Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it?

[PopoJeff]

Why is everyone worried about a chart and identity politics.

No one cares.  

Doesn't matter where you fall on that chart. If you and you group of whatever's forcefully take over part of a city, you're nothing more than a criminal, with no regard for others.

Area businesses will suffer.  A nearby Trader Joe's has already closed. Taxpayers will foot the bill for fixing what they've ruined.  Insurance companies will refuse to insure businesses who want to re build in the area.

Good job Seattle, you've negotiated with terrorists.

[Gyfts]

Why is everyone worried about a chart and identity politics.

No one cares.  

Doesn't matter where you fall on that chart. If you and you group of whatever's forcefully take over part of a city, you're nothing more than a criminal, with no regard for others.

Area businesses will suffer.  A nearby Trader Joe's has already closed. Taxpayers will foot the bill for fixing what they've ruined.  Insurance companies will refuse to insure businesses who want to re build in the area.

Good job Seattle, you've negotiated with terrorists.

It's strictly on the Mayor for allowing this shit to slide. Portland, which is notorious for standing by while Antifa causes riots and destruction took a proactive approach and had their police destroy the barriers in their "autonomous zone".

[TECSHARE]

This is "domestic terrorism":

https://crosscut.com/2019/12/wa-rep-matt-shea-engaged-domestic-terrorism-helped-plan-malheur-standoff-investigation

This is "protest":

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/seattle-police-autonomous-zone/index.html


Interestingly enough BLM is involved in both.

[Spendulus]

Why is everyone worried about a chart and identity politics.

No one cares.  

Doesn't matter where you fall on that chart. If you and you group of whatever's forcefully take over part of a city, you're nothing more than a criminal, with no regard for others.

Area businesses will suffer.  A nearby Trader Joe's has already closed. Taxpayers will foot the bill for fixing what they've ruined.  Insurance companies will refuse to insure businesses who want to re build in the area.

Good job Seattle, you've negotiated with terrorists.

Detroit never recovered from the 1968 riots.

Compton, in Los Angeles, never recovered from its riots.

Here we go again.

[hornetsnest]

It reminds me of that Die hard movie where the thieves took over the building masquerading as "freedom fighters" and had a list of "convincing" demands that collaborated with their "movement"'s identity but all the while their real motive was robbing the joint.These lot below are beginning to make a complete mockery of the legitimate grievances of all genuine people who actually have suffered police brutality.In fact what they are doing is literally turning people who initially would have had sympathy with this protest against it and creating deeper divisions and resentment as planned.The genuine people who can see through all this bullshit need to stand up and start taking names and numbers here or this is going to turn very negative.Instigators with ulterior motives have been exploiting every "crisis" like parasitic catalysts for too long and they are becoming genuinely dangerous to the whole community now.They will not be happy until there is a social cataclysm.  

A Black Lives Matter leader from Louisville, Kentucky, is demanding white people pay for their inherent sin of being white by adhering to a 10-point list of demands, which includes small gestures like giving up your home and leaving your property to a minority family when you die.

Seems reasonable.

Chanelle Helm, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter-Louisville, penned the list of radical demands in Leo Weekly following the rally-turned-fatal riot in Charlottesville, Virginia, last weekend.

In the first six demands, Helm focuses on white people giving up their property and money to poor minorities, since white people are “bound to make that money in some other white privileged way”:

    1. White people, if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty.

    2. White people, if you’re inheriting property you intend to sell upon acceptance, give it to a black or brown family. You’re bound to make that money in some other white privileged way.

    3. If you are a developer or realty owner of multi-family housing, build a sustainable complex in a black or brown blighted neighborhood and let black and brown people live in it for free.

    4. White people, if you can afford to downsize, give up the home you own to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

    5. White people, if any of the people you intend to leave your property to are racists assholes, change the will, and will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

    6. White people, re-budget your monthly so you can donate to black funds for land purchasing.

Then the racism dial somehow finds a way to get turned up even higher. Helm, while making several stereotypical and offensive claims, urges white people to “get a racist fired.”

“White people, especially white women (because this is yaw specialty — Nosey Jenny and Meddling Kathy), get a racist fired. Yaw know what the f*** they be saying. You are complicit when you ignore them. Get your boss fired cause they racist too,” reads demand number seven.

And it continues, this time with mention of “lil’ d***-white men.”

    8. Backing up No. 7, this should be easy but all those sheetless Klan, Nazi’s and Other lil’ d***-white men will all be returning to work. Get they ass fired. Call the police even: they look suspicious.

Demand number nine encourages the use of violence when getting supposed “racists” fired (emphasis added):

    9. OK, backing up No. 8, if any white person at your work, or as you enter in spaces and you overhear a white person praising the actions from yesterday, first, get a pic. Get their name and more info. Hell, find out where they work — Get Them Fired. But certainly address them, and, if you need to, you got hands: use them.

And, finally, demand ten implores white people to fight “white supremacy.”

    10. Commit to two things: Fighting white supremacy where and how you can (this doesn’t mean taking up knitting, unless you’re making scarves for black and brown kids in need), and funding black and brown people and their work.

This is a brilliant plan by Helms; everyone knows the best way to fight phantom racism is to engage in open racism yourself.

[coins4commies]

Why is everyone worried about a chart and identity politics.

No one cares.  

Doesn't matter where you fall on that chart. If you and you group of whatever's forcefully take over part of a city, you're nothing more than a criminal, with no regard for others.

Area businesses will suffer.  A nearby Trader Joe's has already closed. Taxpayers will foot the bill for fixing what they've ruined.  Insurance companies will refuse to insure businesses who want to re build in the area.

Good job Seattle, you've negotiated with terrorists.

What if you forcefully takeover a whole continent?

[PopoJeff]

So today, CHAZ has a shooting within.  1 dead, 2 injured.

Guess what happened next.......... THEY CALLED THE COPS !!


This reminds me of when the child wants to be a big boy and the parents set up a tent in the back yard because the child "can do it on their own.".   And then the kid gets hungry and comes back in.

[coins4commies]

Its not the politicians' city though.   They realize they work for the people who are out there and they have simply "occupied" a piece of their own city.

[PopoJeff]

Its not the politicians' city though.   They realize they work for the people who are out there and they have simply "occupied" a piece of their own city.

So they've segregated themselves from civilized society. On property that should be open to use by all races, sexes and political ideologies.  

It is the politicians job to ensure public safety and fairness for all under their purview. And here they've failed to discharge their elected duties.

A Democrat mayor and Democrat Governor have FAILED to show equal treatment to all of it's citizens.

Just imagine if a bunch of right-wingers did the same thing. They'd Waco that zone in minutes

The politicians responsible for Seattle have failed the citizens and businesses in that area.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/residents-living-whats-become-the-seattle-autonomous-zone-scared-because-cops-wont-come-op-ed/

[coins4commies]

They only kicked out the police and closed the streets to traffic.  The police precint is the only thing not allowed to operate, but they already owned that.  Anyone else can come and go as they please.   A lot of what you hear on foxnews is overblown or downright misleading. Can you not see what kind of bias a site called "law enforcement today" might have about this situation?

At this point, a government intervention would be the most specific way to endanger public safety.  The government has done a lot to help though.  They actually installed porta potties are helping to keep the whole operation running in the background.  

[TECSHARE]

They only kicked out the police and closed the streets to traffic.  The police precint is the only thing not allowed to operate, but they already owned that.  Anyone else can come and go as they please.   A lot of what you hear on foxnews is overblown or downright misleading. Can you not see what kind of bias a site called "law enforcement today" might have about this situation?

At this point, a government intervention would be the most specific way to endanger public safety.  The government has done a lot to help though.  They actually installed porta potties are helping to keep the whole operation running in the background.  

Bullshit. They set up armed checkpoints where people are being stopped, searched for weapons, and IDed before entering. Also it is most certainly not peaceful, there has been plenty of violence. Some one was shot yesterday, and since they won't allow emergency services in of any kind, they had to be dragged out of the zone before they could receive emergency medical care. Yes, the government has done a lot to help them, showing explicitly this whole thing s a complete farce. Communism REQUIRES capitalism to exist. The only way it can pretend to have value is by hijacking the resources capitalism provides to present an illusion of efficacy.

[Spendulus]

....they have simply "occupied" a piece of their own city.

You mean they stole it from the people who live and have businesses on that block.

Interfering with peoples' ability to go to the corner store on that block is illegal, isn't it?

That would be assault.

[PopoJeff]

....they have simply "occupied" a piece of their own city.

You mean they stole it from the people who live and have businesses on that block.

Interfering with peoples' ability to go to the corner store on that block is illegal, isn't it?

That would be assault.

Ever noticed how kids put the word "simply" before everything when they try to justify criminal activity?

They were "simply" sitting on the interstate.
They were "simply" expressing their feeling by stealing shoes.
They were "simply" protesting racism by beating black cops with bricks.

I am "simply" saying CHAZ is a joke to stay on topic and avoid biased moderation.

[coins4commies]

None of those things are as bad as the crimes being committed by the state.  You're also going to be appalled when you find out about how the US was established and expanded.  Stealing shoes, burning down a building, or throwing a rock are hardly proportionate to murder.  

[Gyfts]

Bodycam video was released of the incident recently where a 19 year old was shot and killed, while another one remains critically injured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cefDp_rsfgo

Seattle PD had a tough time getting to the victim and literally were mobbed upon trying to tend to the victim. I guess the angry mobs were part of the peaceful protests that the Mayor was talking about.

[Spendulus]

None of those things are as bad as....

Whoo Hoo! Violence is fine, you say.

[PopoJeff]

CHAZ now officially has, per capita, the highest murder rate, gun crime rate, and violent crime rate of anywhere in the US.

Congrats kids.

[Spendulus]

...My thoughts on CHAZ is clearly that its a politically motivated temper tantrum by naive children

But they are on the side with the media Overlords! With Soros! With Antifa to help when you need muscle!

[KingScorpio]

...My thoughts on CHAZ is clearly that its a politically motivated temper tantrum by naive children

But they are on the side with the media Overlords! With Soros! With Antifa to help when you need muscle!

the left wing media in the usa is crazy and disgusting i doubt soros is so almighty as many right wingers claim.

[TECSHARE]

"Second Shooting in Seattle’s ‘CHOP’ Zone Leaves One in Critical Condition"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/second-shooting-in-seattles-chop-zone-leaves-one-in-critical-condition_3397168.html