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June 23, 2020, 03:32:20 AM
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Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.
When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.

That's why there is a protocol because it's purpose is to control the crowd, please don't expect that it will be the same scenario we will see in the past once PAGCOR will resume, just like other businesses, they have to adopt with the new normal.

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June 23, 2020, 03:37:32 AM
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I believe it will be reopen soon, they are just waiting for the right time, there's no government that would survive in this crisis if they will not fully open the economy and give way for big businesses to continue their operation, PAGCOR is making billions and we need that money to fund this very expensive war that we are at now. We will see next month, if the GCQ in Metro Manila will not be extended, then there's a good chance that operation will resume after months of being halted.
If the government can be wise, they will not force the casino to reopen their business, but they will ask the other business to start, especially with the business that related to people's life. That will be better if the other business can contribute to this pandemic because they can also help many people live, and they can start the economy in that country. But if the government still insists on reopening the gambling industry, they need to use the strict protocol to protect people.

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June 23, 2020, 03:54:05 AM
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That's why there is a protocol because it's purpose is to control the crowd, please don't expect that it will be the same scenario we will see in the past once PAGCOR will resume, just like other businesses, they have to adopt with the new normal.

Exactly, PAGCOR can't be remain in lock down while other industry are already operating.
The Philippines is not a rich country, considering the contribution of PAGCOR in our economy, it should be allowed to reopen its businesses.

The protocol is there and battle against corona virus is gonna be long, and we can't keep PAGCOR lock down that long.

 
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June 23, 2020, 07:21:33 AM
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I read the article about this also, it's dated June 8, 2020, don't know if it's the latest news but here's some important information I guess we should know.

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“We’re going to get on with it in June or at the very latest in July,” Domingo said, noting that the reopening of gambling centers in the country would benefit the industry’s 132,000 employees.

source : https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/

Therefore, if it's not possible to open this month, we can expect them by next month, probably in the 1st week or 2nd week.

I'm really concern about the huge number of employees who lost their job.

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June 23, 2020, 10:15:32 AM
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I believe it will be reopen soon, they are just waiting for the right time, there's no government that would survive in this crisis if they will not fully open the economy and give way for big businesses to continue their operation, PAGCOR is making billions and we need that money to fund this very expensive war that we are at now. We will see next month, if the GCQ in Metro Manila will not be extended, then there's a good chance that operation will resume after months of being halted.
If the government can be wise, they will not force the casino to reopen their business, but they will ask the other business to start, especially with the business that related to people's life. That will be better if the other business can contribute to this pandemic because they can also help many people live, and they can start the economy in that country. But if the government still insists on reopening the gambling industry, they need to use the strict protocol to protect people.

Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.

As you can see, that 132,000 employees are depending on casino, with that number of employees, it's also easy to determine how much PAGCOR is contributing to the economy, remember this is our own casino, the profit goes directly to the government which they can use to help people affected by the pandemic, especially those who are very poor or the poorest among the poor.

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“We’re going to get on with it in June or at the very latest in July,” Domingo said, noting that the reopening of gambling centers in the country would benefit the industry’s 132,000 employees.

source : https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/

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June 23, 2020, 10:34:56 AM
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It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
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June 23, 2020, 11:03:50 AM
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It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon.
There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.


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June 23, 2020, 11:10:14 AM
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It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon.
There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.
If the government will approve it, they also will ensure that they are monitoring the casinos properly. I think those who are under the strict monitoring of the government will be more safer, so if this would cause an addition to confirm cases, I believe they will not be the major contributor of it.

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June 23, 2020, 11:25:59 AM
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Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month. 

That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.

That's for updating us with the latest news.
When it comes to become in GCQ would still be in question if numbers of positives on daily basis do still remain in high values.We wont able to see a less-strict policy

specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but

government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.
Actually If Pagcor allows these gambling company to operates then this is not a government job to make this casino players be safe because it is operators and administrations obligation to make the health protocols going.

But i am sure that this will be allowed sooner because of the on going GCQ and starting to let life back top normal so more or less it won't take month before this will be awarded to the gambling operators.

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June 23, 2020, 11:54:03 AM
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In my opinion as long as running safety protocols properly there is no harm in reopening land-based casinos, anyway if we continue
quarantine the economy will continue to fall. As we know the vaccine has not been found, then do not know when this corona virus ends.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.

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June 23, 2020, 12:07:55 PM
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In my opinion as long as running safety protocols properly there is no harm in reopening land-based casinos, anyway if we continue
quarantine the economy will continue to fall.
You have a very good point, I've stated that in my posts above that we need this casino to resume so it will gain revenue.
We are talking of a billion pesos industry here, if we won't allow it to operate then we should not complain if the government won't be able to help its citizen in their needs. The issue here is the poor needs support, especially those who were unemployed because of the pandemic, do you think the government are just creating money from thin air to support these sectors?

Our agency like the SSS and DSWD, they provide funds to support those who are in need, that's billions of pesos of expenses from the government side. 


As we know the vaccine has not been found, then do not know when this corona virus ends.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.

It will not be available this year, there's no way we can wait for that.

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Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.

There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.

GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month.  

Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus

Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.

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June 23, 2020, 03:20:41 PM
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It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best  response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon.
There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.
If the government will approve it, they also will ensure that they are monitoring the casinos properly. I think those who are under the strict monitoring of the government will be more safer, so if this would cause an addition to confirm cases, I believe they will not be the major contributor of it.
They could be not by still they can contribute to the additional number of cases.
But I hope that I'm wrong with that part and each safety net will be applied by these opening establishments not just for one country but most of the countries that will go back in business together with their gambling sector.
Observing strict protocol and social distancing in all manner. And for sure they will use disinfectant for their machines everyday.


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June 23, 2020, 03:55:02 PM
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A quick update on reopening, PAGCOR chief says landbased casinos are now allowed to conduct dry-runs.

Some casinos outside Manila have been allowed to open. In an interview with Andrea Domingo, Head of PAGCOR. She said that casinos can start holding dry-runs which is a positive sign for the re-opening of the Casino.

Some Poker houses have begun to conduct the rapid tests for the coronavirus.

There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.

For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:



^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).



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Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus

Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.
Yup. As I've been saying before, our health facilities are way better now compared to two months ago and that can be seen with the increasing no. of recoveries. I'm guessing that the Government already accepted the fact that COVID-19 won't be eliminated anytime soon but they are probably more confident in our healthcare now in handling patients.

The Government has been very clear from the start that our economy cannot sustain a prolonged lockdown. Slowly opening businesses like land-based casinos is a good start for a slow economic recovery.
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June 23, 2020, 05:07:58 PM
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There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.
Pretty much, that's it then. We'll about to see some other things going back to "new normal" by the end of the month.

For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:

^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).
Yup, there is no face glass.
Either way, it just looks ridiculous and ain't classy for casino.

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June 23, 2020, 06:04:15 PM
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A quick update on reopening, PAGCOR chief says landbased casinos are now allowed to conduct dry-runs.

Some casinos outside Manila have been allowed to open. In an interview with Andrea Domingo, Head of PAGCOR. She said that casinos can start holding dry-runs which is a positive sign for the re-opening of the Casino.

Some Poker houses have begun to conduct the rapid tests for the coronavirus.

There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.

For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:

^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).


I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then

imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think

that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.


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Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus

Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.
Yup. As I've been saying before, our health facilities are way better now compared to two months ago and that can be seen with the increasing no. of recoveries. I'm guessing that the Government already accepted the fact that COVID-19 won't be eliminated anytime soon but they are probably more confident in our healthcare now in handling patients.

The Government has been very clear from the start that our economy cannot sustain a prolonged lockdown. Slowly opening businesses like land-based casinos is a good start for a slow economic recovery.

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It wont really sustain for too long thats why they do came up into this kind of decision.Its hard but wont have any choice or else it would completely shutdown its economy.

We have seen on how thing goes when other re-open these kind of business and somehow it do works.

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I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then

imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think

that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.
Don't take the image by what you see.
Of course, there's still another layer of precautionary measures to be implemented before you can enter the casino.
However, preventing the covid-19 spreading is impossible in some cases thus the risks involve is high making possible the impossible.

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June 23, 2020, 10:08:47 PM
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I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then

imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think

that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.
Don't take the image by what you see.
Of course, there's still another layer of precautionary measures to be implemented before you can enter the casino.
However, preventing the covid-19 spreading is impossible in some cases thus the risks involve is high making possible the impossible.
What are their measures?

Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.

Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.

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What are their measures?

Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.

Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.

More asymptomatic persons are surely on those essential establishments, not in the casinos. I don't see why should physical casinos be looked at as another reason for spread. It's not that once it was opened, there will be lots of gamblers that will play here, and again even it does, just follow the strict protocol. How it can become useless?

Since we are talking about new normal then facing the risks is part of it. Casinos might not be an essential and necessary establishment to be opened but we are talking about PAGCOR casinos here and it's no secret that PAGCOR plays a big role in the government. Let them squeezed money from those rich ones who aren't totally affected at all during the lockdown.

People will never understand the situation until they experienced being one of those who become unemployed because of the pandemic virus. Once casinos open, thousands of their employees will also come back to work, might be in a skeletal workforce. It's no different at all at those other establishments.

Stay optimistic. It's easy to say that these casinos shouldn't be opened but we must also look at the reasons why should they opened.

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June 23, 2020, 11:30:11 PM
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This will be a gradual process, I don't think all casino's will be open in a day. I think it will be the big one first in Manila for a test and then in other parts of the Philippines. And for the record, according to the protocols they have set, it will be no card/no entry policy. So it's not just everyone could enter and play pre-pandemic. In order of average gamblers, you have to show that you have this so called membership card before you can play. And I'm sure that they will stop accepting new membership during this pandemic to control the crowd. Fortunately for me, I have all membership cards in the big three (RW, COD, Solaire), however, I'm not interested to gamble because of health risk.

 
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