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June 05, 2020, 07:19:25 PM
Last edit: June 06, 2020, 10:19:34 PM by LoyceV
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I stumbled upon WTB - Netflix trial 1 month ( need many), where user SupremosKaiosama had deleted his posts.
OP claims he was scammed, and SupremosKaiosama has "untrusted" negative feedback from 4 different users. There's no direct evidence, but removing his posts after posting his Telegram username doesn't look good either.
I'll use this topic for a neutral Reference tag.

If anyone wants to dig deeper, see all unedited (or deleted) posts made by SupremosKaiosama.

Update:
Yep, its Humbertin
A known scammer.

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June 06, 2020, 01:03:37 AM
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You don't need to dig in to this to figure out whose alt this is.

This post reference should say all:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248157.msg54468108#msg54468108

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June 06, 2020, 08:48:54 AM
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Looks like good old scammer Humbertin19_ indeed:
Hello I am Humb
But I'm not comfortable giving him a red tag for this, there's still a change it's someone else using a similar name.

I'm surprised there are still people who trust Newbies with funds!

This scam deserves a warning:
Then he said paypal got bla bla bla and ask me to dispute

Then ask me again to close the case
First time I hear about this scam. It seems to happen quite often:
NEVER close a dispute until you have a cleared refund or your item.

 You CANNOT re-open a closed dispute. Scam seller often say to close it so they can refund you and then when you do so you never hear from them again. You then find that you can't open another dispute for the same transaction.

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Looks like good old scammer Humbertin19_ indeed.

Hmm. Very likely with this post as well:

Hello i have neteller colombia friend

and here is a post from Timelord2067 talking about Humbertin being from somehwere in Colombia or Ecuador.


Anyway found out one connection linked with scammer here:

I have 4 accounts verified

franklinma81s@gmail.com

(Archive: http://archive.is/UkBkw)


(Archive: http://archive.vn/CJPWm)

Trust profile of TimesSquareNY: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2589532 (filled up with all likely alt of scammer : Humbertin feedbacks)



Yep, its Humbertin
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June 06, 2020, 04:30:58 PM
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I want to add something. Since I have run the blackjack.fun signature campaign and contest, Sometimes I visit the site for playing/other reasons. And sometimes I saw the user Hello I am Humb/SupremosKaiosama are trolling on the chatbox unnecessarily. that looks like very shady things.

So the proofs here and the chatbox trolling(that I have seen) helps me to believe easily this user is not trustworthy.

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Tagged and I created flag against this scammer, if anyone wants to support it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1967

@LoyceV, can you update topic with "Humb" thingy? Technicalities for flag....
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July 07, 2020, 02:30:13 PM
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Username Hello I am Humb
My winning amount: 0.00915 BTC


Username Hello I am Humb
Deposited 0.002 btc
Withdraw winning: 0.014 btc

1. http://archive.fo/wip/kGnSw
2. http://archive.fo/7e1IO

Another account of  SupremosKaiosama. The user first tried to cheat the blackjack.fun winning contest with the fake winning amount. And now he comes again with another bitcointalk account PIBWORLD (though the winning amount is correct this time)

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He always kinda pull of these kind of things: abusing promotional activities, taking and defaulting on loans, scamming newbies with some fake keys or digital goods he doesn't have.

Good one @sujonali1819, gonna go ahead and add a feedback. Thanks for reporting.
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Last edit: December 15, 2020, 04:13:13 AM by Timelord2067
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*edited* due to unfolding events.

Less than 24 hours ago I stumbled upon this thread and added

Code:
Hello I am Humb

to my list of "bad words" in LoyceV's [Active] Finding spam and scams by keyword thread.

Within a day blackjack.fun had posted the following, but when they presented their evidence, it became less likely there was a connection due to inconsistancies in blackjack.fun's "evidence"

Note: Post truncated.

We have a protection for alternative account. If the system will find the alternative account then it lets me know.

System told me that Webtricks=Hello I am Humb

I can share part of the info of both accounts. I cant share more because we have different ways to protect against alternative accounts and I will not share any personal information.

...

It was very interesting discovery. That one person can have very different reputation in bitcointalk.
Vary sad to see complain that I didnt give extra 1mbtc from good will after this.

We continue with honesty no matter what.


blackjack.fun is claiming to be able to provide more proof after the 17th of December.

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... and given various humbertin alts are banned, SupremosKaiosama, PIBWORLD, TimesSquareNY and webtricks are also guilty of ban evasion.

Who do you think you are? Some kind of almighty sitting here judging other forum members' fate?

Let me get the facts straight first: You turned on notification for 'Hello I am Humb' keyword and someone posted 'Webtricks=Hello I am Humb' (I really hate when someone writes webtricks with 'w' in uppercase). You thought you got the hit, exclaimed 'Eureka' in your mind and rushed forward to give me the red trust and reported me for ban evasion. What a "responsible member" of Bitcointalk community you are, I really envy you.

Now coming back to the topic, did you even read the Blackjack.fun thread before posting here the findings? I guess not because if you read, you knew that I am the one who's accusing Blackjack for irrational banning. In the defense, Blackjack.fun's admin provided evidence that I am using same browser and screen resolution as the other user! Yeah right! Alt accusation because I am using same browser and resolution, lol. Do you think as the "responsible member" of the community that this is enough for giving red trust? Didn't you think it would be wise to wait for my reply in the thread or wait for admin to provide more evidence? Nope, how could you! You had to do what "responsible member" of the community should do in such situation, isn't it?

I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback but I think you deserve at least neutral feedback for coming up with this shit and wasting my time. And since you aren't DT1/DT2 why the hell do I see your red trust as default, who in my trust list thinks you are worthy to trust with such feedbacks, is it Vod? @LoyceV, here's an idea for another tool: what about a tool which tells you who in your trust list trusts/distrusts a particular user, what you say?
Nevermind, congratulations for becoming the first entry in my distrust list. To use forum on positive note, I had decided to try to keep those two distrust columns empty but not everyday is Sunday and you have to deal with the situations like this.

PS: I hope you would understand the average sarcasm I used at places in the post. And you are welcome to give me another red trust for being sarcastic.

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December 12, 2020, 06:07:24 PM
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System told me that Webtricks=Hello I am Humb
System is probably wrong. The evidence isn't very convincing:
Hello I am Humb:
"timezone": 5,
  "browserLanguage": "es-US",

Webtricks:
  "timezone": -5.5,
  "browserLanguage": "en-US",

I've "known" Humbertin for years, from my time as a chat Mod on Rollin. He's quite a character: he's sometimes funny, has terrible English, cries as hard for losing 1mBTC as for losing 18BTC, takes debts to gamble, rains 2BTC to get unbanned from chat when he's winning, and cheats to gamble whenever he's out of money.
I've seen webtricks on Bitcointalk, he's skilled, has good English, and is nothing like Humbertin. I've countered Timelord2067's non-DT feedback with a neutral comment from my non-DT Mobile account.

I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback but I think you deserve at least neutral feedback
I wouldn't call neutral feedback retaliatory, I'd say it's proper feedback usage by not responding with negative feedback.

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And since you aren't DT1/DT2 why the hell do I see your red trust as default, who in my trust list thinks you are worthy to trust with such feedbacks, is it Vod? @LoyceV, here's an idea for another tool: what about a tool which tells you who in your trust list trusts/distrusts a particular user, what you say?
My Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users (which I haven't updated since May) explains the large recursive implications of a custom Trust list.

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I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback but I think you deserve at least neutral feedback
I wouldn't call neutral feedback retaliatory, I'd say it's proper feedback usage by not responding with negative feedback.

Whist overlooking the retaliatory DT distrust?




Yeh, that's what humbertin does, goes on a retaliatory distrust feedback spree - this time it's retaliatory DT.  A gambling website is protecting it's own financial interest by exposing scammers, but I'm the one being attacked?  I still remember that time DavidXXXX had the DT1 Trolls eating out the palm of their hands convincing everyone that they weren't an alt of Humbertin, then went on to scam. (Had a look, can't find it) Nothing changes.

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Whist overlooking the retaliatory DT distrust?
I don't necessarily consider excluding someone from a Trust list retaliatory. In this case: you made a bad judgement call, so he doesn't Trust your judgement.
Have you looked at the red bold part in my quote above? That's what's used to "prove" they're alts!

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Yeh, that's what humbertin does, goes on a retaliatory distrust feedback spree - this time it's retaliatory DT.
I haven't seen Humbertin use a Trust list before, do you have a link that shows it?

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A gambling website is protecting it's own financial interest by exposing scammers, but I'm the one being attacked?
I wouldn't call this attacking you. At least it wasn't my intention.
I pointed out their flawed evidence in their gambling thread.

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I still remember that time DavidXXXX had the DT1 Trolls eating out the palm of their hands convincing everyone that they weren't an alt of Humbertin
Can you post a link? I'd like to read up.

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System is probably wrong. The evidence isn't very convincing:

Even the parts that match are quite questionable:

The thing is... the resolution is a lot more common than it seems - it's a 125% scale of 1080p, not an unusual thing to do on e.g. a laptop. The user agent is obviously vanilla latest version of Chrome on Windows 10.

  "browserVersion1b": "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/87.0.4280.88 Safari/537.36",
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  "sizeScreenH": 864,

Basically anyone with the latest version of Chrome on a smallish laptop would be Humbertin according to blackjack.fun and Timelord2067. Ludicrous.
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I still remember that time DavidXXXX had the DT1 Trolls eating out the palm of their hands convincing everyone that they weren't an alt of Humbertin
Can you post a link? I'd like to read up.

Sure, give me a minute.




While we're twiddling our thumbs, let's look at something.

System is probably wrong. The evidence isn't very convincing:
Hello I am Humb:
"timezone": 5,
  "browserLanguage": "es-US",

Webtricks:
  "timezone": -5.5,
  "browserLanguage": "en-US",

UTC−05:00  takes in Colombia (which has been established as being Humbertin's point of origin) and Ecuador.  (or are people going to say it's UTC+05:00 which takes in Pakistan  Roll Eyes )

There is no time zone -5.5  -  Why would Webtricks have a time zone that doesn't exist?



See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:UTC_offsets




A couple of mouse clicks can change a browser's spell checker (especially for someone as LoyceV points out has bad grammar) and then when they use their Humbertin alt revert back to their native Spanish??

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UTC−05:00  takes in Colombia (which has been established as being Humbertin's point of origin) and Ecuador.  (or are people going to say it's UTC+05:00 which takes in Pakistan  Roll Eyes )
Since you claim that this guy Humbertin is from Colombia, isn't that the evidence  that webtricks and him are not the same person? I see that webtricks is active in Indian local board and has few posts in Hindi.

Somehow I doubt that webtricks is writing there since 2017 as a part of the disguise.

edit: @webtricks apologies, corrected.

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UTC−05:00  takes in Colombia (which has been established as being Humbertin's point of origin) and Ecuador.  (or are people going to say it's UTC+05:00 which takes in Pakistan  Roll Eyes )

There is no time zone -5.5  -  Why would Webtricks have a time zone that doesn't exist?


You still trying hard, aren't you? Okay, so to disappoint you again, logs blackjack.fun provided calculate timezone using this formula: (UTC - User's Local Time). Humbertin as you pointed is from Colombia so his timezone is showing +5 (although it should have been -05:00). Whereas, I am from India so my timezone is showing -5.5 (although it should have been +05:30).

And can you stop this shit until blackjack.fun admin provides so-called personal information evidence (which I am sure was his shot in the dark) so I can conclude this matter. I am giving him benefit of doubt for another day to reasonably explain the ban and credit me additional 1 mBTC as promised (so I can request a withdrawal from the site).



Since you claim that this guy Humbertin is from Colombia, isn't that evidence that webtricks and him are not the same persons? I see that webtricks is active in Indian local board and has few posts in Hindu.

Somehow I doubt that webtricks is writing there since 2017 as a part of the disguise.

The language is called 'Hindi, not 'Hindu' but yeah, you are absolutely correct.

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I'm not the one making the assertion they are connected.

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Your attempt to further intimidate me has been noted.

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Timelord2067    2020-12-13    Reference    This user has used retaliatory DT distrust against myself which I find untrustworthy and would not trade with this user as a result. (Delete)

Timelord2067    2020-12-13    Reference    blackjack.fun on 2020-12-12, 20:42:10 has made an assertion that webtricks is an alt of Humbertin / DavidXXXX / ser1ck / lokos1913a etc - Chronic gambler & scammer (and ban evasion). https://archive.vn/nAaEg#selection-5187.0-5187.45 (Delete)

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I'm not the one making the assertion they are connected.


You are not, although you posted their trust list and gave them a neutral feedback for the same, without knowing any solid evidence other than webtricks having same browser screen size as the other player ( that's a funny way to handle alts by blackjack.fun indeed )


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Your attempt to further intimidate me has been noted.

Trust feedback has been updated:

Timelord2067    2020-12-13    Reference    This user has used retaliatory DT distrust against myself which I find untrustworthy and would not trade with this user as a result. (Delete)

I don't even think the above red feedback is valid as giving a retaliatory DT distrust to someone after you are personally accused by him without any evidence is acceptable. Anyway, I think you both should sort this out like a man ! ( Side Note : webtricks is more friendly and open minded overall, FYI )
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You are not, although you posted their trust list and gave them a neutral feedback for the same, without knowing any solid evidence other than Webtricks having same browser screen size as the other player ( that's a funny way to handle alts by blackjack.fun indeed )

My reliance on a gambling site placing their reputation on the line when they (not I) made the assertion that two accounts were connected won't be repeated given blackjack.fun now appears to be back peddling from their follow-up assertion that they have secret proof of a connection between the two.

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I don't even think the above red feedback is valid as giving a retaliatory DT distrust to someone after you are personally accused by him without any evidence is acceptable. Anyway, I think you both should sort this out like a man ! ( Side Note : webtricks is more friendly and open minded overall, FYI )

I've always clarified or corrected posts.  Instead of sitting down to discus this "like a man" Webtricks first action by their own admission was to retaliatory DT distrust me - i.e. shoot first then ask questions later.  Archive [1a] [1b]

This is their first post:

I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback but I think you ...

Nevermind, congratulations for becoming the first entry in my distrust list.

Clear case of (self admitted) retaliatory DT distrust by Webtricks against myself.
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I've always been able to have good conversations with you, so you tell me: Would it sit more comfortably with you if my trust feedback of Webtricks were NEUTRAL instead of negative in that I would not trust this person to do a trade with?

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