Most trusted projects ruined me !!

[niisarearning]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

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[Iyeman]

it caused by those coins that you have trusted it already traded in a high price caused by the hype and i guess you should not believe about the gimmick that has already offered by what you have called that as trusted project.

I have experienced the same thing like you when i was buying what i have called that as the future but it becomes nothing right now.

[Emilyearl]

You know you can never go wrong by taking profits I keep hearing this statement and I've come to understand the truth embedded in it. Most persons held tokens due to their trust and sentiments in the project and all these didn't end well for such investors. We should learn to take profits when we can.

[Jawhead999]

Can you tell the coins and tokens you hold before?

Actually your statement is true, most of altcoins is not profitable if we hold it for long-term. I can said, altcoins is good for short-term and mid-term only, it's too risky for long-term. I would suggest to choose Bitcoin if you want to hold for long-terms. Also, on 2017 is the "altcoin season" many altcoins reach ATH while on that year. This is one of reason why your coins/tokens become worthless now.

[StonerStanley]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

You didn't invested at the good moment.

Now there are a lot of cryptocurrencies with an interessting price.

You also have to be more patient, waiting 2 years to say "holding token or coin for long term is meaningless" it's not being patient.

[Jating]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

It really depends on the coins or tokens that you are holding. However, 2017 was really a boom of crypto, lots of hype that's why most of them really skyrocketed on price and I don't know why you hold them and didn't get the profit instead.

And it looks like you have regret your decisions because this 2020, they are all useless crap that just clog your wallet and wish that one day they will get to a new all time high again. However, I don't think we will have that kind of market again because it has matured a lot and investors are not willing to invest more money as compare to 2017. Sorry to burst the bubble for you.

[masterrex]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I feel you mate because I been through in that kind of situation also. Thats, why I'm already learning with my mistakes, don't just speculate if you want to hold any crypto it's better to assess first preferably choose to hold those top coins/tokens in the market because they are already stable in price and value so if the market goes wrong it will not easily getting dump in price.  

[vermigerous]

Holding tokens not necessary means to have a good profit in the future, however you should take the risk of holding your coins and take the possibility to earn profit or not. Se of what you hold may give you a good value in the long run, while some can not give you a good value.

[LuciferMorningstar]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

You mean holding bad coins/tokens even at long-tern bring back nothing? Well, that's obviously nothing new so maybe next time, holding long-term but for good coins/token instead?

[bgaf]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Depends on the project you choose. Can I know what are these projects you invested during that time? Not all altcoin in the past can survive the harsh environment of market and some let you feel some lose first before totally having some gains.

I prefer to invest on big projects only and thats one thing make me feel safe. Blue chip projects are rare and in order to spot them is you are required a capability to asses these projects head on.

[plvbob0070]

Can you tell the coins and tokens you hold before?

Actually your statement is true, most of altcoins is not profitable if we hold it for long-term. I can said, altcoins is good for short-term and mid-term only, it's too risky for long-term. I would suggest to choose Bitcoin if you want to hold for long-terms. Also, on 2017 is the "altcoin season" many altcoins reach ATH while on that year. This is one of reason why your coins/tokens become worthless now.

Definitely agree with this, bitcoin is very suitable for long term investment unlike with other cryptocurrencies in the market. I have also seen some thread here about the coins that they bought way back 2018 and 2019 which they did not earn any profit from it. Probably, you will now never earn any profit to the coin that you have bought on that year but you can still earn all your losses if you can now find decent projects.

And, maybe you have now already learned that never ever hold altcoin for the long term unless it was bitcoin and never buy any coin that has no potential in hitting good price in the market.

[khiholangkang]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Holding a newly born coin / token for the long term is meaningless, because we don't know whether the coin is really good or just shitcoin. But if you want to hold for the long term we better find safe by holding a coin that already has a big name.

[Davian144]

Holding tokens not necessary means to have a good profit in the future, however you should take the risk of holding your coins and take the possibility to earn profit or not. Se of what you hold may give you a good value in the long run, while some can not give you a good value.

Judging from the story revealed by the OP, he holds many tokens and coins that he produced through ICO in the past, meaning that tokens and coins at that time did have a value, although at this time many were no longer valuable, so holding tokens and coins coins in the long run are also not a guarantee for future profits.

[Pumuckel21]

I share another opinion, so if it is a good project and the dev team is working hard hodling is very good in my opinion. An important thing is that you do not buy a project within fomo.

[Kelvinid]

I share another opinion, so if it is a good project and the dev team is working hard hodling is very good in my opinion. An important thing is that you do not buy a project within fomo.

2017 is a Bullish market and almost all projects did the hypes which encourage people to invest as they think that it keeps rising. But we have this unexpected drops that shaken up the entire crypto holders and brought them into big losses. I understand why people acted differently after that scenario and many don't believe crypto. But not all ain't that hopeless enough to leave crypto instead, they still believe that they could still see sunlight after darkness.

This is what we called the risk in here, crypto investment never gives assurance for its return and you are right, if we only buy and hold those promising and potential projects, definitely we can't have this bad sentiment.

[Yaunfitda]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted).

Trust is very subject, in my opinion. Just because the team and the solution is viable doesn't mean that you have to trust and hold their coins.

Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

That's really too bad, and this just reflect the good and the bad image of cryptocurrency. Sometimes you got lucky and win big. But majority of holders of 2017, got rekt, you are not the first and won't be the last case to regret their decisions.

[Novatech8]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Holding useless coins is meaningless, you chooses bad projects and now you are putting blame on all altcoins, next time make sure you choose better altcoins in the market, do strong research and diversify your money

[Mighty_crypt]

Things like this will always happen, that's why it's always good to have more than few altcoins in your wallet, you can never tell which one will survive or die on the long run

[LazerPanther]

If you want to hold altcoin long term, then you have to choose the best altcoin in this market. ETH, BNB, XLM .. these are the best altcoins you should buy. If you buy tokens from an ICO, I believe that 99% of those projects will die or collapse in the future

[VDraci]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

You don't hold better coins, that fault is on you, we have many altcoins in top 20-30 on coinmarketcap that are very good for long term investment, I'm pretty sure you go for coins with low marketcap cap, the reason why one should hold a coin for long term must be because of the use case, the use case must be good enough to attract investors

[DDante]

For altcoins I prefer to plan for short term holding, I believe that coins that are worth holding for a very long time are top 10 altcoins and Bitcoin itself, the most dangerous projects re new coins, they can turn very badly in just a year

[Ken_terrance]

The term 'most trusted' that you use is on you, not everyone trust those projects you made mention, next time go for better altcoins like BNB Token, Tezos, Harmony, cosmos, ETH, ETC, etc

[Byakuga]

Don't ever trust any project in crypto space, even if they are doing so well today tomorrow might be disastrous, this is why many crypto experts recommend people to invest only what they can afford to lose

[rahmatullah9305]

Don't ever trust any project in crypto space, even if they are doing so well today tomorrow might be disastrous, this is why many crypto experts recommend people to invest only what they can afford to lose

If I read from the OP discussion, it seems like he didn't make a total investment, but there were also tokens or coins that he got through the ICO promotion at that time, because in 2017 and early 2018 the average ICO was successful and paid all participants, both it is the investor and bounty participant.

[Nellayar]

I bought PTON, AMBIT coin and EosEx. Lol, all of them died already. They said that they will give the future for their investors but there is no future I see till now. All of them were just telling lies and they don't really care about their investors.


Until now, all of the coins I bought are useless though there are some that gives me profifs. Most of ICOs until today is scam and good only for fundraising but after that, expect that your capital will burn from nothing, just like you throw your money in ocean.

[OasisDre]

I bought PTON, AMBIT coin and EosEx. Lol, all of them died already. They said that they will give the future for their investors but there is no future I see till now. All of them were just telling lies and they don't really care about their investors.


Until now, all of the coins I bought are useless though there are some that gives me profifs. Most of ICOs until today is scam and good only for fundraising but after that, expect that your capital will burn from nothing, just like you throw your money in ocean.

Sorry to hear about your loss, new projects always have something good to attract investors, they will claim that their project is the best but on the long run the project will fade away, for now I prefer investing my money on Bitcoin instead of altcoins, they are too risky

[Russlenat]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

If you have been holding altcoins before the bull run in 2017, you will be thankful because you'll be able to sell it at a good profit during the bull run, but if after the bull run you accumulated, you will really feel the pain like investors have, but it doesn't mean holding altcoins is meaningless as it depends on the timing and if you continue to believe, you will hold it until the price increase with no worries.

[ije07]

but not all tokens generated from ICO in 2017 are bad or do not have a high selling point at this time, if you don't mind can you mention that token? basically this depends on the project you are participating in, if the team is active and the product is still developing i think the price of the token is not bad.

[Winscosinally]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I don't know the projects but if they are still active there is a chance they can turn to new leave in future but if they aren't active like they used to be it's better to opt out for Bitcoin or other top 10 altcoins

[casperBGD]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I don't know the projects but if they are still active there is a chance they can turn to new leave in future but if they aren't active like they used to be it's better to opt out for Bitcoin or other top 10 altcoins

agree, active projects could go up, if there is on-going development, that should be enough to hold those coins, at least for me, since development could bring future progress and products, if there is no team and active development, those coins are probably doomed, and i would leave them away, of course you should think for yourself

[memed97]

The term 'most trusted' that you use is on you, not everyone trust those projects you made mention, next time go for better altcoins like BNB Token, Tezos, Harmony, cosmos, ETH, ETC, etc

Yes, but most of the projects you mentioned did not appear at the end of 2017 and in early 2018, for more details try to trace back existing projects at the end of 2017 and early 2018.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Holding your coins in a long term is a risk because you cannot really say if the promising project that you thought will really give you a huge profit in the future. That is why I never hold the coins that I earned in a bounty campaign in a long term because I already know that this might happen someday.

[20kevin20]

Holding useless coins is meaningless, you chooses bad projects and now you are putting blame on all altcoins, next time make sure you choose better altcoins in the market, do strong research and diversify your money

Only few projects are legit with a vision for the future. Actually, it's probably only a handful of them. ICOs have been scammy since the beginning when there's been an insane explosion of shitcoins with fairytale whitepapers that were sold through ICOs.

Choosing which coins are fine and which aren't is an easy job if you study them. The thing is, they'll never get past BTC so most alts will mostly only pump & dump during stable Bitcoin timeframes.

[qigong13]

You should know better as don't hodl unknow, unpopular crypto that long and should have sold even for a loss back then. Please don't blame the strategy of hodl long term because of your fault.

[gwaposakon]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I can relate to you on this. My crypto wallets right now are full of coins that were once very promising cryptos. Maybe it is my weakness that I hold on to these coins and their projects that eventually were dumped in the market. Having learned my mistakes, I ventured into trading. and slowing I somewhat regained some of the value I lost.

[LbtalkL]

I should say you are not holding the most trusted, genuine, and good projects, because of what happened in you. If it is a really good and trusted project it should survive no matter what the market is, either bear or bull. But as you say it became nothing so it is a sh*tcoin, pump and dump project, only exist on bullrun. Avoid projects like that and run a review carefully, I trust projects which have years of existence and have truly a working product or platform but I don't close my doors with newly created projects with potential.

[cabron]

Its going to be meaningless when its got not value after waiting for a long time but if these tokens grew its value, you wouldn't say it's meaningless to wait that long.  
Early 2018 is just a bad year to start looking altcoins if you just notice. Most of the holders are all selling because its the start of the crypto bear market. You are not just the only one who was devastated by the collapse. Many of us lost money too.  The worse thing is that this covid19 which makes this a tragic calamity of all times.

But now that we learned our lesson, there is still a chance for us to regain what's lost. Stick to valuable coins only.

[sangjoewara]

If you want to hold altcoin long term, then you have to choose the best altcoin in this market. ETH, BNB, XLM .. these are the best altcoins you should buy. If you buy tokens from an ICO, I believe that 99% of those projects will die or collapse in the future

Yes, the tokens that you mentioned are indeed the best Altcoins on the market, but if we look at the price conditions at the end of 2017 until now it is very different, meaning that if we ever buy tokens that you say at the end of 2017, so now we are still at a loss.

[Malam90]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I was holding many tokens in the last part of 2017 and after the first quarter of 2018, most of the tokens became valueless. Some of the tokens got delisted totally from coinmarketcap or even from any exchange. I had to face huge losses of my investment. Now i am a small trader because i have lost my assets which i invested and tried to hold even after getting 100% pump. Now i realized that when i get pump of my holding coins, it is wise decision to take profits in the pocket.

[helloinox]

This is the reason why you never put your trust in one thing solely. Think it as the common diversity advice that doesn't put your eggs in one basket only. If you stay too emotionally attached to something, in this case, the trust then you will make a wrong decision (hold it for too long) and hurt yourself.

[Apostlekin$$$]

Don't trust any crypto projects except bitcoin, when you've done enough research on altcoins always have it in mind that they can fail at anytime so consider them as higher risk investment, that's why you need to invest the very little cash you can spare just in case.

[Mpamaegbu]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I think crypto is still a game of chance, and not that you're extremely ruined because you held for a long time. There was a token (ESH) which was released to the market over two years ago only for it to do a frog limp to over $2.4 from less than 2cents. Can you beat that? Well, a lot of those who had an appreciable quantity made a good ROI from cashing out while others still held to receive the McAfee token — GHOST, airdropped to ESH hodlers. My advice to you is to always check the tokens you're hodling if there are activities going on around them or the devs have abandoned ship. If there are activities, don't dump. Keep hodling. One day, something will pump them too.

[Thomas-s]

I have a different experience. many of the coins that I received earlier on free giveaways or in bounty simply hold in my portfolio and I even forgot about them, but in 2020 some of them began to bring just excellent profit.  I already earned about 3 thousand dollars this year on old coins

[justdimin]

Projects are rarely that trustable even if you know what you are doing. Normally the world is full of scammers and/or people who fail at their job. I once bought a stock of a company that I thought was going crazy high, it was actually one of the most profitable investments I have ever done, it did 7x in 11 months and I was shocked, yet the dude overpaid on so many things with the new found high revenue that costs basically killed the business when they couldn't keep the revenue that high and failed.

Now there are projects who outright steals from you but also there are projects where they are idiots. There is really no way of guarantee any wins on any investment, sure it is not a good thing to hear but just keep on researching and investing, eventually you will win.

[coronga]

Icos most of all were just a loss of time, a lot projects just tried to get millions of $ in orders to offer nothing, and I not even mentioned those that just run away with money of investor, for me glad I invested only in one ICO and I didn't lose so much, I feel sad for those that put a lot of effort and money into a project and lose it all

[bigcash2011]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Unfortunately, you entered the market right at the peak range that is why you are feeling this way because after that there was like 2 years of downtrend.
Now, the market seems to be improving so i would suggest you to wait for atleast 1 more year and if your holdings are good projects then definitely they will grow and give you decent profit in few more months when we finally enter reall bull trend.

[nicecrypto]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I agree with you bro, it is meaningless to hold tokens /coins for a long time because all will manage to do is hold for the team to dump on you, the more you hold the more the value depreciate, before I use to do this, I believe all the people that would shout hold but I think it doesn't work with majority of altcoins, the only coin to hold for long term is btc, most alts are not worth it.

[Lordhermes]

Take Profit! Take Profit!! Take Profit!!! A Popular Slang Both Forex And Cyrpto Traders Echo At All Times, But Traders Problem Is Greediness, Stinginess. There Is Nothing Wrong With Taking Profits No Matter The Amount, Practise This As A Good Trader.

[smyslov]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Hodling token for long term is still good you just need to now and follow the right time to sell coins that you are hodling, there should be a point that you are going to choose to sell your coins, and you will know this if you follow the development of the coins you are hodling and the condition of the market.

[jajorforce]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

For the best opportunity you should wait. That time was the best time to sell your tokens. Long term hold isn't meaningless, holding time is meaningless. Why don't you buy any top coins then your thoughts will be charged. You can earn profits from any coin, if this coin now has a very good reputation in the coinmarketcap.

[Deeshawn]

This is one of the reason investing in cryptocurrency needs to be done with own money and not borrowed money because you can't predict the future of any cryptocurrency project, anything can happen, team can run out of cash anytime and decides to quit, Infact team can be tired and decides to work away with their profit, so when investing, invest only with money you can afford to lose so as to avoid stories that touch.

[ololajulo]

You know you can never go wrong by taking profits I keep hearing this statement and I've come to understand the truth embedded in it. Most persons held tokens due to their trust and sentiments in the project and all these didn't end well for such investors. We should learn to take profits when we can.

Its not about taking profit but trust a failing or failed project. It is important to know the project and the team before any investment. In the past 1-2 years of bear market less than percent of new project were able to stay above IEO price even with such profitable idea. Timing of market entry is also important, in bull market any price is good for a good project. the space is grown and product with use case is more important than the big exchanges listed and campaign.

[republicrypto]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

yes, we should know when the right time to sell our tokens or coins my friend
because market not always up, sometimes down, thats why people should understand about technical analysis to know when to enter or exit the market
regards

[pikkie]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

yes, we should know when the right time to sell our tokens or coins my friend
because market not always up, sometimes down, thats why people should understand about technical analysis to know when to enter or exit the market
regards

I don't think anyone can predict the price movement of cryptocurrency precisely so when there is an upward and downward movement of prices you should at least not be easily influenced, I usually use the reverse method, when prices go up I will sell it but when prices fall I will buy it.

[TheClownSong]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Agree that saving altcoin for the long term is futile. But in my opinion, there are some altcoins to be reckoned with and can be used as long-term investments. Projects that can be used as long-term investments are projects that already have a large marketcap value and have an active transaction volume in the market and usually have products that can generate revenue for the company

[coinsycrip09]

well, we can't predict the future. some other coins made that year are very valuable even today, maybe you are out of luck and hold the wrong coin.

just think of it as an experience for you, because this not only happened to you, i also experienced the same thing as you. so you have to give up and move on from them. this time make your experience a teaching so that this does not happen again to you.

[maxreish]

I may disagree at some point.
 Holding tokens is meaningless of that particular token has no value at all. But we can still hold even for a long term the ones which are well established and are potential. Those who contributed useful platform in crypto industry.
 
 Whether you joined many bounties and take part of the reward coins, at the end the value of the token will be depends on the purpose, the investors and the product itself.

[Little Mouse]

Almost all the coins are far down from the price of late 2017 and early 2018. Not only the shitcoins, all the coins have seen huge price dump within this time. Look at ETHx their ATH was around $1500 but now struggling with $250.
No matter which ICO you are talking about, how good the project was. At the end, all the altcoins are kind of shit. Holding shit for long time will help you more to sink.

[Darkuso]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

That happens with 99% of the alts and 100% of the shitcoins, I learned it in the bad way as well, If you want something for long, go BTC, and ALTs for short, always be ready to dump them.

[restuibu]

we just need to know when to sell and when to hold, projects in 2017 and 2018 only pump and dump after that they will have difficulty moving better. sometimes someone's greed can make big mistakes

[JoMarrah Iarim Dan]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Same case here. When I stopped joining signature campaigns before year 2018 ends, I have a lot of coins in my wallet plus the coins that I am expecting to receive in my previous projects. But as the time passed by, looks like these coins are useless. Some have a very low values, while some are not listed on the exchanger. I wish I did not waste my time promoting those projects. From that learned to just join campaigns that can pay me weekly. So that I can use the payment immediately.

[Midy]

it's all because the tokens that we hold do not have good prospects for long-term investment, but if the tokens that we have are still attracted by some investors, of course the price will continue to increase from time to time, even though there are currently many tokens that are meaningless.

[Mealea]

Long term hodl can be dangerous at times, though is working for some people, maybe you just need to know what is working for you. We cannot totally conclude that long term hodl is meaningless because it does not work for you. Maybe you hodl for too long or you pick the wrong coin.

[Krislaw]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

You didn't invested at the good moment.

Now there are a lot of cryptocurrencies with an interessting price.

You also have to be more patient, waiting 2 years to say "holding token or coin for long term is meaningless" it's not being patient.

And your definition of good moment? OP said he/she invested in ICO which is always cheap price. Any project that their token price is way below ICO price isn't performing well.
True that there are lot of cryptocurrency with interesting price but interesting price isn't what's needed. You can still get screwed by project with good token price.

[bukham88]

That's right because so many tokens/coins are left to die, so most new tokens are not good for long-term savings, a good idea is to sell them and exchange them for current top coins.

[Saisher]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Only coins that are in the top 10 or 15 are worth holding long term, some of the coins that was created back 2017 are worth nothing now or cannot keep up with the development of their project and they cannot keep up with the competition, investors should made sure that they always monitor the coins or tokens that they are holding.

[nicecrypto]

Nearly 90% of coins/tokens in the market only have a fancy website and white paper, they have no real life products to give services to people to increase the demand for them, many coins/tokens are only speculative no real value, what project team should fight towards now is develop a real usage so that the value of this coins/tokens will increase.

[Ann Impas]

Anything can happen if you invest or just earning tokens. There's a lot of tokens out there who has a good reputation can lose it all especially when they get listed on a market. The market is like eat or be eaten. The weak goes. So it doesn't matter if you the token has a good reputation if the market won't accept it which can lead to low volume or a dead chart.

[tvplus006]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

This applies to the entire cryptocurrency market, whose capitalization has decreased by more than 2 times compared to 2017-2018. We see that coins such as BTC and Ethereum have also lost in their value. And if bitcoin lost about half of its value, then Ethereum lost about 80%. But this does not mean that holding coins is not profitable, it is quite possible that we will still have to wait.

[ethereumhunter]

we just need to know when to sell and when to hold, projects in 2017 and 2018 only pump and dump after that they will have difficulty moving better. sometimes someone's greed can make big mistakes

Yes, and most people do not know when to sell and when to hold it, because it is very difficult to know, especially the newbie who has no experience in it, and greed is clearly not recommended by everyone, because it is something that not good for everyone.

I think many of them still hold because they want more profit than what they can see right now. They become greedy once they see the price of the coin that they hold can increase so high, but they don't sell it fast. They are instead waiting for another time to sell because they believe that the price will still increase so high. But the fact, that will make them disappoint because usually, after the price increase so high, the price will go down, and for the new coin, that can impact to the price and the price will go down too deep.

[Greatchu]

The most trusted crypto project in crypto space is Bitcoin, don't put your trust on any altcoins, they are more risky than Bitcoin, secondly top exchange tokens are more reliable for instant like binance exchange or gate .io

[taguig]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

The only trusted coins for me are Bitcoin and Ethereum all the others are still in contention for a slice in investor's trust and part of credibility in the market, you did not mention the name of the coin but since it is now out anymore it's not trusted anymore.

[Iyanu14]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Hmm...it's true that some trusted projects have disappointed a lot.  A friend of mine hold some trusted coins worth $10,000 back then in 2017/2018.  Unfortunately because of the trust he had that those projects have good future, it later turned out otherwise.  He only realized less than $2000 when he finally sold those coins.  Not all long term holdings are bad, some of them have turned some into millionaires.

[Botnake]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing .

There's a problem with timing of accumulating a coin, you accumulated during peak which is the timing for selling. 
If you have followed a simple principle which is to "Buy at dip and sell at peak" you might have not bought at that time and you'll wait until the market dump due to correction, it was all FOMO that time that's why the price went crazy, not only in bitcoin but most altcoins as well, in fact a lot of people make good profit on altcoins as they are the most profitable that time.

But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Like I said, if you were able to do it at a good timing, you'll not regret because holding is still a good strategy as long as you hold a legit coins that has a great potential to succeed in the future.

We should know about this.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/btc-maximalists-are-right-that-95-of-crypto-is-a-scam-says-emin-gun-sirer

[litepool.ru]

Most of the investors lost money when investing in altcoin in 2017 2018. The price of altcoin continuously collapsed and fell down hundreds of times in a short time, I myself have lost a lot and luckily. Luckily I cut loss them soon

[aioc]

Most of the investors lost money when investing in altcoin in 2017 2018. The price of altcoin continuously collapsed and fell down hundreds of times in a short time, I myself have lost a lot and luckily. Luckily I cut loss them soon

They were all victims of FOMO because they saw all the coins are pumping even those dead coins are making a huge pump, game over now for this pump and dump coin, it's now time to do your research and doesn't just believe in the hype, we have seen the collapse of ICO and it's a big lesson for all of us here.

[totoy4741]

Why you invest in an ICO project in the first place, to gain profits right? Then why would you hold and waste your opportunities to gain profits by holding for a long time without any assurance of its success. You could have sold half of it, so atleast you did not loss any of your investments

[thesmallgod]

It cut across all coin especially after the bull run in 2016/2017. I participated in projects that are highly rated such as Aion and Pundi X, there were time that this token went up became 5x of the crowdsale price but immediately the price of bitcoin becomes bearish, all of them fell badly and up till now most of them have not even recover to make the crowdsales price not to talk about rising above that. But the sad truth is that most of the token you said you trusted must have been backed up by projects that have long being abandon making the token useless on the exchange

[princesspoppy]

To be honest, I'm not really a fan of holding altcoins even if it looks promising and will give a good amount of profit in the future. In the year 2017 and early 2018, yeah I can say that it really was a good year for altcoins, many projects gave high profit, but that is only possible if you sold them during those hype.Many projects tend to die after months or years in the market, it's either because it does not get a lot of attention from investors or the project itself is not a very useful to the crypto world or the project team abandoned it.

That is why I sell altcoins whenever I see a hype in its price in the market most especially after bounty distribution where it usually happen.

[suryana]

It depends on what coins you hold, until now I still hold some tokens that I got in 2017, and the price is still good, even though it is not like in 2017. Some ICO projects that I participated in 2017 were good projects so their coins still survive today.

[CucakRowo]

Question is, where do you get those coins from? Do you deliberately invest or get the coins from the bounty that you follow. If you did invest, my suggestion is, it would be better if you position yourself as a late investor. Meaning, buying a coin on an exchange after the project is 6 months old. Why? I have noticed, new coins take an average (minimum) of 6 months to pass the trial (buyer, seller, hype/FOMO, less fund for development, late roadmap, etc). Usually the hype occurs in the first 3 months since the coin is listed in exchangel. But usually after 3 months, the coin will experience a decrease in interest from investors. Remember, BTC need 5 years to attract investors.

[Sourhearrt]

Altcoins aren't reliable, it's better to invest very little money on them because altcoins can easily die at any time, many good projects came into this space in 2018 but after few years they turned dead, I belief in Bitcoin 100% compare to others

[matchi2011]

It depends on what coins you hold, until now I still hold some tokens that I got in 2017, and the price is still good, even though it is not like in 2017. Some ICO projects that I participated in 2017 were good projects so their coins still survive today.

Exactly, some are still progressing but unlike from that said year ico or new project today are very risky, some coins from 2017 still have good value maybe not the same run since from that year huge bull run really pumped most of the coins unlike today where there's no huge pumped.
Not meaningless but you have to study and do a good research before thinking of long term investment,make sure to hold good and progressive projects.

[kesmex]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

if you may know, what project are you taking part in since 2017/2018? If the project is still active now,
my advice is not to sell cheap coins that you hold

[ScamViruS]

2017 was the golden age for altcoin. There are no coins that did not pump in 2017. Lots of shitcoin then came on the market and robbed investors. What you said is true. There are lots of altcoin in the market of which only a few coins are good. Those coins can be hold. But there are some things to keep in mind when holding a coin, holding a coin does not mean that you will hold that coin for the rest of your life. You need set your profit target. Just as holding all altcoins is meaningless, so even after making a big profit holding that coins is meaningless.

[GelsoAM]

That's not the case all the time. there are coins out there that lead people to their first BTC. which can be shocking, but there are still coins out there that could be useless. The fact is in every way you look at it coins has it's risk and doubts. Imagine if you sell your coins right away and got a decent amount out of it but months later that same coin you sold for around let's say $0.05 per token is now $1. If you look at it you could have gain so much more if you have hold it just a few months. But still, there are still coins even for long term holding the market of the coin just won't budge, So just forget about it. because you have lost everything you've invested on that project money wise, theres nothing more to lose? right?

[jacafbiz]

Crypto tokens are like penny stocks, do not get excited enough with them and think this one is the new Ethereum, make your money and run. The most important thing in the space is not to lose money, if yu are not losing money on any project with time you will be fine.

[slashz9]

not at all, if you hold good coin then it wont happen like you hold that, some coin ico mostly of them are not survive for longtime so i suggest to sell coin like that if you have, some good coin like bnb,link,trx and other have a good price after longterm.

[Alexmagn84]

Not all coin good, if you're holding very faster development coin then you will make profits easly. I think unless and death project can give up also fake announced. Top coins cmc always good profitable but that's not mean all coin profitable.

[ololajulo]

I may disagree at some point.
 Holding tokens is meaningless of that particular token has no value at all. But we can still hold even for a long term the ones which are well established and are potential. Those who contributed useful platform in crypto industry.
 
 Whether you joined many bounties and take part of the reward coins, at the end the value of the token will be depends on the purpose, the investors and the product itself.

I think the strategy is changing, so those that delayed the selling of some of the altcoin in bear season and still keeping, may need research on the state of the project in the market, exchanges listed, the development and use case. I have the feeling that most projects that do not make some remarkable pull back in the present market state before bitcoin recovers to the ATH may be neglected by traders and might struggle to reach previous ATH and breaking it

[btcdie]

Keep in mind, after the pump will definitely dump, that's indeed the nature of the market. Altcoin specifically is not recommended for long-term investments. take the moment and immediately throw away if it's already a good profit. for the long term I only believe in crypto mothers "Bitcoin" and this is a sure future.

[sorrros]

I know how you feel, I still hold in my wallet coins like Savedroid or TheKey. Do you remember that? Their ICO tokens were sold in just a few minutes. And now? The price is more than 98% down.  

[pixie85]

Altcoins aren't reliable, it's better to invest very little money on them because altcoins can easily die at any time, many good projects came into this space in 2018 but after few years they turned dead, I belief in Bitcoin 100% compare to others

OP did not account for the BItcoin bear market. It's not the fault of the trusted projects that they failed and every time you invest there's a number of things to consider not only trust.

late 2017 was the worst time to buy crypto in the last 10 years.

[irixo10]

It is really painful what most people has seen in the hands of these scam projects, especially within that 2017 and 2018. However, I think holding is not completely meaningless as there are still good coins which are worth it starting with Bitcoin. Also, on the other hand, holding most new altcoins nowadays is very risky because majority of them are just for pump and dump, while some are just a means for the team to fill their pockets; therefore I have the opinion that most altcoins shouldn't be held for long.

[harapan]

not only you but most of the people in crypto have been destroyed by several ICOs in the past, even for now hold tokens are very risky so if there is a pump and we have benefited then immediately sell because immediately they will dump, never greedy. mate

[kentrolla]

not only you but most of the people in crypto have been destroyed by several ICOs in the past, even for now hold tokens are very risky so if there is a pump and we have benefited then immediately sell because immediately they will dump, never greedy. mate

Yeah but unfortunately we don't see any pumps nowadays and it's unbelievable how things have changed as I sued to hold tokens worth at least $13k from initial days of altcoin and greed took better control on my mind and I didn't sell it off as I wanted to earn more but now those tokens cannot even fetch me $2k. Moreover, 2019 was one of the worst years for altcoin with too many fake ICOs which created bad name for any new coin that enters the market.

[Denreal]

not only you but most of the people in crypto have been destroyed by several ICOs in the past, even for now hold tokens are very risky so if there is a pump and we have benefited then immediately sell because immediately they will dump, never greedy. mate

Yeah but unfortunately we don't see any pumps nowadays and it's unbelievable how things have changed as I sued to hold tokens worth at least $13k from initial days of altcoin and greed took better control on my mind and I didn't sell it off as I wanted to earn more but now those tokens cannot even fetch me $2k. Moreover, 2019 was one of the worst years for altcoin with too many fake ICOs which created bad name for any new coin that enters the market.

You should be glad you are getting something out of it. There are now so many dead projects, which were once active and alive. If the project is still existing and you are able to sell, it will be better you exchnage it or them for better ones, except you feel it still has prospects.
Had it been you were holding BTC, you would not have lamented so much as this.

[nikki4]

I know how you feel, I still hold in my wallet coins like Savedroid or TheKey. Do you remember that? Their ICO tokens were sold in just a few minutes. And now? The price is more than 98% down.  

Cryptocurrency golden time any ICO can make fake announcement as now low volume exchange is done by IEO. Fake volume exchange IEO is getting more successful than Binance, this is only a fake announcement. You are a very patient person. I hope you will get your rewards. Always be ready to sell your coins.

[coinfinger]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

That’s why you’re being told not to trust any new project. If you can’t deal with having to hold coins that ends up meaningless then you should stop buying and investing in small coins/projects and put your focus on the projects that are already well developed just like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and other top coins as well.

Some of these new projects can be very good, but it’s up to the team. There are teams that will come up with a very good idea but they won’t put the effort that is required to run that project and turn it into a success. In things like this, there are lots of works required: first you discover a good project as a team, but after you have done that, the next thing you have to do is to push it. You don’t just keep it there to market itself, the project is not going to automatically grow because it’s a good project. No matter how good a project is, it still needs the right team to do the right thing and promote it so that it will gain investors and become a success.

[Gorosden]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

It's your choice, most trusted project for you might be the worst projects for others, we make decisions base on our research, sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. Altcoin investments are high risk investment than Bitcoin, if you fail try to stand again, this time, better

[Utoy101]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I agree with you. However, virtually everyone knows that the future of start up projects are always uncertain and so is there coins because not all of them do see the end of the tunnel and that's why a lot of investors do sell of their tokens immediately after listing. Start up coins with potentials do tends to be the bad ones on the long run

[shinratensei_]

I know how you feel, I still hold in my wallet coins like Savedroid or TheKey. Do you remember that? Their ICO tokens were sold in just a few minutes. And now? The price is more than 98% down.  

Savedroid was a crap project but it looks like the key can't fulfill all of the promised that has already made by the developers. Even those projects sold in a few minutes doesn't mean they will have bright future. Did you remember decent? it's also a scam project.

[shoreno]

not meaningless if you only hodl an alt or a token that is already on the market for quite some time but it can be a disastrous if you pick a coin that is outside from that category  . ico coin era was mainly on dates that you describe but after those dates ico's era were gone too and slowly being replaced by the ieo's era   .   you said you arent the only one that experienced that so dont emote too much because others are just worster as they may invest too much back on that time  and all are wasted too   .

[lienfaye]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

It depends on the coin, if you invest in coins that has no use case and cant solve real problem then expect it to turn shitcoins.

Year 2017 is season of crypto because majority of coins are skyrocketing. If that time your coin has value you should sell it already. Nevertheless we didnt know what will going to happen later on, I also have regrets of not selling my tokens early 2018 I thought the price increase will be consistent but too late to sell because the value drop already.

[leea-1334]

Oh do not ever remind me about trusted projects. The ICO that I joined, they were 2 or 3 others that launched in the same few days. Mine was the BEST because the developers were trusted, the escrowers were famous trusted people, and there was even the best whitepaper and all that bla bla bla.

The other ICOs had nothing but THEY listed and got something out of it.

Mine scammed hehe:) So much drama and then the groups all got deleted.

[judeafante]

The only trusted projects or coins for me are those coins the top 5 even those on the spot 40 and up are still suspects, the market is highly volatile you should know that if you have invested coins that are not on the top 5 then you should follow these coins because you can be in a big loss if you do not.

[dragon695]

Oh do not ever remind me about trusted projects. The ICO that I joined, they were 2 or 3 others that launched in the same few days. Mine was the BEST because the developers were trusted, the escrowers were famous trusted people, and there was even the best whitepaper and all that bla bla bla.

The other ICOs had nothing but THEY listed and got something out of it.

Mine scammed hehe:) So much drama and then the groups all got deleted.

I don't know whether to laugh or to be sad cause I was in the same situation lol!! I'll never ever believe in anything that called "trusted" lol!! It's just too ridiculous that we put too much belief in anything on this market. Cryptocurrency market contains a lot of risks and we gotta know that!

[kayvie]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Holding a coin for the long term is really meaningless because there is no guarantee that the project will continue its development and its demand among investors. You should know that in the year 2017-2018, most created coins are just shitcoins, holding those kinds of token will only bring you nothing but regret.

[Davian144]

I agree with you. However, virtually everyone knows that the future of start up projects are always uncertain and so is there coins because not all of them do see the end of the tunnel and that's why a lot of investors do sell of their tokens immediately after listing. Start up coins with potentials do tends to be the bad ones on the long run

Yes, and I think it's very natural for investors to sell their tokens as soon as they are listed on the stock exchange, because they also want to get instant profits and make investments in other projects rather than just staying on one project with a long duration.

[Towerbreeze]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Many ICO projects are now worthless, some lose 98% value, I wonder how they will recover, I've learnt my lesson that when it comes to altcoins investment top altcoins will hardly become useless, new altcoins are unreliable

[Kotone]

The only trusted projects or coins for me are those coins the top 5 even those on the spot 40 and up are still suspects, the market is highly volatile you should know that if you have invested coins that are not on the top 5 then you should follow these coins because you can be in a big loss if you do not.

The ranking does not really guaranteed its being safe but it can be a good criteria. Even bitcoin is a risky investment product. All of cryptocurrency have their own risk factor but we can always depend on some facts about big market cap coins leaving us a choice of safe investment. Top 100 cmc coins are all good coins with considerable market cap but even in the past years there are some on the list that now struggling and died.

[SARA ISLAM]

Most of the ICOs in 2018 did not go up in price after being listed on the exchanger, I also had several holdings, I tried to talk to the team of a few coins, their answer was, look at the whole market, the same situation everywhere, what can we do now? For this reason, I do not pay much attention to the new altcoins and trade short and long with the old altcoins.

[Galley]

I have also been convinced more than once that it is better to sell at an affordable price than to keep tokens in the long term. Once my coins were worth something, but now you won’t get a penny for them. You can keep for the future, something serious, and not all this trash.

[Pomogator]

I have an identical situation. Only I did not invest in them, but I participated in bounty companies. I lost very little money, but it took a lot of time. It would be better to sell all the violas at once

[RealMalatesta]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Not just you, many people had shared similar complaint but you are only only one who still call them "trusted". In my opinion they never remained trusted but your lack of good due diligence, you worked/contributed to their ICO and holding till today. Do not mistake me, I am also holding few coins which peaked at some point of them but as of now got delisted from exchanges. Bitcoinwhite and helbiz are two of them worth mentioning here.

I have an identical situation. Only I did not invest in them, but I participated in bounty companies. I lost very little money, but it took a lot of time. It would be better to sell all the violas at once

Almost all bounty participants must be having similar situations. Just due to the reason of believing into their project developments, we opted to hold but that backfired all of us. People who rushed to sell the rewards had negatively contributed to them but they now seems too wise with their decision of not holding for longer period.

[dunfida]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Its meaningless for most of the time but there are few numbers which would possibly make you rich if you do able hold for long term but actually its hard to choose
on which one would really have the potential.I have tried lots of selections but majority of them failed and died in the end and only a few do able to manage to rise up
which is somewhat a good thing as long you do make money. Holding up shitcoin just because you do believe into its team and tech then it would really be
like a gamble imho.

[ife2020]

I would say that trusted projects did not make you run at loss investors, the ruins came to you due to lack of organization and poor decision making skills. Trusting a project to trade well and bring profits is important before investing.

You personally, taking profits when due without any biases is an important situation you need to master. No matter how bad a token is, it always leaves an opportunity to take profit

[Ibizugbe1]

You are not alone. Who could have thought that a Viabtc backed exchange as we were meant to believe could dump their token on the community and almost 90% or more investors lost out and were thrown into debt. Attempt to revive the exchange native token is still a problem because people are scared. Most ICO I bought in 2017 and 2018 are dead. I have since resume full time trading on good coins and promising ones.

[makishart]

I would say that trusted projects did not make you run at loss investors, the ruins came to you due to lack of organization and poor decision making skills. Trusting a project to trade well and bring profits is important before investing.

You personally, taking profits when due without any biases is an important situation you need to master. No matter how bad a token is, it always leaves an opportunity to take profit

I can't sure about that when so many people have been saying if they have been getting trapped at ATH. The position is also determining the result of these people who have invested in such project. It doesn't matter whether it's crap or good projects.

[Zeke_23]

You are not alone. Who could have thought that a Viabtc backed exchange as we were meant to believe could dump their token on the community and almost 90% or more investors lost out and were thrown into debt. Attempt to revive the exchange native token is still a problem because people are scared. Most ICO I bought in 2017 and 2018 are dead. I have since resume full time trading on good coins and promising ones.

I guess that we really can't predict the actions of developers when it comes to money and thinking of benefiting themselves, they won't even bother or take any considerations to their investors as long as they get the money they desire. There are a lot of same scenarios that happened in the year 2017-2018 where what matters is money and not the development.

[deathcode]

I can't sure about that when so many people have been saying if they have been getting trapped at ATH. The position is also determining the result of these people who have invested in such project. It doesn't matter whether it's crap or good projects.

those who are trapped I think are people who are greedy for the money they are investing. smart investors will not buy when the price reaches very high and goaded into buying it.

[Tervelatuk]

i think if our coin in long term have low price or maybe scammed us maybe its be our fault when analizing project. we have to review our capability in analizing project that will give us profits. choosing wrong portofolio  happen to many people and we were not alone in this condition. make it as experience and we will take good lesson in future.

[suryana]

Indeed, most old coins have drastically reduced prices, but that doesn't mean they have no potential anymore, I myself have hold several tokens since 2017 and I am sure when Altcoin season arrives, the price of old coins / tokens will also increase.

[Vishnu.Reang]

What I have learnt from my 4 years association with cryptocurrency is that there is no such thing like "trusted". We had a number of "trusted" exchanges, such as Mt Gox, Cryptopia and BTC-e, and all of them went down without any warning. Personally, I have never trusted any of the new projects, but I know a few people who poured in almost all of their funds in such coins. 

[MrMojoRising26]

Sucks to hear that, but at least you learned a lesson. You are not alone I'm sure most or all of us have lost money on a shitcoin at some point

[cryptoknightt]

not because of the project but indeed the market conditions that made many projects unable to survive because their token value depends on the value of BTC which at that time continued to decline after a very high increase.
only big and strong projects can survive.

[milandres0207]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

That depends on the altcoins you hold, but if the coins are like Nem, Rdd, Dogecoin, Dgb, Eth, and more I could
say there is a fair holding happening with these coins. Although, I also encountered that too from the coins I received from the bounty rewards where most of them turned into nothing now but a piece of shit, that's the reality happen in crypto space.

[basicnecromancycr]

The main problem here is actually the main problem of all crypto realm: You never know which projects should be trusted. The best thing to do trust your research and to make it possible, you need to learn how to review a project.

[rodskee]

not because of the project but indeed the market conditions that made many projects unable to survive because their token value depends on the value of BTC which at that time continued to decline after a very high increase.
only big and strong projects can survive.

The market condition still relying with how bitcoin moves, most of those well known alts who experienced decent pumped
are now experiencing declined.
It's depend from how supporters and investors continue following the progress of their selected assets, coins that have
strong communities are still surviving.
Be aware that investing to this types of business needs to have a lots of knowledge and skills.

[Dondeon]

You might have got on the wrong sides of the coins you are holding or probably your timing was wrong, to conclude that long term hodl is useless may be out of point because some hodl for long term and were smart enough to cash out at the right time. Nothing last forever, you need to understand that.

[TanakabZX]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Price spike in 2017 was caused by ICO hype, you got in at the wrong time, sorry to hear, ICOs aren't the most trusted projects for many, believe that, where is Bitcoin and Ethereum? At that point in 2017 I don't have the courage to buy top coins because they are at their ATH, I knew dump will happen later, your loss would have been little if you went for Bitcoin

[studio1one]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

The same thing happened to me as well during the 2017 bull run I kept holding coins because I trusted the teams too much but later they couldn't quite deliver the product. I had to sell the tokens later at a loss.

[GreenStox]

in 2017 where all coins experienced a very high increase because btc also rose.
so that almost all types of coins went up, even though there was no news or further development of each of these projects.
but in 2018 all of these increases turn into mass declines.
and the market was very weak at the time, this was also the main reason why many projects died, even though it was only released on the market, the reason was simple because the value of their tokens followed the btc.

[giammangiato]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

We must always evaluate the characteristics of the projects, many of the ico of the end of 2017 have failed miserably, unfortunately they have been a mere speculation. But I am confident of new projects that are emerging, surely now we are all more aware of how to evaluate a project / token

[josgandosbro]

not because of the project but indeed the market conditions that made many projects unable to survive because their token value depends on the value of BTC which at that time continued to decline after a very high increase.
only big and strong projects can survive.

besides that the product in the project cannot attract many people so the price is getting dump, if their product is still in high demand, the price won't dump too much

[elewton]

in 2017 where all coins experienced a very high increase because btc also rose.
so that almost all types of coins went up, even though there was no news or further development of each of these projects.
but in 2018 all of these increases turn into mass declines.
and the market was very weak at the time, this was also the main reason why many projects died, even though it was only released on the market, the reason was simple because the value of their tokens followed the btc.

To be fair, we can't blame BTC for other coins' dumps! The reason is that other coins should have their own plan to get rid of the effects of the market! We have to admit that BTC has a huge effects on other coins' value. However, when the crisis comes, every single coin in the market are affected. We have to question that why other coins still alive but some don't?

[doctor877]

It's about the purpose of holding. Some just fall in love with a project and just hold for long. However, if you are in for profit then you should not be greedy and be satisfied with whatever profit that comes your way over time.  You can't just expect the price to keep going up and up. Taking profit when due is the secret to long term holding.

[layoutph]

Year 2016 to 2017 were the bread and butter years for crypto. That time even the most shitty altcoin are goin up because Bitcoin is running bullrun. We cannot expect the scam and legit projects of 2018 to bring something good as all altcoins are pegging their price over Bitcoin. Lets wait for the next bull run. The glory of crypto will rise soon.

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

[bellaayu]

I think everyone also feels the same thing. When the year 2017-2018 there are still many successful altcoins. However, Altcoin has a high price when it is newly listed in Bursa and after that, the coin price starts to drop sharply. Some of my coins are also currently very low prices, but in the year 2018 have a decent selling value. Not all altcoins if on hold for the long haul, will have a high selling value.

If you want a long-term investment that has a good future is Bitcoin and Ethereum.

[fvb]

I looked back and analyzed all the projects whose tokens I sold.  At the moment, the price is much lower than when I received them.  I think it’s good that I sold it. But I still keep some, because I believe in perspective.

[SacriFries11]

I looked back and analyzed all the projects whose tokens I sold.  At the moment, the price is much lower than when I received them.  I think it’s good that I sold it. But I still keep some, because I believe in perspective.

I quickly sold my tokens when I already received it with I know that its a good to sell it. I sold them when the price hits at its ICO price. I don't want to risk it more knowing that it could possibly dump after it hits at ICO price or after it pump. I don't doubted that I sold them already. I just hold Bitcoin instead of them. Almost all the previous tokens that I hold are nothing now. Its only cost about few cents.

[pungopete468]

Do not choose too many projects to invest in, just choose a number of projects that are trusted in terms of concepts already realized and running. than we speculate further about a project. we both know what happened to crypto that most projects also failed to realize their project

[abel1337]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

As your experience if you sell your coins now, you will be disappointed again. Take your steps as cryptocurrency market situations. Unfortunately, at that time I lost a lot of money for holding tokens and coins. Always fix the selling price before you buy any coins. To buy coins, a price dump should be needed. I don't think now any projects will ruin your money and time.

That's right, We should always consider the situation and the environment especially if you are investing in assets with value, It's like in our situation right now. Most stock assets are greatly affected by this pandemic which causes some assets to fall into their all-time low. OP's situation before was the worst timing to hold some crypto assets because the hype of bitcoin was starting to faze and it causes altcoins to go dump also, As of now there are tokens that never recovered from the disaster back then, I also hold some tokens that never recovered from that situation and all I can do is move on from it. I just accepted it just like I was out of luck and dumb that time trusting different projects that they can recover.

[trauchot]

Unfortunately this is truth, therefore, it is necessary to constantly monitor all the projects in which you invested, because at any moment any project can close, therefore, I was monitoring always all projects and already many interesting projects in which I invested are closed and many of them brought me losses.

[10BTCaDay]

Do not choose too many projects to invest in, just choose a number of projects that are trusted in terms of concepts already realized and running. than we speculate further about a project. we both know what happened to crypto that most projects also failed to realize their project

Now you can not trust any crypto projects that appear on the market. and even those that already exist for several years may collapse and you will lose your money. so I choose a large portfolio strategy

[dunfida]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

As your experience if you sell your coins now, you will be disappointed again. Take your steps as cryptocurrency market situations. Unfortunately, at that time I lost a lot of money for holding tokens and coins. Always fix the selling price before you buy any coins. To buy coins, a price dump should be needed. I don't think now any projects will ruin your money and time.

That's right, We should always consider the situation and the environment especially if you are investing in assets with value, It's like in our situation right now. Most stock assets are greatly affected by this pandemic which causes some assets to fall into their all-time low. OP's situation before was the worst timing to hold some crypto assets because the hype of bitcoin was starting to faze and it causes altcoins to go dump also, As of now there are tokens that never recovered from the disaster back then, I also hold some tokens that never recovered from that situation and all I can do is move on from it. I just accepted it just like I was out of luck and dumb that time trusting different projects that they can recover.

I highly believe that most of us do really have that kind of experience ending up on holding a shitcoin into our bags.Its really impossible for some one
for him not able to do or experience.We thought that a certain project is really worth to invest and wait but it turns out to be a shit in the end of the day.
This is why this market is so unpredictable even if you do saw that a project is good and the team behind it, we cant still assure if it would able to succeed
in the end of the line.This is always been part of the risk when we do talk about investment so we should at least anticipate it.

[lienfaye]

I highly believe that most of us do really have that kind of experience ending up on holding a shitcoin into our bags.Its really impossible for some one
for him not able to do or experience.We thought that a certain project is really worth to invest and wait but it turns out to be a shit in the end of the day.
This is why this market is so unpredictable even if you do saw that a project is good and the team behind it, we cant still assure if it would able to succeed
in the end of the line.This is always been part of the risk when we do talk about investment so we should at least anticipate it.

Indeed and its part of investing, we cant guarantee a 100% return because it has risk so if you experience failing to the coins you invested in dont feel bad because thats the risk we have to take. What important is we learn and careful now when we invest in coins/tokens. Long term holding is still profitable we just need to choose a coin that has real uses and worth to hold.

[koang]

Indeed, most old coins have drastically reduced prices, but that doesn't mean they have no potential anymore, I myself have hold several tokens since 2017 and I am sure when Altcoin season arrives, the price of old coins / tokens will also increase.

That depends on the altcoin you hold, if you hold a coin/token that has a usecase
and the project is still running, this clearly has potential.
But if you hold shit coins from dead projects, like Mnx Coin.Forget it...
It is a futile waiting

[DabsPoorVersion]

Indeed, most old coins have drastically reduced prices, but that doesn't mean they have no potential anymore, I myself have hold several tokens since 2017 and I am sure when Altcoin season arrives, the price of old coins / tokens will also increase.

That depends on the altcoin you hold, if you hold a coin/token that has a usecase
and the project is still running, this clearly has potential.
But if you hold shit coins from dead projects, like Mnx Coin.Forget it...
It is a futile waiting

I do agree,

It is still depends on the altcoin that you are holding. If it is something such as you said, then there is no point of holding because even if it looks like a trusted project, it will only be a waste of time and effort for holding in a long term.

[miklesm]

It is true that about 99% of all cryptocurrencies with ICOs held in 2017 are now traded at really low price levels or even dead. It shows that there is no reason to hold the most coins for a long term.

[TopTort777]

That depends on the altcoin you hold, if you hold a coin/token that has a usecase
and the project is still running, this clearly has potential.
But if you hold shit coins from dead projects, like Mnx Coin.Forget it...
It is a futile waiting

What is your opinion on Waves? Altcoin is among top100 alt, have running product and Waves DEX is a popular place to trade. Devs are doing thing from time to time.
Despite all that I've already market this alt as a dead coin or bad investment. I've been holding Waves for more than 1 year, and during that time my invested 100 bucks now worth ~34.

[LazerPanther]

It is true that about 99% of all cryptocurrencies with ICOs held in 2017 are now traded at really low price levels or even dead. It shows that there is no reason to hold the most coins for a long term.

Hold altcoins in the long run is suicide, even those are the leading altcoins in this market. If you invest in altcoins, you need to have a clear strategy and should only invest short term and make a profit from it.

[rexxarofmoknathal]

Just because you trusted them, doesn't mean that they're capable of actually delivering one their promises.

There's a reason why IPOs are only available to accredited investors... Because only these people know the market enough to understand the risks that are involved and properly conduct a risk assessment.

You invested your money, almost certainly with little to no investment experience, thinking you're going to get rich no doubt. Look where that landed you.

[Nnuego]

Those tokens you hodl are now worthless due to you miss the bull run. Although you didn't see it coming that bull run would only last in 2017. It's a pity it happens that way.
You should hope on a better day's ahead, that the coins you hodl now won't end up the same way

[StephenJH]

It is true that about 99% of all cryptocurrencies with ICOs held in 2017 are now traded at really low price levels or even dead. It shows that there is no reason to hold the most coins for a long term.

l do agree with your opinion, most of the projects are just useless as you above mentioned. More than that it is just wasting time, as you know there was more chance to make profit from projects, but it is just so different at the current time. About long term investment, in my mind top altcoins are a good choice for long term investment, on the other hand, you will not get profit for most coins for the long term.

[Psynthax]

It is true that about 99% of all cryptocurrencies with ICOs held in 2017 are now traded at really low price levels or even dead. It shows that there is no reason to hold the most coins for a long term.

Those projects who have traded below the initial price are the failed icons. That means if they have no product and they have no competence to compete with the project that can create a good product,

Even a new project is much better.

[TopT3ns]

It is true that about 99% of all cryptocurrencies with ICOs held in 2017 are now traded at really low price levels or even dead. It shows that there is no reason to hold the most coins for a long term.

Those projects who have traded below the initial price are the failed icons. That means if they have no product and they have no competence to compete with the project that can create a good product,

Even a new project is much better.

gathering or offering a project that uses the ICO method is no longer profitable and no one is interested in ICO because at this time everyone prefers to use the IEO method which is still a bit safe but IEO can be said to be a safe place when in a trusted exchange place such as a Binance or KuCoin exchange place.

[Woodie]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I suppose this was the period most coins were posting all time highs

bitcoin "the great" too was riding high which every altcoin out there rode the pump.

Unfortunately things happened so fast and crypto markets crashed which in all honesty was not about a bad investment,

but rather a bear market.

[Hippocrypto]

It is true that about 99% of all cryptocurrencies with ICOs held in 2017 are now traded at really low price levels or even dead. It shows that there is no reason to hold the most coins for a long term.

Those projects who have traded below the initial price are the failed icons. That means if they have no product and they have no competence to compete with the project that can create a good product,

Even a new project is much better.

gathering or offering a project that uses the ICO method is no longer profitable and no one is interested in ICO because at this time everyone prefers to use the IEO method which is still a bit safe but IEO can be said to be a safe place when in a trusted exchange place such as a Binance or KuCoin exchange place.

I still can't see the positiveness of an IEO until such time bitcoin market will subside. Though there's a huge factor that will help it become successful like taking support from biggest exchanges, it doesn't guarantee 100% as long as people's demand will take over. We should monitor realtime in order to be updated constantly.

[bitkanu]

That depends on the altcoin you hold, if you hold a coin/token that has a usecase
and the project is still running, this clearly has potential.
But if you hold shit coins from dead projects, like Mnx Coin.Forget it...
It is a futile waiting

What is your opinion on Waves? Altcoin is among top100 alt, have running product and Waves DEX is a popular place to trade. Devs are doing thing from time to time.
Despite all that I've already market this alt as a dead coin or bad investment. I've been holding Waves for more than 1 year, and during that time my invested 100 bucks now worth ~34.

The waves team has already involved in the scam project called coinomat and so many people have been accusing the team and the team didn't even give a short response to these accusations. Waves is totally a crap investment today.

[Synaesthesia]

It is true that about 99% of all cryptocurrencies with ICOs held in 2017 are now traded at really low price levels or even dead. It shows that there is no reason to hold the most coins for a long term.

Hold altcoins in the long run is suicide, even those are the leading altcoins in this market. If you invest in altcoins, you need to have a clear strategy and should only invest short term and make a profit from it.

Before investing, I always planned a lot because if you make a mistake in investing, you will definitely lose money in this market. I think I should only choose to invest in coins that have potential and can increase when big news comes out. However, it is impossible to foresee anything as the market will often depend a lot on the price of Bitcoin, so if the coin goes up, your investments will yield greater profits.

[_IRMAN]

I think I should only choose to invest in coins that have potential and can increase when big news comes out. However, it is impossible to foresee anything as the market will often depend a lot on the price of Bitcoin, so if the coin goes up, your investments will yield greater profits.

How do you find out which coins have the potential to rise when there is good news, I once tried to buy coins when good news came, but it did not affect the price movement.

[andra73]

I think I should only choose to invest in coins that have potential and can increase when big news comes out. However, it is impossible to foresee anything as the market will often depend a lot on the price of Bitcoin, so if the coin goes up, your investments will yield greater profits.

How do you find out which coins have the potential to rise when there is good news, I once tried to buy coins when good news came, but it did not affect the price movement.

I guess it's the same as gambling. no one guarantees an improvement after news and update. we see LTC and BTC also in this year's update and not bringing about an increase. not all renewal processes and good news will create positive sentiment to increase market demand.

[koang]

What is your opinion on Waves? Altcoin is among top100 alt, have running product and Waves DEX is a popular place to trade. Devs are doing thing from time to time.
Despite all that I've already market this alt as a dead coin or bad investment. I've been holding Waves for more than 1 year, and during that time my invested 100 bucks now worth ~34.

Waves? I don't like it, I prefer Ethereum

Best advice about investing in cryptos is don't get emotionally attached to them.
If  things don't smell right, get out, and that's what I did
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839624.0

[shaheer001]

I totally agree with you, holding coins except Ethereum and Bitcoin is very risky and maybe the all your assets become zero or equal to pennies. si, whenever you are in profit, sell all the coins.

[Taufik blackspade team]

I totally agree with you, holding coins except Ethereum and Bitcoin is very risky and maybe the all your assets become zero or equal to pennies. si, whenever you are in profit, sell all the coins.

Is that a lesson for a good investment? if you look at the market today. many potential and trustworthy assets have been born. now there is not only BTC and ETH. You must upgrade your knowledge.

[aditasetia123]

I totally agree with you, holding coins except Ethereum and Bitcoin is very risky and maybe the all your assets become zero or equal to pennies. si, whenever you are in profit, sell all the coins.

there are many coins outside bitcoin and ethereum have big potency to be bright project in future. as cryptocurrency investors we must analize coins which is be sleeping giant at this moment so in future if we invest on it huge profits will be ours . but we must have clear rule to pick this project so will not trapped in fake project.

[siddartha1492]

Ya I guess for long term only Bitcoin and ETH are worth holding. All others are maybe good for few years max, but then usually drop in value. Just see EOS. Biggest ICO till date and even after 2 years still around 10x less value from the original ICO value. And some projects that try really hard may also fail due to complex regulations by govt. or simply no demand for their product in market.

[bits4books]

Good afternoon Mr. Colombo!
It was not very smart to think that your favorite projects will really live forever and not follow the market, news and all the rest. Consider that this is the most important lesson that we should all take - you can not trust anyone, especially you can not trust "successful and favorite" projects and always be ready to minimize losses.

[Gayong88]

2017 is an exciting year where everything is worth and in 2018 a year of struggle where we are asked to be more selective in choosing both investments and making transactions.

[barlo357]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

The year you've mention are the times where cryptocurrencies are trending. Since the trend, there are people attempted to make a project with crypto as a means of trading, making most of the projects are not as good as before. I can tell that you are based on ICO review sites, which are some people who rate it have low standards and not doing the review well even those heavyweights on reviewing have no idea that the project is shit. The aftermath of the trend is that more and more projects emerged, and mostly became shitcoins. It is just a pure luck having a great profit on the crypto scene nowadays and after that trend. I feel sorry for your lost. I know that it is cliche that research is the most you need to do before investing in crypto but it is the truth and also invest on your own risk.

[mace15]

2017 is an exciting year where everything is worth and in 2018 a year of struggle where we are asked to be more selective in choosing both investments and making transactions.

Those were the year that price is in bull run stage, also when it comes to holding long term this does not guaranteed of returning of profit. Well the fact is not all coins can be profitable. And making some research indeed before investing a coin.

[gamer4156]

There are a lot of project in crypto market so we need to see what is good or bad this project, I have a many project doing market in crypto currency. We need green trusted bounty project will be successful. Many people are doing ico after bounty campaign so get more Profit from it. After ended ico project get Token and listed exchange this coin.

[Vishnu.Reang]

2017 is an exciting year where everything is worth and in 2018 a year of struggle where we are asked to be more selective in choosing both investments and making transactions.

Those were the year that price is in bull run stage, also when it comes to holding long term this does not guaranteed of returning of profit. Well the fact is not all coins can be profitable. And making some research indeed before investing a coin.

Back then, the number of new projects were low. Most of those new ones were quality projects. But the situation changed in 2018, when we had a flood of shitcoins. As a result, investors were hesitating even to invest in good projects. On top of that, there were scam projects as well, such as the PLUS Token. Unfortunately, the situation hasn't changed much since 2018. 

[bayudndy]

Ya I guess for long term only Bitcoin and ETH are worth holding. All others are maybe good for few years max, but then usually drop in value. Just see EOS. Biggest ICO till date and even after 2 years still around 10x less value from the original ICO value. And some projects that try really hard may also fail due to complex regulations by govt. or simply no demand for their product in market.

For Bitcoin and ETH, you will have a lot of profit if you hold them in the long term. Because those are the biggest cryptocurrencies in this market. And for altcoins, you need to be really careful because the price could collapse and die in the future. Also never invest long-term in new projects because I'm pretty sure they will go down many times compared to the prices of ICOs or IEOs.

[Rampagoe004]

Holding coins from the ICO project in the long run is very detrimental because it can only be a collection of our wallets as a result of the price that does not go up, so when we get the tokens from a project do not keep for so long if already had a few results should we sell immediately because waiting for a big value it is very impossible for now.

[minairia3]

Thats the market system. Sometime old project dies out on the process cause survival of altcoin in the long run will really rest waters before you can call it stable. Which projects on 2017 and 2018 are you talking about? But during that time almost all a lot of projects are boom due to bull run, however only few of them left now and still kicking.

2017 is an exciting year where everything is worth and in 2018 a year of struggle where we are asked to be more selective in choosing both investments and making transactions.

2018 is full of deception on market, what I thank is I only trusted major projects and not buying any shitcoins during that time.

[xFLORIDAx]

You just need to hold coins if you are confident in it and you understand the market well. If you thoughtlessly invest your money in little-known coins or tokens, then of course they will not bring you benefits or income.

[memed97]

You just need to hold coins if you are confident in it and you understand the market well. If you thoughtlessly invest your money in little-known coins or tokens, then of course they will not bring you benefits or income.

And belief in a coin that we hold can also be the opposite, because the crypto market conditions that are very difficult to predict make people a little worried when holding coins for a long time, especially if the coins are coins that are not popular in crypto.

[iTradeChips]

I know many users who are upset at that they do not participate anymore in ICO's. One friend got around 110,000 tokens and he was happy because the company is active and all, only to find out that the company behind the token changed strategy and will no longer work on the project and the tokens suddenly became worthless. They demand - he and other bounty hunters that the company convert their tokens to the tokens of the new project but the company said they will think about it. Very sad.

[JeotQ]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

This is your fault, something I've done in the past myself, seeing profits and refused to take them thinking the price will keep surging, in crypto space surging don't last forever, always take profit while there are pumps

[bison]

And belief in a coin that we hold can also be the opposite, because the crypto market conditions that are very difficult to predict make people a little worried when holding coins for a long time, especially if the coins are coins that are not popular in crypto.

holding coins unpopular for a long time is a bad choice. it's like saving a time bomb that will lose your money. assets are not popular but have attractive trades and values ​​suitable only for short-term and daily trading. saving them for the long term is really a bad choice.

[mezzaluna]

These kind of things really happen. There are always situations where we win some or we lose some. We just need to always look forward for us to gain profit in some projects. Some projects are not always successful because some are only hyped up by some made up influencer and we need to stay vigilant for these kinds of projects. We can do some background checks on they supporters and if we see them trustworthy then go invest on them.

[mace15]

These happen to anyone, holding coin long term cannot give you an assurance of earning profit. There’s an instance at first the project is good but no improvement. Also always observed the project and we need to do diligence when making an investment in crypto. .

[joinfree]

It hurts the most when you analyze when a good working project just exited scam because of pure greed. I am sure all members who took part in Miracle tell project and would realized that this project gained adoption as well as usage. Everything was working all right till the team members decided to abscond with the funds.

[shinratensei_]

These happen to anyone, holding coin long term cannot give you an assurance of earning profit. There’s an instance at first the project is good but no improvement. Also always observed the project and we need to do diligence when making an investment in crypto. .

If the projects give good results and it will be giving a positive impact on the price and OP will not lose his profit. This thing ever happened in my life and the observation for our portfolios must be done anytime to avoid the possibility for us to get nothing from our portfolios.

[TIDOVEE]

Holding token for long term may not be meaningless, however how meaningful it should be depends on you, most of the tokens hodl after the 2017 bull run was just the choice of many of us with the mind that it would rise back soon, until it became a disappointing value and we had no choice than to rather leave it. Just holding token without smart target and use like in those moment made it meaningless.

[lienfaye]

Holding token for long term may not be meaningless, however how meaningful it should be depends on you, most of the tokens hodl after the 2017 bull run was just the choice of many of us with the mind that it would rise back soon, until it became a disappointing value and we had no choice than to rather leave it. Just holding token without smart target and use like in those moment made it meaningless.

In my case I missed the chance to sell early of 2018 when most altcoins are soaring high. When the price of my tokens decreased a bit, I didnt sell because of the thought that it can return to its high price. However it didnt manage to recover back and now im still holding it, still tradable but not worth to sell so im still waiting for an acceptable value to sell.

[Yatsan]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

It is not actually meaningless because in the span of time you were holding those coins, there might come a time that you see that there is still an improvement on the prices of those coins. It is just that it doesn't meet your expectations because you were still stuck on thinking and comparing the happenings on the year 2017 and early 2018.

There are lots of happenings that brought changes on the behavior of those coins when it comes to usage, importance that also affect its price which some or most of the coins you hold from 2017 to 2018 turns out to be invaluable anymore. But, not all coins are like that because there are still coins from those year that have still survived and make an improvement although it was a little bit far from the price expected, well at least you can still gain from holding those so it is not literally meaningless. Just be thankful enough if the coins you were holding do still have value or still undergoing improvement on its price because it is still an important detail that is in need to be notice.

[suryapro]

Why rushing into quick conclusion? Holding for a very long time is not meaningless, it only depends on the type of coin you are holding and what they have to over the crypto community, you can always hold a good coin for as many years as you like, ETH, XLM, TRX etc Hold this top altcoins for a long time and secure a meaningful future for yourself.

[Perfect35]

I have always hold unto this and that is that no project should be trusted to the core. You might like the concept of the project and the project itself might have a good layout, but the team through their actions and inactions, might cause the death of the project or the project might plummet beyond a reasonable doubt. I only hold for long, coins that are already established.

[tippytoes]

I have always hold unto this and that is that no project should be trusted to the core. You might like the concept of the project and the project itself might have a good layout, but the team through their actions and inactions, might cause the death of the project or the project might plummet beyond a reasonable doubt. I only hold for long, coins that are already established.

That's why it is better to discard fast those tokens or coins that you got from bounty hunting. Because the probability of losing its value is very high. If you will wait too long, you will find out that either they are already delisted in the exchange or the value is already down to 1 sat. Up until now, only the established ones remain to have value like of course btc and eth.

[dainoran]

in 2017 - 2018 I have a token which is very profitable for me and profitable up to $ 5,000, but indeed in recent years the token is quite disappointing, but I still hope the potential will benefit from tokens and coins.

[TitanGEL]

It is not trusted anymore, everything change so a good projects nowadays doesn't mean it will become a good project in many years. There are some who are just good in the beginning but their true nature reveal after few months. Many projects before are now worthless, I also have a reliable altcoin before but now it is one of the shitcoins that we should dispose. I think it is really better to research and to understand the market whenever we will buy a altcoin or participate in the project on the market.

[dragon695]

It is not trusted anymore, everything change so a good projects nowadays doesn't mean it will become a good project in many years. There are some who are just good in the beginning but their true nature reveal after few months. Many projects before are now worthless, I also have a reliable altcoin before but now it is one of the shitcoins that we should dispose. I think it is really better to research and to understand the market whenever we will buy a altcoin or participate in the project on the market.

To be clear, there's no TRUSTED thing in the business field, especially in the cryptocurrency market. We all have to be a little bit skeptical even with the most "trusted" project. We all know that we have no guarantee in this market, though, the only thing we can trust is ourselves. Sometimes, being skeptical will be helpful for us in avoiding risks!

[Botnake]

in 2017 - 2018 I have a token which is very profitable for me and profitable up to $ 5,000, but indeed in recent years the token is quite disappointing, but I still hope the potential will benefit from tokens and coins.

I hope you are alright man, you are not alone, a lot of us have that kind of experience, I even have more that until now I'm still holding it but looking at its value, it's very disappointing. Just consider it as part of the journey, sometimes we make mistakes but what's important is we keep learning to improve and correct it, this coming bull run (hopefully will come soon) , we should be smarter and must do the right decision and that is not to be greedy.

[Ezravdb]

Holding multiple Coins does have a greater risk prospective meaning if the token that you hold is an Ico coin which we cannot predict future developments because some developers only give sweet promises to investors. I am sorry for your loss, hopefully in the future you can be more careful in investing.

[rahmatullah9305]

in 2017 - 2018 I have a token which is very profitable for me and profitable up to $ 5,000, but indeed in recent years the token is quite disappointing, but I still hope the potential will benefit from tokens and coins.

If tokens and coins that you have had can make a profit of up to $ 5,000 during 2017 - 2018, but you forgot to sell it at that time, then you will not get that much profit on that token or coin at this time, because the token or coin is no longer being developed by the team, it will be difficult to increase prices after falling prices in the past.

[Bananington]

Holding coins for long term is not meaningless, countering the view of OP. Before investing long term on any coin, be rest assured its what you can afford to lose, and also be very sure the project has a working product and very wonderful backings, not only a good team. You might make fast gains on some coins short term, but it doesn't mean long term hold is entirely bad. Same way you can lose funds on short term trading. It all depends on what works for you IMO. I held BAND and TOMO long term and recently sold 75% of my bag with very cool profit.

[Fredomago]

Holding multiple Coins does have a greater risk prospective meaning if the token that you hold is an Ico coin which we cannot predict future developments because some developers only give sweet promises to investors.

Most of the time, initial coins are too good with so many promises but in the real world, they are not doing anything so risk really high with
investing your money with kinds of investment.

I am sorry for your loss, hopefully in the future you can be more careful in investing.

Moving forward, you should go on and try other venture but needs to be more careful the next time you invest again.

[Icologies]

many projects when is believed be to long term which happens to wilt slowly and can just disappear, my advice before buying a coin must be really careful especially the coin will be made for the long term

[pragna]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Yea, i think holding for many times is meaningless. I can say for PKT coin when i got that coin its price was 1k$+ but everybody said its price will be double or triple so i hold that coin and lastly i sold that coin after 1.5 year only 37$. Can you imagine it!! i think no but it happened. And i don't missed for 2nd time in MB8 coin managed by Yahoo. Everybody said it would be 1$ per token but i did not believe it and i sold my tokens with good prices and now MB8 coin price is nill in market. So i suggest you sell instant and get money.

Thanks.

[Desscount]

in 2017 - 2018 I have a token which is very profitable for me and profitable up to $ 5,000, but indeed in recent years the token is quite disappointing, but I still hope the potential will benefit from tokens and coins.

If tokens and coins that you have had can make a profit of up to $ 5,000 during 2017 - 2018, but you forgot to sell it at that time, then you will not get that much profit on that token or coin at this time, because the token or coin is no longer being developed by the team, it will be difficult to increase prices after falling prices in the past.

if he has coins or tokens from a clear project, such as XLM or Tron,
don't need to worry, in the future we can still have a chance of getting $ 5,000, still hold

[Almasani]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

You have misunderstood which coins to hold and which coins should be sold immediately.
You buy coins that are already popular and you hold in the long run, of course, you have got a big profit now. But if the coin or token is the result of ICO or IEO, I think it is still fifty - fifty.

[FairUser]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I also held a lot of tokens from 2017-2018. There was a time when those altcoins were very profitable for me, but I didn't sell them. Now their prices have dropped hundreds of times and become worthless, all because of greed and ignorance in this market.

[btcholder]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

Holding token or coin for long term is not meaningless but if you choose not legit project then it'll make you suffer for sure. I understand that before you invest on those project you definitely investigate. But i am pretty sure that you weren't alert more. The time you are talking about was haven for crypto currency.   Almost every coin was doing pretty good but after that every coin dump pretty hard even btc. And it's true that 98% projects are useless right now which from late 2017 - early 2018. Other hand holding altcoin (most of them) is too much risky now days.

So if you wanna hold cryopto coin then choose btc. Because BTC is the only coin you can trust and this the only coin which pump more than other after 2018 incident.

[mirakal]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

I also held a lot of tokens from 2017-2018. There was a time when those altcoins were very profitable for me, but I didn't sell them. Now their prices have dropped hundreds of times and become worthless, all because of greed and ignorance in this market.

That's probably the experience of some, those times, we thought the market will continue to be bullish and we got so greedy as they are pumping like crazy, so we are like being hypnotize by the word "HODL", and despite seeing the market going down, we still trust our that word until it we are already late in doing the dump, so there's no reason to dump when the price dropped 100 times or more already.

[JaoBadjap]

Hodling altcoins in the long run, doesn't really means a good profit
bearish market like the last hype is unpredictable on when its going to occur again
and if so, would it be as big as what happened the last time
sometimes having faith on projects is more like a gamble, really.

[Shallow]

Actually, there is a reason why it has been said many times or rather why it is advisable to first research about a project before investing, this is because, it is your money and hence you have to take caution when investing in most projects and it has to be on your own terms and understanding not that of anyone who claims to be an expert, an influencer or a promoter, because whichever category the person falls in, he is doing it for his own pocket and once he gets his payment even if it's in the projects token he will still dump. Many people who has tagged one project or the other a trusted project only did that to bring more users to the project and get their pay, nothing more.
In addition, once a project you are holding isn't going as you want, there is no harm in dumping it and moving into a more trusted coin like Bitcoin.
Lastly, some altcoins are just good for short term profit, that is, once you see a good price, just sell and move on with your funds.

[Gunday_07]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

You held in the wrong time, in 2017 and 2018 crypto market was in huge bull season and that's the perfect time to sell coins not hold them, it's you that failed to understand how crypto market works and now I think another opportunity is around the corner, that is if you are still holding the altcoins, even those who invested on bitcoin @19k in 2017 are now in profit so anything can still happen

[Greatdev]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

It means you aren't good at picking the best projects, every coins and tokens have use cases the difference is some are better than others and some are not even needed at all, you need to work on how you do research on projects and the best coins to hold are popular altcoins, if you are going to new coins go in with limited fund

[shiming]

If you trust him, it means that you have observed this project and you hold it for so long. I think you know the project team very well, maybe. You should choose to continue, maybe the project team will have new actions. Maybe it will be resurrected. The crypto world is full of surprises. Of course the project must be reliable.

[CashbackLover]

Late 2017 and early 2018 i was holding lots of coins and tokens from the ico's in that some i really trusted with solution and team (not only me most of crypto community trusted). Now this coins or token became nothing . But some projects i entered  to sell for small margin profit these projects given profit . So holding token or coin for long term is meaningless.

The best season to let go of your ICO tokens was in January 2018 when all altcoins are surging, that was a very bad time to hold, you failed to understand how crypto works it is, most of those ICO projects are also looking for opportunities, they are not here to stay for ever, the same thing will happen with DeFi projects probably in 2021, after the bullrun is over many DeFi projects will die too