PAGCOR waiting for the approval to reopen land-based casinos.

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Gamblers Drive Hours and Wait in Lines, as Casinos Reopen Amid Coronavirus

^ That could potentially happen in the Philippines also once land-based casinos are allowed to open. Just like how drunkards were so excited to quench their thirst with alcohol when the liquor ban was lifted, some gamblers might be itching to touch the tables and machines in the casinos

Disclaimer: I didn't read the full article because WSJ won't allow me unless I subscribe.

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I don't think it will be possible to re open this month ,because this is just a luxury and not a main needs of the people,the government is controlling the socializing and with this?there will be a bridge to risk the pandemic again.

You are missing the point. It's not how people view casinos but it's how these land-based casinos help generate funds for the economy. In the eyes of the Government, that is essential.

Maybe read what @chaser15 said in the previous comments about implementations of safety measure in casinos [1 2] .


@FlightyPouch, I wanted to reply to your comments but that would derail this thread. If you got other problems concerning the pandemic and local issues, try to post that in our local board or in Politics & Society.

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[FlightyPouch]

I'm glad that they did this, Philippine gambling casinos have so many workers and industries that depends on their gaming and these people are starving, other companies and industry are slowly opening up, if the guidelines they've submitted are approved then workers will not have to rely on the government for dole out and support.

I agree that these people should be really in their jobs right now for them to support their family. The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things. The bills they just passed, another bill being talked about, how about the people still being affected by the pandemic? Those hundred thousands patients that tested positive with the virus? The mass testing? where is it now? They are more focussed on this "balangay" as a national shit right now that they focus more on rather than the real problem that the country is facing. I think I am a terrorist right now.

What they can do? They have already done anything and they are going out of budget thats why they do let out people to be on work. Its just really too selfish to conclude that government isnt really doing their job or
do say that they arent concern into its citizens safety but what you can do? As long the vaccine isnt available yet then theres no way on stopping for this virus to spread.We are embracing the new normal now and people
wont really have any options left and as said earlier by other members that we dont have any choice but to deal with it and since the government cant able to handle out in terms of financial support then
they would really come up into this option.

No. I am not saying that they did not do anything, I am saying that they are not focussing on the matter at hand. The senate are tackling "balangay" as a boat right now which I don't think a good timing to this time. People still need help, People are still dying from the virus.

They are more focussed on this "balangay" as a national shit right now that they focus more on rather than the real problem that the country is facing. I think I am a terrorist right now.

Just curious, are you are Filipino? It seems that the news is scattered in every social media platform. The masses are making a move in signing a petition to the "Anti-Terrorism" bill. I wonder if its just a move to contain people.

Yes, I am.

https://mobile.twitter.com/cnnphilippines/status/1268134175128686592

I've seen this Twitter Post so it kinds of annoy me since new hundreds of cases are still happening and deaths are still going. And yeah, thanks for that, that give me some thought of some guy spreading this for controlling the people.

[verita1]

I agree, the number of new daily infections is what inspires insecurity for the population. Only essential activity businesses should continue to operate until these infection rates drop.
Sadly, Casinos are the most affected in this pandemic due to the fact that they have to carry out their operations in contact with people.

[Kemarit]

I'm pretty sure that you are aware that I do love to play in land base casino, My urge to go to land base casino in this lock down and how I fight it. And my favorite place to play is Resorts World and City of Dreams. So I'm really excited if Pagcor will allow those two big casino's to open up in this new norm.

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

[NavI_027]

Within two days, the number of covid 19 cases here in the Philippines climbed by 1000 making a total of 20000+. That's absolutely disturbing because it seems that we are not flattening the curve at all. Just an update.

Despite of this, I hope IATF still give permit for land based casinos to continue their business. I know that the situation might get even worse by reopening such non essential sectors but let us put in our consideration that our nation's coffers are depleting fast. Tax revenue from such industries could help a lot. Here is an article you can read to give you estimated numbers (sorry I can't find a more updated one). As long as they will strictly comply on the safety protocols, they can eliminate the spread of the virus.

The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things.

Indeed. Actually I'm worrying a little bit with regards to protesters who conduct rallies recently promoting to junk Anti Terror Bill. Well I agree with their vision but, please for God's sake, not in the times of pandemic. I think government should postponed this bill for the meantime in order to calm those protesters and avoid mass gatherings .

[TravelMug]

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

And that is the best decision you are going to make, forget about your gambling addiction for just a second and think of the long term effect.

For sure many gamblers are going to be happy seeing their favourite casino open in other parts of the world, however, you really don't know what will happen to you. Philippines did a good job, trying to control the spread of the virus, and now that they are easing their quarantine, I do hope that the government did make the best decision for the Filipinos.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

And that is the best decision you are going to make, forget about your gambling addiction for just a second and think of the long term effect.

For sure many gamblers are going to be happy seeing their favourite casino open in other parts of the world, however, you really don't know what will happen to you. Philippines did a good job, trying to control the spread of the virus, and now that they are easing their quarantine, I do hope that the government did make the best decision for the Filipinos.

Indeed. You should step aside your gambling addiction and think about your own safety or your health because it will be the best for you and your family. We all know this community quarantine lockdown is taking too long and a lot of people are suffering because they can't do the things that they love, so they should still have patience and faith for the vaccine to come for them to the things that they love again like gambling.

[Jating]

I agree, the number of new daily infections is what inspires insecurity for the population. Only essential activity businesses should continue to operate until these infection rates drop.
Sadly, Casinos are the most affected in this pandemic due to the fact that they have to carry out their operations in contact with people.

I don't think that casino's though are the most affected by this pandemic, I would say Philippine tourism is more impacted by the pandemic. What the people behind wanted is to get everything back, meaning make money out of this situations as obviously, casino businesses are losing money here.

On the other hand, government need to generate money thru taxing those casinos mandated under PAGCOR that's why they are pushing that casinos need to re-open. So regardless, it is up to casino gamblers, if they wanted to go and take the risk of exposing themselves in the casino, although there are plans to limit the crowd.

[Russlenat]

So regardless, it is up to casino gamblers, if they wanted to go and take the risk of exposing themselves in the casino, although there are plans to limit the crowd.

Casino gamblers are risk takers, no doubt they are willing to risk themselves just to play in a casino, they have been waiting for this opportunity to go back on their normal routine, so its expected that a lot of casino goers will play once PAGCOR will start to operate. Government own this agency, they know for sure the risk, so I won't question their decision if they re-opens.

[noormcs5]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

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The simple answer to this is that it is not safe to open the land based casino even with the precautionary measures. As we can see many shops and business are being opened up even though the number of corona cases are increasing everyday. I think government should only open those business which are extremely important to meet the essential requirements of the people.

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Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

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The simple answer to this is that it is not safe to open the land based casino even with the precautionary measures. As we can see many shops and business are being opened up even though the number of corona cases are increasing everyday. I think government should only open those business which are extremely important to meet the essential requirements of the people.

Not safe due to the fact that the virus still here as well they doesn't contribute to anything so I think this plan will be cancelled again the same on what happen to POGO before, provably  leisure and entertainment industry will open up once there is a vaccine available. If they proceed this plan then might this will contribute for another wave of covid infection since for sure many foreign gamblers will came and we know how dangerous to mingle with other people especially those persons who are unidentified on where they came.

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If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Although there are health measures that could be implemented such as wearing a mask and observing physical distancing, it is still not a guarantee that if ever an infected gambler comes in, there won't be anyone who will get infected.

They better wait for the transmission to low down to the minimum before finally opening up their casinos.

[rodskee]

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Although there are health measures that could be implemented such as wearing a mask and observing physical distancing, it is still not a guarantee that if ever an infected gambler comes in, there won't be anyone who will get infected.

They better wait for the transmission to low down to the minimum before finally opening up their casinos.

Land-based casinos isn't safe yet, physical interaction will always possible and who knows if one of the people around are infected
of this virus which can easily transmitted even you are wearing mask.
best to wait and not to rush things out as numbers of infected people who are being test are increasing. Better to wait than being
sorry as this virus still spreading around.
Government should focus to other sources of funding instead of allowing this business to operates, safety of the people and also
to lessen the potentials of spreading more.

I agree, the number of new daily infections is what inspires insecurity for the population. Only essential activity businesses should continue to operate until these infection rates drop.
Sadly, Casinos are the most affected in this pandemic due to the fact that they have to carry out their operations in contact with people.

Not only drops but Ended,because even if there are only few infection still they can infect many in just in short time so basically we
cannot just rely on that but we need assurance and securities in the best Line.

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I don't think it will be possible to re open this month ,because this is just a luxury and not a main needs of the people,the government is controlling the socializing and with this?there will be a bridge to risk the pandemic again.

You are missing the point. It's not how people view casinos but it's how these land-based casinos help generate funds for the economy. In the eyes of the Government, that is essential.

Even how Helpful this is for the government still this is a Pandemic,while the government it self is pushing to tell people staying inside their houses even the lockdown or quarantine is stopped then they are allowing Gamblers just because there are safety precautions ?

Sorry mate even how hard i try to understand yet there are part that is not allowable (though we have our own opinion in this matter and i respect yours so please try to respect mine)

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Absolutely,we are still counting many infection each day though the death is subsiding yet this is far from safeties.

Although there are health measures that could be implemented such as wearing a mask and observing physical distancing, it is still not a guarantee that if ever an infected gambler comes in, there won't be anyone who will get infected.

yeah even if they Boxed each gamblers to make them safe from the Virus yet since they are in same place there are still probabilities.

They better wait for the transmission to low down to the minimum before finally opening up their casinos.

actually?they need to wait for the cure before letting this non essential activities to be allowed and that is what i believe is right if we really wanted to fight this Virus.

[Vaculin]

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Let's look at the graph, ..




As of today, Philippines has over 20,000 cases of covid-19 infection already, but I don't think stopping the economic activity would solve that spread.
The government has already lifted the lock down and we are already in GCQ, they can's stop this virus, we just need to be responsible and business will operate as usual but with the new normal.

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Even how Helpful this is for the government still this is a Pandemic,while the government it self is pushing to tell people staying inside their houses even the lockdown or quarantine is stopped then they are allowing Gamblers just because there are safety precautions ?

It's like you are living in another country. Did you not read that almost anyone is allowed to go out now that ECQ was lifted? Under GCQ, you can go out but you are still required to wear mask and practice social distancing.

You argue why they would allow gamblers just because there are safety precautions? Well, it's GCQ. Besides, other establishments are already allowed to open at a limited capacity, why not add another that's revenue generating like land-based casinos? Borrowing from @chaser15, they are most likely the best at implementing safety measures.  

In addition, the two months lockdown is to help flatten the curve and give time for the government to prepare health facilities for covid-19 patients. I think they've achieved that (especially the facilities). Sooner or later, majority of the businesses will be allowed to open and public transportation will resume because the economy needs to recover. All that while the risk of infection is still present and the vaccine not coming anytime soon. That's the reality we are in right now.
 

Sorry mate even how hard i try to understand yet there are part that is not allowable (though we have our own opinion in this matter and i respect yours so please try to respect mine)

I'm just showing you the logic or the position of the government if they approve land-based casinos to reopen at a limited capacity. One of the economic managers already mentioned before that the revenues from the gambling industry is essential. He gave that statement at the height of POGO reopening issue. I read that in a news article but can't remember which one. You are free to reject that if you want.

[Sadlife]

The government will have no choice to approve as they need income to revitalized the economy and one of the keys are Casino's that pays 20%-30% of tax.
The question is will gamblers risk their lives to play gambling games once more.

[plvbob0070]

I'm pretty sure that you are aware that I do love to play in land base casino, My urge to go to land base casino in this lock down and how I fight it. And my favorite place to play is Resorts World and City of Dreams. So I'm really excited if Pagcor will allow those two big casino's to open up in this new norm.

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

Well if the IATF allowed the reopening of land-based casinos, then it's up to the casino operators whether to open immediately or not. But of course, they also need to imply strict safety protocols to ensure that everyone in the facility is safe. I guess they will only allow casinos if they will provide information on how they will apply the protocols for the new normal. And deciding whether to gamble or not is still yours at the end of the day, just make sure you'll be extra careful because going outside is already a risk.

Within two days, the number of covid 19 cases here in the Philippines climbed by 1000 making a total of 20000+. That's absolutely disturbing because it seems that we are not flattening the curve at all. Just an update.

Despite of this, I hope IATF still give permit for land based casinos to continue their business. I know that the situation might get even worse by reopening such non essential sectors but let us put in our consideration that our nation's coffers are depleting fast. Tax revenue from such industries could help a lot. Here is an article you can read to give you estimated numbers (sorry I can't find a more updated one). As long as they will strictly comply on the safety protocols, they can eliminate the spread of the virus.

The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things.

Indeed. Actually I'm worrying a little bit with regards to protesters who conduct rallies recently promoting to junk Anti Terror Bill. Well I agree with their vision but, please for God's sake, not in the times of pandemic. I think government should postponed this bill for the meantime in order to calm those protesters and avoid mass gatherings .

There is no doubt that they will consider this proposal because we can't remove the fact that casinos also plays a big role in the economy. Not just from tax revenue, but also hundreds of employees are affected by this, so we'll just see what will they do about this.

They should really focus on the more important matter compared to this terror bill because people won't stop protesting unless they will not pass this bill. The more people protest outside, the more chances that this virus will just continue to increase, and it's threatening.

[Pamadar]

I think this is right time to Open Gambling Casinos because each country needs Income and gambling is one of the most profitable way for Governments.

I also Believe that Casino operator can manage to Make precautions for the Players inside casino.
They can Keep People safe and go home without Infection of Virus.

I missed Going to Casino and i will surely enjoy it now again.

[aioc]

I think this is right time to Open Gambling Casinos because each country needs Income and gambling is one of the most profitable way for Governments.

I also Believe that Casino operator can manage to Make precautions for the Players inside casino.
They can Keep People safe and go home without Infection of Virus.

I missed Going to Casino and i will surely enjoy it now again.

I believe that Casinos, especially in the Philippines, should operate under strict guidelines, casinos in the Philippines are a big attraction for tourist, they have loyal clients and they are going to support these casinos if they see that they are implementing protocols, the government badly need revenue so they can sustain this pandemic.