Theymos vs Roger Ver (2:0)

[JayJuanGee]

Here he is back again...with his new creepy Youtube video
and explanation why bcash is better

Sep 27, 2019

'Bitcoin Core Is Slow and Unreliable - Roger Ver'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyYPmQgS7Pk
'see you on next video...'




He is so boring at this point...
I don't know what more to say

I had to abandon half way, dkbit98.  I am sorry.  I could not take it.

Roger's points are such non-representative bullshit, and so disingenuine, and relying on a period in which BTC's network was being spammed in late 2017 and early 2018 in order to get as much bang for the buck as he can from that money that nutjobs were then able to afford to spend on such attack, but apparently they could not continue to afford to continue to spam the bitcoin network in order to attempt to cause the same alleged slowness and expensiveness.

In other words, Roger and his fellow nutjobs are getting desperate.  They cannot afford to continue to attack the bitcoin network, so they rely on their old data to propagate non-representative bullshit.

I suspect that if any of the Bcashers are able to achieve a sufficient pumpening of their coin,  whether Bcash SV or Bcash ABC, they are going to use those proceeds to attempt to create the impression of another one of these kinds of spam attacks, but they are likely becoming so damned frustrated because it cost more and more to be able to spam BTC's network because of the ongoing rising of hashing power, and at the same time, their bullshit scam coin (attack vectors) are losing value faster than they are able to sufficiently keep up the value in order to be able to use resources from the price of their shitcoin(s)...

Probably a better idea would be for Roger and Craig to reunite, and join forces, maybe even add vitalik into the mix, and Justin Sun and a few other "leaders", and pool their resources.. because each project on its own is not really making any kind of meaningful dent against king daddy bitcoin.

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[dkbit98]

After all his videos and propaganda, Youtube decided to ban and delete Rogers youtube Bcash channel.
I don't like youtube deleting anyone channel, but I have to be honest and say I am not so sorry in this case.
RIP

Bcash youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/bitcoincomofficialchannel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCetxkZolEBHX47BqtZktbkg





However I do think it is time we slowly move away from youtube to some alternative platforms.


EDIT:

https://twitter.com/BitcoinCom/status/1272476443591802881

[ChiBitCTy]

Roger was fooled by CSW and has had his own coins hacked before, what more do you need to know that this guy is not someone you want to follow as a cryptocurrency expert and central figure over his unproven/untested coin.  He's also an unstable pathological liar, so there's that too.  He stated today (maybe yesterday) on twitter that bcash is anonymous ...news to me. It's really that simple when it comes to Ver.

[JollyGood]

It is an old post but deserves a reply. Yes prison time really does sound excessive but for some reason or another Ver was sentenced to serve time in jail. Am not too sure exactly how that would have affected his mindset which led him to leaving the US behind and giving up his US citizenship but he did return to attend some sort of events to talk about Bitcoin (and BCH).

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

[JayJuanGee]

It is an old post but deserves a reply. Yes prison time really does sound excessive but for some reason or another Ver was sentenced to serve time in jail. Am not too sure exactly how that would have affected his mindset which led him to leaving the US behind and giving up his US citizenship but he did return to attend some sort of events to talk about Bitcoin (and BCH).

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

He is one of those spoiled brats who never really had to account for his selfish behaviors, and even though he got a light sentence, he feels that he was treated unfair and punished excessively, so he never really has figured out ways to take responsibility for his own fuckups, whether current or historical.

Poor lil roger.       Always the victim, but never his fault.

[Timmzzy]

What really happened was that in 2012 he posted his Bitcoinica topic twice: once mistakenly in the Russian section, and once in the proper section. Then recently a Russian user happened to stumble across the Russian duplicate for some reason, reported it as non-Russian-language, and a Russian mod archived it. The real topic with replies was never touched. You can verify all of this with archive.org if you want.

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it), or if it's pure propaganda. I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

Well, sir you know in life one will definitely have a competitor. So is good you find it amusing with all the act he pulled up there. And not to take things too further. Once again Happy birthday sir

[JollyGood]

Ver made millions of USD$ off the back of being an early adopter but as time went by it seems he decided to follow a different route from the mainstream users.

Does being a whale give a right to own or control the future path of the whole crypto?

I could be wrong but it seems obvious his failure to effectively become a de-facto leader or controller of Bitcoin led to his passion to create BCH and his attempt to directly/inadvertently destroy or damage Bitcoin.

Quite sad to see his fall from grace actually, he could have been an ambassador for Bitcoin but ended up being regarded by many people as an ungrateful traitor to the very hand that made him a multi-millionaire.

It is an old post but deserves a reply. Yes prison time really does sound excessive but for some reason or another Ver was sentenced to serve time in jail. Am not too sure exactly how that would have affected his mindset which led him to leaving the US behind and giving up his US citizenship but he did return to attend some sort of events to talk about Bitcoin (and BCH).

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

He is one of those spoiled brats who never really had to account for his selfish behaviors, and even though he got a light sentence, he feels that he was treated unfair and punished excessively, so he never really has figured out ways to take responsibility for his own fuckups, whether current or historical.

Poor lil roger.       Always the victim, but never his fault.

[dkbit98]

Now Ver  is blaming 'Bitcoin core anti-competition maximalists false reported videos...' for reporting his videos and bringing down his Youtube channel.  
He does look very sad poor old chap... again talking how bitcoin is 'bad'.
source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/h95tfy/youtube_is_becoming_a_tool_for_social_media/

[JollyGood]

Does anybody know why Youtube removed his channel?

And was it the "BCH official" channel or the "Roger Ver official channel" that was removed?

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Now Ver  is blaming 'Bitcoin core anti-competition maximalists false reported videos...' for reporting his videos and bringing down his Youtube channel.  

[dkbit98]

Does anybody know why Youtube removed his channel?

And was it the BCH official channel or the Roger Ver official channel that was removed?

It was BCH official channel.
I wrote about that few posts above... terminated for violation of YouTube's Terms of Service.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180012.msg54620580#msg54620580

[JollyGood]

Do you know the specific reasons why the channel was removed? The generic reason given by Youtube explains nothing:

"This account has been terminated for a violation of YouTube's Terms of Service."

It would be interesting know what exactly Youtube what found to be in breach of their ToS

Does anybody know why Youtube removed his channel?

And was it the BCH official channel or the Roger Ver official channel that was removed?

It was BCH official channel.
I wrote about that few posts above... terminated for violation of YouTube's Terms of Service.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180012.msg54620580#msg54620580

[dkbit98]

Do you know the specific reasons why the channel was removed? The generic reason given by Youtube explains nothing:

"This account has been terminated for a violation of YouTube's Terms of Service."

It would be interesting know what exactly Youtube what found to be in breach of their ToS

Sure, but I think that only Ver and youtube stuff knows the true reason,
and in Ver's latest video on reddit he did not say much about this...

[hulla]

Do you know the specific reasons why the channel was removed? The generic reason given by Youtube explains nothing:

"This account has been terminated for a violation of YouTube's Terms of Service."

It would be interesting know what exactly Youtube what found to be in breach of their ToS

Sure, but I think that only Ver and youtube stuff knows the true reason,
and in Ver's latest video on reddit he did not say much about this...

Youtube permission and restiction are numerous but it clearly stated by Youtube that they can remove any content that breach their rules and regulations. However, I think his account was just penalized and not totally terminated because it all back on but it would have been something exciting if it totally terminated.
As stated by dkbit98 Ver understand the reason why the whole thing happened.

Removal of Content By YouTube
If we reasonably believe that any Content is in breach of this Agreement or may cause harm to YouTube, our users, or third parties, we may remove or take down some or all of such Content. We will notify you with the reason for our action unless we reasonably believe that to do so: (a) would violate the law or the direction of a legal enforcement authority, or would otherwise risk legal liability for YouTube or our Affiliates; (b) would compromise an investigation or the integrity or operation of the Service; or (c) would cause harm to any user, other third party, YouTube or our Affiliates. You can learn more about reporting and enforcement, including how to appeal on the Troubleshooting page of our Help Center.

[LTU_btc]

It would be interesting to know exact reason why his channel was banned. I haven't followed content of his channel, but I imagine what I kind of stuff it had. Actually, I have my Youtube channel (not related to crypto) and I don't like Youtube policy which is getting more and more ridiculous. But it's good that one source of disinformation is gone from Youtube.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Youtube might have pulled it because it could be seen as potentially deceiving people into buying BCH when they thought they were buying BTC.

It might come under some kind of T&C or legal stuff linked to tricking consumers into buying the wrong goods.

Ver’s got form for tricking dumb noobs into buying BCH instead of BTC on bitcoin.com