[Flag] Bruno AKA Phinnaeus Gage, Gleb Gamow, YuTü.Co.in, Bitcoin 100 & ???

[hilariousetc]

What's funny is I explicitly told you that sending your Known Alts donations funds was NOT a good idea, but you did it anyway. Now you opened a bullshit flag over it. You have an astounding ability to overlook reason and common sense to make the most unreasonable of connections.

I was guided by the voters who overwhelmingly voted to use the funds in that way.

If people voted overwhelmingly for you to jump off a cliff would you do it?

 

Not even @marlboroza objected. (or @hilariousetc for that matter)  

Wut? Not objected to what? I voted absolutely not and told you several times why it was a stupid idea.

I support the flag for the @Bruno account...!

How could this happen to the @Bruno account, after @theymos changed @Bruno to VIP status, this really can't be trusted.
And what about the donations that have been made by the bitcointalk community to @Bruno a few days ago, what is on target or vice versa.

I started to not believe anymore if someone died here and cried asking for donations. Lol

You should be cautious or weary of these sorts of things, especially without any sort of verifiable proof. As I said before, being ill or dying are effective as scams because they prey on peoples emotions and people generally want to do a good thing.

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[suchmoon]

Not if only one of the accounts have been hacked, and not the others. There is no evidence that Gleb Gamow or YuTü.Co.in are compromised.

Gleb Gamow account has not been compromised. Whether it's a hacker or Bruno himself rising from the dead - they won't have access to that account.

[Timelord2067]

Not if only one of the accounts have been hacked, and not the others. There is no evidence that Gleb Gamow or YuTü.Co.in are compromised.

Gleb Gamow account has not been compromised. Whether it's a hacker or Bruno himself rising from the dead - they won't have access to that account.

What would you do if someone came on and said they were Bruno, could prove word-for-word every conversation / provide every BTC TX signed messages from every BTC wallet address you could think of etc etc etc and asked you to hand back ownership of the Gleb Gamow account?

[alani123]

Not if only one of the accounts have been hacked, and not the others. There is no evidence that Gleb Gamow or YuTü.Co.in are compromised.

Gleb Gamow account has not been compromised. Whether it's a hacker or Bruno himself rising from the dead - they won't have access to that account.

How can we be sure about that? Coins were moved out of Bruno's addresses after his mortuary was posted and not long after that someone posts from his main account.
If another person that compromised the accounts has access to so much, then it's likely a full compromise and other accounts aren't to be trusted also.

[Timelord2067]

How can we be sure about that? Coins were moved out of Bruno's addresses after his mortuary was posted and not long after that someone posts from his main account.
If another person that compromised the accounts has access to so much, then it's likely a full compromise and other accounts aren't to be trusted also.

Thanks for your support alani123, my other flags can be found here.  I just read in the other thread a suggestion Bruno's mobile phone may have been on-sold and someone is Pawning the Forum.

As far as conspiracies go it's a pretty good theory.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Even if it was Bruno that posted that address you didn't know whether anyone had access to it so it was stupid to do so.

Personally I wouldn't be too hard on Timelord2067, as he was trying to do a good thing for someone and he didn't get scammed because he got greedy (which is how a lot of people get scammed).  On the other hand, I never would have donated bitcoin to a dying person for burial costs, as that's something I think is a scam in itself.  What becomes of someone's mortal remains is a trivial matter to me, and science can have my body when I'm done with it for all I care.

But what a nuckin' frightmare this is turning out to be in any case.

You should be cautious or weary of these sorts of things, especially without any sort of verifiable proof. As I said before, being ill or dying are effective as scams because they prey on peoples emotions and people generally want to do a good thing.

Absolutely agree with this sentiment.  Even given how popular Bruno was, the donation idea was not a good one.

[suchmoon]

Not if only one of the accounts have been hacked, and not the others. There is no evidence that Gleb Gamow or YuTü.Co.in are compromised.

Gleb Gamow account has not been compromised. Whether it's a hacker or Bruno himself rising from the dead - they won't have access to that account.

How can we be sure about that? Coins were moved out of Bruno's addresses after his mortuary was posted and not long after that someone posts from his main account.
If another person that compromised the accounts has access to so much, then it's likely a full compromise and other accounts aren't to be trusted also.

I personally secured that account with a strong password so I'm very sure.

What would you do if someone came on and said they were Bruno, could prove word-for-word every conversation / provide every BTC TX signed messages from every BTC wallet address you could think of etc etc etc and asked you to hand back ownership of the Gleb Gamow account?

All you need to know is that the account hasn't been handed over to anybody so remove the frivolous flag and stop making shit up.

[Harlot]

I myself is leaning more towards that his account is also sold rather him being alive and kicking. The selfie he sent as a proof of life barely looks like him and his reasoning about the money donated for him for his medication is really out of his main goal which was covering all the funeral expense he is asking for donations in the first place, he didn't talk about any him fighting his sickness so I really wonder who is using all of his account. Probably a close relative have managed to know all of his passwords after he passed away?

[marlboroza]

Probably a close relative have managed to know all of his passwords after he passed away?

Probably a close relative would have come here to say "Thank you all for donations", you know...

[alani123]

Not if only one of the accounts have been hacked, and not the others. There is no evidence that Gleb Gamow or YuTü.Co.in are compromised.

Gleb Gamow account has not been compromised. Whether it's a hacker or Bruno himself rising from the dead - they won't have access to that account.

How can we be sure about that? Coins were moved out of Bruno's addresses after his mortuary was posted and not long after that someone posts from his main account.
If another person that compromised the accounts has access to so much, then it's likely a full compromise and other accounts aren't to be trusted also.

I personally secured that account with a strong password so I'm very sure.

Oh, I must've missed that. I'd personally trust your word for it.
And I assume you're implying here that Gleb wasn't given access to the password?

[suchmoon]

Oh, I must've missed that. I'd personally trust your word for it.
And I assume you're implying here that Gleb wasn't given access to the password?

No, and you can see that the account hasn't been touched in two years. I any of that changes I will make sure to announce it publicly as the whole point of me holding the account was to make sure it's not misused (it was in DT2 at the time). But I kinda doubt that Bruno - awesome as he was - will be able to pull a Jesus here and come back from the dead.

The OP knows the situation with Gleb Gamow (see his feedback ratings on the account) so there was no reason whatsoever for that flag.

[YOSHIE]

Probably a close relative have managed to know all of his passwords after he passed away?

at a glance seen from: ( Phinnaeus Gage[Bpip] ), Since @Bruno was declared dead, no changes have occurred with the @Phinnaeus Gage account, except in 2018, changing passwords and e-mails, currently there has been no change.

If @Bruno really died and the account is managed by his family, it is very clear that his relatives and family want to try their luck (donations) twice, it is a big mistake if done by family and relatives, want to cheat, want the help of Bitcoin donated by others, without difficulty working, only capital post covid-19 donations in the forum get money, great, why not everyone in this forum just ask for donations, because people in this forum are very generous, Can not see other people suffering and distress. very funny.

You should be cautious or weary of these sorts of things,

Yes, you are telling the truth, everyone including me personally, must be very careful and if someone who is sick, dies coming to the forum requires donations, which leads to fraud.

[bonesjonesreturns]

Change the OP to reflect what you can corroborate with strong evidence or conclusive proof.
There is absolutely no way Bruno would be a scammer.
If the account was/is under the control of someone else that if fine flag it until we get it sorted.

There is no evidence to say Bruno himself scammed you. Best not to claim that or even imply it.

Flagging the account is fine. Better to wait for some more investigative work before bruno is a scammer.

How hard can it be to confirm someone died?

Bruno would have found out and posted conclusive proof by now.

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[ene1980]

No, and you can see that the account hasn't been touched in two years. I any of that changes I will make sure to announce it publicly as the whole point of me holding the account was to make sure it's not misused (it was in DT2 at the time). But I kinda doubt that Bruno - awesome as he was - will be able to pull a Jesus here and come back from the dead.

The OP knows the situation with Gleb Gamow (see his feedback ratings on the account) so there was no reason whatsoever for that flag.

If Gleb Gamow account was held by you why there was a thread about both his accounts having a VIP tag as the real user was not even holding the Gleb Gamow account. I have seen you confirming that you are holding the account for a long time but why the VIP tag when the real owner was not holding the account.

Bruno might not have pulled the Jesus stunt but just like you have possession of Gleb Gamow account what is the certainty that Bruno did held the Phinnaeus Gage account .

Probably a close relative have managed to know all of his passwords after he passed away?

at a glance seen from: ( Phinnaeus Gage[Bpip] ), Since @Bruno was declared dead, no changes have occurred with the @Phinnaeus Gage account, except in 2018, changing passwords and e-mails, currently there has been no change.

If a close relative knew his account details there is nothing wrong in explaining that but that is not what happened. As you said there is no certainty that Bruno held Phinnaeus Gage account while his known alt was held by Suchmoon and who knows who was holding Gage account.

[TECSHARE]

I called the Boersma Funeral Home, and the person who answered confirmed that he knew Bruno, and he had passed. I just thought people would like to know so we can end the speculation about Bruno himself.

[Harlot]

Probably a close relative have managed to know all of his passwords after he passed away?

Probably a close relative would have come here to say "Thank you all for donations", you know...

Probably a close relative have managed to know all of his passwords after he passed away?

at a glance seen from: ( Phinnaeus Gage[Bpip] ), Since @Bruno was declared dead, no changes have occurred with the @Phinnaeus Gage account, except in 2018, changing passwords and e-mails, currently there has been no change.

If a close relative knew his account details there is nothing wrong in explaining that but that is not what happened. As you said there is no certainty that Bruno held Phinnaeus Gage account while his known alt was held by Suchmoon and who knows who was holding Gage account.

I'm just opening up in several possibilities here, it might not be a close relative but someone who is close with Bruno so close that he/she is trying to impersonate him and trying to make him look alive. As we can all see his passworld and email remain unchanged so really Bruno might just have gave his account and email to someone close to him. But my point really is this guy using Bruno's account is an impersonator and is trying to scam people thinking that he is alive and well.

[Timelord2067]

I will respond to everyone's comments later today - I've got other IRL stuff that needs doing first.

If anyone does have the ear of @theymos, perhaps you can whisper in their ear that I have a thread here: [BitCoinTalk][COVID-19] Grim Reality warning of accounts being hijacked after a person has died.  If theymos is reading this, can I suggest that any account that's confirmed, or at least suspected of having died have their password changed with a 20+ random string of characters and their email details removed (but recorded for confirmation) so that anyone who tries to hack in is unable to do so.

Thanks.

[Hueristic]

Wait, these accounts are not locked down when made "in memoriam"?

Well that seems like a pretty amateur oversight.

[alani123]

Wait, these accounts are not locked down when made "in memoriam"?

Well that seems like a pretty amateur oversight.

The special title and VIP status were given to Bruno's accounts as a one off. It's not part of a bitcointalk policy AFAIK.
Most websites don't have a plan set in stone for when a person behind an account dies. Let alone bitcointalk, where most users are pseudonymous and don't connect their IRL self with their forum handle.
But my view is that it makes more sense to leave the account untouched after the person's death other than lock it. The deceased might have had plans for the account that were not announced to the admins anyway so why hinder that possibility. 

[Hueristic]

Wait, these accounts are not locked down when made "in memoriam"?

Well that seems like a pretty amateur oversight.

The special title and VIP status were given to Bruno's accounts as a one off. It's not part of a bitcointalk policy AFAIK.
Most websites don't have a plan set in stone for when a person behind an account dies. Let alone bitcointalk, where most users are pseudonymous and don't connect their IRL self with their forum handle.
But my view is that it makes more sense to leave the account untouched after the person's death other than lock it. The deceased might have had plans for the account that were not announced to the admins anyway so why hinder that possibility.  

I seem to remember a post now that if the account started posting it would be stripped of the VIP or some such thing, It just seems to make sense to lock a account that has been memorialized. Someone could hack it and then go and edit all the posts otherwise. I'm pretty sure Satochi's account is locked so it is an option.

I think we are being punked.