can craig, aka faketoshi, prove that he really owns it? Didn't he says he is waiting for a supposed "courier" to give him the keys to those wallets? I wonder what his defense going to be since that courier really didn't come. Is he going to lie that his "courier" scammed him his key? because since he trusted that courier, he knows who he is but as we can see, it's not the case there. This is probably biggest news yet that could throw faketoshi to prison for good.
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Good effort. I also checked one bitcoin address, message, and Signature given in OP and that's valid .

We all know from the day very beginning that he is faketoshi but this is now a confirmation that he is really a faketoshi.

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May 27, 2020, 07:37:34 AM
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This guy really messed himself up, and I am not going to pity him because he is getting what he deserves since he decided to be a thief and a liar. You don't just come out from nowhere and claim to be who you're not as an attempt to steal what belongs to another person. This year has been really bad for him; it was uncovered that his doctorate was plagiarized from one ‘Farting Unicorn’ or so… and now here's another news that is even more worse than the one that was first revealed.

This is starting to get more funny and I can't really wait to see what's going to happen after all this drama that has been on for years now. One thing for sure is that he's going to regret ever doing this.

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May 27, 2020, 07:56:47 AM
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Hopefully, this signed message and the evidence that CSW is not the owner can be used against him to the court of law.
My question now is who is this guy that signed this message?
Should we assume that it is the real Satoshi - as recently 40 BTC that were mined in 2009 also occurred? Can we connect those two facts and conclude that Satoshi is back?
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