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July 30, 2020, 09:35:38 AM
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hi @cavo32

Yes we have started reaching out to different companies and organisations.
Countries we have access to include: Ukraine, Denmark, Pakistan.

Examples of businesses that can benefit from our proposition include full ecosystems that can develop an economic component (example: independent movie marketplaces, coffeeshop chains, e-commerce) or that have a solid community and are looking into deploying a transparent loyalty program. These are the immediate propositions.

Longterm, banking as a service, payment as a service, and finance sectors are the target. This depends on the health status of our network and how stable it is.

We are an open monetary system, at the end of the day, we depend on market validation and progress.

Since we are not a dApp platform, our competitors are mostly DAG based projects that focus on monetary solutions with non-mining non-staking consensus, the ones that focus and measure throughputs per second.

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For the part about edge over competitors:
We are not just building a protocol, we have a full tech stack (which btw we're open sourcing through monthly releases as we pen test it) that includes 3 patents, Tagion protocol with proprietary monetary currency and elastic supply, DEX protocol with fair price matching, API modules, wallet.

We have improved the governance by implementing a digital trust layer and a proof of community consensus.
Customers can customise, mimic, or use the main DART (distributed database) and governance model.

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DART distributed database explanation proof of Community and digital trust layer implementation explanation from senior developer Carsten Keutmann
https://forum.tagion.org/t/proof-of-community/78

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DEX protocol explanation in the 2nd part of this article, explaining fair price discovery.
https://forum.tagion.org/t/decentralized-exchanges-and-tagion-dex/85

Coming soon, article on elastic supply Smiley


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July 30, 2020, 11:21:07 PM
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hi @cavo32

Yes we have started reaching out to different companies and organisations.
Countries we have access to include: Ukraine, Denmark, Pakistan.

Examples of businesses that can benefit from our proposition include full ecosystems that can develop an economic component (example: independent movie marketplaces, coffeeshop chains, e-commerce) or that have a solid community and are looking into deploying a transparent loyalty program. These are the immediate propositions.

Longterm, banking as a service, payment as a service, and finance sectors are the target. This depends on the health status of our network and how stable it is.

We are an open monetary system, at the end of the day, we depend on market validation and progress.

Since we are not a dApp platform, our competitors are mostly DAG based projects that focus on monetary solutions with non-mining non-staking consensus, the ones that focus and measure throughputs per second.

-

For the part about edge over competitors:
We are not just building a protocol, we have a full tech stack (which btw we're open sourcing through monthly releases as we pen test it) that includes 3 patents, Tagion protocol with proprietary monetary currency and elastic supply, DEX protocol with fair price matching, API modules, wallet.

We have improved the governance by implementing a digital trust layer and a proof of community consensus.
Customers can customise, mimic, or use the main DART (distributed database) and governance model.

-

DART distributed database explanation proof of Community and digital trust layer implementation explanation from senior developer Carsten Keutmann
https://forum.tagion.org/t/proof-of-community/78

-
DEX protocol explanation in the 2nd part of this article, explaining fair price discovery.
https://forum.tagion.org/t/decentralized-exchanges-and-tagion-dex/85

Coming soon, article on elastic supply Smiley



Thank you very much for that elaborate answer. In my opinion, you need to reach out those businesses like those movie marketplaces, coffee shop chains, ecommerce in the first stage. Because if you will get at least couple of them to be on board, it will be a perfect example that your system will be beneficial to them. And if it really works on their side, they can easily endorse it to other businesses. Word of mouth is a powerful marketing tool.

Also, you've stated about 3 patents. And that shows that your project here is indeed sincere as you are going to the extent of filing patents. Very few projects can actually go to that route.

Looking forward to see company logos on your website that will be using your technology. I hope you will have long list for that. Because that will cement your existence in crypto community. The more companies deploying your network, the more valuable your platform is.
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July 31, 2020, 07:24:59 AM
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@cavo32

Thank's for the positive feedback. The first business we have reached out to are coffee shops - so we like your way of thinking Smiley
If you want to keep track of our project, please sign up for our forum: https://forum.tagion.org/ and our telegram group https://t.me/tagionChat.

 
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August 08, 2020, 06:11:14 PM
Last edit: August 10, 2020, 03:15:26 AM by criptix
 #44

Hey guys,

the Tagion Bounty Campaign is live!

Register fast and earn Tagion, BTC or any other currency of your choice!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267488.0

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August 09, 2020, 08:34:55 PM
 #45

Hey guys,

the Tagion Bounty Campaign is live!

Register fast and earn Tagion, BTC or any other currency of your choice!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0
It is hard to find a specific bounty post on the Bounty section. So it would be better if you directly link you bounty thread link on this post, so that people can directly visit your thread.
BTW a question: will the team contact with us after the deadline end for the application?

BTW found that the team is very active here in the forum answering all the questions from the community. Wish you a very good luck with the project. Will read the whitepaper when become free.
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Hey guys,

the Tagion Bounty Campaign is live!

Register fast and earn Tagion, BTC or any other currency of your choice!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0
It is hard to find a specific bounty post on the Bounty section. So it would be better if you directly link you bounty thread link on this post, so that people can directly visit your thread.
BTW a question: will the team contact with us after the deadline end for the application?

BTW found that the team is very active here in the forum answering all the questions from the community. Wish you a very good luck with the project. Will read the whitepaper when become free.


My bad, i copy pasted the wrong link!
I edited the post with the correct link now.

Yes indeed, the team is very active and is also doing AMA's every some weeks to answer everything the community wants to know Smiley

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August 10, 2020, 05:55:18 AM
 #47

Hey guys,

the Tagion Bounty Campaign is live!

Register fast and earn Tagion, BTC or any other currency of your choice!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267488.0
that's cool, i joined the tagion telegram, i signed up on this, let's see what's interesting about this project and i want to take a deeper look at the project, just waiting for them to reply and message me  Wink

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August 10, 2020, 06:43:39 AM
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Hey guys,

the Tagion Bounty Campaign is live!

Register fast and earn Tagion, BTC or any other currency of your choice!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267488.0
that's cool, i joined the tagion telegram, i signed up on this, let's see what's interesting about this project and i want to take a deeper look at the project, just waiting for them to reply and message me  Wink

Great to have you on board - we will make sure to contact you regarding the bounty hunt asap. But we take this seriously, so we are going through every application manually to ensure the integrity of our bounty hunst as well as possible.

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August 11, 2020, 06:41:20 AM
 #49

Hey guys,

the Tagion Bounty Campaign is live!

Register fast and earn Tagion, BTC or any other currency of your choice!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267488.0
that's cool, i joined the tagion telegram, i signed up on this, let's see what's interesting about this project and i want to take a deeper look at the project, just waiting for them to reply and message me  Wink

Great to have you on board - we will make sure to contact you regarding the bounty hunt asap. But we take this seriously, so we are going through every application manually to ensure the integrity of our bounty hunst as well as possible.

/tobias
Thank you for your response, but I will be waiting for the next news for manual selection and I am also happy if I can really be a part of your project, I am also still reading more about your project, cheers

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August 11, 2020, 10:43:57 AM
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No problem. We have been rather overwhelmed by the number of applications to be honest. But we will go through them as fast as possible.
All the best, and thanks for taking interest in Tagion.

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October 07, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
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Wondering how we structure data, what release cycle we are aiming for, or where we aim to start our next Tagion community? Here is your chance to get the answer to anything Tagion related.

On Thursday the 8th of October from 3 PM CET to 5 PM CET, we are hosting an- Ask Me Anything - session on Telegram.
 
To participate online, you need to sign up here at Eventbrite by following this link:
https://www.eventbrite.dk/e/tagion-ama-ask-me-anything-tickets-123159935683
 
For your convenience, we will also provide you with a write-up of the whole AMA sessions.
Find this on forum.tagion.org once done Wink
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Wondering how we structure data, what release cycle we are aiming for, or where we aim to start our next Tagion community? Here is your chance to get the answer to anything Tagion related.

On Thursday the 8th of October from 3 PM CET to 5 PM CET, we are hosting an- Ask Me Anything - session on Telegram.
 
To participate online, you need to sign up here at Eventbrite by following this link:
https://www.eventbrite.dk/e/tagion-ama-ask-me-anything-tickets-123159935683
 
For your convenience, we will also provide you with a write-up of the whole AMA sessions.
Find this on forum.tagion.org once done Wink

Great stuff, will definitely join and check out the AMA. Smiley


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Hope you enjoyed the AMA. I will make to post a link to the write up once it is done Smiley

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Hope you enjoyed the AMA. I will make to post a link to the write up once it is done Smiley

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i joined and saw the AMA yesterday, so I found a lot of great things said there, I want to see more about this project in the future, I am waiting for some updates to come soon from this project

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October 09, 2020, 07:35:43 AM
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That sounds great. We will make it our priority to keep you guy's on Bitcointalk posted as well.

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We have run tests for the Tagion network and saw that we can achieve 20,000 throughputs per second, at a speed of 3-5 seconds.

The Visa network achieves max 65,000 throughputs per second, at speed of 1-3 seconds.


Tagion network may be on track to hit that number of throughputs. U can rightfully assume that it is capable of doing even more. But for this to make sense, there should be a user base onto it transacting actively. Which I do not see happening for a simple albeit unpleasant reason: people do not care and pay no respect to Tagion network because this noob network is not even on anybodys radars.
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We have run tests for the Tagion network and saw that we can achieve 20,000 throughputs per second, at a speed of 3-5 seconds.

The Visa network achieves max 65,000 throughputs per second, at speed of 1-3 seconds.


Tagion network may be on track to hit that number of throughputs. U can rightfully assume that it is capable of doing even more. But for this to make sense, there should be a user base onto it transacting actively. Which I do not see happening for a simple albeit unpleasant reason: people do not care and pay no respect to Tagion network because this noob network is not even on anybodys radars.

dont assume that they will be forever noob network and that nobody even care to check out on them. every popular network starts from nothing. looking at their whitepaper, they made effort to make a comprehensive paper. much better than most actually.
 the throughput rate will only be tested in actual scenario, i agree with that. but lets give them the chance to show their capability. not many projects can enforce their goals according to their timeline. and it takes time to attract users. if they will be in operations for more than couple of years, and still they can't manage to get enough users, then maybe the tagion team should re-assess their business tactics

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October 12, 2020, 06:41:09 AM
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Thanks for the support @amorejaz. We certenly don't plan on staying a start-up project, having released our AlphaOne Test Network already, we are working towards AplhaTwo and also have a track for the first applications that are build on top of Tagion.

Having set that @Ive Gone Parabolic has a good point, and we need to work hard to get peoples attention. We might end up having the best network in the world from a technical view, but a super cool network with very few nodes is not worth much Wink So, we are also trying to gain more attention and traction. Any help in that regard is appreciated Wink

Where would you recommend we spent more time telling about Tagion?

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We have run tests for the Tagion network and saw that we can achieve 20,000 throughputs per second, at a speed of 3-5 seconds.

The Visa network achieves max 65,000 throughputs per second, at speed of 1-3 seconds.


Tagion network may be on track to hit that number of throughputs. U can rightfully assume that it is capable of doing even more. But for this to make sense, there should be a user base onto it transacting actively. Which I do not see happening for a simple albeit unpleasant reason: people do not care and pay no respect to Tagion network because this noob network is not even on anybody's radars.

Good point - and that is why we need more attention around the network. Tagion might be super fast, but also super useless if there are no nodes on the network Wink
We have started a bounty hunter program and are on track to gain more traction - but we would appreciate any help we could get in making Tagion more of a household name.

Any way we could get you involved?

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I'll comment on your marketing.

Marketing via ambassify won't get enough viewers due to poor detection, the system is unable to ascertain whether the task is actually being done, whether your social media posts are actually being shared by participants. Points are added automatically by just clicking the link provided and then closing the new tab that appears.

I've followed your bounty on the ambassify platform. I found some bugs that you may not have thought about. I sent bounty feedback on one of your assignments in the 1st round on this issue, I don't know if you actually read every fedback that was sent on that assignment.

After 2nd round, I noticed that the bug hasn't been fixed, I announced it publicly in your telegram group and I'm surprised that you think it's not a bug (you think that the point I got from the task that hasnt been completed). Then I proved it by increasing points without getting new assignments. And at that time, my point was made back to the beginning. Since then I decided to quit your bounty program and stop supporting this project. Actually there were several PMs from other participants who asked how I got the points briefly but I didn't tell him because it will be more busy for you later because he clears the cheating participants.

I just summed up this with a confused mind that:
you're too confident that your system is good, but its not good enough.
You haven't thought about giving the bug hunter anything more valuable than disappointing him.
With a policy like this, other bug hunters (hereafter) won't bother telling you because they know they won't be valued.

I hope your marketing system will be changed to the manual way soon.
Good luck with this project.

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