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June 13, 2020, 10:45:07 AM
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Hello all.

I've been investigating a few scams lately in preparation for starting a scam accusation thread. Today I received a message from mprep regarding a post I made over 1 year ago that he has deleted, quoting doxxing as the reason:

From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0:

Q: What about deleting DOXes?
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they comply with the following rules:

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1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.
<...>

Why aren't they deleted? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.

However, the post that was deleted was merely a direct quote from the original post made by the person/s responsible for the scams I am investigating & are still viewable on the forum for all to see:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3098967.msg32143800#msg32143800

I know that the person who is partly responsible for said scams has been trying to get his face removed from the scams he has perpetrated because of this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3098967.msg51038033#msg51038033

It was my reply to the above post containing the quoted material that was deleted, which I'm willing to post here if required. Plus there's the massive censorship of other threads this user is currently involved with.

So I guess my questions are:

How can a direct quote from a forum post be construed as being a doxx post when the original post is still in place?

If quoting a post is considered doxxing, why has it taken over 1 year to remove said post?

Similarly, if quoting a post is considered doxxing, why isn't every quote deleted?

Are we now at the stage where every scam accusation/quote belongs in the doxx/investigations thread?

I have replied to mprep requesting an explanation, but would be interested to hear the community's thoughts on this type of, what I consider to be, pressured/mistaken moderation.

Thanks for reading.



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June 13, 2020, 10:50:51 AM
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So I guess my questions are:

How can a direct quote from a forum post be construed as being a doxx post when the original post is still in place?

If quoting a post is considered doxxing, why has it taken over 1 year to remove said post?

Quote or no quote, if the post contains personal sensitive information then it will be considered as doxxing ofc.


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Similarly, if quoting a post is considered doxxing, why isn't every quote deleted?
Possibly the mod missed it and no one reported it yet.

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June 13, 2020, 10:53:57 AM
Last edit: June 13, 2020, 12:07:40 PM by blurryeyed
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So I guess my questions are:

How can a direct quote from a forum post be construed as being a doxx post when the original post is still in place?

If quoting a post is considered doxxing, why has it taken over 1 year to remove said post?

Quote or no quote, if the post contains personal sensitive information then it will be considered as doxxing ofc.


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Similarly, if quoting a post is considered doxxing, why isn't every quote deleted?
Possibly the mod missed it and no one reported it yet.

There was absolutely no personal info in the post whatsoever. It's the same info as the original post - a quote - with a reply.

Edit: Instead of reposting it here, I have uploaded the deleted post to postimage & it can be viewed here:

https://postimg.cc/XBv4pcVR

As can be seen, there is no personal info or private details contained in the post. The pictures are quoted from the original post by the "Team" which I referred to earlier:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3098967.msg32143800#msg32143800

There is absolutely no way this could be considered a doxx. It is a quote with a reply, nothing more.

Edit2:  I have received an answer from mprep, but I'm still none the wiser TBH. I have posted in the thread again using a revised format, an even simpler quote/reply that is used on every forum thread every day by every user - hopefully this will be OK for mprep:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3098967.msg54612402#msg54612402

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June 14, 2020, 06:17:55 AM
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You'd be surprised just how petty the mods can and do get when they start deleting posts by people on their distrust lists.  (Not to mention how many post reports go "unhandled" when it suits them)

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June 15, 2020, 10:59:56 AM
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Possibly the mod missed it and no one reported it yet.

I've had a clearer reply from mprep & it seems my re-post is within forum rules, although I'm sure the person who reported the original post will try to get it removed again as he only operates self moderated threads that he can control & doesn't like his previous activities mentioned in any of them.

You'd be surprised just how petty the mods can and do get when they start deleting posts by people on their distrust lists.  (Not to mention how many post reports go "unhandled" when it suits them)

I've not experienced any "petty" moderation while I've been a member here, in fact I think the majority of moderation is very well balanced. I think this was a case of a user trying desperately to hide his history of scamming & pressuring a moderator by twisting a few rules to his advantage. The fact that mprep got back to me twice & explained the situation to me is commendable & should be applauded.

Anyhooo, the post is still there so it looks like the issue is solved, until the user involved tries again I suppose:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3098967.msg54612402#msg54612402

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