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Bonjour, community. I have quite big experience with Bounty since 2016. It's not only participation, but also creation and managing. And I was always asking my self since 2017 end same question. Why the hell project managers prefer bounty rather than just buying cheap likes, views, followers / subs, comments, saves etc? From my understanding, bounty hunters are not the community of the project they work with. ALl they want to do is to run away with BTC after they sell their tokens.
At the same time, when you buy likes and other stuff, it has many advantages: 1) you do not give tokens to the ones who don't need them 2) buying activities will cost you $ cents 3) the "smart" purchase of likes, views and followers can push you to the social media top (youtube, instagram etc)
And yes, as an example, you may find YouTube views for 10$ per 1,000 views, but it is an insane price. It costs around 1$-2$ normally.
If you were ICO,IEO founder, what would you choose?
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LOL, how can do you think buying likes, views and followers is good for the project? You should know, likes and followers you buyed from someone is not always a real person, probably a bots. Since bounty program is aiming to attract investors for invest in their project. How can a bots will invest in their project? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Also bounty program is doesn't require any cost to start distribution (free), this is why many project can easily start a bounty program. You don't need any budget for it, it's different if you buy followers, likes or pay with valuable coins.
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June 06, 2020, 04:43:29 PM |
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Am sure project owners are aware of buying fake likes, views, followers etc but they still opt for bounty, And if you look at it, the YouTube campaign requires participants to make their own videos sometimes in native language translated in English, you can't buy that. Social media on the other hand also requires participants to share and like on their own soc med page which means wider audience instead of just liking the page of the project and that's it, This are my thoughts, maybe there are other reasons why they opt for bounty instead of just buying fake likes, views followers and what have you.
And as for bounty participants not being part of community, I will disagree with you on that, some hunters are mostly part of a project community even after bounty ended.
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I would choose the both because they serve their own different functions. One thing about bounty campaign which most people fail to understand is that its a cheaper way of marketing. For you to buy such likes and real followers, it's costlier than using bounty hunters. What I would do as an ICO or IEO project is to get the services of top influencers not the services of hunters.
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June 06, 2020, 06:17:56 PM |
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Bonjour, community. I have quite big experience with Bounty since 2016. It's not only participation, but also creation and managing. And I was always asking my self since 2017 end same question. Why the hell project managers prefer bounty rather than just buying cheap likes, views, followers / subs, comments, saves etc? From my understanding, bounty hunters are not the community of the project they work with. ALl they want to do is to run away with BTC after they sell their tokens.
At the same time, when you buy likes and other stuff, it has many advantages: 1) you do not give tokens to the ones who don't need them 2) buying activities will cost you $ cents 3) the "smart" purchase of likes, views and followers can push you to the social media top (youtube, instagram etc)
And yes, as an example, you may find YouTube views for 10$ per 1,000 views, but it is an insane price. It costs around 1$-2$ normally.
If you were ICO,IEO founder, what would you choose?
You are encouraging faking the project's campaign, it's preferable to pay bounty hunters because the majority of them has real followers that will likely invest in a project, projects wants success and they cannot get that if you encourage buying fake views and followers, and please stop blaming bounty hunters they have the right to sell them at any time they wish because they worked for it.
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June 06, 2020, 07:01:46 PM |
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Bonjour, community. I have quite big experience with Bounty since 2016. It's not only participation, but also creation and managing. And I was always asking my self since 2017 end same question. Why the hell project managers prefer bounty rather than just buying cheap likes, views, followers / subs, comments, saves etc? From my understanding, bounty hunters are not the community of the project they work with. ALl they want to do is to run away with BTC after they sell their tokens.
At the same time, when you buy likes and other stuff, it has many advantages: 1) you do not give tokens to the ones who don't need them 2) buying activities will cost you $ cents 3) the "smart" purchase of likes, views and followers can push you to the social media top (youtube, instagram etc)
And yes, as an example, you may find YouTube views for 10$ per 1,000 views, but it is an insane price. It costs around 1$-2$ normally.
If you were ICO,IEO founder, what would you choose?
with a such big experience, you should know that buying likes costs money, and bounty hunters are provided with tokens, that could become worthless if the project is not successful, so there is no expenses in the beginning on marketing, that is the one and only advantage of bounty to any other type of marketing (buying likes/views/followers included) would you accept to be paid in some tokens that could worth something, but there is a high risk of failure?
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June 06, 2020, 07:34:13 PM |
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There's no authenticity with buying those artificial gains in social media. Unlike in bounty, you get to know more about real people engaging in your project. There can be pros and cons for both methods and it depends to your taste how you'll work for your project.
And you know why they choose to have their bounty through their tokens? it costs nothing for developers if they'll pay their tokens to bounty hunters.
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After I read all replies, I should explain what mean. I'm not saying bounty hunters are useless, but... no, actually I think this theory can be trustful. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No, wait, guys. You say that buying likes n views is fake and bla bla bla. But listen, have you ever seen a single Twitter or Facebook account of a "normal" bounty hunter? It's rubbish! Not a single personal post, only retweets of crypto startups. You won't find a single interesting post/tweet, you won't even find a post of Cointelegraph. I understand these people, but, dear CEO/CMO, if you read this, are you sure it worth? You say that BHs create content and you are right. IMHO, 99% of such content is of low quality. I see the only reason to do it if you use YouTube SEO and promote it by tags. In this case guys looking for 'how to buy bitcoin using cash" would find a crappy (sorry) video, but they will find a solution and use the webpage below the video. I hope not a single CEO/CMO does not rely on audience of BHs YouTube channel. And you know why? Because these guys bought fake subs. So if there's no difference, why not buying subs, views and likes directly and save money? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But yeah, they do content, you don't pay them now (!) and you save you ICO budget. I understand it. But as usually I have few buts. But 1: You say, you save money if you use bounty, but why don't you calculate the salary of Bounty Manager? When it's time to distribute the tokens, you will have costs for that. And the main thing is about your token. If it's not s SCAM and you plan to get your token listed on reputable echanges, you should think about your token liquidity i.e. market making. You should be ready to "catch" your token price, cause these guys gonna dump it hard. They did not pay for it and their landlords asking for rent. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But 2: As mentioned in the first post, we all know websites where you can buy likes etc. I bet you've seen different prices. Today I've seen Telegram "real" members for 25$ per 100 members. Woooooow!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You are right, you can buy bots, but you can buy real people as well. There are services where people do minor tasks and get minor money. These services provide it to the webpages that sell you these services. I mean these are real people. Yes, the probability that they will be interested in your content is not much, but still. And there are lots of "fake services" that you can use and benefit from it. E.g. YouTube views. Did you know the most important factor is retention. The higher retention is, the better. Not gonna sell you this idea but it is closely related with YouTube SEO. So what can you tell me now? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Bonjour, community. I have quite big experience with Bounty since 2016. It's not only participation, but also creation and managing. And I was always asking my self since 2017 end same question. Why the hell project managers prefer bounty rather than just buying cheap likes, views, followers / subs, comments, saves etc? From my understanding, bounty hunters are not the community of the project they work with. ALl they want to do is to run away with BTC after they sell their tokens.
At the same time, when you buy likes and other stuff, it has many advantages: 1) you do not give tokens to the ones who don't need them 2) buying activities will cost you $ cents 3) the "smart" purchase of likes, views and followers can push you to the social media top (youtube, instagram etc)
And yes, as an example, you may find YouTube views for 10$ per 1,000 views, but it is an insane price. It costs around 1$-2$ normally.
If you were ICO,IEO founder, what would you choose?
Buying unnatural likes, views and comments will not give the results new projects are looking for even they will be blacklisted by the algorithms of social media networks and search engines because they can track fake and unnatural likes, on the other hand bounty hunters spread the word out about the project and if the product and team is good they do result in attracting good investments for the project so i do not think that these services are even comparable.
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June 06, 2020, 08:03:04 PM |
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Bonjour, community. I have quite big experience with Bounty since 2016. It's not only participation, but also creation and managing. And I was always asking my self since 2017 end same question. Why the hell project managers prefer bounty rather than just buying cheap likes, views, followers / subs, comments, saves etc? From my understanding, bounty hunters are not the community of the project they work with. ALl they want to do is to run away with BTC after they sell their tokens.
At the same time, when you buy likes and other stuff, it has many advantages: 1) you do not give tokens to the ones who don't need them 2) buying activities will cost you $ cents 3) the "smart" purchase of likes, views and followers can push you to the social media top (youtube, instagram etc)
And yes, as an example, you may find YouTube views for 10$ per 1,000 views, but it is an insane price. It costs around 1$-2$ normally.
If you were ICO,IEO founder, what would you choose?
Buying unnatural likes, views and comments will not give the results new projects are looking for even they will be blacklisted by the algorithms of social media networks and search engines because they can track fake and unnatural likes, on the other hand bounty hunters spread the word out about the project and if the product and team is good they do result in attracting good investments for the project so i do not think that these services are even comparable. What result do you mean? Everyone know about bounty programs and understand there is no interest from BHs. What result do you mean, my friend? Read my last reply. BH's profiles are rubish. These are the same fakes that you buy from SMM Panels.
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Well, buying will not give you anything, no one will know about your project.
bounty propagation is sometimes successful if the right approach is used.
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Buying likes,followers or views are against the respective social medias and their accounts will get suspended in no time so people who think they can easily get good stakes buy spending few dollars will left with nothing at the end of the campaign and more reputed managers check all those works individually so it is possible for them to identify which one is fake and real.
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Guys you are telling the things you are not experts in. Sorry. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If you own a YouTube channel, in order to go for monetization, you need not only the views, but watchtime. If you buy watchtime, you will get your YouTube account monetized. And i'm not saying it because I read it in Reddit from anonym. It is my practice. If you want to go for YouTube SEO, buy high retention views. YouTube sees your audience watches your video at least for 75% and your video will be higher in YouTube search. Instagram – same. Whateever social network – same. They analyze your content according one simple question – do people find your content interesting enough to stay at YouTube/Instagram for long time? If yes, they will help you to get higher. They have their own interest to see ads. If you help them to keep people at their portals, great. It's a win-win situation. You keep people at, e.g. YouTube, they give you traffic. And now tell me, how BHs can help you? Please mind, I consider only social activity in Social Media.If they do content, fine, let them do it. I mean you, CEO/CMO, use Bounty programs smarter.
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June 06, 2020, 09:47:55 PM |
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Buying likes and views or likes and comments won't get you far and will likely do more harm than any good to your product and project. This is like setting yourself out for destruction. Prospective investors will find this out and back out almost immediately without spending a dime on investments. You should always try to use your community to engage potential investors wisely instead of having bots faking it. Once investors see real community members engaging and discussing about the project and of course making the supposed brand wider and adoptable, .
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June 06, 2020, 10:41:10 PM |
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Lol that just like you were buying bot that can be banned anytime. So many bots accounts have been getting banned and that's the worst thing that I have ever seen these days. You were saying like that just like you were a part of the youtube team before lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's not so simple as you said. I have seen the scam ico projects that have been buying the telegram members and it's just like a dead group and then it's dead. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I think we can grow our numbers in the social networks with the right amount of money, but most of this kind of service will bring bots to our accounts, so, is no sense to have 1M followers and to not be able to sell your products. There is where you will realize abut bots.
In the past i used to grow twitter accounts, i have some accounts with more than 10k followers, but when i post from those accounts the interaction is really low.
So, what i have learned is that i prefer to have 50 real followers than to have 1,000,000 bots following me.
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June 06, 2020, 11:17:29 PM |
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I think it boils down to result, bounties give the results vs buying likes, views, follower etc. If it is not effective then I'm sure there will be no projects that will use bounties here in the community. And so far we haven't seen bounties slowing down, and even in the bear market, project still utilise them. Youtube is also good no doubt about it, but it is more complicated though, specially targeting audience. And there should also be a follow-up video, so projects after paying the Youtube influencer? that's it, in order to do some follow-up, they have to pay them again. So retention is hard in Youtube as compare to bounty signature campaigns.
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June 06, 2020, 11:25:48 PM |
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Project owners or managers want what is good for their projects and they know what they should go for. Had it been buying all those likes, views, comments and the likes will be helpful, they would not have needed the service of bounty hunters who are the real humans. Projects need something real to achieve their aim. They need real people who are bounty hunters, that would promote their projects for them in the most effective way.
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June 06, 2020, 11:44:55 PM |
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Bounty hunters will share your tweets or posts with real users interested in cryptocurrencies (targeted audience) unlike when buying likes/views. Those who sell likes usually use click farms and fake accounts which may harm your business.
But the main reason behind choosing bounty hunters over buying likes is that project owners don't have to spend any money since they will pay them with their shitcoin that they created out of thin air.
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June 06, 2020, 11:58:44 PM |
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Bonjour, community. I have quite big experience with Bounty since 2016.
You said that you have been in bounty since 2016, but your account was created in 2019. How could you be active before creating this account? Well, you're right. First, buying likes, comments,s and whatever you said, maybe not effective, or sometimes really not effective. That is why the bounty is not the only way to promote the projects. Bounty will help to spread the project, at least, it can be spread around the world (if it relates to social media bounty). If the members have big followers with high likes, views, and others, probably they are not all real people, but, I am sure that among them, there are real followers that will at least see the projects and be interested in it. So, it may not be the most effective way, but it can help to spread the project, to let more and more people know the projects. If you really want to make great promotion, so I will prefer to choose to hire Youtube content that is popular and trusted with high views (not a bot but real person related to crypto). It will be more effective.
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