PAGCOR waiting for the approval to reopen land-based casinos.

[plvbob0070]

After 2 months of strict quarantine in the Philippines, PAGCOR (Philippines Amusement and Gaming Corporation) submitted an approval to resume land-based gaming to IATF (Inter-Agency Task Force). Last month they submitted the request including the proposed safety guidelines to follow by the operators.

Last March when the Philippines started its ECQ (Enhanced Community Quarantine) where most businesses have closed, and only essential businesses remain. While the start of June, they lifted the lockdown to GCQ (General Community Quarantine) were workers and employees can go back to work and the opening of some businesses. For the whole 2 months of ECQ, most businesses have no income, same with casinos. Until now, casinos are closed and gambling is still banned in the country to avoid crowded places.

Now, PAGCOR revealed that they submitted a request to resume the operations of land-based casinos. They included safety protocols such as;
-wearing of face masks
-strict compliance of social distancing
-limiting the capacity of not more than 50% to both table games and EGMs
-preventing standing bettors or loitering in the gaming areas.  

The possible date for re-opening is June 16 when GCQ restrictions come under further review.

Some land-based casinos have already shown their preparations for the possible reopening of casinos. Safety measures include regular disinfecting of equipment, thermal scanning, sanitation mats, and more. Big casinos are being monitored, waiting if they are planning to re-open soon.

This is good news for gamblers who badly want to gamble if they allowed the reopening of casinos. But knowing the correct situation, our country has already almost 19,000 positive cases, they might reject this request. And if ever they will reopen land-based casinos, perhaps only high-class people can gamble because lower-class gamblers don't gamble in a big casino. Personally, I don't know if they will approve this request or not because unlike the gamblers, the public will probably don't want to reopen casinos.

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

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https://pokercastasia.com/2020/06/02/pagcor-waiting-for-approval-from-iatf-for-covid19-to-resume-land-base-operations/

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[swogerino]

Even where I am everything has been opened since 1st of June but unfortunately the number of infected people has been somewhat on the rise and I think this is normal.I think it is Ok to open everything even casinos but the thing every government needs to emphasize the most now is making people aware that the virus is still around us because the people think now everything is safe since we opened everything.

[avikz]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

Firstly, I have looked into some statistics from Google.

Philippines population: 105 million approx
Covid patient found till date: 18,997 (approx 0.018% of entire population)
Death: 966 (approx 5.1% of total infected)

I don't think it makes sense to stop operating businesses at this situation. As per the number, Philippines has done great in containing the virus. So I believe the casinos and other business should be allowed to start operating again. Then I look at the Google charts of daily infection trend. See below,



This data certainly doesn't give a good picture because the number of infection is rising on daily basis in Philippines. At this time, if non-essential businesses are allowed to operate, that would cause additional risks to the public health.

My conclusion:
Even though the infection percentage is pretty low and the number of deaths are also low, looking at the current trends doesn't really give confidence for non-essential businesses to operate. I believe Philippines will have to wait for more time unless the number of infection subsides. If it's a question of government revenue, Philippines government should consider promoting online casinos as an alternative.

[Bttzed03]

~ Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

Nobody is safe but the national government needs the huge revenue that will be generated from both land-based and online casinos. The case in most countries now is to prioritize health concerns, keep businesses close and let the economy drop even more OR take the health risks, open businesses for the economy to slowly recover.

Judging by the news that the number health facilities that will handle infected patients increased in the past two months, I think the reopening will be approved. Let's just hope that the safety measures will be strictly implemented.

~ If it's a question of government revenue, Philippines government should consider promoting online casinos as an alternative.

It's about revenue. It was a controversial topic in our local media (mainstream/social) before but POGO (Philippine Offshore Gaming Operators) were allowed to reopen partially.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Even though the infection percentage is pretty low and the number of deaths are also low, looking at the current trends doesn't really give confidence for non-essential businesses to operate. I believe Philippines will have to wait for more time unless the number of infection subsides.

Agree with this. The country cant able to produce a flat line result for the infection. Allowing the operations of casino would only result to non stop new cases.

If the article is right and some land based casino are preparing then its gonna be a lot of a mess. I am sad with the fact that government lower the ECQ to GCQ allowing some of the companies and employees go to their work. Not because I dont want them to have money for a living but the sacrifices of frontliners were means nothing cause this decision will only surely increase cases definitely.

So better not to open those land based casino at all until there are some improvements seen on the results.

[Ucy]

Well, am abit careful with the words used on the post, so I wouldn't approve if the purpose of opening in a crisis time like this is to "gamble".
I don't see anything wrong with gaming though, as long as the games are safe and players bet responsibily(and not gamble). Gambling esp in crisis period doesn't sound right to me
Hope the safety measures are sufficient.

[bisdak40]

Now, PAGCOR revealed that they submitted a request to resume the operations of land-based casinos. They included safety protocols such as;
-wearing of face masks
-strict compliance of social distancing
-limiting the capacity of not more than 50% to both table games and EGMs
-preventing standing bettors or loitering in the gaming areas.  

There's a high chance that these land-based casinos will operate soon because they are one of the biggest tax contributor in the Philippines but i doubt gamblers are itching to go to the casinos as of this time because of the risk involve. Gamblers are there for leisure not essentials so i think they would stay home until there is vaccine for this COVID-19.

[Maus0728]

This data certainly doesn't give a good picture because the number of infection is rising on daily basis in Philippines. At this time, if non-essential businesses are allowed to operate, that would cause additional risks to the public health.

Here is the official website of the Department of Health in our country; this will give you an accurate statistics regarding the cases of viral outbreak.
[1] https://www.doh.gov.ph/2019-ncov/

*This is not updated*

Looking at the graph, there are still a large number of people who has not yet been tested and this implies that allowing mass gatherings will surely compromise the healthy safety of the people. In fact, we don't have any control of governments' verdict whether they allow them or not. If in turn they allow this; a strict compliance to guidelines must be enforced.

The sad thing is, there is a decrease of fun and enjoyment inside these land based casino, there is nothing we can do but to adopt "New nomal" until there is a vaccine.

[Rosilito]

Even though the infection percentage is pretty low and the number of deaths are also low, looking at the current trends doesn't really give confidence for non-essential businesses to operate. I believe Philippines will have to wait for more time unless the number of infection subsides.

Agree with this. The country cant able to produce a flat line result for the infection. Allowing the operations of casino would only result to non stop new cases.

Yeah, it will generate new more cases no matter how strict the protocols, no matter how the citizens/gamblers abide the guidelines it will only just end up to new more infections not unless the country had already done the mass testing the government promised. Those numbers and statistics isn't totally certain as there were numerous people that I'm quite sure have been carrying the virus yet been left unchecked.

If by chance mass testing have been done, and right away isolation to those people who showed a positive result, suspicious one who have been in-contact as well. And a major change occurs within those numbers, then it is somehow safe to say and/or to decide whether the operation of land-based casino should be allowed given that the number of cases the country has, is almost close to being precise.

Bottom line, allowing those casino isn't a good idea for now not unless the country isn't blind with the number of cases anymore.

[mu_enrico]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

If proper safety measures are seriously conducted, then I think it lowers the risk. However, it's not 100% safe.
Safety is not the main concern with this "new normal" stuff since people will be safest if they remain at home. But, the economy must recover so people can earn money and meet their daily needs. It's inevitable after the shutdown failed to eradicate the virus since so many workers depend on the casino/tourism to make a living.

[imstillthebest]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

If proper safety measures are seriously conducted, then I think it lowers the risk. However, it's not 100% safe.
Safety is not the main concern with this "new normal" stuff since people will be safest if they remain at home. But, the economy must recover so people can earn money and meet their daily needs. It's inevitable after the shutdown failed to eradicate the virus since so many workers depend on the casino/tourism to make a living.

yes there is based on what i read above so im with them.  other than that  , i also see a graph above that shows that ph country were now improving  in terms of recoveries from covid  . that only means that people are now learning on how to protect thier selves with strict security measures  and we can assure that they will follow simple and strict rules  that are given to them  .  gamblers wont only benefit on this opening but most of all the workers  . they can earn now .

[Janation]

This is just mad.

They know that the cases are still increasing, they implemented GCQ, a lot of testings are having a problem, they are submitting the anti-terror bill that just makes them like crybabies being scared and afraid of being told by media and social accounts. They have the nerve on focussing on this bill rather than focussing on the pandemic, and since they can't stop the increasing cases, they will just turn a blind eye to it and return to normal. And when they are asked about it, they will say that the people wanted it, so they went with it. In the end, their ego is more important than their people.

[acroman08]

I know that the government gets a lot of tax from the gambling industry but I don't think it is worth to risk the lives of the workers especially when the infection rate hasn't decreased at all and commuting from home to work is very hard and commuters will be in contact with a lot of people where proper social distancing is not being properly implemented and the possibility of getting infected by the virus is extremely high.

[Baofeng]

Actually when Duterte eases out the lockdown this June 1, the first thing I didn't it so check one of the casino's here and see if there are some updates are whether these casino's are going to open or not, fortunately, there's not as of yet.

However, being a landbase player, I wouldn't put the risk in playing even after PAGCOR will give the go signal to re-open the big 3, RW (Resorts World) , COD (City of Dreams) and Solaire Resort and Casino. Of course I missed the environment, but no thanks, will prefer to play online for now until the Covid-19 has flatten the curve in the Philippines.

[FlightyPouch]

Well, all of the places with the risk of getting the virus is under GCQ now, no need to talk about this, they would gladly say yes to this since they are wanting to take care of the economy and not their people. I agree that they should consider this greatly as there are still hundreds and hundreds of new cases adding up every day but I think it is in favor to them since there are a lot of people that agree with extrajudicial killings that is happening.

[batang_bitcoin]

The economy is affected and casinos are huge contributors in most countries that allows it. They have no choice but to submit the operations to be back again but IATF is the one to decide if they will allow it to re-operate. It isn't an essential so they might decline the request.
But, if there's already a date for the reopening then there's a possibility that this has already been guaranteed and just for the sake of reports and formality, they're telling it to the medias.

[chaser15]

I don't see why others are against this. What's the difference between opening these land-based casinos while every other establishment is now open for services? An establishment that way more lots of people such as malls, restaurants, markets, grocery, department stores, and many more.

If the concern is the affection, then why shift into GCQ? Why other businesses with more people allowed to open? Lockdown for several months should be imposed. Are people can able to handle that long? Definitely no.

Land-based casinos under PAGCOR are highly strict. People can't just go inside or for a much better term, common people aren't allowed. You need to show you are capable of playing there. Therefore, if the strict capacity limit will be imposed then the social distancing will be followed properly compare to other establishments. Their safety measure is much more strict compare to others.

Other care for gamblers but didn't concern of other people who are going every day on those large establishments that are allowed to open lol. Land-based casinos might not be an essential establishment to others but they also have employees that need to go back on work. PAGCOR needs to operate again even by slowly. Revenues came from their operations are being used to fund the government's projects and works e.g charity, social welfare, etc.

[bittraffic]

Studies show that the corona strand in the Philippines isn't a killer as much as the strand in some countries like Brazil.  It may not be safe because once the patient has a weak heart and respiratory system, the patient will eventually experience the hard breathing so they might have to implement strict measures like checking the health of their customers and even the casino workers.

[Oilacris]

This is good news for gamblers who badly want to gamble if they allowed the reopening of casinos. But knowing the correct situation, our country has already almost 19,000 positive cases, they might reject this request. And if ever they will reopen land-based casinos, perhaps only high-class people can gamble because lower-class gamblers don't gamble in a big casino. Personally, I don't know if they will approve this request or not because unlike the gamblers, the public will probably don't want to reopen casinos.

This doesnt only talk in PH alone but also in other places as well where they do even having that ECQ or GCQ whatsoever where they do still continue to
open up the public in spite of the spreading virus and take it as an example which is currently happening in Japan where they dont impose any quarantine-like
but just simply depending on discipline into its citizens and still continue into their normal living.

Answering if its worth to re-open those gambling physical places then as long they do follow up that new protocol then i wouldnt see it as a problem though
and come to think that even malls are already opened which it is actually the same since both do generate crowd.

[dothebeats]

Given that most casinos are situated within the capital region where most of the infection occurred, I don't think it's a good idea for PAGCOR to consider reopening gambling establishments for the sake of the economy. The risks are far greater than the rewards, and might even force the government to install yet another series of enhanced community quarantines in the region where it is most affected, and people can no longer afford that.

I don't see why others are against this. What's the difference between opening these land-based casinos while every other establishment is now open for services? An establishment that way more lots of people such as malls, restaurants, markets, grocery, department stores, and many more.

The establishments you've mentioned are closely-monitored by local government officials and strict implementation of the guidelines proposed by IATF is always observed. Also, these are essential establishments that people need to go in order to get their supplies and food, so your point is moot. Gambling establishments with closed-air ventilation (most of them are) are giant petri dishes of virus that can potentially initiate a super-spreader event just like what happened in South Korea.

If the concern is the affection, then why shift into GCQ? Why other businesses with more people allowed to open? Lockdown for several months should be imposed. Are people can able to handle that long? Definitely no.

Exactly, that's why the economy is slowly but gradually being reopened with important businesses being prioritized first. Casinos are establishments which most people can live without, therefore not really important to take some hastened reopening.

Land-based casinos under PAGCOR are highly strict. People can't just go inside or for a much better term, common people aren't allowed. You need to show you are capable of playing there. Therefore, if the strict capacity limit will be imposed then the social distancing will be followed properly compare to other establishments. Their safety measure is much more strict compare to others.

Jokes on you, high-ranking government officials and people of all sorts can enter these fancy casinos provided that you just dress nicely. You don't even have to show money in order to get in. Also, the virus does not discriminate between rich people and the commoners, so this argument shouldn't even be put forth.

Other care for gamblers but didn't concern of other people who are going every day on those large establishments that are allowed to open lol. Land-based casinos might not be an essential establishment to others but they also have employees that need to go back on work. PAGCOR needs to operate again even by slowly. Revenues came from their operations are being used to fund the government's projects and works e.g charity, social welfare, etc.

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Again, casinos promote mass gatherings of unimportant matters. People hold things in there that are necessary for their gambling exploits which could pass the virus more often than they can even blink. I get the sentiment that casino employees are currently out of revenues since the lockdowns were imposed but aren't most of the citizens on the same page? For now, most people will agree that physical casinos are UNIMPORTANT to our society given the situation. They bring in revenue but are revenues more important than public welfare and health safety? I think not. It's great if people will actually follow the guidelines strictly, but most of it will be forgotten inside a place wherein anyone thinks only of one thing and one thing only: winning the jackpot.

[chaser15]

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Appreciate your long post but still, what you point out is not a reason why land-based casinos shouldn't be re-opened. These establishments will surely follow the protocol better than any other establishment.

Did you say government monitoring those? Are you there? Do you commute and passes at these establishments every day? Don't give a statement wherein you aren't on the actual situation. I'm witnessing the status of the Metro, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Do you really think more people will go here once they re-opened? What mass gathering you are talking about? The capacity is always limited and that was part of the recommendations to IATF.

Your advanced thinking will not help here. I don't see how it will be a big problem if casinos will re-opened. It's not that this establishment always has lots of customers in a time like this. And even if does, what's more for other establishments?

Funny, that you will blame the casino re-opening for the possible shifting again of the capital to ECQ? Do you think that will be the reason? Instead of crying about casino re-opening, blame government agencies that are not implementing a strict protocol for those essential establishments you mentioned that is a priority to open. They will bring more virus infection to compare to casino re-opening. That's the reality.

[Vaculin]

It's a government owned so we can expect it will be open, if other establishments are already open like malls where people gather, they has to open as well. Opening is not a challenge here, the big challenge is whether they can get people to play when the virus is still not contain.

We might look at the number of the cases small, but the way it's growing, it has been escalating pretty well.
Therefore we should not underestimate that as we never know what will happen if the spread gets more quicker.

Anyway, good luck to PAGCOR, hopefully as a government entity, they will set as an example of implementing the law inside the casino.

[Nellayar]

I don't know the urge they feel but in this current situation, it is not necessary for PAGCOR to reopen. It will just give unnecessary harm for the people who surrounds and enters in PAGCOR. Afaik, our current status in transmission stats is not yet good. That's why we should not be complacent because wave 2 might come if we will take a wrong move in this pandemic (I hope not so).

Though it is government owned corporation, I think that it is better for them to create an online platform for their customers that risking the lives of people. Besides, there are many online games and there is already transition from reality to virtual. Just like in our education system in this year.

[Russlenat]

I don't know the urge they feel but in this current situation, it is not necessary for PAGCOR to reopen. It will just give unnecessary harm for the people who surrounds and enters in PAGCOR. Afaik, our current status in transmission stats is not yet good. That's why we should not be complacent because wave 2 might come if we will take a wrong move in this pandemic (I hope not so).

Though it is government owned corporation, I think that it is better for them to create an online platform for their customers that risking the lives of people. Besides, there are many online games and there is already transition from reality to virtual. Just like in our education system in this year.

I believe the Philippines need some funds as they have been releasing billions of pesos for the Social Amelioration Program or SAP.

According to the news : DBM releases P199.975-Billion for DSWD Social Amelioration Program

They need to recover that amount.

[carlfebz2]

I don't know the urge they feel but in this current situation, it is not necessary for PAGCOR to reopen. It will just give unnecessary harm for the people who surrounds and enters in PAGCOR. Afaik, our current status in transmission stats is not yet good. That's why we should not be complacent because wave 2 might come if we will take a wrong move in this pandemic (I hope not so).

Though it is government owned corporation, I think that it is better for them to create an online platform for their customers that risking the lives of people. Besides, there are many online games and there is already transition from reality to virtual. Just like in our education system in this year.

I believe the Philippines need some funds as they have been releasing billions of pesos for the Social Amelioration Program or SAP.

According to the news : DBM releases P199.975-Billion for DSWD Social Amelioration Program

They need to recover that amount.

There would be no other options to get some tax but to re-open businesses knowing that Philippines is a developing country which means it cant really sustain for that long if they arent generating something

and do continue to support its citizens. Giving out billions but doesnt earn in return via means of tax, so they would really come up into that kind of decision since they wont really have any choice.

If they would continue to isolate or do have that strict quarantine then it will surely collapsed the entire economy. For 1st world countries then they can withstand but for lower ones then its understandable on making
out such decision and the government is fully aware with that.

[goaldigger]

PAGCOR already allows POGO to operate so I think casinos are asking as well for their approval so they can now continue doing business. We heard the news about the OKADA Hotel reducing their manpower because of no operation so if its continue to happen then we might hear a sad news from other big casinos. The risk is high on casinos, so it will depend on the gambler if they will go or not, for now think for your safety and health.

[shoreno]

PAGCOR already allows POGO to operate so I think casinos are asking as well for their approval so they can now continue doing business.

pogo ? the one that has run by chineses right ?  thought they tagged as illegal gambling operator before but did they sorted that out  ?

We heard the news about the OKADA Hotel reducing their manpower because of no operation so if its continue to happen then we might hear a sad news from other big casinos. The risk is high on casinos, so it will depend on the gambler if they will go or not, for now think for your safety and health.

thats normal and happening right after every country hit by covid  . many company are reducing thier empoyees  . the one you shared here is hotel but what its relation to gambling  ?  i think both hotel and gambling places are seperate so no problem if gambling platforms are going to resume now  .

[smyslov]

I'm glad that they did this, Philippine gambling casinos have so many workers and industries that depends on their gaming and these people are starving, other companies and industry are slowly opening up, if the guidelines they've submitted are approved then workers will not have to rely on the government for dole out and support.

[reliable]

I'm glad that they did this, Philippine gambling casinos have so many workers and industries that depends on their gaming and these people are starving, other companies and industry are slowly opening up, if the guidelines they've submitted are approved then workers will not have to rely on the government for dole out and support.

More or less now we will start hearing about the casinos to start open up in June because it’s being long time and many people are dependent on the job which they do here and thus it’s becoming difficult to survive now . Only thing people will have to follow a lot of guidelines else it would become a chaos and will lead to more cases in future .

[Yaunfitda]

PAGCOR already allows POGO to operate so I think casinos are asking as well for their approval so they can now continue doing business. We heard the news about the OKADA Hotel reducing their manpower because of no operation so if its continue to happen then we might hear a sad news from other big casinos. The risk is high on casinos, so it will depend on the gambler if they will go or not, for now think for your safety and health.

Yes, it was reported here: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Business-trends/Philippine-casino-operator-Okada-Manila-lays-off-over-1-000-staff

I don't think though that it is well-known in the Philippines, and as per article, it competes with Solaire resort, City of Dreams Manila and Resorts World Manila. So in a sense, even prior to the Covid-19, they might be losing big money to there competitor. Heard of Okada, but I haven't play their yet.

It is good to hear if Pagcor has the guidelines and that the government will approved it. I do hope that the management can really control the players as we all know that casinos not just in the Philippines are very crowded and everyone wanted to go inside and play whether you are just a average joe player or high roller.

[Wexnident]

I'm just waiting tbh. For the entire government to regret the moves they are currently doing right now. Not concentrating on the problem of the pandemic, creating stupid movements such as avoiding mass testing and then pushing for a GCQ after 3 months of lockdown, "enforcing" social distancing ( I honestly could not see any sort of such in my area, most of what I saw were them bringing minors outside to their office since People below the age of 21 weren't allowed to leave their houses). I'd rather see a spike then a steady curve than a gradually rising curve of number of infections in the ph right now tbh.

I don't see why others are against this. What's the difference between opening these land-based casinos while every other establishment is now open for services? An establishment that way more lots of people such as malls, restaurants, markets, grocery, department stores, and many more.

Most of what you stated is actually establishments that sell daily necessities such as food, water, clothes, etc. so it's quite understandable that the government made their openings a priority. As for the rest, the maximum that the government allowed them to operate is at 50% only. Anyhow, most of us aren't against opening the casino cause of the reason that people gather in there, but rather because they are opening up businesses like these when proper measures with regards to testing others haven't even been issued.

In GCQ areas, the following can operate at full capacity: (Category I industries) Power, energy, water, utilities, agriculture, fishery and forestry industries, food manufacturing and food supply chain businesses, food retail establishments such as supermarkets, food preparation establishments limited to take-out and delivery services, health-related establishments, logistics, information technology and telecommunications, and the media.

Source: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1283024/list-what-to-expect-in-areas-under-gcq-mgcq

[maydna]

If the approval can be released in this month, that will make many gamblers at the land-based happy because they can go to those places to play many gambling games again. But I hope people can search for the other news about the safety of that place, so they don't have to worry about going there. Besides that, people need to make sure that everything is okay. The land-based casino needs to prepare their places, including preparing the hand sanitizer in many corners in that place for the visitor.

The other choice for people is they can wait for a while, perhaps wait for a week or two weeks before they can visit on that casino, and they can see the update every day for that place so they can know if they can visit that place without worry.

[Ucy]

PAGCOR already allows POGO to operate so I think casinos are asking as well for their approval so they can now continue doing business. We heard the news about the OKADA Hotel reducing their manpower because of no operation so if its continue to happen then we might hear a sad news from other big casinos. The risk is high on casinos, so it will depend on the gambler if they will go or not, for now think for your safety and health.

I think the government should set a proper standard for safety, responsible betting, moderation etc in the casinos especially  those that have no such standard/rules. That will likely reduce the tendency for casinos to take big risk in the crisis situation.
There should be few people in the casinos, and they shouldn't be staying too long to allow other customers to come in and bet. The casinos should be well ventilated if indoor and should include other safety measures.
A responsible government shouldn't be allowing its citizens to gamble or take too much risk in casinos. A "short bet" with small amount of money (depending on what the players can afford to lose) should be enough. And the games should be good/safe games.

[GDragon]

My conclusion:
Even though the infection percentage is pretty low and the number of deaths are also low, looking at the current trends doesn't really give confidence for non-essential businesses to operate. I believe Philippines will have to wait for more time unless the number of infection subsides. If it's a question of government revenue, Philippines government should consider promoting online casinos as an alternative.

This is a nice conclusion btw, you are right about the country not being able to flatten the curve. And still, a lot of the businesses have been reopened not because its safe but because of our economy and people. They have to work. If you're wondering why the infection percentage is very low, its because the country couldn't afford to test a lot of people. The government is only targeting to test around 1.5% to 2% percent of the total PH population as of May 19. That's why why we have low infection rates if you are basing it in our 110 million population.

I also agree with the government promoting online casinos instead, I don't think a lot of gamblers will swarm the casinos if they reopened soon, although I agree there will still a lot who are very eager to gamble, there are still those who will choose online. It isn't safe. Its better to go out for essential use only. We just can't see where is the virus without the testing. I just hope if PAGCOR allows the reopening of the casinos, the rules will be followed in order for the PH to flatten the curve, hopefully.

[plvbob0070]

This is just mad.

They know that the cases are still increasing, they implemented GCQ, a lot of testings are having a problem, they are submitting the anti-terror bill that just makes them like crybabies being scared and afraid of being told by media and social accounts. They have the nerve on focussing on this bill rather than focussing on the pandemic, and since they can't stop the increasing cases, they will just turn a blind eye to it and return to normal. And when they are asked about it, they will say that the people wanted it, so they went with it. In the end, their ego is more important than their people.

This why I think people would burst their anger even more if they allowed the reopening of casinos. The government has been busy with other issues and disregarding the most important issue we are facing. They should focus on dealing with the pandemic, but they are doing other businesses. The public might think that reopening casinos may be unnecessary because only those who have the privilege can gamble. But my concern is for the casino employees who also need their jobs.

~snip

The mall is far different from casinos. Even though they can make a crowd, not all establishment in malls is open. Mostly are for essentials like groceries, food business, hardware, and such. But business like the cinema is still closed as it is not necessary.

As for the reopening of a land-based casino, it's not that I am against this because I do understand that casino workers also need to go back to work. But what I'm concerned is when they reopen it, would not other gamblers find it unfair since they will only allow big casinos but gambling in small places is not allowed? A lot of Filipino gamblers can't afford to go to casinos, they just make small gatherings to gamble, mostly card games or cockfighting. So if they allowed casinos, there is also a high possibility that some gamblers would gamble illegally because they allowed gambling in casinos but not for small gambling places.

[Sanitough]

If the approval can be released in this month, that will make many gamblers at the land-based happy because they can go to those places to play many gambling games again. But I hope people can search for the other news about the safety of that place, so they don't have to worry about going there. Besides that, people need to make sure that everything is okay. The land-based casino needs to prepare their places, including preparing the hand sanitizer in many corners in that place for the visitor.

Once it's approve, it's not gonna be the normal, we will see a new normal. If I am not mistaken, Manila the capital of the Philippines is under GCQ right now, so it's just right for casinos to be re open. I know a lot of people are concern of the risk, but let's just say that they will never open if they are not putting measures to minimize the risk.

The other choice for people is they can wait for a while, perhaps wait for a week or two weeks before they can visit on that casino, and they can see the update every day for that place so they can know if they can visit that place without worry.

People can wait, but the government has been spending a lot, so they need to balance their finances so they will also generate income from their operation aside from taxes they will receive from private entities.

[carlisle1]

Just like every Non essential businesses in each country they are not priority so the chance of at least giving permit will take time.

If the approval can be released in this month, that will make many gamblers at the land-based happy because they can go to those places to play many gambling games again. But I hope people can search for the other news about the safety of that place, so they don't have to worry about going there. Besides that, people need to make sure that everything is okay. The land-based casino needs to prepare their places, including preparing the hand sanitizer in many corners in that place for the visitor.

I don't think it will be possible to re open this month ,because this is just a luxury and not a main needs of the people,the government is controlling the socializing and with this?there will be a bridge to risk the pandemic again.

The other choice for people is they can wait for a while, perhaps wait for a week or two weeks before they can visit on that casino, and they can see the update every day for that place so they can know if they can visit that place without worry.

weeks are not enough mate,because the virus can stay two weeks in our body without us noticing this so there will always be risk,better at least another month or two for safer gambling.

[FlightyPouch]

I'm glad that they did this, Philippine gambling casinos have so many workers and industries that depends on their gaming and these people are starving, other companies and industry are slowly opening up, if the guidelines they've submitted are approved then workers will not have to rely on the government for dole out and support.

I agree that these people should be really in their jobs right now for them to support their family. The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things. The bills they just passed, another bill being talked about, how about the people still being affected by the pandemic? Those hundred thousands patients that tested positive with the virus? The mass testing? where is it now? They are more focussed on this "balangay" as a national shit right now that they focus more on rather than the real problem that the country is facing. I think I am a terrorist right now.

[milewilda]

I'm glad that they did this, Philippine gambling casinos have so many workers and industries that depends on their gaming and these people are starving, other companies and industry are slowly opening up, if the guidelines they've submitted are approved then workers will not have to rely on the government for dole out and support.

I agree that these people should be really in their jobs right now for them to support their family. The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things. The bills they just passed, another bill being talked about, how about the people still being affected by the pandemic? Those hundred thousands patients that tested positive with the virus? The mass testing? where is it now? They are more focussed on this "balangay" as a national shit right now that they focus more on rather than the real problem that the country is facing. I think I am a terrorist right now.

What they can do? They have already done anything and they are going out of budget thats why they do let out people to be on work. Its just really too selfish to conclude that government isnt really doing their job or
do say that they arent concern into its citizens safety but what you can do? As long the vaccine isnt available yet then theres no way on stopping for this virus to spread.We are embracing the new normal now and people
wont really have any options left and as said earlier by other members that we dont have any choice but to deal with it and since the government cant able to handle out in terms of financial support then
they would really come up into this option.

[Maus0728]

The mass testing? where is it now?

Our government are making some progress now, the medical laboratories are improving and the mass testing is advancing as well. There is no need to feel uncertain since the situation is now being under control.

They are more focussed on this "balangay" as a national shit right now that they focus more on rather than the real problem that the country is facing. I think I am a terrorist right now.

Just curious, are you are Filipino? It seems that the news is scattered in every social media platform. The masses are making a move in signing a petition to the "Anti-Terrorism" bill. I wonder if its just a move to contain people.
As per the PAGCOR issue, as I see it, there is nothing we can do but to obey and mind our own business if you are going to gamble or not. If you are seriously taking precautionary measures in avoiding the virus, then do not bother gambling outside your house; otherwise you are also seriously risking your life over enjoyment.

[Bttzed03]

Gamblers Drive Hours and Wait in Lines, as Casinos Reopen Amid Coronavirus

^ That could potentially happen in the Philippines also once land-based casinos are allowed to open. Just like how drunkards were so excited to quench their thirst with alcohol when the liquor ban was lifted, some gamblers might be itching to touch the tables and machines in the casinos

Disclaimer: I didn't read the full article because WSJ won't allow me unless I subscribe.

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I don't think it will be possible to re open this month ,because this is just a luxury and not a main needs of the people,the government is controlling the socializing and with this?there will be a bridge to risk the pandemic again.

You are missing the point. It's not how people view casinos but it's how these land-based casinos help generate funds for the economy. In the eyes of the Government, that is essential.

Maybe read what @chaser15 said in the previous comments about implementations of safety measure in casinos [1 2] .


@FlightyPouch, I wanted to reply to your comments but that would derail this thread. If you got other problems concerning the pandemic and local issues, try to post that in our local board or in Politics & Society.

[FlightyPouch]

I'm glad that they did this, Philippine gambling casinos have so many workers and industries that depends on their gaming and these people are starving, other companies and industry are slowly opening up, if the guidelines they've submitted are approved then workers will not have to rely on the government for dole out and support.

I agree that these people should be really in their jobs right now for them to support their family. The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things. The bills they just passed, another bill being talked about, how about the people still being affected by the pandemic? Those hundred thousands patients that tested positive with the virus? The mass testing? where is it now? They are more focussed on this "balangay" as a national shit right now that they focus more on rather than the real problem that the country is facing. I think I am a terrorist right now.

What they can do? They have already done anything and they are going out of budget thats why they do let out people to be on work. Its just really too selfish to conclude that government isnt really doing their job or
do say that they arent concern into its citizens safety but what you can do? As long the vaccine isnt available yet then theres no way on stopping for this virus to spread.We are embracing the new normal now and people
wont really have any options left and as said earlier by other members that we dont have any choice but to deal with it and since the government cant able to handle out in terms of financial support then
they would really come up into this option.

No. I am not saying that they did not do anything, I am saying that they are not focussing on the matter at hand. The senate are tackling "balangay" as a boat right now which I don't think a good timing to this time. People still need help, People are still dying from the virus.

They are more focussed on this "balangay" as a national shit right now that they focus more on rather than the real problem that the country is facing. I think I am a terrorist right now.

Just curious, are you are Filipino? It seems that the news is scattered in every social media platform. The masses are making a move in signing a petition to the "Anti-Terrorism" bill. I wonder if its just a move to contain people.

Yes, I am.

https://mobile.twitter.com/cnnphilippines/status/1268134175128686592

I've seen this Twitter Post so it kinds of annoy me since new hundreds of cases are still happening and deaths are still going. And yeah, thanks for that, that give me some thought of some guy spreading this for controlling the people.

[verita1]

I agree, the number of new daily infections is what inspires insecurity for the population. Only essential activity businesses should continue to operate until these infection rates drop.
Sadly, Casinos are the most affected in this pandemic due to the fact that they have to carry out their operations in contact with people.

[Kemarit]

I'm pretty sure that you are aware that I do love to play in land base casino, My urge to go to land base casino in this lock down and how I fight it. And my favorite place to play is Resorts World and City of Dreams. So I'm really excited if Pagcor will allow those two big casino's to open up in this new norm.

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

[NavI_027]

Within two days, the number of covid 19 cases here in the Philippines climbed by 1000 making a total of 20000+. That's absolutely disturbing because it seems that we are not flattening the curve at all. Just an update.

Despite of this, I hope IATF still give permit for land based casinos to continue their business. I know that the situation might get even worse by reopening such non essential sectors but let us put in our consideration that our nation's coffers are depleting fast. Tax revenue from such industries could help a lot. Here is an article you can read to give you estimated numbers (sorry I can't find a more updated one). As long as they will strictly comply on the safety protocols, they can eliminate the spread of the virus.

The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things.

Indeed. Actually I'm worrying a little bit with regards to protesters who conduct rallies recently promoting to junk Anti Terror Bill. Well I agree with their vision but, please for God's sake, not in the times of pandemic. I think government should postponed this bill for the meantime in order to calm those protesters and avoid mass gatherings .

[TravelMug]

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

And that is the best decision you are going to make, forget about your gambling addiction for just a second and think of the long term effect.

For sure many gamblers are going to be happy seeing their favourite casino open in other parts of the world, however, you really don't know what will happen to you. Philippines did a good job, trying to control the spread of the virus, and now that they are easing their quarantine, I do hope that the government did make the best decision for the Filipinos.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

And that is the best decision you are going to make, forget about your gambling addiction for just a second and think of the long term effect.

For sure many gamblers are going to be happy seeing their favourite casino open in other parts of the world, however, you really don't know what will happen to you. Philippines did a good job, trying to control the spread of the virus, and now that they are easing their quarantine, I do hope that the government did make the best decision for the Filipinos.

Indeed. You should step aside your gambling addiction and think about your own safety or your health because it will be the best for you and your family. We all know this community quarantine lockdown is taking too long and a lot of people are suffering because they can't do the things that they love, so they should still have patience and faith for the vaccine to come for them to the things that they love again like gambling.

[Jating]

I agree, the number of new daily infections is what inspires insecurity for the population. Only essential activity businesses should continue to operate until these infection rates drop.
Sadly, Casinos are the most affected in this pandemic due to the fact that they have to carry out their operations in contact with people.

I don't think that casino's though are the most affected by this pandemic, I would say Philippine tourism is more impacted by the pandemic. What the people behind wanted is to get everything back, meaning make money out of this situations as obviously, casino businesses are losing money here.

On the other hand, government need to generate money thru taxing those casinos mandated under PAGCOR that's why they are pushing that casinos need to re-open. So regardless, it is up to casino gamblers, if they wanted to go and take the risk of exposing themselves in the casino, although there are plans to limit the crowd.

[Russlenat]

So regardless, it is up to casino gamblers, if they wanted to go and take the risk of exposing themselves in the casino, although there are plans to limit the crowd.

Casino gamblers are risk takers, no doubt they are willing to risk themselves just to play in a casino, they have been waiting for this opportunity to go back on their normal routine, so its expected that a lot of casino goers will play once PAGCOR will start to operate. Government own this agency, they know for sure the risk, so I won't question their decision if they re-opens.

[noormcs5]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

Source:

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https://pokercastasia.com/2020/06/02/pagcor-waiting-for-approval-from-iatf-for-covid19-to-resume-land-base-operations/

The simple answer to this is that it is not safe to open the land based casino even with the precautionary measures. As we can see many shops and business are being opened up even though the number of corona cases are increasing everyday. I think government should only open those business which are extremely important to meet the essential requirements of the people.

[Taskford]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

Source:

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https://pokercastasia.com/2020/06/02/pagcor-waiting-for-approval-from-iatf-for-covid19-to-resume-land-base-operations/

The simple answer to this is that it is not safe to open the land based casino even with the precautionary measures. As we can see many shops and business are being opened up even though the number of corona cases are increasing everyday. I think government should only open those business which are extremely important to meet the essential requirements of the people.

Not safe due to the fact that the virus still here as well they doesn't contribute to anything so I think this plan will be cancelled again the same on what happen to POGO before, provably  leisure and entertainment industry will open up once there is a vaccine available. If they proceed this plan then might this will contribute for another wave of covid infection since for sure many foreign gamblers will came and we know how dangerous to mingle with other people especially those persons who are unidentified on where they came.

[Fundamentals Of]

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Although there are health measures that could be implemented such as wearing a mask and observing physical distancing, it is still not a guarantee that if ever an infected gambler comes in, there won't be anyone who will get infected.

They better wait for the transmission to low down to the minimum before finally opening up their casinos.

[rodskee]

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Although there are health measures that could be implemented such as wearing a mask and observing physical distancing, it is still not a guarantee that if ever an infected gambler comes in, there won't be anyone who will get infected.

They better wait for the transmission to low down to the minimum before finally opening up their casinos.

Land-based casinos isn't safe yet, physical interaction will always possible and who knows if one of the people around are infected
of this virus which can easily transmitted even you are wearing mask.
best to wait and not to rush things out as numbers of infected people who are being test are increasing. Better to wait than being
sorry as this virus still spreading around.
Government should focus to other sources of funding instead of allowing this business to operates, safety of the people and also
to lessen the potentials of spreading more.

I agree, the number of new daily infections is what inspires insecurity for the population. Only essential activity businesses should continue to operate until these infection rates drop.
Sadly, Casinos are the most affected in this pandemic due to the fact that they have to carry out their operations in contact with people.

Not only drops but Ended,because even if there are only few infection still they can infect many in just in short time so basically we
cannot just rely on that but we need assurance and securities in the best Line.

[carlisle1]

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I don't think it will be possible to re open this month ,because this is just a luxury and not a main needs of the people,the government is controlling the socializing and with this?there will be a bridge to risk the pandemic again.

You are missing the point. It's not how people view casinos but it's how these land-based casinos help generate funds for the economy. In the eyes of the Government, that is essential.

Even how Helpful this is for the government still this is a Pandemic,while the government it self is pushing to tell people staying inside their houses even the lockdown or quarantine is stopped then they are allowing Gamblers just because there are safety precautions ?

Sorry mate even how hard i try to understand yet there are part that is not allowable (though we have our own opinion in this matter and i respect yours so please try to respect mine)

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Absolutely,we are still counting many infection each day though the death is subsiding yet this is far from safeties.

Although there are health measures that could be implemented such as wearing a mask and observing physical distancing, it is still not a guarantee that if ever an infected gambler comes in, there won't be anyone who will get infected.

yeah even if they Boxed each gamblers to make them safe from the Virus yet since they are in same place there are still probabilities.

They better wait for the transmission to low down to the minimum before finally opening up their casinos.

actually?they need to wait for the cure before letting this non essential activities to be allowed and that is what i believe is right if we really wanted to fight this Virus.

[Vaculin]

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Let's look at the graph, ..




As of today, Philippines has over 20,000 cases of covid-19 infection already, but I don't think stopping the economic activity would solve that spread.
The government has already lifted the lock down and we are already in GCQ, they can's stop this virus, we just need to be responsible and business will operate as usual but with the new normal.

[Bttzed03]

Even how Helpful this is for the government still this is a Pandemic,while the government it self is pushing to tell people staying inside their houses even the lockdown or quarantine is stopped then they are allowing Gamblers just because there are safety precautions ?

It's like you are living in another country. Did you not read that almost anyone is allowed to go out now that ECQ was lifted? Under GCQ, you can go out but you are still required to wear mask and practice social distancing.

You argue why they would allow gamblers just because there are safety precautions? Well, it's GCQ. Besides, other establishments are already allowed to open at a limited capacity, why not add another that's revenue generating like land-based casinos? Borrowing from @chaser15, they are most likely the best at implementing safety measures.  

In addition, the two months lockdown is to help flatten the curve and give time for the government to prepare health facilities for covid-19 patients. I think they've achieved that (especially the facilities). Sooner or later, majority of the businesses will be allowed to open and public transportation will resume because the economy needs to recover. All that while the risk of infection is still present and the vaccine not coming anytime soon. That's the reality we are in right now.
 

Sorry mate even how hard i try to understand yet there are part that is not allowable (though we have our own opinion in this matter and i respect yours so please try to respect mine)

I'm just showing you the logic or the position of the government if they approve land-based casinos to reopen at a limited capacity. One of the economic managers already mentioned before that the revenues from the gambling industry is essential. He gave that statement at the height of POGO reopening issue. I read that in a news article but can't remember which one. You are free to reject that if you want.

[Sadlife]

The government will have no choice to approve as they need income to revitalized the economy and one of the keys are Casino's that pays 20%-30% of tax.
The question is will gamblers risk their lives to play gambling games once more.

[plvbob0070]

I'm pretty sure that you are aware that I do love to play in land base casino, My urge to go to land base casino in this lock down and how I fight it. And my favorite place to play is Resorts World and City of Dreams. So I'm really excited if Pagcor will allow those two big casino's to open up in this new norm.

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

Well if the IATF allowed the reopening of land-based casinos, then it's up to the casino operators whether to open immediately or not. But of course, they also need to imply strict safety protocols to ensure that everyone in the facility is safe. I guess they will only allow casinos if they will provide information on how they will apply the protocols for the new normal. And deciding whether to gamble or not is still yours at the end of the day, just make sure you'll be extra careful because going outside is already a risk.

Within two days, the number of covid 19 cases here in the Philippines climbed by 1000 making a total of 20000+. That's absolutely disturbing because it seems that we are not flattening the curve at all. Just an update.

Despite of this, I hope IATF still give permit for land based casinos to continue their business. I know that the situation might get even worse by reopening such non essential sectors but let us put in our consideration that our nation's coffers are depleting fast. Tax revenue from such industries could help a lot. Here is an article you can read to give you estimated numbers (sorry I can't find a more updated one). As long as they will strictly comply on the safety protocols, they can eliminate the spread of the virus.

The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things.

Indeed. Actually I'm worrying a little bit with regards to protesters who conduct rallies recently promoting to junk Anti Terror Bill. Well I agree with their vision but, please for God's sake, not in the times of pandemic. I think government should postponed this bill for the meantime in order to calm those protesters and avoid mass gatherings .

There is no doubt that they will consider this proposal because we can't remove the fact that casinos also plays a big role in the economy. Not just from tax revenue, but also hundreds of employees are affected by this, so we'll just see what will they do about this.

They should really focus on the more important matter compared to this terror bill because people won't stop protesting unless they will not pass this bill. The more people protest outside, the more chances that this virus will just continue to increase, and it's threatening.

[Pamadar]

I think this is right time to Open Gambling Casinos because each country needs Income and gambling is one of the most profitable way for Governments.

I also Believe that Casino operator can manage to Make precautions for the Players inside casino.
They can Keep People safe and go home without Infection of Virus.

I missed Going to Casino and i will surely enjoy it now again.

[aioc]

I think this is right time to Open Gambling Casinos because each country needs Income and gambling is one of the most profitable way for Governments.

I also Believe that Casino operator can manage to Make precautions for the Players inside casino.
They can Keep People safe and go home without Infection of Virus.

I missed Going to Casino and i will surely enjoy it now again.

I believe that Casinos, especially in the Philippines, should operate under strict guidelines, casinos in the Philippines are a big attraction for tourist, they have loyal clients and they are going to support these casinos if they see that they are implementing protocols, the government badly need revenue so they can sustain this pandemic.

[harizen]

I'm in favor of the re-opening of land-based casinos. Businesses should always be back even slowly. The number of cases is increasing every day but it's unfair that just because casinos will be re-opened, others will think of this as they will probably add some risks. Surely, not all are eager to play at the casinos so no need to criticize them. The eagerness of people to go out and find ways to support their families are the ones that will contribute more to the infection especially in the essential businesses. They have no choice to the point that they will disregard the safety measures which we can actually see every day.

Well if the IATF allowed the reopening of land-based casinos, then it's up to the casino operators whether to open immediately or not. But of course, they also need to imply strict safety protocols to ensure that everyone in the facility is safe. I guess they will only allow casinos if they will provide information on how they will apply the protocols for the new normal. And deciding whether to gamble or not is still yours at the end of the day, just make sure you'll be extra careful because going outside is already a risk.

Even without the strict guidelines by IATF, casinos will surely implement a strict protocol. They are strict even before pandemic so what's more if they will re-opened. Plus the fact that they will only allow limited capacity, that's a good safety measure.

Yes, you are right. IATF will not just allow casinos to re-opened without proving information about safety measures.

They should really focus on the more important matter compared to this terror bill because people won't stop protesting unless they will not pass this bill.

That discussion should not be addressed here. It's more of self-opinion, at least in my own view.

We can't just protest or say what we want without understanding and knowing the deep information about that bill.

[FlightyPouch]

The disappointing part right here just that the government are not focussing on the pandemic and focus on other things.

Indeed. Actually I'm worrying a little bit with regards to protesters who conduct rallies recently promoting to junk Anti Terror Bill. Well I agree with their vision but, please for God's sake, not in the times of pandemic. I think government should postponed this bill for the meantime in order to calm those protesters and avoid mass gatherings .

I think you will not be able to stop these people from protesting. This is a way for them to control the media, to control the people. There is this one case where a police officer planted evidence to someone against the drug war, this could happen to any of us. Just imagine, having an argument against the government protocols, instead of them correcting that, you will be taken by the police and be imprisoned for days. They are saying that being an activist is not against that bill, but I guess there will be the times that they will be taking advantage of that.

[Kemarit]

{..snip..}

And that is the best decision you are going to make, forget about your gambling addiction for just a second and think of the long term effect.

For sure many gamblers are going to be happy seeing their favourite casino open in other parts of the world, however, you really don't know what will happen to you. Philippines did a good job, trying to control the spread of the virus, and now that they are easing their quarantine, I do hope that the government did make the best decision for the Filipinos.

Indeed. You should step aside your gambling addiction and think about your own safety or your health because it will be the best for you and your family. We all know this community quarantine lockdown is taking too long and a lot of people are suffering because they can't do the things that they love, so they should still have patience and faith for the vaccine to come for them to the things that they love again like gambling.

Thanks to both of you, yes I'm stepping aside by addiction, although it is really hard to stop it, but I have to because of safety concerns and it could save me money in this current pandemic.

Yes, I'm also in favor of the re-opening no doubt to make the economy roll again. But gamblers should make their own decision and don't blame the government or the casino if they contacted the virus. Everyone should be responsible now, not just the money that you gamble, but your health as well. So think wisely!!!

[Saisher]

It will eventually approve, it's a government run company and they need money to augment the needs in this time of pandemic, and they have already implemented protocols on some establishment like malls, marketplace and transportation, so why not casinos where it is the government's biggest revenue generating companies.

[noormcs5]

So it's going to be a big dilemma to me, should I go and play or think of my safety first? So we will see, if this will push through then I have to fight this feeling again as a value more of my health and I'm afraid to get infected. So probably I will pass, LOL.

And that is the best decision you are going to make, forget about your gambling addiction for just a second and think of the long term effect.

For sure many gamblers are going to be happy seeing their favourite casino open in other parts of the world, however, you really don't know what will happen to you. Philippines did a good job, trying to control the spread of the virus, and now that they are easing their quarantine, I do hope that the government did make the best decision for the Filipinos.

There are two things to consider here, either make the people happy by opening their favorite casinos or do not open such casinos to control the spread of covid-19. I think they should wait for few more months and then open the casino. This way they will not compromise with the health of the people.

[Taskford]

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Let's look at the graph, ..




As of today, Philippines has over 20,000 cases of covid-19 infection already, but I don't think stopping the economic activity would solve that spread.
The government has already lifted the lock down and we are already in GCQ, they can's stop this virus, we just need to be responsible and business will operate as usual but with the new normal.

So disturbing to see those numbers increasing day by day but we cannot do anything since we don't have any vaccine available yet and government also cannot do nothing to open up the establishment just to bring back the economy alive again, They don't have funds so they let the people go to their respective work so for us we should responsible and always obey the new normal protocol so that we will be away from the disease as well we are not contributing for worse recession happening if worse case scenario will come and still no vaccine will be available by this year.

[LogitechMouse]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

If I will be asked, I don't think that is safe to reopen this gaming casinos and as long as there is no cure for this virus nothing is safe.

The only thing that they've done this is that the economy of our country has battered heavily because of the pandemic. We are a developing country and this pandemic has affected lots of people already especially in the NCR where a huge percentage of the total cases came from there.

Yes the ratio of the total population to the total cases right now is relatively low but the healthcare system isn't as good as other countries in Asia. Either way, this is a risky move by the PAGCOR but they must do this for the economy of the country.

[JoMarrah Iarim Dan]

Even though land-based casinos will open soon, I think I will still not go to play there. I am afraid that I may get the virus on my way there since I am only a commuter. I will just spend my time in online casinos rather than in land-based casinos right now because I also think that I will not enjoy my gambling in land-based the way I enjoy playing before due to I will always pay attention in putting alcohol on my hands eveytime I hold something sticky or something that my co-players touches.

[Debonaire217]

I don't see why others are against this. What's the difference between opening these land-based casinos while every other establishment is now open for services? An establishment that way more lots of people such as malls, restaurants, markets, grocery, department stores, and many more.

If the concern is the affection, then why shift into GCQ? Why other businesses with more people allowed to open? Lockdown for several months should be imposed. Are people can able to handle that long? Definitely no.

The aim is to limit the establishment that will be opened, in order to limit human interaction and to lower daily new cases of COVID. While considering which establishment should be prioritized. Since we also have our option to gamble online then.

Other care for gamblers but didn't concern of other people who are going every day on those large establishments that are allowed to open lol. Land-based casinos might not be an essential establishment to others but they also have employees that need to go back on work. PAGCOR needs to operate again even by slowly. Revenues came from their operations are being used to fund the government's projects and works e.g charity, social welfare, etc.

You are right in a sense that there are employees that need to go back to work, but if we are looking at the industry as a whole, we should prioritize production of goods and necessities, and the main goal is to limit the interaction of people to the best possible ways available.

IMO, if we were to compare this scenario to Las Vegas, it is more reasonable that they open their casinos because most of their economy is relying in casinos. Unlike in our country, there are various businesses where taxes could be gathered from.

[BitcoinTurk]

As I have already written on topics that have similar content with this topic, opening such businesses does not actually involve an extremely high risk.  If we compare the markets and these businesses, we can see that the probability of infection is almost close in both businesses.  For this reason, I think that these decisions should not be evaluated unilaterally and that casino businesses should not be interpreted as either a virus center.

[carlfebz2]

Even though land-based casinos will open soon, I think I will still not go to play there. I am afraid that I may get the virus on my way there since I am only a commuter. I will just spend my time in online casinos rather than in land-based casinos right now because I also think that I will not enjoy my gambling in land-based the way I enjoy playing before due to I will always pay attention in putting alcohol on my hands eveytime I hold something sticky or something that my co-players touches.

I would really be also into that paranoid side since we dont like to be get infected on the first place.Its just really not worth to risk up yourself or ones health just to go into these places specially now that numbers
had risen up significantly which do already go >500 infected on daily basis.

If the situation becomes even more worst then its hard to consider on getting some approval in terms of re-opening these establishments or places once again.If they do then its their choice but theres
really the risk on worsening the situation even more.

We have seen on other places that they do already re-open which means that this one can be done by other places as well.Just be mindful on how to follow up protocols.

[Sanitough]

As I have already written on topics that have similar content with this topic, opening such businesses does not actually involve an extremely high risk.

There's always an "IF", and that is if they will strictly implement all the necessary measures, otherwise, what we fear will happen as when people enjoy and carried away by what they are doing, they sometimes forget that they need to follow some rules, and that is why it's necessary that the casino itself, have some people dedicated to keep an eye for any violators inside for prompt action.

If we compare the markets and these businesses, we can see that the probability of infection is almost close in both businesses.  For this reason, I think that these decisions should not be evaluated unilaterally and that casino businesses should not be interpreted as either a virus center.

Different business have different rate of infection chances as it depends on the set up of the business, that is why during GCQ, there are businesses that are still not permitted to operate.

[arwin100]

As I have already written on topics that have similar content with this topic, opening such businesses does not actually involve an extremely high risk.  If we compare the markets and these businesses, we can see that the probability of infection is almost close in both businesses.  For this reason, I think that these decisions should not be evaluated unilaterally and that casino businesses should not be interpreted as either a virus center.

By now there are so many establishment have open up their services so I think games and amusement companies will open up after they discuss some matters regarding on safety to their costumers and economy is suffering to much with this pandemic so provably government will let those to open so that they can collect money for good use as well to slowly paddle up tge economy.

[freedomgo]

As I have already written on topics that have similar content with this topic, opening such businesses does not actually involve an extremely high risk.  If we compare the markets and these businesses, we can see that the probability of infection is almost close in both businesses.  For this reason, I think that these decisions should not be evaluated unilaterally and that casino businesses should not be interpreted as either a virus center.

By now there are so many establishment have open up their services so I think games and amusement companies will open up after they discuss some matters regarding on safety to their costumers and economy is suffering to much with this pandemic so provably government will let those to open so that they can collect money for good use as well to slowly paddle up tge economy.

I'm sure they have carefully plan everything, and they will not approve the opening if they see some big risk.
Other businesses have opened up, what difference is a casino if the safety measures are strictly impose to people inside the casino.

Looking forward for the positive news of opening, casinos in USA have opened up already, I see no reason casinos in PH will not open.

[Genemind]

If casinos were to open, strict regulation and compliance are needed for the health and public safety not just for the employees, gamblers, but also for the community as a whole. Sanitation of equipment, chips, machines, physical distancing, the # of people who can come in, and also a thorough initial health assessment before players can go to the casino must be implemented. I really doubt if our economy can take it if ever a second wave of the virus will hit us if enforcement of safety and health regulation will be complacent in implementing rules during implementation.

Casinos contribute a lot of income and opportunities to the econony as a whole. It ia understandable that sooner or later they will have to start operating.

[chaser15]

If casinos were to open, strict regulation and compliance are needed for the health and public safety not just for the employees, gamblers, but also for the community as a whole. Sanitation of equipment, chips, machines, physical distancing, the # of people who can come in, and also a thorough initial health assessment before players can go to the casino must be implemented. I really doubt if our economy can take it if ever a second wave of the virus will hit us if enforcement of safety and health regulation will be complacent in implementing rules during implementation.

Expect that the casinos will have such safety measures. They won't be allowed to operate in the first place without that. And casinos are more organized compared to other businesses. They can control the capacity here and it will be followed accordingly.

The possible second wave won't come from casino re-opening so let them operate.

IMO, if we were to compare this scenario to Las Vegas, it is more reasonable that they open their casinos because most of their economy is relying in casinos. Unlike in our country, there are various businesses where taxes could be gathered from.

Taxes aren't enough. Billions already spend.

Php200 Billion was used to cover the Php5,000 to Php8,000 aid for 18 million families. That does not include those general spendings to help health workers which also cost billions and a dedicated budget for other agencies that are mostly focused on the pandemic. Take note also that both public and health workers who may contract the virus while in the line of duty will get compensation of P100,000. And there are misc spendings which might also cost millions.

And with the majority of businesses having bad days this pandemic, how can they pay a proper tax?

The government needs revenue and that is the role of PAGCOR.

[Vaculin]

If it's increasing by the hundreds every day, then obviously it is not a wise thing to do.

Let's look at the graph, ..




As of today, Philippines has over 20,000 cases of covid-19 infection already, but I don't think stopping the economic activity would solve that spread.
The government has already lifted the lock down and we are already in GCQ, they can's stop this virus, we just need to be responsible and business will operate as usual but with the new normal.

So disturbing to see those numbers increasing day by day but we cannot do anything since we don't have any vaccine available yet and government also cannot do nothing to open up the establishment just to bring back the economy alive again, They don't have funds so they let the people go to their respective work so for us we should responsible and always obey the new normal protocol so that we will be away from the disease as well we are not contributing for worse recession happening if worse case scenario will come and still no vaccine will be available by this year.

No, I think the government already expected the increase but they just open the country for business operation again as the economy will die if they will not allow business to operate again, there's always a risk but we have to face the risk in order for our economy to survive.

[serjent05]

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

I don't think it is safe to reopen land-based gaming due to the pandemic.  Just look at those front-liners that were well informed and well protected with gears and yet they got infected.  People from everywhere will flock in, even with the strict rule and implementation inside the casino, what about outside that Casino where social distancing is poorly observed.  There is a high chance for the transmission of virus even if proper guidelines and security measure is observed.

No, I think the government already expected the increase but they just open the country for business operation again as the economy will die if they will not allow business to operate again, there's always a risk but we have to face the risk in order for our economy to survive.

I highly agree.  the government allow it because of financial issue.

[Pamadar]

I think this is right time to Open Gambling Casinos because each country needs Income and gambling is one of the most profitable way for Governments.

I also Believe that Casino operator can manage to Make precautions for the Players inside casino.
They can Keep People safe and go home without Infection of Virus.

I missed Going to Casino and i will surely enjoy it now again.

I believe that Casinos, especially in the Philippines, should operate under strict guidelines, casinos in the Philippines are a big attraction for tourist, they have loyal clients and they are going to support these casinos if they see that they are implementing protocols, the government badly need revenue so they can sustain this pandemic.

Indeed since Casinos in the philippines are soon to be like Las Vegas that becomes a tourists attractions.

there are so many tourist around the world that comes to the Philippines just to enjoy gambling places and the generosity of the country.

[plvbob0070]

PAGCOR wants to reopen casinos later within this month or either next month to generate business revenue and employees can go back to work. For almost three months of the closure of land-based casinos, companies had no choice but to lay off 7,600 employees. Even Okada Casino will lay off 1,000 employees because of revenue losses.

Now to prevent more layoffs,  PAGCOR, and most business operators are preparing for the reopening, they will ensure that they will strictly implement the government's protocol to keep social distancing and the safety of employees and customers.

It may be a problem for other people because it will be risky to open casinos during the pandemic but it is said that 132,000 employees will benefit once they reopen casino operations. Let's just hope that once they will finally open, it won't cause more positive cases in the country.

Source:

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https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/

[sheenshane]

It may be a problem for other people because it will be risky to open casinos during the pandemic but it is said that 132,000 employees will benefit once they reopen casino operations. Let's just hope that once they will finally open, it won't cause more positive cases in the country.

It's quite risky to the people but there are millions of our fellow countrymen that have lost their jobs since pandemic has come. Now, we need to fight the possible recession, even though there's no unclear vaccine of the said virus but we need to continue to gain revenue in order to survive our economy.

That is "NEW NORMAL", they/we should adopt this now, they should follow on what pandemic protocol has been implemented and I think PAGCOR reopening is very crucial to us but we need to fight it for survival.

[Sanitough]

It may be a problem for other people because it will be risky to open casinos during the pandemic but it is said that 132,000 employees will benefit once they reopen casino operations. Let's just hope that once they will finally open, it won't cause more positive cases in the country.

It's quite risky to the people but there are millions of our fellow countrymen that have lost their jobs since pandemic has come. Now, we need to fight the possible recession, even though there's no unclear vaccine of the said virus but we need to continue to gain revenue in order to survive our economy.

That is "NEW NORMAL", they/we should adopt this now, they should follow on what pandemic protocol has been implemented and I think PAGCOR reopening is very crucial to us but we need to fight it for survival.

The government has to find a way to generate income, and this is a way to help them generate funds.
Philippines is not a rich country, a lot of people are just relying on the government's aid, and it's the duty of the government to fulfill that task, without funds they would not be able to do their task. We can't deny that big part of the government income are coming from gambling, in fact that is the reason they already open POGO.

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/5/1/POGO-operations-resume-community-quarantine.html

Gov't allows POGOs to partially reopen amid community quarantine

This news was posted last May 1, 2020, so probably they are fully open now.

[Twinkledoe]

It may be a problem for other people because it will be risky to open casinos during the pandemic but it is said that 132,000 employees will benefit once they reopen casino operations. Let's just hope that once they will finally open, it won't cause more positive cases in the country.

It's quite risky to the people but there are millions of our fellow countrymen that have lost their jobs since pandemic has come. Now, we need to fight the possible recession, even though there's no unclear vaccine of the said virus but we need to continue to gain revenue in order to survive our economy.

That is "NEW NORMAL", they/we should adopt this now, they should follow on what pandemic protocol has been implemented and I think PAGCOR reopening is very crucial to us but we need to fight it for survival.

The government has to find a way to generate income, and this is a way to help them generate funds.
Philippines is not a rich country, a lot of people are just relying on the government's aid, and it's the duty of the government to fulfill that task, without funds they would not be able to do their task. We can't deny that big part of the government income are coming from gambling, in fact that is the reason they already open POGO.

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/5/1/POGO-operations-resume-community-quarantine.html

Gov't allows POGOs to partially reopen amid community quarantine

This news was posted last May 1, 2020, so probably they are fully open now.

Now, it is up to the gamblers if they are willing to take the risk. They already know the possible consequences if they get in and mingle with other players. So basically, the risk is on both sides. But yes, slowly the government needs some sort of source of income to keep afloat. And gambling is one of the easiest sources of income for them.

[Yatsan]

It may be a problem for other people because it will be risky to open casinos during the pandemic but it is said that 132,000 employees will benefit once they reopen casino operations. Let's just hope that once they will finally open, it won't cause more positive cases in the country.

It's quite risky to the people but there are millions of our fellow countrymen that have lost their jobs since pandemic has come. Now, we need to fight the possible recession, even though there's no unclear vaccine of the said virus but we need to continue to gain revenue in order to survive our economy.

That is "NEW NORMAL", they/we should adopt this now, they should follow on what pandemic protocol has been implemented and I think PAGCOR reopening is very crucial to us but we need to fight it for survival.

I think it's not a good choice to re-open businesses that will trigger more people gathering and yes, a possible transmission of the virus. Economy going down is not good, people losing job is really sad, but death is certain and the worst! acquiring it may cause your life. Personally, I will choose people losing job and economy crisis over thousands of people that are going to die because of the virus.

Opening of casinos and other business is going to be a disaster...

[sheenshane]

It may be a problem for other people because it will be risky to open casinos during the pandemic but it is said that 132,000 employees will benefit once they reopen casino operations. Let's just hope that once they will finally open, it won't cause more positive cases in the country.

It's quite risky to the people but there are millions of our fellow countrymen that have lost their jobs since pandemic has come. Now, we need to fight the possible recession, even though there's no unclear vaccine of the said virus but we need to continue to gain revenue in order to survive our economy.

That is "NEW NORMAL", they/we should adopt this now, they should follow on what pandemic protocol has been implemented and I think PAGCOR reopening is very crucial to us but we need to fight it for survival.

I think it's not a good choice to re-open businesses that will trigger more people gathering and yes, a possible transmission of the virus. Economy going down is not good, people losing job is really sad, but death is certain and the worst! acquiring it may cause your life. Personally, I will choose people losing job and economy crisis over thousands of people that are going to die because of the virus.

Opening of casinos and other business is going to be a disaster...

That's why there's a new normal policy.
There's no cure yet but at least we can have a precautionary measure on it and we need to do these:

• Wearing facemask
• Observe social distancing
• Check body temperature
• Disinfectant/sanitizer every hour

We can't wait and depend on our government assistance, even though the virus has been not totally lifted but we need to do something that generates profit even there's a risk. We need to live and survive from the economic crisis and maybe the government also looking and find ways that people have job even the pandemic was still there.

[serjent05]

I think it's not a good choice to re-open businesses that will trigger more people gathering and yes, a possible transmission of the virus. Economy going down is not good, people losing job is really sad, but death is certain and the worst! acquiring it may cause your life. Personally, I will choose people losing job and economy crisis over thousands of people that are going to die because of the virus.

Opening of casinos and other business is going to be a disaster...

This is quite a dilemma between people dying of viruses and people dying of starvation.  Which one is the lesser evil?  Death is certain for everyone, if it is not your time yet, you won't die.  Even though I am against the idea of re-opening of land-based casinos, but considering the employees and their family, rather than letting these people die of starvation, I am swayed to agree for the reopening of these establishments with a certain condition of a very tight protocol to prevent the virus from spreading.

We can't wait and depend on our government assistance, even though the virus has been not totally lifted but we need to do something that generates profit even there's a risk. We need to live and survive from the economic crisis and maybe the government also looking and find ways that people have job even the pandemic was still there.

Indeed, we can't wait for the failed government assistance.

[harizen]

We can't wait and depend on our government assistance, even though the virus has been not totally lifted but we need to do something that generates profit even there's a risk. We need to live and survive from the economic crisis and maybe the government also looking and find ways that people have job even the pandemic was still there.

Agree. We can't just wait for the vaccine to be made. It might be easy for other people to say that the re-opening of physical casinos shouldn't be considered for now but PH can't afford to wait for that long before opening such business.

The economic downfall will bring more negative effects in a country in the long-run compared to a pandemic virus that can actually be avoided* as long as strict safety measures will follow.

PAGCOR is the largest contributor of revenue to the PH government, even much larger compare to BIR and BOC. That's how important the re-opening of casinos under them. Not just it will help their employees but the government needs more funds to battle the pandemic virus and not just the majority of will be put on the family's assistance for a long period. We can't just rely on donations and LGU's.

[Sanitough]

I think it's not a good choice to re-open businesses that will trigger more people gathering and yes, a possible transmission of the virus. Economy going down is not good, people losing job is really sad, but death is certain and the worst! acquiring it may cause your life. Personally, I will choose people losing job and economy crisis over thousands of people that are going to die because of the virus.

Opening of casinos and other business is going to be a disaster...

This is quite a dilemma between people dying of viruses and people dying of starvation.  Which one is the lesser evil?  Death is certain for everyone, if it is not your time yet, you won't die.  Even though I am against the idea of re-opening of land-based casinos, but considering the employees and their family, rather than letting these people die of starvation, I am swayed to agree for the reopening of these establishments with a certain condition of a very tight protocol to prevent the virus from spreading.

The government will choose to open businesses like casino although there's a risk because of the reason mentioned above.
It's our responsibility to ensure ourselves that we followed the safety measures, so we can continue to work and we have money to buy food to feed our family, most of us are just average earners or those who totally rely on our job, without our job we can't feed ourselves which will make us unhealthy and prone to virus infection.

Indeed, we can't wait for the failed government assistance.

We can't wait and depend on our government assistance, even though the virus has been not totally lifted but we need to do something that generates profit even there's a risk. We need to live and survive from the economic crisis and maybe the government also looking and find ways that people have job even the pandemic was still there.

Government assistance implementation is worst in the Philippines, there's a lot of politics involve that would make the process take longer, people can't rely on that, and it's not really a significant amount that will help us survive for even at least a month or two.  

[MCobian]

The Philippines has been doing quarantine for too long, and as a result the Philippines economy has gotten worse. Because citizens can't
work and some businesses must be closed. Therefore, it's best to give permission reopen land based casinos by the Philippine government,
with the provision of running the COVID19 protocol, of course. And not only land-based casinos are given permission to open back, but all
the shops, offices, factories, sports and so on. That way the economy can recover.

[freedomgo]

The Philippines has been doing quarantine for too long, and as a result the Philippines economy has gotten worse. Because citizens can't
work and some businesses must be closed. Therefore, it's best to give permission reopen land based casinos by the Philippine government,
with the provision of running the COVID19 protocol, of course. And not only land-based casinos are given permission to open back, but all
the shops, offices, factories, sports and so on. That way the economy can recover.

Exactly, because it would be unfair for the other especially the small business to remain close while casino are open which in fact they are prone to spreading the virus due to the activity inside. It's not open yet and it doesn't mean if they are open they will remain open forever, it's still subject for evaluation if they have complied with the rules and guidelines pertaining to the covid-19 protocol.

[Lanatsa]

The Philippines has been doing quarantine for too long, and as a result the Philippines economy has gotten worse. Because citizens can't
work and some businesses must be closed. Therefore, it's best to give permission reopen land based casinos by the Philippine government,
with the provision of running the COVID19 protocol, of course. And not only land-based casinos are given permission to open back, but all
the shops, offices, factories, sports and so on. That way the economy can recover.

Exactly, because it would be unfair for the other especially the small business to remain close while casino are open which in fact they are prone to spreading the virus due to the activity inside. It's not open yet and it doesn't mean if they are open they will remain open forever, it's still subject for evaluation if they have complied with the rules and guidelines pertaining to the covid-19 protocol.

For essential type of business then it considerable but for others which arent really that needed or necessary then its just right for them to be still in closed state

but i do agree that everything should really be open up.Economy wont really able to recover if only a few establishments or sectors would be opened but everything would really be indeed

goes to a vey strict compliance of new set of rules on this pandemic situation.For now the situation worldwide is becoming worst and i doubt that they would be easily

re-opening everything.

[panganib999]

After 2 months of strict quarantine in the Philippines, PAGCOR (Philippines Amusement and Gaming Corporation) submitted an approval to resume land-based gaming to IATF (Inter-Agency Task Force). Last month they submitted the request including the proposed safety guidelines to follow by the operators.

Last March when the Philippines started its ECQ (Enhanced Community Quarantine) where most businesses have closed, and only essential businesses remain. While the start of June, they lifted the lockdown to GCQ (General Community Quarantine) were workers and employees can go back to work and the opening of some businesses. For the whole 2 months of ECQ, most businesses have no income, same with casinos. Until now, casinos are closed and gambling is still banned in the country to avoid crowded places.

Now, PAGCOR revealed that they submitted a request to resume the operations of land-based casinos. They included safety protocols such as;
-wearing of face masks
-strict compliance of social distancing
-limiting the capacity of not more than 50% to both table games and EGMs
-preventing standing bettors or loitering in the gaming areas.  

The possible date for re-opening is June 16 when GCQ restrictions come under further review.

Some land-based casinos have already shown their preparations for the possible reopening of casinos. Safety measures include regular disinfecting of equipment, thermal scanning, sanitation mats, and more. Big casinos are being monitored, waiting if they are planning to re-open soon.

This is good news for gamblers who badly want to gamble if they allowed the reopening of casinos. But knowing the correct situation, our country has already almost 19,000 positive cases, they might reject this request. And if ever they will reopen land-based casinos, perhaps only high-class people can gamble because lower-class gamblers don't gamble in a big casino. Personally, I don't know if they will approve this request or not because unlike the gamblers, the public will probably don't want to reopen casinos.

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

Source:

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https://pokercastasia.com/2020/06/02/pagcor-waiting-for-approval-from-iatf-for-covid19-to-resume-land-base-operations/

Update as of now that the whole Metropolitan Manila or the National Capital Region (NCR) have been put from MECQ (Modified Enhanced Community Quarantine) down to the GCQ (General Community Quarantine) that is decided by the president and the IATF, the total number of covid-19 confirmed cases in the whole Philippines have reached and surpassed the 24,000 mark which is really alarming for the past few days after the backlogs test results from the past months have already been released.

This comes into my mind that letting people get outside make them to get into excitement because the crowd seems to be going out in a massive number knowing the pandemic is still on makes the cases to rise up to even higher number of confirmed cases.

How much more if the land based opening of operating the casinos would bring once the request of PAGCOR have been granted? Even though there were precautionary measures that will be implemented, still prevention will be better than cure since there is still no presence of vaccine to cure this pandemic. But if it is in need or a call for the re-opening of the economy that is intended for the essence of rising up the economic state of the Philippines, then it would be fine with me as long as there will be strict restrictions that will be implemented all the time.

[Vaculin]

then it would be fine with me as long as there will be strict restrictions that will be implemented all the time.

That's the answer, we can't stop our economy because there's a virus, we will all die if instead of facing it, we will just hide as we are all afraid.
Government are doing their best to balance the safety of the people and the economy, the only support we can give is just to be socially responsible.

[Genemind]

I saw this from a social media post from one of my friend who works in Casino Filipino.  The tentative date casinos will open will be on June 16, depending if GCQ will be lifted or not. I'll update this post once I receive more updates.

So, here are the guidelines released by Casino Filipino for those who will enter the casino.

[FlightyPouch]

The Philippines has been doing quarantine for too long, and as a result the Philippines economy has gotten worse. Because citizens can't
work and some businesses must be closed. Therefore, it's best to give permission reopen land based casinos by the Philippine government,
with the provision of running the COVID19 protocol, of course. And not only land-based casinos are given permission to open back, but all
the shops, offices, factories, sports and so on. That way the economy can recover.

I do agree that this will happen and it would also help the crumbling economy. I do think that the situation is still not that great, for it is still risky but we should also consider those people struggling in this pandemic. Some shops are also functioning right now and I guess they are just slowly opening the country to those normal days. They can't just open it hastily though since there are still cases of Covid-19 here in our country.

[Vaculin]

That's a good news especially for the gamblers who are regular in going into a casino, but for me, I have to be honest, I can't concentrate or have fun when I know I'm at risk of getting infected in a close building, and wearing face mask makes me uncomfortable.

I saw this from a social media post from one of my friend who works in Casino Filipino.  The tentative date casinos will open will be on June 16, depending if GCQ will be lifted or not. I'll update this post once I receive more updates.

So, here are the guidelines released by Casino Filipino for those who will enter the casino.

[Sanitough]

Enough for the security measures and it's possible breach, we have discuss it a lot already.

How about this statement from the PAGCOR chairperson and chief executive officer Andrea Domingo?

Gambling to help economic future of PH post-coronavirus

Domingo said in an online gambling conference on Monday, June 8, that the gaming industry employs about 132,000 people and boosts other businesses like restaurants, hotels, malls in integrated resorts, services, transportation, and real estate. These industries are among the hardest hit by the strict lockdown and physical distancing guidelines.

It has also given P2.5 billion to the Office of the President (OP) to help the Department of Health purchase personal protective equipment and medical supplies, and another P12 billion for the OP's socio-civic projects fund.

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

[iTradeChips]

The Philippines has been doing quarantine for too long, and as a result the Philippines economy has gotten worse. Because citizens can't
work and some businesses must be closed. Therefore, it's best to give permission reopen land based casinos by the Philippine government,
with the provision of running the COVID19 protocol, of course. And not only land-based casinos are given permission to open back, but all
the shops, offices, factories, sports and so on. That way the economy can recover.

Exactly, because it would be unfair for the other especially the small business to remain close while casino are open which in fact they are prone to spreading the virus due to the activity inside. It's not open yet and it doesn't mean if they are open they will remain open forever, it's still subject for evaluation if they have complied with the rules and guidelines pertaining to the covid-19 protocol.

For essential type of business then it considerable but for others which arent really that needed or necessary then its just right for them to be still in closed state

but i do agree that everything should really be open up.Economy wont really able to recover if only a few establishments or sectors would be opened but everything would really be indeed

goes to a vey strict compliance of new set of rules on this pandemic situation.For now the situation worldwide is becoming worst and i doubt that they would be easily

re-opening everything.

The government already reported that the number of unemployed right now due to the pandemic is more than 7 million people. That really is affecting the economy right now and no matter how and whatever means the government is trying to calculate, it will be a loss to our economy. So they are really pressured to declare an MGCQ by monday. And sadly the masses wanted the means to go back to work whatever it takes even at the risk of getting sick without a vaccine. Let's just hope that whatever the decision on Monday,that would help us balance things to better the health and at the same time to be able to get back on track with the economy.

[Lanatsa]

The Philippines has been doing quarantine for too long, and as a result the Philippines economy has gotten worse. Because citizens can't
work and some businesses must be closed. Therefore, it's best to give permission reopen land based casinos by the Philippine government,
with the provision of running the COVID19 protocol, of course. And not only land-based casinos are given permission to open back, but all
the shops, offices, factories, sports and so on. That way the economy can recover.

Exactly, because it would be unfair for the other especially the small business to remain close while casino are open which in fact they are prone to spreading the virus due to the activity inside. It's not open yet and it doesn't mean if they are open they will remain open forever, it's still subject for evaluation if they have complied with the rules and guidelines pertaining to the covid-19 protocol.

For essential type of business then it considerable but for others which arent really that needed or necessary then its just right for them to be still in closed state

but i do agree that everything should really be open up.Economy wont really able to recover if only a few establishments or sectors would be opened but everything would really be indeed

goes to a vey strict compliance of new set of rules on this pandemic situation.For now the situation worldwide is becoming worst and i doubt that they would be easily

re-opening everything.

The government already reported that the number of unemployed right now due to the pandemic is more than 7 million people. That really is affecting the economy right now and no matter how and whatever means the government is trying to calculate, it will be a loss to our economy. So they are really pressured to declare an MGCQ by monday. And sadly the masses wanted the means to go back to work whatever it takes even at the risk of getting sick without a vaccine. Let's just hope that whatever the decision on Monday,that would help us balance things to better the health and at the same time to be able to get back on track with the economy.

You are right! Government do always took the blame in every decision that they had made without even think for its citizens that it would really be a sustainable one if it would last even more longer.

Several countries had already opened or lift up their quarantine mode and do continue into their normal lives but with having that new health protocol to be followed.Yes, its risky but people will

surely choose that this is way more better than to stay on home and starve themselves to death thats why i cant really blame up people whom do force to have work just for this kind of reason.

[mirakal]

You are right! Government do always took the blame in every decision that they had made without even think for its citizens that it would really be a sustainable one if it would last even more longer.

Several countries had already opened or lift up their quarantine mode and do continue into their normal lives but with having that new health protocol to be followed.Yes, its risky but people will

surely choose that this is way more better than to stay on home and starve themselves to death thats why i cant really blame up people whom do force to have work just for this kind of reason.

If the government will listen to the majority, they will ease the restriction and let people work since majority of the Filipinos belongs to the average and poor living, that's the reality we can't deny. The problem is if we go back to the ECQ, people will starve and there will be rallies if the government can't provide their basic needs and that will create chaos which would later give worst effect to our peace and order and that will kill our economy.

Both decision to ease the restriction and to go back to a strict measures have negative impact to us, but the government has to choose a lesser evil and that is opening businesses so people can get back their job again.

[Twinkledoe]

You are right! Government do always took the blame in every decision that they had made without even think for its citizens that it would really be a sustainable one if it would last even more longer.

Several countries had already opened or lift up their quarantine mode and do continue into their normal lives but with having that new health protocol to be followed.Yes, its risky but people will

surely choose that this is way more better than to stay on home and starve themselves to death thats why i cant really blame up people whom do force to have work just for this kind of reason.

If the government will listen to the majority, they will ease the restriction and let people work since majority of the Filipinos belongs to the average and poor living, that's the reality we can't deny. The problem is if we go back to the ECQ, people will starve and there will be rallies if the government can't provide their basic needs and that will create chaos which would later give worst effect to our peace and order and that will kill our economy.

Both decision to ease the restriction and to go back to a strict measures have negative impact to us, but the government has to choose a lesser evil and that is opening businesses so people can get back their job again.

I think they should ease the restriction and let other businesses open as the government can't feed all its people. Not all people can avail of their govt benefits and so they will starve to death if they will not find a way how to earn their own money. And if everyone will wait for the govt's aid, I don't think they will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[arwin100]

You are right! Government do always took the blame in every decision that they had made without even think for its citizens that it would really be a sustainable one if it would last even more longer.

Several countries had already opened or lift up their quarantine mode and do continue into their normal lives but with having that new health protocol to be followed.Yes, its risky but people will

surely choose that this is way more better than to stay on home and starve themselves to death thats why i cant really blame up people whom do force to have work just for this kind of reason.

Both decision to ease the restriction and to go back to a strict measures have negative impact to us, but the government has to choose a lesser evil and that is opening businesses so people can get back their job again.

You have a point with that but unfortunately not all things will be covered nor will be taken care off since there are establishments are hard to do certain implementation of New normal set up and unlike POGO's where for sure they can paddle up a little bit to be a fire starter on bringing back the economy to life although they are not much big tax payers but still they are a good start since they can help the government on finances and for sure precautionary measures has been implemented since its easy for them to set the things up.

and I see the other type of industry is now starting up right now so I think this is a fair studied by the government and the thing is we should trust the government since for sure they know what's best to their citizen.

[Lanatsa]

You are right! Government do always took the blame in every decision that they had made without even think for its citizens that it would really be a sustainable one if it would last even more longer.

Several countries had already opened or lift up their quarantine mode and do continue into their normal lives but with having that new health protocol to be followed.Yes, its risky but people will

surely choose that this is way more better than to stay on home and starve themselves to death thats why i cant really blame up people whom do force to have work just for this kind of reason.

Both decision to ease the restriction and to go back to a strict measures have negative impact to us, but the government has to choose a lesser evil and that is opening businesses so people can get back their job again.

You have a point with that but unfortunately not all things will be covered nor will be taken care off since there are establishments are hard to do certain implementation of New normal set up and unlike POGO's where for sure they can paddle up a little bit to be a fire starter on bringing back the economy to life although they are not much big tax payers but still they are a good start since they can help the government on finances and for sure precautionary measures has been implemented since its easy for them to set the things up.

and I see the other type of industry is now starting up right now so I think this is a fair studied by the government and the thing is we should trust the government since for sure they know what's best to their citizen.

It wont really be that sufficient if we do talk only with POGO specially the government had implemented that continuous aid into those poor people which means if other business wont

open their doors then it wont really be that sustainable or would really be hard.So thats why they do come up into that decision on opening or approving for business to run again

because if they  do continually able to hold it up then it will surely slapped it down hard when it comes to economy topic.

[robelneo]

I think they should ease the restriction and let other businesses open as the government can't feed all its people. Not all people can avail of their govt benefits and so they will starve to death if they will not find a way how to earn their own money. And if everyone will wait for the govt's aid, I don't think they will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Although the curve is not yet flattening they have opened some industries to operate, some restaurants, malls, and works are now opened only the transportation is not like bus and jeepneys which are the popular mode of transportation, people now will have to use a bicycle or walk to get into their work, Pagcor I believe can reopen they have slots there it can be reopened but with card games, they must follow strict protocols and rearrange the table arrangement so they can follow the right protoocols.

[Debonaire217]

Although the curve is not yet flattening they have opened some industries to operate, some restaurants, malls, and works are now opened only the transportation is not like bus and jeepneys which are the popular mode of transportation, people now will have to use a bicycle or walk to get into their work, Pagcor I believe can reopen they have slots there it can be reopened but with card games, they must follow strict protocols and rearrange the table arrangement so they can follow the right protoocols.

Perhaps, they might prioritize slot machines and games which are not requiring any interaction from gamblers, as I think it is crucial to allow card games such as poker because exchanging cards will be the way to spread the virus, but if they are only allowing slot machines and games which aren't allowing interaction from gamblers, they can easily sanitize the machine after a person is done using it.

I just can't think of reasons why the system of transportation in the country isn't good, and they prioritize PAGCOR and the opening of casinos. We're not Vegas, and gambling casinos aren't our main means of helping our economy.

[Sanitough]

I just can't think of reasons why the system of transportation in the country isn't good, and they prioritize PAGCOR and the opening of casinos. We're not Vegas, and gambling casinos aren't our main means of helping our economy.

PAGCOR may not be the main means but it's a big contributor to the income of the government, as I have posted in the previous page.

https://www.rappler.com/business/263388-pagcor-says-gambling-to-help-economic-future-philippines-post-coronavirus

here are the figures.

Pagcor has contributed P12 billion in cash dividends to the National Treasury to fund the coronavirus fight. (READ: PSC gets 90% fund cut from Pagcor in April)

It has also given P2.5 billion to the Office of the President (OP) to help the Department of Health purchase personal protective equipment and medical supplies, and another P12 billion for the OP's socio-civic projects fund.

If our country is so concern about ABSCBN who does not even pay at least 1 billions pesos income tax in a yearly basis, then we should be looking more into PAGCOR as they are more than a billion of income and directly forwarded to the pocket of the government.

[noormcs5]

You are right! Government do always took the blame in every decision that they had made without even think for its citizens that it would really be a sustainable one if it would last even more longer.

Several countries had already opened or lift up their quarantine mode and do continue into their normal lives but with having that new health protocol to be followed.Yes, its risky but people will

surely choose that this is way more better than to stay on home and starve themselves to death thats why i cant really blame up people whom do force to have work just for this kind of reason.

If the government will listen to the majority, they will ease the restriction and let people work since majority of the Filipinos belongs to the average and poor living, that's the reality we can't deny. The problem is if we go back to the ECQ, people will starve and there will be rallies if the government can't provide their basic needs and that will create chaos which would later give worst effect to our peace and order and that will kill our economy.

Both decision to ease the restriction and to go back to a strict measures have negative impact to us, but the government has to choose a lesser evil and that is opening businesses so people can get back their job again.

I think they should ease the restriction and let other businesses open as the government can't feed all its people. Not all people can avail of their govt benefits and so they will starve to death if they will not find a way how to earn their own money. And if everyone will wait for the govt's aid, I don't think they will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Its true that government cannot feed everyone but they should avoid opening casinos and places where public gathering is expected. They should implement smart lock down where by only those places should be allowed to open where there are less public presence expected.

[plvbob0070]

I think they should ease the restriction and let other businesses open as the government can't feed all its people. Not all people can avail of their govt benefits and so they will starve to death if they will not find a way how to earn their own money. And if everyone will wait for the govt's aid, I don't think they will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Although the curve is not yet flattening they have opened some industries to operate, some restaurants, malls, and works are now opened only the transportation is not like bus and jeepneys which are the popular mode of transportation, people now will have to use a bicycle or walk to get into their work, Pagcor I believe can reopen they have slots there it can be reopened but with card games, they must follow strict protocols and rearrange the table arrangement so they can follow the right protoocols.

That's one of the major problems most workers are facing, even if they want to go back to work, not all employers are providing them transportation services. And I can see how hard it is for the majority of workers to travel back and forth because mist of them don't have private cars, and bikes are not accessible for those who work far from their homes. Only limited public transportations are available, and they are also limiting passengers so it's difficult for them to go back to work.

As for land-based casinos, they can reopen with strict protocol but the thing is if cases would remain increasing, there's a chance that we'll go back to ECQ, and casinos won't be able to reopen. Let's just hope that new positive cases would decrease so we can start going back living in (new) normal lives.

[Russlenat]

I think they should ease the restriction and let other businesses open as the government can't feed all its people. Not all people can avail of their govt benefits and so they will starve to death if they will not find a way how to earn their own money. And if everyone will wait for the govt's aid, I don't think they will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Although the curve is not yet flattening they have opened some industries to operate, some restaurants, malls, and works are now opened only the transportation is not like bus and jeepneys which are the popular mode of transportation, people now will have to use a bicycle or walk to get into their work, Pagcor I believe can reopen they have slots there it can be reopened but with card games, they must follow strict protocols and rearrange the table arrangement so they can follow the right protoocols.

That's one of the major problems most workers are facing, even if they want to go back to work, not all employers are providing them transportation services. And I can see how hard it is for the majority of workers to travel back and forth because mist of them don't have private cars, and bikes are not accessible for those who work far from their homes. Only limited public transportations are available, and they are also limiting passengers so it's difficult for them to go back to work.

It depends on the status of the company, if it's a small company, they can't afford to give transportation for their employees, but for big companies, maybe they can provide that but there's only few who can do that, I think it's time that the government will give their support to private businesses so they can go back to their operation effectively. Sorry, I can't feel those who have struggled to work due to lack of transportation as I have retired being an employee a long time ago.

As for land-based casinos, they can reopen with strict protocol but the thing is if cases would remain increasing, there's a chance that we'll go back to ECQ, and casinos won't be able to reopen. Let's just hope that new positive cases would decrease so we can start going back living in (new) normal lives.

I expect the cases will rise but I don't expect they will close again the casino as it could possibly be applicable to other kind of businesses that could potentially put people at risk even if there is protocol in place as there are people who will violate as expected.

[arwin100]

You are right! Government do always took the blame in every decision that they had made without even think for its citizens that it would really be a sustainable one if it would last even more longer.

Several countries had already opened or lift up their quarantine mode and do continue into their normal lives but with having that new health protocol to be followed.Yes, its risky but people will

surely choose that this is way more better than to stay on home and starve themselves to death thats why i cant really blame up people whom do force to have work just for this kind of reason.

Both decision to ease the restriction and to go back to a strict measures have negative impact to us, but the government has to choose a lesser evil and that is opening businesses so people can get back their job again.

You have a point with that but unfortunately not all things will be covered nor will be taken care off since there are establishments are hard to do certain implementation of New normal set up and unlike POGO's where for sure they can paddle up a little bit to be a fire starter on bringing back the economy to life although they are not much big tax payers but still they are a good start since they can help the government on finances and for sure precautionary measures has been implemented since its easy for them to set the things up.

and I see the other type of industry is now starting up right now so I think this is a fair studied by the government and the thing is we should trust the government since for sure they know what's best to their citizen.

It wont really be that sufficient if we do talk only with POGO specially the government had implemented that continuous aid into those poor people which means if other business wont

open their doors then it wont really be that sustainable or would really be hard.So thats why they do come up into that decision on opening or approving for business to run again

because if they  do continually able to hold it up then it will surely slapped it down hard when it comes to economy topic.

Actually yes since there are so many controversy if we talk about POGO since this is a hot topic but I see the manufacturing and other essential business opening up but the problem is the transportation where its a big challenge for the workers to walk up just to come to their respected jobs maybe the manning agency will take a look on this so that everyone will not struggle. But as we are in POGO discussion well maybe the least we can do is to trust the government since for sure they know on what they are doing if there's implementation or anything.

[Lanatsa]

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Both decision to ease the restriction and to go back to a strict measures have negative impact to us, but the government has to choose a lesser evil and that is opening businesses so people can get back their job again.

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Actually yes since there are so many controversy if we talk about POGO since this is a hot topic but I see the manufacturing and other essential business opening up but the problem is the transportation where its a big challenge for the workers to walk up just to come to their respected jobs maybe the manning agency will take a look on this so that everyone will not struggle. But as we are in POGO discussion well maybe the least we can do is to trust the government since for sure they know on what they are doing if there's implementation or anything.

Everything would really be depending on the plan and as a citizen then you wont really have any choice but to obey on what they had implemented since they are

the ones in the position then they are capable on doing such changes and manage up things.You got actually the point about that transportation matters where its really hard

for workers to do daily commute if thats always been the case. There are vehicles which are really intended for them but those arent enough if we do consider the number

of workers.

[Janation]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back in their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

[fiulpro]

The government here have also included a lot of rules like that , there are police cars roaming around everywhere and warning people , but guess what ?
only around 5% people does follow the rules .
At the same time , they even look at the people wearing masks very weirdly....I do think for the time being it is important for them to follow the rules for a while . It is in no way going to help anyone if it goes on .
The Premature opening of the Casinos will actually increase the cases , which would cause this whole thing to actually go on for more time and therefore the Quarantine will be extended and the business will be put on a halt.

Plus the Virus is mutating if we do follow the news bulletin , which means we might be in for a worse case scenario.

[Genemind]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back to their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

This will indeed help the economy as it will increase the employment rate. A huge number of casino employees had been laid off, and some are on force leave since the pandemic, even with lesser number of employees that will return to work, this is a huge help not just for the mass but also to the economy since casinos can resume their operation and government will have more source of taxes.

Let's just hope the implementation of health guidelines for casino visitors will be strictly implemented to avoid having more cases on their end.

[Sanitough]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back to their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

This will indeed help the economy as it will increase the employment rate. A huge number of casino employees had been laid off, and some are on force leave since the pandemic, even with lesser number of employees that will return to work, this is a huge help not just for the mass but also to the economy since casinos can resume their operation and government will have more source of taxes.

Let's just hope the implementation of health guidelines for casino visitors will be strictly implemented to avoid having more cases on their end.

Not only for the employees but mostly on the government side as when it creates revenue, they can use the funds to combat the pandemic.
Employees of casinos may earn millions of pesos combine per year but PAGCOR is making billions in a yearly basis, and that is a big contribution for our economy.

If we will always look at the risk,we can never survive as we need money to combat the pandemic and we can't afford to borrow money again which will only result to burden of our taxpayer since we don't know when this pandemic is over.

[peter0425]

After 2 months of strict quarantine in the Philippines, PAGCOR (Philippines Amusement and Gaming Corporation) submitted an approval to resume land-based gaming to IATF (Inter-Agency Task Force). Last month they submitted the request including the proposed safety guidelines to follow by the operators.

Last March when the Philippines started its ECQ (Enhanced Community Quarantine) where most businesses have closed, and only essential businesses remain. While the start of June, they lifted the lockdown to GCQ (General Community Quarantine) were workers and employees can go back to work and the opening of some businesses. For the whole 2 months of ECQ, most businesses have no income, same with casinos. Until now, casinos are closed and gambling is still banned in the country to avoid crowded places.

Now, PAGCOR revealed that they submitted a request to resume the operations of land-based casinos. They included safety protocols such as;
-wearing of face masks
-strict compliance of social distancing
-limiting the capacity of not more than 50% to both table games and EGMs
-preventing standing bettors or loitering in the gaming areas.  

The possible date for re-opening is June 16 when GCQ restrictions come under further review.

Some land-based casinos have already shown their preparations for the possible reopening of casinos. Safety measures include regular disinfecting of equipment, thermal scanning, sanitation mats, and more. Big casinos are being monitored, waiting if they are planning to re-open soon.

This is good news for gamblers who badly want to gamble if they allowed the reopening of casinos. But knowing the correct situation, our country has already almost 19,000 positive cases, they might reject this request. And if ever they will reopen land-based casinos, perhaps only high-class people can gamble because lower-class gamblers don't gamble in a big casino. Personally, I don't know if they will approve this request or not because unlike the gamblers, the public will probably don't want to reopen casinos.

Do you think it's safe to reopen land-based gaming knowing that the cases are still increasing by hundreds every day?

Source:

Code:

https://pokercastasia.com/2020/06/02/pagcor-waiting-for-approval-from-iatf-for-covid19-to-resume-land-base-operations/

well following Las Vegas and UK opening their Casinos ,i think at least Philippines will also start their gambling operation again because of the Big financial problem like now that all of the people are relying in government for Help and support.

also i am sure that many big time gamblers now are longing to Bet again and satisfy their Addiction in betting.

[Golftech]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back in their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

As long that they follow the protocols to avoid spreading the virus.

If they will work according to how WHO/DOH procedures, it's possible to reopen and gain some help from this business.
We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

[Casdinyard]

Not only for the employees but mostly on the government side as when it creates revenue, they can use the funds to combat the pandemic.
Employees of casinos may earn millions of pesos combine per year but PAGCOR is making billions in a yearly basis, and that is a big contribution for our economy.

If we will always look at the risk,we can never survive as we need money to combat the pandemic and we can't afford to borrow money again which will only result to burden of our taxpayer since we don't know when this pandemic is over.

You are right in here. However, there are still issues that resides behind the darkness of PAGCOR. The POGOs that still haven't paid taxes. Yes, we need money to both survive and use it for the research or for the maintenance of the pandemic, more specifically on health factors and frontliners' salaries. Yet, recently (and even as of now) PAGCOR investigates POGOs (mostly online platforms and employees are Chinese) with why their taxes are still pending. If they would focus on finishing recent problems first with their taxes, maybe they can use it for the pandemic and the people whom are trying to flatten the curve. Then if they can't comply nor pay their taxes as early as possible, they mustn't be operating now.

However, it is not a good idea to open a Land-based casino. The cases are still rising, yet the ones whom are mostly negatively affected are those whom are at the low class of society, and those whom can play casinos can live because they can afford hospital bills and preventive measures. But still the issue here is different, pandemic killed almost everyone in Italy, yet here we are, the Philippines, thinking of playing casinos amid the crisis.

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well following Las Vegas and UK opening their Casinos ,i think at least Philippines will also start their gambling operation again because of the Big financial problem like now that all of the people are relying in government for Help and support.
also i am sure that many big time gamblers now are longing to Bet again and satisfy their Addiction in betting.

Well, LasVegas and UK also has huge number of cases and still rising, and how did opening their gambling operations help them eradicate it? Nothing. It only serves and helps the satisfaction of the riches while those poor were suffering.

As long that they follow the protocols to avoid spreading the virus.

If they will work according to how WHO/DOH procedures, it's possible to reopen and gain some help from this business.
We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

One reason why (even protocols are being followed) is that many Filipinos are asymptomatic. Meaning that despite how they feel good right now, sooner even on their casino games, they will and can inhale the virus and weeks before the symptoms hits. There are no assurance whether someone or something hasn't have any virus.

[Sanitough]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back in their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

As long that they follow the protocols to avoid spreading the virus.

If they will work according to how WHO/DOH procedures, it's possible to reopen and gain some help from this business.
We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

That's correct, therefore they need to earn from their operations and private operations to fund all the financial needs.

Why people are only looking at the bad side, which is when they resume the virus will spread, but not looking at the other side which would solve the problem in our economy. What we are experiencing now is the pandemic which is a health issue but it has a big effect on our economy that is why people will financially struggle especially those minimum wage earners who only rely on their daily income.

[batang_bitcoin]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back in their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

Most countries are in this scenario. If there's no more blood money that runs through the economy, they have to operate back to give jobs again to their employees and also at the same time to contribute again to economy. We have to accept the new normal and its protocols, everything is about to resume and we have to take care of ourselves especially those gamblers that will go back to their routine of visiting the physical casinos that will be allowed to reoperate.

[carlfebz2]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back in their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

As long that they follow the protocols to avoid spreading the virus.

If they will work according to how WHO/DOH procedures, it's possible to reopen and gain some help from this business.
We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

That's correct, therefore they need to earn from their operations and private operations to fund all the financial needs.

Why people are only looking at the bad side, which is when they resume the virus will spread, but not looking at the other side which would solve the problem in our economy. What we are experiencing now is the pandemic which is a health issue but it has a big effect on our economy that is why people will financially struggle especially those minimum wage earners who only rely on their daily income.

People would always look out for the bad side without even considering the other part or trying to understand on what government is trying to achieve.

They can support entirely if there were no tax being generated thats why their option is to let those businesses open in spite of the risk that we are facing now.

economy wont survive if this one would take too long.We should understand they are trying to save up lives but all of us wont sustain if we dont have income and also generate tax for the government.

Vaccine is all we need for us to go back to normal.

[chaser15]

You are right in here. However, there are still issues that resides behind the darkness of PAGCOR. The POGOs that still haven't paid taxes. Yes, we need money to both survive and use it for the research or for the maintenance of the pandemic, more specifically on health factors and frontliners' salaries. Yet, recently (and even as of now) PAGCOR investigates POGOs (mostly online platforms and employees are Chinese) with why their taxes are still pending. If they would focus on finishing recent problems first with their taxes, maybe they can use it for the pandemic and the people whom are trying to flatten the curve. Then if they can't comply nor pay their taxes as early as possible, they mustn't be operating now.

I don't want to talk about politics since after all that you say is just what you read on the news.

Those POGO's that don't pay their taxes are those tagged as illegitimate POGOs. Like in any other business, there are good and bad. Some owners are lazy to work on their tax pending and the result, the penalty increase year by year. In general, there are lots of POGOS that complying with the law compared to those shitty ones. My brother is working in a POGO industry so I'm aware of their industry as I also employed there before.

And authorities are doing their best to track down these POGOs and for the record some already comply with the law even before the pandemic hits hard the country.

[Genemind]

You are right in here. However, there are still issues that resides behind the darkness of PAGCOR. The POGOs that still haven't paid taxes. Yes, we need money to both survive and use it for the research or for the maintenance of the pandemic, more specifically on health factors and frontliners' salaries. Yet, recently (and even as of now) PAGCOR investigates POGOs (mostly online platforms and employees are Chinese) with why their taxes are still pending. If they would focus on finishing recent problems first with their taxes, maybe they can use it for the pandemic and the people whom are trying to flatten the curve. Then if they can't comply nor pay their taxes as early as possible, they mustn't be operating now.

I don't want to talk about politics since after all that you say is just what you read on the news.

Those POGO's that don't pay their taxes are those tagged as illegitimate POGOs. Like in any other business, there are good and bad. Some owners are lazy to work on their tax pending and the result, the penalty increase year by year. In general, there are lots of POGOS that complying with the law compared to those shitty ones. My brother is working in a POGO industry so I'm aware of their industry as I also employed there before.

And authorities are doing their best to track down these POGOs and for the record some already comply with the law even before the pandemic hits hard the country.

This is a fact, however, we cannot also remove that people and even the news generalize POGO so those who are diligently paying their taxes are affected. The government might as well focus on those who are operating illegally. I also have read an article that the number of crime related to gambling increased since China started their gambling operation here in Philippines and most of the crime commited is kidnapping.

[acroman08]

This is a fact, however, we cannot also remove that people and even the news generalize POGO so those who are diligently paying their taxes are affected.

this is true, but people generalizing it is due to media always only want to show one side of the story. the saddest part is some people doesn't even know what POGO is and just going with the flow and hating POGO without knowing anything about it.

The government might as well focus on those who are operating illegally.

they are, there are just not enough coverage of it in the media. which I think is a Good Idea to cover the government's operation against illegal POGO operators.

I also have read an article that the number of crime related to gambling increased since China started their gambling operation here in Philippines and most of the crime commited is kidnapping.

this is quite alarming but somewhat relieved and surprised that no Filipino has been kidnapped that has something to do with Chinese kidnapping and gambling.

[Sanitough]

This is a fact, however, we cannot also remove that people and even the news generalize POGO so those who are diligently paying their taxes are affected.

this is true, but people generalizing it is due to media always only want to show one side of the story. the saddest part is some people doesn't even know what POGO is and just going with the flow and hating POGO without knowing anything about it.

BIAS media in the Philippines are now started to fall, ABS-CBN and Rappler and among the media that are now hated by people.

POGO when refer as gambling on the average mind of people, they will hate it but if media will also explain the good news, people might appreciate POGO. Media actually fail to tell us that POGO is paying billions of pesos for taxes, and this is a big help to boost our economy.

as you can see.

Philippines collects US$126 million in POGO taxes in 2019

That's over 6 biillion pesos of taxes.

[Casdinyard]

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Those POGO's that don't pay their taxes are those tagged as illegitimate POGOs. Like in any other business, there are good and bad. Some owners are lazy to work on their tax pending and the result, the penalty increase year by year. In general, there are lots of POGOS that complying with the law compared to those shitty ones. My brother is working in a POGO industry so I'm aware of their industry as I also employed there before.

I think you're quite wrong there. I've seen the news and read some article that says they were legitimate POGOs as they are licensed in the Philippines.
(Article: Majority of licensed Pogos failed to pay P50B in taxes in 2019 — BIR official

I also have a cousin working in POGO and he'd told me that those issue is indeed real.  And yes, the authorities are working on their cases as of now, and maybe they must do it much faster because the said companies are continuing their operations despite the pandemic.

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This is a fact, however, we cannot also remove that people and even the news generalize POGO so those who are diligently paying their taxes are affected. The government might as well focus on those who are operating illegally. I also have read an article that the number of crime related to gambling increased since China started their gambling operation here in Philippines and most of the crime commited is kidnapping.

Can you site the article you've been talking about? Well, that's another issue yet a bigger prospect than the reopening of the land based casinos. Yet, overall, gambling operations must be stopped first, in order to both prevent the pandemic and punish those POGOs that evades taxes and operates amidst the quarantine.

[Sanitough]

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Those POGO's that don't pay their taxes are those tagged as illegitimate POGOs. Like in any other business, there are good and bad. Some owners are lazy to work on their tax pending and the result, the penalty increase year by year. In general, there are lots of POGOS that complying with the law compared to those shitty ones. My brother is working in a POGO industry so I'm aware of their industry as I also employed there before.

I think you're quite wrong there. I've seen the news and read some article that says they were legitimate POGOs as they are licensed in the Philippines.
(Article: Majority of licensed Pogos failed to pay P50B in taxes in 2019 — BIR official

I also have a cousin working in POGO and he'd told me that those issue is indeed real. 

It's good that the BIR are honest under the current administration, if it's in the past administration, maybe this 50 billion tax defeciencies will not be collected as corrupt BIR officials will just take advantage on their personal interest. The fact that it was discovered, I think it would be easy for the authorities to collect that tax, otherwise, these operators will face some lawsuit.

And yes, the authorities are working on their cases as of now, and maybe they must do it much faster because the said companies are continuing their operations despite the pandemic.

I think they are already allowed to operate.

https://www.onenews.ph/pogos-to-resume-operations-after-quarantine-is-lifted

Labor Undersecretary Dominique Tutay says Philippine offshore gaming operations are expected to be back after their suspension in line with enhanced community quarantine in Luzon.

[pilosopotasyo]

BIAS media in the Philippines are now started to fall, ABS-CBN and Rappler and among the media that are now hated by people.

POGO when refer as gambling on the average mind of people, they will hate it but if media will also explain the good news, people might appreciate POGO. Media actually fail to tell us that POGO is paying billions of pesos for taxes, and this is a big help to boost our economy.

as you can see.

Philippines collects US$126 million in POGO taxes in 2019

That's over 6 biillion pesos of taxes.

These two media are the thorn administration of Duterte, they always broadcast bad news and left the good news, these POGO are a big help to our economy and they should be allowed to open so we can sustain the government needs in this dangerous times, Philippine is a third world country and needs a lot of source of income.

[Oilacris]

BIAS media in the Philippines are now started to fall, ABS-CBN and Rappler and among the media that are now hated by people.

POGO when refer as gambling on the average mind of people, they will hate it but if media will also explain the good news, people might appreciate POGO. Media actually fail to tell us that POGO is paying billions of pesos for taxes, and this is a big help to boost our economy.

as you can see.

Philippines collects US$126 million in POGO taxes in 2019

That's over 6 biillion pesos of taxes.

These two media are the thorn administration of Duterte, they always broadcast bad news and left the good news, these POGO are a big help to our economy and they should be allowed to open so we can sustain the government needs in this dangerous times, Philippine is a third world country and needs a lot of source of income.

As expected on how to media plays into this kind of issue not only into this part but in all sorts of sectors where they can hide or show off according to their likes.

I cant blame out the community or citizens to have its own insights towards POGO, why? the government had prohibit online gambling but still these things do exist and been allowed.

Who would be the one will not really be having a question in mind? In positive aspects, i can say that they can really be helpful towards taxation it would always matter in the legality.

[bitbunnny]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back in their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

As long that they follow the protocols to avoid spreading the virus.

If they will work according to how WHO/DOH procedures, it's possible to reopen and gain some help from this business.
We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

That's correct, therefore they need to earn from their operations and private operations to fund all the financial needs.

Why people are only looking at the bad side, which is when they resume the virus will spread, but not looking at the other side which would solve the problem in our economy. What we are experiencing now is the pandemic which is a health issue but it has a big effect on our economy that is why people will financially struggle especially those minimum wage earners who only rely on their daily income.

People would always look out for the bad side without even considering the other part or trying to understand on what government is trying to achieve.

They can support entirely if there were no tax being generated thats why their option is to let those businesses open in spite of the risk that we are facing now.

economy wont survive if this one would take too long.We should understand they are trying to save up lives but all of us wont sustain if we dont have income and also generate tax for the government.

Vaccine is all we need for us to go back to normal.

I'm not sure if vaccine would be enough. The virus could mutate and that iit wouldn't work for a long and it will spread again.
However, I agree that liviing needs to continue and economy and businesses needs to.go on, otherwise without income everything would colapse.And for most people, for some reason, government.is always on the bad side no matter what they do.

[carlfebz2]

If we were to decide, would we choose that they will not resume because of the covid-19 scare? or they have to resume to contribute to the economy?

I think it is better for them to resume it now.

As it will not just contribute to the workers and the economy, people will also have a way to ease their minds during this pandemic. Since here in our country, workers are starting to go back in their offices or jobs, I think it is time to resume. Also, they said that they will follow procedures so as long as they keep that up, gamblers and workers there would be fine.

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I'm not sure if vaccine would be enough. The virus could mutate and that iit wouldn't work for a long and it will spread again.
However, I agree that liviing needs to continue and economy and businesses needs to.go on, otherwise without income everything would colapse.And for most people, for some reason, government.is always on the bad side no matter what they do.

Its better than have nothing at all.If vaccine would be created then it would really be already treated out just like some contagious disease that we do know know like TB,HEPA and other similar.
At least we do know that theres cure behind.As time pass by this would really be part of the new normal.It might spread but it can be controlled since theres already a vaccine which most of us
are hoping for it to be available soon.

Economic collapse would happen if this situation would continue.Its a hard decisions for their part since they do know they are risking peoples lives
but it do really need to make such step.

[harizen]

I cant blame out the community or citizens to have its own insights towards POGO, why? the government had prohibit online gambling but still these things do exist and been allowed.

Online gambling is allowed freely in the PH. Of course, as long as the company involved will comply with the law or have their business registered. POGO is one of the businesses that became hype alongside with BPO industry. It's just that other POGO operators join the flow and take this as an advantage to the point that they will try to operate illegally.

I salute the PH government for their effort to track down those illegal POGO operators. However, like in other government agencies such as DTI, LTO, BIR, there are "moles" involved too that's why some illegitimate POGO is running under the shadows.

Who would be the one will not really be having a question in mind? In positive aspects, i can say that they can really be helpful towards taxation it would always matter in the legality.

The problem in media is, they are mostly covering the bad side of the POGO industry. Honestly, some people here when the term POGO is mentioned, they will think that those are illegal. Don't have time to argue with them, so be it.

[Sanitough]

Its better than have nothing at all.If vaccine would be created then it would really be already treated out just like some contagious disease that we do know know like TB,HEPA and other similar.
At least we do know that theres cure behind.As time pass by this would really be part of the new normal.It might spread but it can be controlled since theres already a vaccine which most of us
are hoping for it to be available soon.

Vaccine will prevent the spread because if all people will get vaccinated, they won't be infected with the virus anymore even if the virus still exist.
The virus has already been circulating around the world, we can't see them so we can't defeat them but a vaccine would be our protection and we will get back to our normal lives as long as the vaccine is release, we are in new normal now, but that time we will be back to normal.

Economic collapse would happen if this situation would continue.Its a hard decisions for their part since they do know they are risking peoples lives
but it do really need to make such step.

Of course, if only the government can stop the economy to save the lives of the people against the virus then they would do it, but they can't, they also need to take care of the economy, otherwise, we will experience an even worst problem.

[carlfebz2]

Its better than have nothing at all.If vaccine would be created then it would really be already treated out just like some contagious disease that we do know know like TB,HEPA and other similar.
At least we do know that theres cure behind.As time pass by this would really be part of the new normal.It might spread but it can be controlled since theres already a vaccine which most of us
are hoping for it to be available soon.

Vaccine will prevent the spread because if all people will get vaccinated, they won't be infected with the virus anymore even if the virus still exist.
The virus has already been circulating around the world, we can't see them so we can't defeat them but a vaccine would be our protection and we will get back to our normal lives as long as the vaccine is release, we are in new normal now, but that time we will be back to normal.

The question is, would the vaccine be cheap or can be attained/purchased by an average earner/ ordinary citizen? I have the doubts

that it wont really be that cheap.Lets hope that i would be wrong into that presumption and what matter most here is that vaccine should really be made asap

but for now, we should handle up things via our own discipline,

Economic collapse would happen if this situation would continue.Its a hard decisions for their part since they do know they are risking peoples lives
but it do really need to make such step.

Of course, if only the government can stop the economy to save the lives of the people against the virus then they would do it, but they can't, they also need to take care of the economy, otherwise, we will experience an even worst problem.

True, if there were no funds left then lots of sectors would be affected not only on health sector but on other as well, like infrastructure etc...

[freedomgo]

Its better than have nothing at all.If vaccine would be created then it would really be already treated out just like some contagious disease that we do know know like TB,HEPA and other similar.
At least we do know that theres cure behind.As time pass by this would really be part of the new normal.It might spread but it can be controlled since theres already a vaccine which most of us
are hoping for it to be available soon.

Vaccine will prevent the spread because if all people will get vaccinated, they won't be infected with the virus anymore even if the virus still exist.
The virus has already been circulating around the world, we can't see them so we can't defeat them but a vaccine would be our protection and we will get back to our normal lives as long as the vaccine is release, we are in new normal now, but that time we will be back to normal.

The question is, would the vaccine be cheap or can be attained/purchased by an average earner/ ordinary citizen? I have the doubts

that it wont really be that cheap.Lets hope that i would be wrong into that presumption and what matter most here is that vaccine should really be made asap

but for now, we should handle up things via our own discipline,

It should be, the government has to subsidize because this is pandemic where everyone could be a carrier.
The demand is worldwide therefore I don't expect it to be expensive, and it's need rather than a want, so pharma companies can't make a monopoly on this.

[target]

Its better than have nothing at all.If vaccine would be created then it would really be already treated out just like some contagious disease that we do know know like TB,HEPA and other similar.
At least we do know that theres cure behind.As time pass by this would really be part of the new normal.It might spread but it can be controlled since theres already a vaccine which most of us
are hoping for it to be available soon.

Vaccine will prevent the spread because if all people will get vaccinated, they won't be infected with the virus anymore even if the virus still exist.
The virus has already been circulating around the world, we can't see them so we can't defeat them but a vaccine would be our protection and we will get back to our normal lives as long as the vaccine is release, we are in new normal now, but that time we will be back to normal.

The question is, would the vaccine be cheap or can be attained/purchased by an average earner/ ordinary citizen? I have the doubts

that it wont really be that cheap.Lets hope that i would be wrong into that presumption and what matter most here is that vaccine should really be made asap

but for now, we should handle up things via our own discipline,

It should be, the government has to subsidize because this is pandemic where everyone could be a carrier.
The demand is worldwide therefore I don't expect it to be expensive, and it's need rather than a want, so pharma companies can't make a monopoly on this.

Can't say they will cooperate with it. They'd be creating two or maybe even more vaccines one for the most potent which will be a lot expensive and the cheaper for those not very effective. The most corrupt companies are these pharms who will prevent just about anything and will allow deaths of millions just for them to profit. Right now its the medicine that is still very expensive these days.

In the Philippines, even if you just have flu, they will isolate you and will be subject to be swabbed for Covid testing and has to pay for it before you'd be released from the hospital.

[asu]

The question is, would the vaccine be cheap or can be attained/purchased by an average earner/ ordinary citizen? I have the doubts

that it wont really be that cheap.Lets hope that i would be wrong into that presumption and what matter most here is that vaccine should really be made asap

There supposed to be. You might want to read the article below that has been published just a few hours ago.

"There is a clear, clear benefit," he said.

"The treatment is up to 10 days of dexamethasone and it costs about £5 per patient.

"So essentially it costs £35 to save a life.

"This is a drug that is globally available."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

[Hippocrypto]

You are right in here. However, there are still issues that resides behind the darkness of PAGCOR. The POGOs that still haven't paid taxes. Yes, we need money to both survive and use it for the research or for the maintenance of the pandemic, more specifically on health factors and frontliners' salaries. Yet, recently (and even as of now) PAGCOR investigates POGOs (mostly online platforms and employees are Chinese) with why their taxes are still pending. If they would focus on finishing recent problems first with their taxes, maybe they can use it for the pandemic and the people whom are trying to flatten the curve. Then if they can't comply nor pay their taxes as early as possible, they mustn't be operating now.

I don't want to talk about politics since after all that you say is just what you read on the news.

Those POGO's that don't pay their taxes are those tagged as illegitimate POGOs. Like in any other business, there are good and bad. Some owners are lazy to work on their tax pending and the result, the penalty increase year by year. In general, there are lots of POGOS that complying with the law compared to those shitty ones. My brother is working in a POGO industry so I'm aware of their industry as I also employed there before.

And authorities are doing their best to track down these POGOs and for the record some already comply with the law even before the pandemic hits hard the country.

This is a fact, however, we cannot also remove that people and even the news generalize POGO so those who are diligently paying their taxes are affected. The government might as well focus on those who are operating illegally. I also have read an article that the number of crime related to gambling increased since China started their gambling operation here in Philippines and most of the crime commited is kidnapping.

Most affected individuals is those foreign Chinese who've been kidnapped by their fellow races who also been addicted on gambling. This needs serious attention by our authorities in order to prevent certain crimes related to kidnapping. Illegal gambling should be stopped, and support the legalized one. Tax income came from legit gambling operators and the nation will benefit from, so if they obeyed the regulations and precautionary measures then there's no problem about it.

[Janation]

We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

So much that the debt is also added.

I don't know what the plan of the government is but the thing is that a lot of people are actually angry to our government, I do understand their side but they are not looking at the government's side too. I am not taking any sides here, I just want our country to survive and resume the normal lives we had before this pandemic.

I just hope the people and the leaders could agree on one thing to quickly fight this pandemic, that would be really great to see.

[TravelMug]

We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

So much that the debt is also added.

I don't know what the plan of the government is but the thing is that a lot of people are actually angry to our government, I do understand their side but they are not looking at the government's side too. I am not taking any sides here, I just want our country to survive and resume the normal lives we had before this pandemic.

President Duterte did everything in his power to help every Filipino, but with a tight budget and even if we did get help from private sectors to raise a lot of money, still not enough though. We can't really resume to our normal lives, sad to say.

I just hope the people and the leaders could agree on one thing to quickly fight this pandemic, that would be really great to see.

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

[Janation]

We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

So much that the debt is also added.

I don't know what the plan of the government is but the thing is that a lot of people are actually angry to our government, I do understand their side but they are not looking at the government's side too. I am not taking any sides here, I just want our country to survive and resume the normal lives we had before this pandemic.

President Duterte did everything in his power to help every Filipino, but with a tight budget and even if we did get help from private sectors to raise a lot of money, still not enough though. We can't really resume to our normal lives, sad to say.

I just hope the people and the leaders could agree on one thing to quickly fight this pandemic, that would be really great to see.

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

What I am saying is those people that are actually mad to the president.

Those people that keep on protesting despite the things the government did. I do understand what they're protesting has done but as he conflicts with these people fire up, it becomes harder. I guess we can't just really go back to the normal, at least we are slowly going back to our jobs and people are actually working again right now.

[lienfaye]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

[Sanitough]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

I think this is on the latest news regarding PAGCOR,

PAGCOR eyes gradual reopening of casinos

we can also see the reason on why they should open.

Pagcor’s revenues from gaming operations also went down by 5.72 percent to P17.22 billion from P18.27 billion.

Earlier, Domingo said the suspension of casino operations due to quarantine restrictions would cost the gaming regulator an estimated P6 billion in lost revenues every month.

“We have been doing very well, but COVID-19 came and somehow we have to take three steps back. But we are going to bounce back this month or at the very latest in July,” she said

[Taskford]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

[iTradeChips]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

In my opinion the so called, non-essential industries, casinos included, generate very big in the economy which also includes tourism. Look at the casinos in the bay area, they are at the same time can also act as tourist spots with their glamour and their malls inside. They should be opened, casinos, lottery places and sweepstakes (if we still have that) I mean we still need to follow the protocols, if the protocols cannot be followed then at least make them available online.

[Fredomago]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.

[TravelMug]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.

If you look at the suggestions coming from PAGCOR, it's definitely good so I would say that the President has good advisers behind him. Yes, land based casinos, and all casinos around the world are really good at generating money and paying good amount of tax to help government in their budget.

I personally view that they look at gamblers per se, meaning regardless if you are addicted or now. They look at the bigger picture now, they need to reopen and let gamblers play and at least gauge if how much money can be generated again amid the pandemic. For sure it will be different numbers and it could be low compare to pre-pandemic, but at least the government and the casino are rolling.

[Lanatsa]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.

If you look at the suggestions coming from PAGCOR, it's definitely good so I would say that the President has good advisers behind him. Yes, land based casinos, and all casinos around the world are really good at generating money and paying good amount of tax to help government in their budget.

I personally view that they look at gamblers per se, meaning regardless if you are addicted or now. They look at the bigger picture now, they need to reopen and let gamblers play and at least gauge if how much money can be generated again amid the pandemic. For sure it will be different numbers and it could be low compare to pre-pandemic, but at least the government and the casino are rolling.

It is really needed for them to re-open.This is a hard decision but they need to because it will surely collapse the entire economy if they would make such decisions.

PAGCOR will surely be approved since there are already countries which they had already re-opened the casinos which it isnt really a bad thing or IATF to consider on.

We know on how these places do generate income and even on the amidst of pandemic, we can really still see that theres still demand on it and yes it might not be the same on that normal day
we do know but at least they are slowly to keep up with the pace.

[TravelMug]

[..snip..]

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.

[..snip..]

It is really needed for them to re-open.This is a hard decision but they need to because it will surely collapse the entire economy if they would make such decisions.

PAGCOR will surely be approved since there are already countries which they had already re-opened the casinos which it isnt really a bad thing or IATF to consider on.

We know on how these places do generate income and even on the amidst of pandemic, we can really still see that theres still demand on it and yes it might not be the same on that normal day
we do know but at least they are slowly to keep up with the pace.

And I'm sure the government really put a lot of thinking on their decision here, but I would not say that the entire Philippine economy will collapse. But re-opening landbase casino will surely help ease the burden on government to generate money.

And there is really a demand for it, I can't confirmed by I talked to one taxi driver here, and he says that Solaire is already open because he had one customer who went to that casino. But it's like you have to schedule yourself before you can play. So it sort of cater more for VIP, if I'm not mistaken. Again, I don't know if this is true or not.

[Russlenat]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

Buying ticket for sweepstakes or lottery is just like ordering food in fast foods, if they will observed the social distancing, it should not create problem, so I believe that it will be re-open soon. According to the article shared above, they will gradually open businesses under PAGCOR so I think that approach is the right one.

[verita1]

The question is, would the vaccine be cheap or can be attained/purchased by an average earner/ ordinary citizen? I have the doubts

that it wont really be that cheap.Lets hope that i would be wrong into that presumption and what matter most here is that vaccine should really be made asap

There supposed to be. You might want to read the article below that has been published just a few hours ago.

"There is a clear, clear benefit," he said.

"The treatment is up to 10 days of dexamethasone and it costs about £5 per patient.

"So essentially it costs £35 to save a life.

"This is a drug that is globally available."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

This is a great discovery to combat Covid19's disease. Days ago I had thought that the cure for the coronavirus could be from existing medications. Hopefully the countries of the world to consider applying this medical treatment to save more lives. And thus be able to resume economic activities of all countries.

Regarding PAGCOR, CEO Andrea D. Domingo has said that the Casino should reopen this month or in July due to the economic importance of being active again and that 132,000 industry employees depend on it. The government needs money to fight the coronavirus and to be able to buy the vaccine when it becomes available.

https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/

[peter0425]

The country is having financial problem now(actually much bigger now) so we need another source of income and that is gambling.

President Duterte is the best President Philippines ever had and within His power things will be at best.

So whatever He decides is i will surely support.


Personally?gambling may start now with High restriction In regards to Health protocol so the spread of virus will be prevented.

[NavI_027]

The country is having financial problem now(actually much bigger now) so we need another source of income and that is gambling.

Well, that's good as long as you are not treating it as your main source of income because I'm sure you knew how risky it is, right? If you want a more secure source of money then online selling would be the best option. At least you can be able to enjoy your hobbies (usually in cooking) and make profits at the same time .

President Duterte is the best President Philippines ever had and within His power things will be at best.

So whatever He decides is i will surely support.

No offense dude but in my point of view I'm very disappointed with his current performance. I'm pertaining to the lapses made by different bureaus of the government with regards on fighting the virus (especially DOH tsk). Technically speaking, that is subordinate's main fault, but even we turn the world upside down, he is the commander thus he is also responsible for all the mistakes they did. Another one, why he didn't order to remove Duque and Sinas on their line of duties despite of their huge mistakes? I can't believe it .

[Bttzed03]

Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

[Russlenat]

Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.

[iTradeChips]

No offense dude but in my point of view I'm very disappointed with his current performance. I'm pertaining to the lapses made by different bureaus of the government with regards on fighting the virus (especially DOH tsk). Technically speaking, that is subordinate's main fault, but even we turn the world upside down, he is the commander thus he is also responsible for all the mistakes they did. Another one, why he didn't order to remove Duque and Sinas on their line of duties despite of their huge mistakes? I can't believe it .

Since we are now in making a little segue from the talk of PAGCOR to the talk of some crypto enthusiasts dissatisfaction on Duterte's overall performance of the pandemic, I would like to ask the good fellow the sources of his dissatisfaction with the President. Many people in the society specially the middle class and high society have expressed dissatisfaction with the President, which rose considerably after the expiry of the franchise of a certain TV network I will not mention here. The president himself told the people to criticize all you want.

He mentioned “I govern properly and right. If it makes you happy, then you smile. If not, you criticize me,” and “Walang pigil, social media, lahat kayo (No one is preventing you from using social media. All of you),”  that statement from the President is for me already a sign that he is letting the dogs bark as much as they can and as long as they can as long as he knows he is doing his best to counter the pandemic.*

The issue with Sinas for me is somewhat trivial now as many people have forgiven (possibly not the right word, preferable to forgotten) the said act. The president even said that firing a person because some colleagues sang a birthday song and ate merienda is somewhat too much. If I add some politicking in this I would say the left is the one who wants Sinas' head.**

As for Duque, this has been an ongoing issue since April. Senator Dick Gordon*** even said that the fiasco Duque is experiencing right now might be a sign that someone else might obssessed in getting his position as Health Secretary that is why they are up in arms.

In spite what we see and hear in media, there is much more happening in Politics, Government, Economics, that we normies always miss and always doesn't know. It is really our leanings that would dictate if we pro or anti despite best efforts of the government.

So we go back to PAGCOR, yes? :-)

* - https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/04/06/2005798/people-unhappy-covid-response-free-criticize-duterte
** - https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/05/20/2015275/duterte-honest-sinas-stays-metro-manilas-top-cop-despite-controversial-birthday-party
*** - https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/gordon-thinks-people-are-after-duques-post-as-he-faces-ombudsman-probe/ar-BB15LZzu?li=BBr8Mkn

[Sanitough]

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

I believe it will be reopen soon, they are just waiting for the right time, there's no government that would survive in this crisis if they will not fully open the economy and give way for big businesses to continue their operation, PAGCOR is making billions and we need that money to fund this very expensive war that we are at now. We will see next month, if the GCQ in Metro Manila will not be extended, then there's a good chance that operation will resume after months of being halted.

[carlfebz2]

Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.

When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.

[Debonaire217]

When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.

I think we are experiencing the opposite now, the number of positive cases is rapidly increasing yet, we are not in ECQ but placed in GCQ, the reason is that as long as keep ourselves secured, the economy is getting worse. Policies needed not to tighten up for people to continue go to work, and for establishments such as casinos to work. This is a big issue especially since some other businesses aren't allowed to operate but they are pushing casinos to open. It is not for the sake of having fun while in this situation but lots of employees in casinos need to work in order to buy necessities to live.

[samputin]

<...>

I think we are experiencing the opposite now, the number of positive cases is rapidly increasing yet, we are not in ECQ but placed in GCQ, the reason is that as long as keep ourselves secured, the economy is getting worse. Policies needed not to tighten up for people to continue go to work, and for establishments such as casinos to work. This is a big issue especially since some other businesses aren't allowed to operate but they are pushing casinos to open. It is not for the sake of having fun while in this situation but lots of employees in casinos need to work in order to buy necessities to live.

And I think this is somewhat a crossroad between safety of everyone and keeping the economy from continuous downturn. I mean, the government doesn't want to have additional number of positive cases but they also don't want the citizens to starve to death. Same thing with an ordinary individual who wants to provide for his family. He doesn't want to be exposed outside since there's still a threat but he has to so he could put food on their table. This pandemic makes things even harder.

But since we cannot ignore the fact that we still have to survive from day to day, businesses should resume including land-based casinos for the sake of employees' income. So to ensure safety, minimum health requirements should be strictly implemented and followed, and it's effectivity and efficiency lies on the management and the employees themselves. 

[freedomgo]

Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.

When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.

That's why there is a protocol because it's purpose is to control the crowd, please don't expect that it will be the same scenario we will see in the past once PAGCOR will resume, just like other businesses, they have to adopt with the new normal.

[michellee]

I believe it will be reopen soon, they are just waiting for the right time, there's no government that would survive in this crisis if they will not fully open the economy and give way for big businesses to continue their operation, PAGCOR is making billions and we need that money to fund this very expensive war that we are at now. We will see next month, if the GCQ in Metro Manila will not be extended, then there's a good chance that operation will resume after months of being halted.

If the government can be wise, they will not force the casino to reopen their business, but they will ask the other business to start, especially with the business that related to people's life. That will be better if the other business can contribute to this pandemic because they can also help many people live, and they can start the economy in that country. But if the government still insists on reopening the gambling industry, they need to use the strict protocol to protect people.

[Maslate]

That's why there is a protocol because it's purpose is to control the crowd, please don't expect that it will be the same scenario we will see in the past once PAGCOR will resume, just like other businesses, they have to adopt with the new normal.

Exactly, PAGCOR can't be remain in lock down while other industry are already operating.
The Philippines is not a rich country, considering the contribution of PAGCOR in our economy, it should be allowed to reopen its businesses.

The protocol is there and battle against corona virus is gonna be long, and we can't keep PAGCOR lock down that long.

[mirakal]

I read the article about this also, it's dated June 8, 2020, don't know if it's the latest news but here's some important information I guess we should know.

“We’re going to get on with it in June or at the very latest in July,” Domingo said, noting that the reopening of gambling centers in the country would benefit the industry’s 132,000 employees.

source : https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/

Therefore, if it's not possible to open this month, we can expect them by next month, probably in the 1st week or 2nd week.

I'm really concern about the huge number of employees who lost their job.

[Sanitough]

I believe it will be reopen soon, they are just waiting for the right time, there's no government that would survive in this crisis if they will not fully open the economy and give way for big businesses to continue their operation, PAGCOR is making billions and we need that money to fund this very expensive war that we are at now. We will see next month, if the GCQ in Metro Manila will not be extended, then there's a good chance that operation will resume after months of being halted.

If the government can be wise, they will not force the casino to reopen their business, but they will ask the other business to start, especially with the business that related to people's life. That will be better if the other business can contribute to this pandemic because they can also help many people live, and they can start the economy in that country. But if the government still insists on reopening the gambling industry, they need to use the strict protocol to protect people.

Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.

As you can see, that 132,000 employees are depending on casino, with that number of employees, it's also easy to determine how much PAGCOR is contributing to the economy, remember this is our own casino, the profit goes directly to the government which they can use to help people affected by the pandemic, especially those who are very poor or the poorest among the poor.

“We’re going to get on with it in June or at the very latest in July,” Domingo said, noting that the reopening of gambling centers in the country would benefit the industry’s 132,000 employees.

source : https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/

[hunter7519]

It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.

[batang_bitcoin]

It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.

It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon.
There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.

[freedomgo]

It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.

It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon.
There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.

If the government will approve it, they also will ensure that they are monitoring the casinos properly. I think those who are under the strict monitoring of the government will be more safer, so if this would cause an addition to confirm cases, I believe they will not be the major contributor of it.

[peter0425]

Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.

When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.

Actually If Pagcor allows these gambling company to operates then this is not a government job to make this casino players be safe because it is operators and administrations obligation to make the health protocols going.

But i am sure that this will be allowed sooner because of the on going GCQ and starting to let life back top normal so more or less it won't take month before this will be awarded to the gambling operators.

[Shasha80]

In my opinion as long as running safety protocols properly there is no harm in reopening land-based casinos, anyway if we continue
quarantine the economy will continue to fall. As we know the vaccine has not been found, then do not know when this corona virus ends.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.

[Sanitough]

In my opinion as long as running safety protocols properly there is no harm in reopening land-based casinos, anyway if we continue
quarantine the economy will continue to fall.

You have a very good point, I've stated that in my posts above that we need this casino to resume so it will gain revenue.
We are talking of a billion pesos industry here, if we won't allow it to operate then we should not complain if the government won't be able to help its citizen in their needs. The issue here is the poor needs support, especially those who were unemployed because of the pandemic, do you think the government are just creating money from thin air to support these sectors?

Our agency like the SSS and DSWD, they provide funds to support those who are in need, that's billions of pesos of expenses from the government side. 

As we know the vaccine has not been found, then do not know when this corona virus ends.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.

It will not be available this year, there's no way we can wait for that.

[asu]

Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month.  

Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus

Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.

[batang_bitcoin]

It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.

It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon.
There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.

If the government will approve it, they also will ensure that they are monitoring the casinos properly. I think those who are under the strict monitoring of the government will be more safer, so if this would cause an addition to confirm cases, I believe they will not be the major contributor of it.

They could be not by still they can contribute to the additional number of cases.
But I hope that I'm wrong with that part and each safety net will be applied by these opening establishments not just for one country but most of the countries that will go back in business together with their gambling sector.
Observing strict protocol and social distancing in all manner. And for sure they will use disinfectant for their machines everyday.

[Bttzed03]

A quick update on reopening, PAGCOR chief says landbased casinos are now allowed to conduct dry-runs.

Some casinos outside Manila have been allowed to open. In an interview with Andrea Domingo, Head of PAGCOR. She said that casinos can start holding dry-runs which is a positive sign for the re-opening of the Casino.

Some Poker houses have begun to conduct the rapid tests for the coronavirus.

There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.

For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:



^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).

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Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus

Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.

Yup. As I've been saying before, our health facilities are way better now compared to two months ago and that can be seen with the increasing no. of recoveries. I'm guessing that the Government already accepted the fact that COVID-19 won't be eliminated anytime soon but they are probably more confident in our healthcare now in handling patients.

The Government has been very clear from the start that our economy cannot sustain a prolonged lockdown. Slowly opening businesses like land-based casinos is a good start for a slow economic recovery.

[asu]

There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.

Pretty much, that's it then. We'll about to see some other things going back to "new normal" by the end of the month.

For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:

^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).

Yup, there is no face glass.
Either way, it just looks ridiculous and ain't classy for casino.

[carlfebz2]

A quick update on reopening, PAGCOR chief says landbased casinos are now allowed to conduct dry-runs.

Some casinos outside Manila have been allowed to open. In an interview with Andrea Domingo, Head of PAGCOR. She said that casinos can start holding dry-runs which is a positive sign for the re-opening of the Casino.

Some Poker houses have begun to conduct the rapid tests for the coronavirus.

There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.

For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:

^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).

I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then

imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think

that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.

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Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus

Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.

Yup. As I've been saying before, our health facilities are way better now compared to two months ago and that can be seen with the increasing no. of recoveries. I'm guessing that the Government already accepted the fact that COVID-19 won't be eliminated anytime soon but they are probably more confident in our healthcare now in handling patients.

The Government has been very clear from the start that our economy cannot sustain a prolonged lockdown. Slowly opening businesses like land-based casinos is a good start for a slow economic recovery.

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It wont really sustain for too long thats why they do came up into this kind of decision.Its hard but wont have any choice or else it would completely shutdown its economy.

We have seen on how thing goes when other re-open these kind of business and somehow it do works.

[asu]

I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then

imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think

that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.

Don't take the image by what you see.
Of course, there's still another layer of precautionary measures to be implemented before you can enter the casino.
However, preventing the covid-19 spreading is impossible in some cases thus the risks involve is high making possible the impossible.

[carlfebz2]

I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then

imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think

that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.

Don't take the image by what you see.
Of course, there's still another layer of precautionary measures to be implemented before you can enter the casino.
However, preventing the covid-19 spreading is impossible in some cases thus the risks involve is high making possible the impossible.

What are their measures?

Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.

Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.

[harizen]

What are their measures?

Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.

Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.

More asymptomatic persons are surely on those essential establishments, not in the casinos. I don't see why should physical casinos be looked at as another reason for spread. It's not that once it was opened, there will be lots of gamblers that will play here, and again even it does, just follow the strict protocol. How it can become useless?

Since we are talking about new normal then facing the risks is part of it. Casinos might not be an essential and necessary establishment to be opened but we are talking about PAGCOR casinos here and it's no secret that PAGCOR plays a big role in the government. Let them squeezed money from those rich ones who aren't totally affected at all during the lockdown.

People will never understand the situation until they experienced being one of those who become unemployed because of the pandemic virus. Once casinos open, thousands of their employees will also come back to work, might be in a skeletal workforce. It's no different at all at those other establishments.

Stay optimistic. It's easy to say that these casinos shouldn't be opened but we must also look at the reasons why should they opened.

[Baofeng]

This will be a gradual process, I don't think all casino's will be open in a day. I think it will be the big one first in Manila for a test and then in other parts of the Philippines. And for the record, according to the protocols they have set, it will be no card/no entry policy. So it's not just everyone could enter and play pre-pandemic. In order of average gamblers, you have to show that you have this so called membership card before you can play. And I'm sure that they will stop accepting new membership during this pandemic to control the crowd. Fortunately for me, I have all membership cards in the big three (RW, COD, Solaire), however, I'm not interested to gamble because of health risk.

[harizen]

Fortunately for me, I have all membership cards in the big three (RW, COD, Solaire), however, I'm not interested to gamble because of health risk.

See. Here is one example that even people do have resources or any forms of access, they will not just go to the casino once it opened.

Surely, this mindset is also on other people as well.

That's why casinos are doing a dry run to have an insight on what should they expect once they adopt the new normal system.

I'm in favor of the casino opening. If only others see the situation in the Metro, especially those who hardly hit by the lockdown, they will able to understand how difficult for IATF to approve something.

[michellee]

Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.

As you can see, that 132,000 employees are depending on casino, with that number of employees, it's also easy to determine how much PAGCOR is contributing to the economy, remember this is our own casino, the profit goes directly to the government which they can use to help people affected by the pandemic, especially those who are very poor or the poorest among the poor.

I know the government's revenue from gambling is big, but that doesn't mean they can use it as a reason to reopen the casino. Maybe the government can think of another solution for the employees because I don't think that all employees can still go back to their old jobs. Besides that, it needs more concern from the government to help people affected COVID-19, but if there is no other way to get the revenue than to reopen the casino, then maybe that is the only way solution. If opening the casino is the solution, the government must manage everything before it's reopened, including protecting the gamblers who visit on every gambling places.

[rhomelmabini]

Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.

The government will prioritize revenue over health that's only an opinion and how can they be so sure if they open they get gamblers flocking the casino, I don't think it will be that imminent. With the daily cases ramping to 600 - 700 and 200 of it are mostly in NCR and that's a gamble to them if they open and new more cases will be added and even if they are strict to it they may not know if these players are.

[mirakal]

Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.

The government will prioritize revenue over health that's only an opinion and how can they be so sure if they open they get gamblers flocking the casino, I don't think it will be that imminent. With the daily cases ramping to 600 - 700 and 200 of it are mostly in NCR and that's a gamble to them if they open and new more cases will be added and even if they are strict to it they may not know if these players are.

You guys have different opinion, both are good, one says about the economy and the other says about the health or safety of the people.
I think if we look at the other country, for example, USA, they are a big country so we can assume that they have a lot of savings for the pandemic, but question is, why they still open the casino operation? And in fact vegas is not a public owned casino while PAGCOR here is owned by the government.

Also, with regards to number of cases, USA has over 2 million while Philippines only has 31k, though it's growing but it's expected as the number were taken from different parts of the country.

[Bttzed03]

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I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then
imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think
that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.

Aside from frequent alcohol, casinos can also choose to require players to wear medical gloves too 
Anyway, the place would surely be sanitized and players will have to be checked and 'cleansed' before they would enter.

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Either way, it just looks ridiculous and ain't classy for casino.

True. Imagine the players wearing suits/medical gowns also

This will be a gradual process, I don't think all casino's will be open in a day. I think it will be the big one first in Manila for a test and then in other parts of the Philippines.

The gradual opening will most likely be the case. The facilities should be inspected first before they get the approval to reopen.

Some casinos in Pampanga were already allowed to open by the way.

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I know the government's revenue from gambling is big, but that doesn't mean they can use it as a reason to reopen the casino.

They can and it is the main reason why they will be allowed to reopen. The revenue from gambling is essential to the Government's effort to boost the economy while spending less on 'reliefs'. Funds from PAGCOR will be also used to buy more PPEs for our healthcare to fight the pandemic.

Maybe the government can think of another solution for the employees because I don't think that all employees can still go back to their old jobs.

I'm pretty sure they've discussed this matter thoroughly.

FYI, private businesses are already allowing their employees to go back to their old jobs since GCQ but at a limited capacity. I also read that even churches are allowed to open at 50% capacity on areas under MGCQ. I don't see why land based casinos should be any different.

[mirakal]

thats because they are private and not govt controlled thats why they can do what they want and they insist to operate 

I think that is wrong, every business that was halted because of the covid-19 pandemic needs an approval from the government before they can start to operate again, and Las Vegas casinos is not exempted.The difference I'm talking is the revenue, PAGCOR is owned by the government, they have bigger interest on it than to those private casinos where they only collect taxes as their income, and there's no big difference as they both belong to the casino industry, same set up of operation, they could also be a cause to spread the virus.

Now, you are saying that Americans are more discipline, I think that's wrong again, they are the number 1 in terms of number of cases which you can see the figures in my previous post.

[STT]

Theres no reasonable compromise to put the economy first, people getting ill and even death and permanent lung damage because they did activity not required is not going to help an economy longer term anyway.    They will have to reopen some business but the one constant is to reduce the chances of infection, to me that means drastically less traffic and mixing between clients in open areas.    Theres more complicated scenarios, but say slot machines it would have to be only one machine out of a bank of six could be used in any half hour duration and then it needs to be wiped down before the next person.   Thats alot more cost to do business in overheads and supervision I guess, what is inevitable is business cuts corners and cases rise in spikes where people are especially careless or unlucky to be near a bad outbreak.
    My regulation would be to ensure no business can reopen (before vaccine) after failing to distance their customers, thats their one chance gone and also any inspection that shows poor management would also mean closure on public health grounds.   If the rules are implemented in that way, the business should be self regulating and fearing the effects of outbreaks to their revenue.

[freedomgo]

   My regulation would be to ensure no business can reopen (before vaccine) after failing to distance their customers, thats their one chance gone and also any inspection that shows poor management would also mean closure on public health grounds.   If the rules are implemented in that way, the business should be self regulating and fearing the effects of outbreaks to their revenue.

That's the kind of strict measures that needs to be implemented, if they will not comply, they will be closed and they won't be re open again until the vaccine is release, I think that way casinos will be more vigilant and they will ensure to implement the guidelines effectively.

[NavI_027]

   My regulation would be to ensure no business can reopen (before vaccine) after failing to distance their customers, thats their one chance gone and also any inspection that shows poor management would also mean closure on public health grounds.   If the rules are implemented in that way, the business should be self regulating and fearing the effects of outbreaks to their revenue.

That's the kind of strict measures that needs to be implemented, if they will not comply, they will be closed and they won't be re open again until the vaccine is release, I think that way casinos will be more vigilant and they will ensure to implement the guidelines effectively.

Strict implementation of safety protocols are great however everything still depends on the self-discipline possessed by each and everyone. Sometimes I think that the virus is no longer the reason why we are suffering until now because it can be contained anyway. The problem I saw right now is the disobedience of the rules. I feel bad because it seems that people already forgot social distancing etc. etc. right after the government uplift ECQs and shift into GCQ. Most of them thought they are now resilient from the virus.

My point is, as long as there are careless players then no casino will operate that long and reclose once again. Same thing applied in every field or industry.

Honestly, I noticed that people out here are now back to normal — not the "new normal" . What more on the urban areas with greater population. But well I hope everything I observed is just an underestimation.

[freedomgo]

My point is, as long as there are careless players then no casino will operate that long and reclose once again. Same thing applied in every field or industry.

Then this should be applied to other industries, like Salon, Grocery stores and etc. , if that's your point, then there's no reason the aforementioned business will also operate. Careless individual are everywhere, not only in casino, there are also careless people in church, and why the government allowed it to open?

[NavI_027]

My point is, as long as there are careless players then no casino will operate that long and reclose once again. Same thing applied in every field or industry.

Then this should be applied to other industries, like Salon, Grocery stores and etc. , if that's your point, then there's no reason the aforementioned business will also operate. Careless individual are everywhere, not only in casino, there are also careless people in church, and why the government allowed it to open?

Hmm because of falling economy?

I strongly believe that our government want to extend hard lockdowns until the vaccine finally invented or at least diminish the number of cases until they can isolate it more easily. But since we are not as rich as the other countries, we can't afford to spend with no gains in return for a longer period of time thus they have no choice but to open the industry. And as a consequence, we experience a slow flattening of curve.

As of yesterday, our country got the highest daily record of 1,150 new cases (Fresh: 789 Late: 361) via Rappler. Do you believe no single person out of it got the virus without even doing any lapses at all? I don't think so. Inspite of that, I'm not blaming anyone.

[Baofeng]

Fortunately for me, I have all membership cards in the big three (RW, COD, Solaire), however, I'm not interested to gamble because of health risk.

See. Here is one example that even people do have resources or any forms of access, they will not just go to the casino once it opened.

Surely, this mindset is also on other people as well.

That's why casinos are doing a dry run to have an insight on what should they expect once they adopt the new normal system.

I'm in favor of the casino opening. If only others see the situation in the Metro, especially those who hardly hit by the lockdown, they will able to understand how difficult for IATF to approve something.

Don't get me wrong though, I still supports PAGCOR plan on re-opening soon to really test how casino are going to do in this pandemic, however, I don't want to be another statistics, 

I would rather see the curve flatten first. And agree that I'm not the only one that has this mindset, and besides, I play in land based casino to get the lively atmosphere, but in this new norm, casino's will be quiet as hell, I don't know if there will be entertainment as well, like the live bands, so I will really skip and play online.

[freedomgo]

Fortunately for me, I have all membership cards in the big three (RW, COD, Solaire), however, I'm not interested to gamble because of health risk.

See. Here is one example that even people do have resources or any forms of access, they will not just go to the casino once it opened.

Surely, this mindset is also on other people as well.

That's why casinos are doing a dry run to have an insight on what should they expect once they adopt the new normal system.

I'm in favor of the casino opening. If only others see the situation in the Metro, especially those who hardly hit by the lockdown, they will able to understand how difficult for IATF to approve something.

Don't get me wrong though, I still supports PAGCOR plan on re-opening soon to really test how casino are going to do in this pandemic, however, I don't want to be another statistics, 

I would rather see the curve flatten first. And agree that I'm not the only one that has this mindset, and besides, I play in land based casino to get the lively atmosphere, but in this new norm, casino's will be quiet as hell, I don't know if there will be entertainment as well, like the live bands, so I will really skip and play online.

They might still have the same kind of entertainment but just like what you think, people are also thinking of the safety so the number of goers in a land based casino will significantly reduce compared to the past when everything was still normal.

I think if they reopens, this is not called a dry run, even if there are cases of infection from the casino or within the casino, the business will continue to run as the government can't afford it to stop.

[carlfebz2]

What are their measures?

Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.

Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.

More asymptomatic persons are surely on those essential establishments, not in the casinos. I don't see why should physical casinos be looked at as another reason for spread. It's not that once it was opened, there will be lots of gamblers that will play here, and again even it does, just follow the strict protocol. How it can become useless?

Since we are talking about new normal then facing the risks is part of it. Casinos might not be an essential and necessary establishment to be opened but we are talking about PAGCOR casinos here and it's no secret that PAGCOR plays a big role in the government. Let them squeezed money from those rich ones who aren't totally affected at all during the lockdown.

People will never understand the situation until they experienced being one of those who become unemployed because of the pandemic virus. Once casinos open, thousands of their employees will also come back to work, might be in a skeletal workforce. It's no different at all at those other establishments.

Stay optimistic. It's easy to say that these casinos shouldn't be opened but we must also look at the reasons why should they opened.

The thing you said was right, im not really that too negative but im just really too much concern on the spread of the virus thats why i do gave out my input towards it but im aint saying

that re-opening these establishments is bad.We should accept the fact that we are trying to adapt on such changes even though its not completely safe but at least

we are trying our best to follow and one key here is that people should really be disciplined on following up new protocols.

[Janation]

It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.

Still increasing and the government can't stop it.

In the same case, we will never be able to stop the approval of PAGCOR since as far as I know it is already approved. All we can hope right now is for them to follow the new norm. It is the best choice for the people and the country itself since we will be able to regain slowly the dumping economy of the country and the people getting back to their jobs.

[Bttzed03]

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Don't get me wrong though, I still supports PAGCOR plan on re-opening soon to really test how casino are going to do in this pandemic, however, I don't want to be another statistics, 

You will still be part of the 'unaffected' stats

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As of yesterday, our country got the highest daily record of 1,150 new cases (Fresh: 789 Late: 361) via Rappler.

The increasing number of new cases is to be expected with the reopening of businesses and public transportation.


Speaking of stats, I'm just gonna point this out here since the focus is only on no. of cases and not many are paying attention to the other equally important data.

No. of recoveries stats:




No. of deaths stats:



(Note that the above data may be incomplete - source)

^ I'm pretty sure our Government relies on those stats as well when discussing their next move. Even with more recoveries and less death recorded daily, the Government is still cautious and taking it slowly (that's a good thing!).

The data above also supports the move to reopen businesses like land-based casinos.

[Maslate]

It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.

Still increasing and the government can't stop it.

In the same case, we will never be able to stop the approval of PAGCOR since as far as I know it is already approved. All we can hope right now is for them to follow the new norm. It is the best choice for the people and the country itself since we will be able to regain slowly the dumping economy of the country and the people getting back to their jobs.

We are talking of over 100k jobs, so it's not possible that they will close PAGCOR and will just allow it to open when the vaccine is release or this problem is over. They can actually make some statistics, which I'm pretty sure if there's cases due to PAGCOR operation, they would not lead in number of cases.

What I'm saying is it's possible that virus can be transmitted in a casino, but other industries or businesses will be more prone to that.

[Vaculin]

One of the main concerns is the jobs for the people who are working in the casinos do not lose it because of the lockdown or less people will visit casinos now if they are open.

If based on that statement, I think we also have to consider that if less people are going in a casino, the number workers has to also reduce, that's balancing the income and expense.

And hopefully they will get the salary for the time it was lockdown and casinos were shut . Considering the cases are just rising hope people even if go to casinos if they are open do follow the proper guidelines .

This one, it depends on the policy of the company, but since this is a government entity, I think they will be more transparent and law compliant.

[Janation]

What I'm saying is it's possible that virus can be transmitted in a casino, but other industries or businesses will be more prone to that.

I think it would be more prone to casinos.

Some people are actually thinking that the virus is no more and they treat it like a normal day with just a facemask on.  Despite the "new normal", I think people would still be at risk since a lot of people would obviously be in a table they can't stop people from coming in and out of the place. I hope more people would realize that it is riskier to bet in a casino.

[Fredomago]

I think it would be more prone to casinos.

Chance is very high if same setup will take place knowing how people move inside the casino place.

Some people are actually thinking that the virus is no more and they treat it like a normal day with just a facemask on.  Despite the "new normal", I think people would still be at risk since a lot of people would obviously be in a table they can't stop people from coming in and out of the place. I hope more people would realize that it is riskier to bet in a casino.

Riskier indeed since it's hard for people to change attitude from the normal ways that they are doing when playing around, there are lots of safety measures to keep the virus away and lessen the chance of spreading.

[Russlenat]

What I'm saying is it's possible that virus can be transmitted in a casino, but other industries or businesses will be more prone to that.

I think it would be more prone to casinos.

Some people are actually thinking that the virus is no more and they treat it like a normal day with just a facemask on.  Despite the "new normal", I think people would still be at risk since a lot of people would obviously be in a table they can't stop people from coming in and out of the place. I hope more people would realize that it is riskier to bet in a casino.

It's prone to anywhere, it only depend on the measures a certain establishment would do, if they follow then the risk is less, if not it's high, that is because the virus is here, it will stay for awhile at it could infect in any way. Let us not underestimate it, instead of complaining why this industry or that industry is allow to open, I think we just need to understand the main purpose on why it was allowed, and just follow all the measures and be responsible all the time.

[plvbob0070]

It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.

Still increasing and the government can't stop it.

In the same case, we will never be able to stop the approval of PAGCOR since as far as I know it is already approved. All we can hope right now is for them to follow the new norm. It is the best choice for the people and the country itself since we will be able to regain slowly the dumping economy of the country and the people getting back to their jobs.

We are talking of over 100k jobs, so it's not possible that they will close PAGCOR and will just allow it to open when the vaccine is release or this problem is over. They can actually make some statistics, which I'm pretty sure if there's cases due to PAGCOR operation, they would not lead in number of cases.

What I'm saying is it's possible that virus can be transmitted in a casino, but other industries or businesses will be more prone to that.

It's almost the same as other businesses. They need to reopen to earn income, as well as their employees. The government also needs businesses to operate to save the economy. The only difference is, workers are risking their lives to make a living while gamblers are risking their lives to risk money.

Talking about resuming of operation, I saw this article saying that PAGCOR already allowed POGOs to resume their operation. However, those who haven't cleared their tax obligation was not granted approval to operate.  Only 11 POGOs secured their clearance to BIR and permitted of Authority to Resume Operation (ARO), while some were remain pending. It is also stated that there are 60 licensed POGO in the country yet the majority still have an issue with tax so they still can't resume their operation.

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https://www.asgam.com/index.php/2020/06/22/pagcor-reveals-11-pogos-currently-cleared-to-operate-post-covid/

[Vaculin]

Talking about resuming of operation, I saw this article saying that PAGCOR already allowed POGOs to resume their operation.

Yes, they were already allowed to operate and the government are really making money from this operation, it's also a billion pesos revenue in terms of taxes.

However, those who haven't cleared their tax obligation was not granted approval to operate.  Only 11 POGOs secured their clearance to BIR and permitted of Authority to Resume Operation (ARO), while some were remain pending. It is also stated that there are 60 licensed POGO in the country yet the majority still have an issue with tax so they still can't resume their operation.

Code:

https://www.asgam.com/index.php/2020/06/22/pagcor-reveals-11-pogos-currently-cleared-to-operate-post-covid/

This is the time that the government has to be strict, we need funds for our economy and we need people who are honest with their job, they should collect what is due to them as they can use that money to fund the necessary expenses in the present time.