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June 05, 2020, 07:45:30 PM Last edit: June 07, 2020, 04:51:50 PM by CryptographyKid |
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Designing a logo for a new decade of adoption.as a tech learner and bitcoin lover, I must say this project is truly a history being made. however, wide adoption requires appeal. and as much as I love the logo dating to 2010 by bitboy, I truly think we should use something more... modern.the current logo looks very iconic, however, after asking enough people I'm afraid to the everyday user it just strikes as too techo-like, too unfriendly and complicated. the internet became what it is today because solutions made it friendlier, more elegant, and appealing to the average user. so I decided to craft a logo I deem future proof, ready for the next decade of wide adoption: Yall gotta give it a chance ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) : https://imgur.com/a/Eqa8DrhSVGs : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/96twu5u631a0khk/AAAHWijDKo3ERTi7ZJmQ7Zcma?dl=0looking iconic and new at the same time. this is the evolution I want for bitcoin. (referring to the orange design, the white one is just a cool addition) I added some friendly - modern, easy to notice merchant stickers. thank you all for you attention! I didn't have the chance to be an early adopter cuz I'm a young zoomer any satoshi would be a life-changer: 1LhifYozpcrPdt9mw1aCkAcD4ULeB7Ad4r long live bitcoin BTC
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Hi OP , marketing companies love to tweak designs of well known brands , but to be perfectly honest Bitcoin is a relatively new project and to change the design now would be quite insane ! The logo works perfectly for the moment ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why change something in its infancy ( sorry) for the sake of change ? When a logo is established , unless there is something fundamentally wrong with the organisation or logo , promote , promote and promote! On a currency side of things - change the Colombian peso logo first ! It will be gone soon anyway ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Hi OP , marketing companies love to tweak designs of well known brands , but to be perfectly honest Bitcoin is a relatively new project and to change the design now would be quite insane ! The logo works perfectly for the moment ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why change something in its infancy ( sorry) for the sake of change ? When a logo is established , unless there is something fundamentally wrong with the organisation or logo , promote , promote and promote! On a currency side of things - change the Colombian peso logo first ! It will be gone soon anyway ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I can definitely see what you're saying, however it just so seemed right to me in 2020, as things are taking off for the new decade, especially after a tough economic situation, I just so though it might be a time for a friendly revamp ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) , since BTC aims to be the currency used around the globe, simplicity & trust is at core - so making a symbol relevant seemed kinda important. a decade has passed since the last BitBoy design and BTC is no longer as small as it once was, therefore I came with this design. a simple logo - for a simple currency that can withstand the future appealing to the everyday person. as for the colombian Peso - well... it's just a fiat, it's not a virtual payment system that aims for wide adoption ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) so it doesn't seek global relevance ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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I agree that a logo should get updated once in a while, but I don't think designing a 'future proof' logo is possible. Your options look nice, but I don't like that they don't have these serifs or how to call them on the letter B at the top and at the bottom. You cannot change the basics, Bitcoin symbol without serifs is very unlikely to become widely recognized and accepted. I believe that logos tend to preserve the basis even when they do change. And to be honest, I'm not sure Bitcoin needs a cool logo because it's not a company. The $ symbol doesn't change with time, and perhaps neither should BTC.
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I agree that a logo should get updated once in a while, but I don't think designing a 'future proof' logo is possible. Your options look nice, but I don't like that they don't have these serifs or how to call them on the letter B at the top and at the bottom. You cannot change the basics, Bitcoin symbol without serifs is very unlikely to become widely recognized and accepted. I believe that logos tend to preserve the basis even when they do change. And to be honest, I'm not sure Bitcoin needs a cool logo because it's not a company. The $ symbol doesn't change with time, and perhaps neither should BTC.
owned up to the honest criticism. thank you! Updated the old design to match the BTC spirit https://imgur.com/a/Eqa8Drh
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June 06, 2020, 03:58:22 PM Last edit: June 09, 2020, 09:52:16 AM by hugeblack |
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What is the fundamental difference in the logo? It is the same idea with a change in color and omission in the figure In fact, the Bitcoin logo was not the same in the early days. Several years ago, Bitcoin was not BTC, BC check this ----> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_clientDoing the update will not change much unless the community adopts it.
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June 06, 2020, 04:02:00 PM |
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I agree that a logo should get updated once in a while, but I don't think designing a 'future proof' logo is possible. Your options look nice, but I don't like that they don't have these serifs or how to call them on the letter B at the top and at the bottom. You cannot change the basics, Bitcoin symbol without serifs is very unlikely to become widely recognized and accepted. I believe that logos tend to preserve the basis even when they do change. And to be honest, I'm not sure Bitcoin needs a cool logo because it's not a company. The $ symbol doesn't change with time, and perhaps neither should BTC.
owned up to the honest criticism. thank you! Updated the old design to match the BTC spirit https://imgur.com/a/Eqa8DrhI do not think this is the right time to update the logo. I think it would be too early to make any changes. It has only been a decade and it should take another to properly make every single human being living on earth to understand and adopt Bitcoin. Changing the logo now will simply mean changing its identity and existence. We should wait for few more years before coming out with a new one. Bitcoin resemble power and control for everyone we should first try to promote the cause, rather thinking about the symbol.
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What is the fundamental difference in the logo? It is the same idea with a change in color and omission in the figure
well it's not a night and day difference, but its smoother and little simplified, it follows a more modern graphic approach - and while this is not a huge change, in the long term I believe it could set a great first impression for user adoption, remember - we want this logo slapped on merchant - websites - apps. it needs to look friendly..
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I appreciate your initiative, but my opinion is that we should stick with the original one. We don't want to make many changes because that could end up looking like a fork or something. Moreover people generally are looking for stability and not for change. It is already hard enough to make the conservators use cryptocurrencies.
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June 06, 2020, 08:05:46 PM Last edit: June 06, 2020, 08:19:36 PM by CryptographyKid |
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I appreciate your initiative, but my opinion is that we should stick with the original one. We don't want to make many changes because that could end up looking like a fork or something. Moreover people generally are looking for stability and not for change. It is already hard enough to make the conservators use cryptocurrencies.
I believe you pointed out something very important - the conservators you mentioned are most people on this planet. BTC is a movement, but it should scale up, every movement wants to scale. the only way to do so is making BTC friendly. as much as I love BTC lets face it - it intimidates the average user. this logo is just friendlier. friendlier stickers, friendlier glyphs. small details matter. the internet was intimidating at first. pay attention - the internet made it because things began to be less scary. at first browsers became simpler to the average user - then google made it simpler. same goes for PCs. that's the tech curve. NOT JUST TECH - TRUST. Ive seen so many jokes and skits about people not knowing what BTC is and thats unfortunate. I fear we would not make great leaps for bitcoin unless we create a friendlier impression. Thanks for coming to my TED talk
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Officially, no. Your designs could very well be used by merchants who wish to, but the original logo should remain as is. There is an unicode character for BTC, its ₿. It took nearly a decade to appear, changing it is not an option. This is exactly like the dollar symbol $, there are countless styles out there, but its officially the same. Same as £, €, ¥, etc...
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Officially, no. Your designs could very well be used by merchants who wish to, but the original logo should remain as is. There is an unicode character for BTC, its ₿. It took nearly a decade to appear, changing it is not an option. This is exactly like the dollar symbol $, there are countless styles out there, but its officially the same. Same as £, €, ¥, etc... welp, there's a similiar unicode to my symbol, Thai baht ฿. also - ₿ is used only by the community. nobody else uses it, it's still not a popular unicode, not like $, or €. the bitcoin logo started as BC by nakamoto in 2009, evolution happened, things changed. the dollar used to be the spanish dollar - besides, bitcoin is digital. it's been 10 years since the last design. 10 YEARS. its 2020. my point - simplifying and adapting is the path to adoption. really, the community would only benefit from a minimal change like this.
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Sorry for my opinion,but your logo kinda sucks.The current Bitcoin logo is awesome.Why should we have to change it? I don't like yellow and light orange,the logo looks too oversimplified and I don't understand why the Bitcoin symbol isn't straight.It seems to me that you don't have enough experience with logo design.What software and tools are you currently using?Keep practicing and you will get better. This logo isn't "futureproof" or "wide-adoption".You can't boost the adoption of Bitcoin by simply changing the Bitcoin logo. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I am open to changes if there is a need for it and if the change can really be making a big difference. We should not be changing anything just for the sake of change itself but there must be big and rational reasons behind it. As far as Bitcoin is concern, I don't think we have any problem with the existing symbol, hence I am not seeing any urgent need to change it anytime. Maybe 10 years from now, the symbol can be ready for some overhaul but not now. I still have to hear anybody saying NO to Bitcoin based on its symbol. However, I do appreciate your effort and concern.
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I cant find big difirencec between default logo and this one. Why we should use your picture?
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June 07, 2020, 07:57:19 AM |
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I agree that a logo should get updated once in a while, but I don't think designing a 'future proof' logo is possible. Your options look nice, but I don't like that they don't have these serifs or how to call them on the letter B at the top and at the bottom. You cannot change the basics, Bitcoin symbol without serifs is very unlikely to become widely recognized and accepted. I believe that logos tend to preserve the basis even when they do change. And to be honest, I'm not sure Bitcoin needs a cool logo because it's not a company. The $ symbol doesn't change with time, and perhaps neither should BTC.
owned up to the honest criticism. thank you! Updated the old design to match the BTC spirit https://imgur.com/a/Eqa8DrhThat's better! But if we're being precise, Bitcoin actually has double serifs at the top and at the bottom, and changing that to one serif thing is also quite a serious change. And it makes it look more like dollar, I suppose. I agree that a logo should get updated once in a while, but I don't think designing a 'future proof' logo is possible. Your options look nice, but I don't like that they don't have these serifs or how to call them on the letter B at the top and at the bottom. You cannot change the basics, Bitcoin symbol without serifs is very unlikely to become widely recognized and accepted. I believe that logos tend to preserve the basis even when they do change. And to be honest, I'm not sure Bitcoin needs a cool logo because it's not a company. The $ symbol doesn't change with time, and perhaps neither should BTC.
owned up to the honest criticism. thank you! Updated the old design to match the BTC spirit https://imgur.com/a/Eqa8DrhI do not think this is the right time to update the logo. I think it would be too early to make any changes. It has only been a decade and it should take another to properly make every single human being living on earth to understand and adopt Bitcoin. Changing the logo now will simply mean changing its identity and existence. We should wait for few more years before coming out with a new one. Bitcoin resemble power and control for everyone we should first try to promote the cause, rather thinking about the symbol. I think that changing the basic symbol (₿) is probably a bad idea. It should be a 'B' with double serifs at the top and at the bottom. This is what makes Bitcoin recognizable. However, playing with the font, color and background is nothing bad. Perhaps a more appealing logo could indeed attract new users, especially the younger generation. Not changing things is something zoomers might have a problem with. They are accustomed to fast-changing images in a fast-changing world, so taking this into account is also important. The dollar symbol never changes, but while dollar represents tradition and conservation, Bitcoin represents innovation.
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June 07, 2020, 08:16:07 AM Last edit: June 07, 2020, 09:32:40 AM by franky1 |
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the double line though the B is bitcoin single line is the thai baht
we dealt with this years ago to not try getting close to the thai baht symbol as it would cause more confusion the current BTC is good enough
if anything could be developed.. people thought about the sub unit of bits(100 sats) having its own custom symbol for instance Ъ or Ҍ
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June 07, 2020, 09:02:07 AM |
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We don't need another logo for bitcoin because the current one is perfect. It is simple, representative and has been deeply engraved in our mind.
I am sorry if I am make you disappointed but no need for another Bitcoin logo. There is no need for Bitcoin forks, none of them.
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June 07, 2020, 10:31:07 AM |
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Just leave it as an iconic one just as you said but where did you find and survey people that it's too techno, unfriendly and complicated, anything that could back up your statements? I love the initiative you made but even if surveyed whole forum I am positive they'll still love the design that still right now deemed as a classic one.
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June 07, 2020, 10:42:30 AM |
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I cant find big difirencec between default logo and this one. Why we should use your picture?
Because he wants to see himself as the "designer". It's something as trivial as color but it makes it his design and he can add Bitcoin logo to his portfolio, even though hich "change" could have been done in mspaint by a 10 year old. Usually if we change something it's meant to bring some benefits but is there really an improvement here? OP said it's going to look more modern. Really? You can use any background you want with the BTC sign without having to tag it with your name.
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