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June 21, 2020, 10:09:13 PM
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You heard it right, there is a tool that can calculate the odds of poker game and know your chances of winning.
I took a snapshot when tried to test how accurate it is but I saw that it will remain unpredictable against the odds of your opponent.
But have a try first before you will share your thought and probably it will works on you.


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The Poker Odds Calculator will help you calculate your chances on a given hand, in any situation. One of the most interesting features of the PokerNews Poker Odds Calculator is the guide on the right column, which will show you which cards should strengthen (green) or weaken (red) your hand.
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June 22, 2020, 05:29:11 AM
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Maybe that will be a perfect tool for the beginner, but for the veteran or pro poker player, they don't need the calculator because they know what it needs. However, as it is written on the quote, it can help every poker player know how big their chance to win the games. I wish I know these games much because I feel that it is difficult for me to understand the poker games Huh

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June 22, 2020, 02:34:25 PM
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I kindda say, this is beneficial for online gambling, but if you are playing poker in physical casino with live players, most of the time, the best of the best have a very good experience in memorizing the cards as it gives you the advantage to somehow guess with higher accuracy than just reading your opponent's mind and facial expression.

I just wonder if you could apply this tool especially when you are playing live in online poker games? For example, opening this tool on the other tab or monitor. If so, you are in a great advantage.
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June 22, 2020, 02:58:17 PM
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It's definitely helpful when you are still learning the game and also while mastering the game, you would always want to come back to such a calculator to do some hand reviews and improve your game.

But as you found out yourself with this.....

(...)but I saw that it will remain unpredictable against the odds of your opponent.

......the real difficulty with Poker lies in guessing and anticipating what your opponent(s) hold. And this is the biggest part. If you mastered to read your opponents on any level, you will be successful in Poker. Why ? Because most of the times you won't have the nuts, full house, a flush or trips, but one pair, two pair or even nothing. And when you have some kind of a hand, but there could be a shitload of better hands, that is where the problems start. If you are good at reading your opponent, you will be able to make good/valuable decisions and money as a result. And an odds calculator can't help you with that unfortunately Grin There is some software that can assist you with analyzing your opponents, but there is a big human factor, which all players have to work on themselves.

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June 22, 2020, 04:11:35 PM
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It will only be beneficial if you are trying out poker and learning the game. But against a real-life, money-at-stake setting, I doubt that it will be even useful especially on instances that a quick decision is needed. Poker isn't as easy as making an algorithm and letting the computer do the work; there are tons of factors that come to play when dealing with other people's hands. Luck also comes to play aside from being the better Nostradamus of all the players in the table. Most of the time you will be dealt with a shitton of useless cards and your opponent has the godly full house or whatever winning hand that could be, and you just have to guess when to back out or pull a bluff and win, and I don't think this tool would even know that. But yeah, for reviewing matches and learning the ropes of poker, this could be useful for a beginner, but not on the pro scene.

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June 22, 2020, 08:01:44 PM
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Maybe that will be a perfect tool for the beginner,.
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It's definitely helpful when you are still learning the game...
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..this could be useful for a beginner, but not on the pro scene.
^ All of you are definitely right, I realize that this calculator is good for beginners that did not know the correct handling of cards and which combination could defeat your opponent. Probably it could help you to master the poker game but not for instance that you can depend on this calculator algorithm all along. Nevertheless, a bluff from opponents that pretend has a better hand will have an impact in every decision you have. The calculator probably gives a percentage of your winning but it could not read a bluff fro your opponents.
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I just wonder if you could apply this tool especially when you are playing live in online poker games? For example, opening this tool on the other tab or monitor. If so, you are in a great advantage.
^ I already did this, sometime it will give accurate result but there are instances I made a wrong decision.
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June 22, 2020, 08:20:17 PM
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Probably it could help you to master the poker game but not for instance that you can depend on this calculator algorithm all along.

It could help you to be better only if you are new on this, otherwise it wont really help anything

Nevertheless, a bluff from opponents that pretend has a better hand will have an impact in every decision you have. The calculator probably gives a percentage of your winning but it could not read a bluff fro your opponents.

This calculator , calculate the chances for you to win with your respective cards against the other. Even if someone bluff, as long as you correctly input your card into that calculator then it will show you the chances

In the OP thread picture, there is a possiblity for a flush which loses against Full house at 48.21% however another possibility for Straight Flush at 40%. Knowing this chances, someone could easily take measurement not to raise too high as 40% chances to lose is quite high

So even if someone tried to bluff, you know their chances to beat you is around 40% with this calculator so you can either go for it or fold

I already did this, sometime it will give accurate result but there are instances I made a wrong decision.

would be hard to use this while concentrating on the game

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June 22, 2020, 08:36:27 PM
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It's definitely helpful when you are still learning the game and also while mastering the game, you would always want to come back to such a calculator to do some hand reviews and improve your game.

But as you found out yourself with this.....

(...)but I saw that it will remain unpredictable against the odds of your opponent.

......the real difficulty with Poker lies in guessing and anticipating what your opponent(s) hold. And this is the biggest part. If you mastered to read your opponents on any level, you will be successful in Poker. Why ? Because most of the times you won't have the nuts, full house, a flush or trips, but one pair, two pair or even nothing. And when you have some kind of a hand, but there could be a shitload of better hands, that is where the problems start.

this is where ranges come in. very seldom will you be able to read the exact hand your opponent is holding. usually you are playing against a range of possible hands, including the nuts, weaker made hands, draws, and pure bluffs.

a next level odds calculator i recommend is pokerstove: https://www.cardschat.com/poker-stove.php

it allows you to incorporate things like hand ranges, opponents with random hands, etc and is free.

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I disagree with the idea that this tool is good for beginners.

Instead of feeding their mind with proper basic knowledge, they will be getting used to using that tool to assist them in each of their session. Let these beginners squeezed their minds in order to win with their own skills as their foundation and reference.

That tool is way better to use by experienced ones as that will act as their additional reference alongside their own knowledge and skills about dealing with their opponents on the table.

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June 22, 2020, 09:55:24 PM
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I disagree with the idea that this tool is good for beginners.

Instead of feeding their mind with proper basic knowledge, they will be getting used to using that tool to assist them in each of their session. Let these beginners squeezed their minds in order to win with their own skills as their foundation and reference.

That tool is way better to use by experienced ones as that will act as their additional reference alongside their own knowledge and skills about dealing with their opponents on the table.

You got a point though but i can see that this one would really be beneficial for noobs.This might not really give out much knowledge but they would able to grasp everything when they do gain experience.

Sooner or later they will realize that this wont really be enough and they should take proper card handling to increase their odds which cant really be shown by this Tool.

Its a relevant one but we know that winning Poker does really need several factors too.

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Not really helping.

They still have some scenario someone has 9 Four Of King since on the table we have 9 Pair, this tools just make you confident doing all in then you got a trap with that's just because seeing the percentage of your winning rate.

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Awesome this will help me as I often might miss a possibility, I've only been playing vs friends on a friendly platform type game but I do think its good for people coming into the game.   A crutch is not a good idea in the long term but this could also be good for underlining the rules and this idea of contrasting your hand vs other possibles.
  As far as the OP bet goes I'd take take that risk as you wont often get full house but its a bit unfortunate in being a very rare straight flush there for anyone to take, at least the risk is clear not hidden.    Take the gamble seems profitable to me, try to avoid over stating your hand is how I'd go with that.   40% risk is too much to go all in but we cant say sitting here on the thread as people give extra clues in their behaviour at the time and judging the confidence they have etc.    If they were confident early on then you are good to go ahead as only on the river did you get your pay off thats unlikely to be beaten, unfortunately that also occurred for the straight flush.

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June 23, 2020, 02:40:48 AM
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I disagree with the idea that this tool is good for beginners.

Instead of feeding their mind with proper basic knowledge, they will be getting used to using that tool to assist them in each of their session. Let these beginners squeezed their minds in order to win with their own skills as their foundation and reference.

That tool is way better to use by experienced ones as that will act as their additional reference alongside their own knowledge and skills about dealing with their opponents on the table.
The beginners need to have basic knowledge of poker games, but with that additional tools, they will have a chance to improve their skills, and maybe they will know how to bluff the opponent. Maybe that will not work if the opponent is a master in the poker games, but if they can play among the beginner, that will help them to win. The experience poker games can also improve their skills by knowing how to bluff the opponent on the table.

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I really can't see myself sitting in a Casino and blurting out "Hang on people, I'll just check the odds of these two cards against the app in my pocket."

It *might* help you playing online, but I've seen Texas Hold Em can get pretty quick, so by the time you've entered details it's back to your turn again and everyone is waiting.

As an educational tool for someone starting out it could be ok, but people should familiarise themselves with the odds in play ahead of game day.

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Pretty much you can not use that in an actual game but it is kind of neat for an online match because certainly the application can see both hands, but it is not really that needed when playing your way out and you had the skill in winning a poker game, but for some newbies in the poker gamblig it will surely help them with making decisions if the calculator is applicable in that certain online poker game that they are playing which is most of the time they don't really have calculator like this.
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I think that this is a good tool or nice to have while you are playing as it can give you some guidance as to whether what to do next.For professional level players this maybe not the perfect tool but I think having a calculator right next to your screen while playing can be a good indicator of what to do next.For example when I am in doubt if to go all in or not this calculator can give me a small hint.

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I kindda say, this is beneficial for online gambling, but if you are playing poker in physical casino with live players, most of the time, the best of the best have a very good experience in memorizing the cards as it gives you the advantage to somehow guess with higher accuracy than just reading your opponent's mind and facial expression.

I just wonder if you could apply this tool especially when you are playing live in online poker games? For example, opening this tool on the other tab or monitor. If so, you are in a great advantage.

Yes you can use this even you are playing online and live poker games as it only requires a user input on what is currently your cards that you hold and the cards on the table. It only calculates the odds but there are a lot of possibilities in playing card games especially poker most especially if the players are more than 5, hence, accuracy is too blurry even with less players, the chances of their cards is too random, better call it luck if you followed the tool and still win.

I really can't see myself sitting in a Casino and blurting out "Hang on people, I'll just check the odds of these two cards against the app in my pocket."

It *might* help you playing online, but I've seen Texas Hold Em can get pretty quick, so by the time you've entered details it's back to your turn again and everyone is waiting.

As an educational tool for someone starting out it could be ok, but people should familiarise themselves with the odds in play ahead of game day.

Indeed. It's like pausing the game and just input all the necessary fields in the tool yet only calculates the possibilities but with no certainty. I've tried it but even if you input so many random numbers and tried it so many times, the chances remains 50-50 and your winning is either a 100% or 0%. LOL

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June 23, 2020, 06:11:42 AM
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This seems like a great tool for beginners to get better in poker. But once you play for a while you will be familiar with your calling and betting ranges. Eventually you know by heart from which positions you can play which cards.

To find any mistakes in your game it should be a good tool. In the end having a slightly higher winning rate might be nice, but if you can play 2 more tables at the same time with a little bit lower winnings but therefore more winnings. It's better to increase your numbers of tables you can play at once.

Don't forget there is a huge variance in poker involved. It might takes thousands of hands to actually see your higher winning rates.
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Uhhh...I think this built for educational purposes for learning the game and helping you to see every possible scenario. Kinda great practicing your poker skill while you're off the table.

It's a great tool for starters when you're trying to learn the game, but the tool is not applicable in a live game.

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June 23, 2020, 06:21:15 AM
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many factors can affect your game or on this game because this game is a mix of skill and luck  so fully reallying on this tool isnt really a good idea but odd calculator can only give you an overview or an estimation if what are the odds you can get on the game that your trying to play    .

 this tool is cool because its only specific for poker , this gives more better accuracy than compare to the general odd calculator that some gambling site provide  so still thank you this
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