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June 17, 2020, 02:54:51 AM
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We all know how the government are trying to earn to continue surviving from this pandemic virus, there are lots of
expenses especially from the medical aspects of the society.

So much that the debt is also added.

I don't know what the plan of the government is but the thing is that a lot of people are actually angry to our government, I do understand their side but they are not looking at the government's side too. I am not taking any sides here, I just want our country to survive and resume the normal lives we had before this pandemic.

President Duterte did everything in his power to help every Filipino, but with a tight budget and even if we did get help from private sectors to raise a lot of money, still not enough though. We can't really resume to our normal lives, sad to say.

I just hope the people and the leaders could agree on one thing to quickly fight this pandemic, that would be really great to see.

They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.

What I am saying is those people that are actually mad to the president.

Those people that keep on protesting despite the things the government did. I do understand what they're protesting has done but as he conflicts with these people fire up, it becomes harder. I guess we can't just really go back to the normal, at least we are slowly going back to our jobs and people are actually working again right now.
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June 17, 2020, 03:08:02 AM
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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

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June 20, 2020, 11:29:15 AM
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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.
Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

I think this is on the latest news regarding PAGCOR,

PAGCOR eyes gradual reopening of casinos

we can also see the reason on why they should open.
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Pagcor’s revenues from gaming operations also went down by 5.72 percent to P17.22 billion from P18.27 billion.

Earlier, Domingo said the suspension of casino operations due to quarantine restrictions would cost the gaming regulator an estimated P6 billion in lost revenues every month.

“We have been doing very well, but COVID-19 came and somehow we have to take three steps back. But we are going to bounce back this month or at the very latest in July,” she said
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June 20, 2020, 01:33:58 PM
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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.
Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

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June 20, 2020, 02:42:48 PM
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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.
Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

In my opinion the so called, non-essential industries, casinos included, generate very big in the economy which also includes tourism. Look at the casinos in the bay area, they are at the same time can also act as tourist spots with their glamour and their malls inside. They should be opened, casinos, lottery places and sweepstakes (if we still have that) I mean we still need to follow the protocols, if the protocols cannot be followed then at least make them available online.

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June 20, 2020, 03:06:05 PM
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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.

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June 20, 2020, 03:17:39 PM
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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.

If you look at the suggestions coming from PAGCOR, it's definitely good so I would say that the President has good advisers behind him. Yes, land based casinos, and all casinos around the world are really good at generating money and paying good amount of tax to help government in their budget.

I personally view that they look at gamblers per se, meaning regardless if you are addicted or now. They look at the bigger picture now, they need to reopen and let gamblers play and at least gauge if how much money can be generated again amid the pandemic. For sure it will be different numbers and it could be low compare to pre-pandemic, but at least the government and the casino are rolling.

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June 20, 2020, 11:10:07 PM
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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.

If you look at the suggestions coming from PAGCOR, it's definitely good so I would say that the President has good advisers behind him. Yes, land based casinos, and all casinos around the world are really good at generating money and paying good amount of tax to help government in their budget.

I personally view that they look at gamblers per se, meaning regardless if you are addicted or now. They look at the bigger picture now, they need to reopen and let gamblers play and at least gauge if how much money can be generated again amid the pandemic. For sure it will be different numbers and it could be low compare to pre-pandemic, but at least the government and the casino are rolling.

It is really needed for them to re-open.This is a hard decision but they need to because it will surely collapse the entire economy if they would make such decisions.

PAGCOR will surely be approved since there are already countries which they had already re-opened the casinos which it isnt really a bad thing or IATF to consider on.

We know on how these places do generate income and even on the amidst of pandemic, we can really still see that theres still demand on it and yes it might not be the same on that normal day
we do know but at least they are slowly to keep up with the pace.


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Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.

He needs to have advisers who are good from this kind of decision making, land based casinos is a good venue to get good amount of taxes, knowing that gamblers are willing to take the risk even there's  virus that still spreading gamblers who are really addicted  will go and take the risk, what's important from here is to have a good action plan to prevent numbers of people to have mass gathering, limiting the numbers of gamblers and all the safety measures that needed to implement will help.
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It is really needed for them to re-open.This is a hard decision but they need to because it will surely collapse the entire economy if they would make such decisions.

PAGCOR will surely be approved since there are already countries which they had already re-opened the casinos which it isnt really a bad thing or IATF to consider on.

We know on how these places do generate income and even on the amidst of pandemic, we can really still see that theres still demand on it and yes it might not be the same on that normal day
we do know but at least they are slowly to keep up with the pace.



And I'm sure the government really put a lot of thinking on their decision here, but I would not say that the entire Philippine economy will collapse. But re-opening landbase casino will surely help ease the burden on government to generate money.

And there is really a demand for it, I can't confirmed by I talked to one taxi driver here, and he says that Solaire is already open because he had one customer who went to that casino. But it's like you have to schedule yourself before you can play. So it sort of cater more for VIP, if I'm not mistaken. Again, I don't know if this is true or not.

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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.
Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

Buying ticket for sweepstakes or lottery is just like ordering food in fast foods, if they will observed the social distancing, it should not create problem, so I believe that it will be re-open soon. According to the article shared above, they will gradually open businesses under PAGCOR so I think that approach is the right one.

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The question is, would the vaccine be cheap or can be attained/purchased by an average earner/ ordinary citizen? I have the doubts

that it wont really be that cheap.Lets hope that i would be wrong into that presumption and what matter most here is that vaccine should really be made asap

There supposed to be. You might want to read the article below that has been published just a few hours ago.

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"There is a clear, clear benefit," he said.

"The treatment is up to 10 days of dexamethasone and it costs about £5 per patient.

"So essentially it costs £35 to save a life.

"This is a drug that is globally available."
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

This is a great discovery to combat Covid19's disease. Days ago I had thought that the cure for the coronavirus could be from existing medications. Hopefully the countries of the world to consider applying this medical treatment to save more lives. And thus be able to resume economic activities of all countries.

Regarding PAGCOR, CEO Andrea D. Domingo has said that the Casino should reopen this month or in July due to the economic importance of being active again and that 132,000 industry employees depend on it. The government needs money to fight the coronavirus and to be able to buy the vaccine when it becomes available.

https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/

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The country is having financial problem now(actually much bigger now) so we need another source of income and that is gambling.

President Duterte is the best President Philippines ever had and within His power things will be at best.

So whatever He decides is i will surely support.



Personally?gambling may start now with High restriction In regards to Health protocol so the spread of virus will be prevented.









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June 21, 2020, 06:52:06 AM
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The country is having financial problem now(actually much bigger now) so we need another source of income and that is gambling.
Well, that's good as long as you are not treating it as your main source of income because I'm sure you knew how risky it is, right? If you want a more secure source of money then online selling would be the best option. At least you can be able to enjoy your hobbies (usually in cooking) and make profits at the same time Smiley.
President Duterte is the best President Philippines ever had and within His power things will be at best.

So whatever He decides is i will surely support.
No offense dude but in my point of view I'm very disappointed with his current performance. I'm pertaining to the lapses made by different bureaus of the government with regards on fighting the virus (especially DOH tsk). Technically speaking, that is subordinate's main fault, but even we turn the world upside down, he is the commander thus he is also responsible for all the mistakes they did. Another one, why he didn't order to remove Duque and Sinas on their line of duties despite of their huge mistakes? I can't believe it Undecided.
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Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 
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Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.

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No offense dude but in my point of view I'm very disappointed with his current performance. I'm pertaining to the lapses made by different bureaus of the government with regards on fighting the virus (especially DOH tsk). Technically speaking, that is subordinate's main fault, but even we turn the world upside down, he is the commander thus he is also responsible for all the mistakes they did. Another one, why he didn't order to remove Duque and Sinas on their line of duties despite of their huge mistakes? I can't believe it Undecided.

Since we are now in making a little segue from the talk of PAGCOR to the talk of some crypto enthusiasts dissatisfaction on Duterte's overall performance of the pandemic, I would like to ask the good fellow the sources of his dissatisfaction with the President. Many people in the society specially the middle class and high society have expressed dissatisfaction with the President, which rose considerably after the expiry of the franchise of a certain TV network I will not mention here. The president himself told the people to criticize all you want.

He mentioned “I govern properly and right. If it makes you happy, then you smile. If not, you criticize me,” and “Walang pigil, social media, lahat kayo (No one is preventing you from using social media. All of you),”  that statement from the President is for me already a sign that he is letting the dogs bark as much as they can and as long as they can as long as he knows he is doing his best to counter the pandemic.*

The issue with Sinas for me is somewhat trivial now as many people have forgiven (possibly not the right word, preferable to forgotten) the said act. The president even said that firing a person because some colleagues sang a birthday song and ate merienda is somewhat too much. If I add some politicking in this I would say the left is the one who wants Sinas' head.**

As for Duque, this has been an ongoing issue since April. Senator Dick Gordon*** even said that the fiasco Duque is experiencing right now might be a sign that someone else might obssessed in getting his position as Health Secretary that is why they are up in arms.

In spite what we see and hear in media, there is much more happening in Politics, Government, Economics, that we normies always miss and always doesn't know. It is really our leanings that would dictate if we pro or anti despite best efforts of the government.

So we go back to PAGCOR, yes? :-)

* - https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/04/06/2005798/people-unhappy-covid-response-free-criticize-duterte
** - https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/05/20/2015275/duterte-honest-sinas-stays-metro-manilas-top-cop-despite-controversial-birthday-party
*** - https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/gordon-thinks-people-are-after-duques-post-as-he-faces-ombudsman-probe/ar-BB15LZzu?li=BBr8Mkn

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They are, all the leaders are working very hard, from local barangay to Mayors up to the President. But it's about time to really open up this casinos to generate money and help build the economy of the country again.
Yes we need to establish our economy again by reopening the businesses and companies. Our government is lacking now for budget due to the expenses they spend to give the people relief goods and other medical needs for hospitals and frontliners. Officials must unite now for the sake of our country, the president cant do this alone he need the support of everyone.
Of course, no administration would be successful if people whom the president trust will not support him.
For me, this administration is better than the past administration and I am confident that wherever their decision, it would be for the best interest of the majority. There are Anti-Duterte and Pro-Duterte so have to expect we will hear some approval and disapproval on their decision as Anti-Duterte would only look at the bad side always and will not look at the overall effect of the decision.

No perfect president will come solve this problem but indeed this administration is far better then the past since  he handle this situation well and  we see the efforts as well the money come out to support our fellow countrymen, I just  wonder on  what will happen to us if  the past administration will handle this crisis? for sure majority will go hungry since corruption are rampant as well the other anomalies will came out, we already see it for the past calamity hit on tacloban and how they handle it

But I still doubt if gaming operators will comeback to open up their businesses as well the PCSO since for  sure the government will not allow anything that can create mass gathering.

I believe it will be reopen soon, they are just waiting for the right time, there's no government that would survive in this crisis if they will not fully open the economy and give way for big businesses to continue their operation, PAGCOR is making billions and we need that money to fund this very expensive war that we are at now. We will see next month, if the GCQ in Metro Manila will not be extended, then there's a good chance that operation will resume after months of being halted.
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Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.
When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.

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When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.

I think we are experiencing the opposite now, the number of positive cases is rapidly increasing yet, we are not in ECQ but placed in GCQ, the reason is that as long as keep ourselves secured, the economy is getting worse. Policies needed not to tighten up for people to continue go to work, and for establishments such as casinos to work. This is a big issue especially since some other businesses aren't allowed to operate but they are pushing casinos to open. It is not for the sake of having fun while in this situation but lots of employees in casinos need to work in order to buy necessities to live.
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I think we are experiencing the opposite now, the number of positive cases is rapidly increasing yet, we are not in ECQ but placed in GCQ, the reason is that as long as keep ourselves secured, the economy is getting worse. Policies needed not to tighten up for people to continue go to work, and for establishments such as casinos to work. This is a big issue especially since some other businesses aren't allowed to operate but they are pushing casinos to open. It is not for the sake of having fun while in this situation but lots of employees in casinos need to work in order to buy necessities to live.
And I think this is somewhat a crossroad between safety of everyone and keeping the economy from continuous downturn. I mean, the government doesn't want to have additional number of positive cases but they also don't want the citizens to starve to death. Same thing with an ordinary individual who wants to provide for his family. He doesn't want to be exposed outside since there's still a threat but he has to so he could put food on their table. This pandemic makes things even harder.

But since we cannot ignore the fact that we still have to survive from day to day, businesses should resume including land-based casinos for the sake of employees' income. So to ensure safety, minimum health requirements should be strictly implemented and followed, and it's effectivity and efficiency lies on the management and the employees themselves. 

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