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Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it?
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Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it?
If you don't know what's going on I advice you to google it for yourself, but the mere fact that Seattle downtown is now occupied by anarchists and none of democratic media have covered it yet says it all to me.
My opinion: I think the US police should be reformed from the top to the bottom, there are many real issues that deserve this kind of reaction by masses, but now we need police more than ever before. This surely looks like the beginning of some horrific 1917 Russia type of shit with literal plot taken from Orwell's Animal Farm.
These "opressed" kids don't know what they're fighting for, if they lived in the post-soviet society they would surely know how all of these communist "equalizing" attempts end up with massive murders, starvation, economy collapse and deep brainwashing (that's already been done by marxist educational system in the US for the last couple of decades unfortunately). This can end up really bad if more sane sitizens hide their tongues in their asses, which is going on a lot right now. They need to speak up and stand up before it's too late.
Here's very educating and scary prophetic words about what's going on now said 30 years ago by a soviet KGB defector:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2HiZ41C_w&feature=emb_logo
There's too much anger and unconscious actions that may lead to someone with "benevolent" intentions to take advantage of this power, steer it to their will and use it to wipe out the greatness of this beautiful country.
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June 12, 2020, 11:12:42 PM
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The Marxists ran out of food in 48 hours. That is a new record.
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June 13, 2020, 12:16:19 AM
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Quote from: gmakaveli on June 12, 2020, 10:32:46 PM
none of democratic media have covered it yet says it all to me.
Not sure what you mean by "democratic media" but there's plenty of coverage, from Bezos Post, CNN, MSNBC, you name it.
Let me guess, you got told that there is no coverage and you didn't bother to check yourself?
As for the "CHAZ" itself... kids will get bored, police will move back in, it will be forgotten by July.
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June 13, 2020, 12:31:31 AM
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I think it's quite interesting what's happening there. It's obvious that for any revolution to take place, the police would have to be ousted first. I see people's power in numbers.
Right now I feel the CHAZ incident has been greatly exaggerated though. There's a little but or black market activity and voluntary trade, but other than that police can still enter in small numbers without incident, society functions as before and there's no claim to autonomy really. The name might be a meme. There's just a large number of BLM protesters, which is the majority of the cause. Anything else other than BLM, even according to most people there, is just noise. I'm getting a feeling that even trump got memed into this.
I've spend a few hours in the last few days watching live streams from the area out of interest and it's quite interesting how peaceful it is. Businesses are still running. Police chiefs were quoted saying that they were interested to re-enter the area, but with some level of administrative support (or tolerance) to the protesters it would be a no-no for the police to enter with force. Moreover, police doesn't know who to talk to as the movement is leaderless. If it keeps going for much longer then it'd be interesting to study the behavior of people in there and transactions completed. Bitcoin would be a very good fit in what's been called "counter-economics" that's being reportedly exercised there.
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Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it?
June 13, 2020, 01:31:08 AM
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i can't watch the americans anymore they are so annoying they will never stop being racist, today the rightwingers are communist while the leftwingers have become racist scumbacks
they are destroying braincells worldwide.
is there some kind of usa blocker software so you don't have to look at usa related issues.
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June 13, 2020, 01:38:39 AM
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Quote from: KingScorpio on June 13, 2020, 01:31:08 AM
is there some kind of usa blocker software so you don't have to look at usa related issues.
You could just not look at those issues. I don't care about Kardashian-related issues so I don't look at them.
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June 13, 2020, 01:46:16 AM
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Quote from: KingScorpio on June 13, 2020, 01:31:08 AM
is there some kind of usa blocker software so you don't have to look at usa related issues.
You could just not look at those issues. I don't care about Kardashian-related issues so I don't look at them.
the usa is annyoing the entire world with its racism problems
the joke is
in the past the republicans where racist and the democrats where communist
today its vice versa, the usa will never get rid of racism until it is a single race society,
and even then they will be in conflict against each other -> people vs. institutions
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June 13, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
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Quote from: gmakaveli on June 12, 2020, 10:32:46 PM
Here's very educating and scary prophetic words about what's going on now said 30 years ago by a soviet KGB defector:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2HiZ41C_w&feature=emb_logo
This is peculiar to say the least, the guy definitely knows what he's talking about. Although I won't panic about the whole deal, that's a good social experiment unless they actualy do what they plan to do
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June 13, 2020, 07:13:56 PM
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Quote from: gmakaveli on June 12, 2020, 10:32:46 PM
Here's very educating and scary prophetic words about what's going on now said 30 years ago by a soviet KGB defector:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2HiZ41C_w&feature=emb_logo
This is peculiar to say the least, the guy definitely knows what he's talking about. Although I won't panic about the whole deal, that's a good social experiment unless they actualy do what they plan to do
if russians wanted to formally and totaly takeover america they would have done long time ago, but america is more valuable to russia in a certain form, so russia tries to change that.
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capitol hill now applying racial segregation technices, leftist democrats are being exposed for the racists they are
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Anarchists and Soviets are on opposite ends of the authority spectrum. OP has conflated the two and probably understands neither. Rojava is a better example of what an organized anarchy looks like long term.
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Anarchists and Soviets are on opposite ends of the authority spectrum. OP has conflated the two and probably understands neither. Rojava is a better example of what an organized anarchy looks like long term.
No they aren't. Anarchists are the delivery mechanism for communism.
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Anarchists and Soviets are on opposite ends of the authority spectrum. OP has conflated the two and probably understands neither. Rojava is a better example of what an organized anarchy looks like long term.
Since you are a communist, you must lie about this to hide the things your communist friends are doing.
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Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it?
If you don't know what's going on I advice you to google it for yourself, but the mere fact that Seattle downtown is now occupied by anarchists and none of democratic media have covered it yet says it all to me.
My opinion: I think the US police should be reformed from the top to the bottom, there are many real issues that deserve this kind of reaction by masses, but now we need police more than ever before. This surely looks like the beginning of some horrific 1917 Russia type of shit with literal plot taken from Orwell's Animal Farm.
These "opressed" kids don't know what they're fighting for, if they lived in the post-soviet society they would surely know how all of these communist "equalizing" attempts end up with massive murders, starvation, economy collapse and deep brainwashing (that's already been done by marxist educational system in the US for the last couple of decades unfortunately). This can end up really bad if more sane sitizens hide their tongues in their asses, which is going on a lot right now. They need to speak up and stand up before it's too late.
Here's very educating and scary prophetic words about what's going on now said 30 years ago by a soviet KGB defector:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2HiZ41C_w&feature=emb_logo
There's too much anger and unconscious actions that may lead to someone with "benevolent" intentions to take advantage of this power, steer it to their will and use it to wipe out the greatness of this beautiful country.
These occupations of public spaces should be dealt with asap. Organizers and participants should be arrested and charged with robbery.
Otherwise, these bolshevik mini revolutions will metastasize all over the country, then we'll have a real problem.
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Quote from: suchmoon on June 13, 2020, 12:16:19 AM
Quote from: gmakaveli on June 12, 2020, 10:32:46 PM
none of democratic media have covered it yet says it all to me.
Not sure what you mean by "democratic media" but there's plenty of coverage, from Bezos Post, CNN, MSNBC, you name it.
Let me guess, you got told that there is no coverage and you didn't bother to check yourself?
As for the "CHAZ" itself... kids will get bored, police will move back in, it will be forgotten by July.
+1 to that.
Everyone has been reporting on this. Yeah maybe the right has dedicated more time to it, but that's to be expected.
CHAZ will end soon. But it will be freaking people out while it is going on -- taking over a few blocks in Seattle and the police leaving it to you is nothing to scoff about. If things like this continue in the rest of the US -- public opinion is probably going to shift to allow the national guard to storm in and take back the country. Ya know?
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I suggest reading up on the different ideologies instead of just referring to everything thats not capitalism as "communism". Thats the way I learned it in grade school too but its wrong.
Even once you understand that all these things are different, theres still a lot more nuance to be learned. It still won't be as simplistic as you want it to be because there are so many different types of anarchists, communists,etc. Hell, even the parties in our federal republic can't agree much on the role of government. I like Democratic confederalism and recommend reading up on Bookchin or Abdullah Ocalan to learn more about how it works.
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Quote from: coins4commies on June 14, 2020, 05:30:08 PM
I suggest reading up on the different ideologies instead of just referring to everything thats not capitalism as "communism". Thats the way I learned it in grade school too but its wrong.
Even once you understand that all these things are different, theres still a lot more nuance to be learned. It still won't be as simplistic as you want it to be because there are so many different types of anarchists, communists,etc. Hell, even the parties in our federal republic can't agree much on the role of government. I like Democratic confederalism and recommend reading up on Bookchin or Abdullah Ocalan to learn more about how it works.
also left and right are neutral there is no left is bad and right is bad, they depict different capitalists
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also left and right are neutral there is no left is bad and right is bad
Yes. I don't really care whether it's left or right, I'm only worried when any of these sides tries to shut down opinions that don't fill in according to their ideology. That's an attack on freedom of speech and all the values that western civilization has been fighting to establish
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Quote from: KingScorpio on June 14, 2020, 06:14:55 PM
also left and right are neutral there is no left is bad and right is bad
Yes. I don't really care whether it's left or right, I'm only worried when any of these sides tries to shut down opinions that don't fill in according to their ideology. That's an attack on freedom of speech and all the values that western civilization has been fighting to establish
i would rather say left is bad, it tends somehow to sell of its own population for foreigners.
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June 14, 2020, 11:17:47 PM
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Quote from: coins4commies on June 14, 2020, 05:30:08 PM
I suggest reading up on the different ideologies instead of just referring to everything thats not capitalism as "communism". Thats the way I learned it in grade school too but its wrong.
Even once you understand that all these things are different, theres still a lot more nuance to be learned. It still won't be as simplistic as you want it to be because there are so many different types of anarchists, communists,etc. Hell, even the parties in our federal republic can't agree much on the role of government. I like Democratic confederalism and recommend reading up on Bookchin or Abdullah Ocalan to learn more about how it works.
I literally have been taking political compass tests for years at this point, and I have LITERALLY never seen this before in my entire life. I mean don't get me wrong the exact lines drawn are going to be a bit subjective as the lines are a bit fuzzy between different groups based on policy.
But this is very interesting, I'll have to make a thread on all of our political compass tests -- though it is kinda out of date now, the questions are a bit too old (unless they've updated it since I've taken it last)
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