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June 22, 2020, 01:34:58 AM
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I'm new to this site, and I want to start off by making good quality posts right from the get-go. I want to avoid becoming a "spam-poster", or anything of the sort and learn more about the forum. How would I know if my posts are considered spam or high enough quality? I plan to be insightful with my posts and only engage in conversations that seem productive.
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The answer is right in your question.
- Make constructive posts/replies
- Avoid habits like making one-liners with an aim of increasing your post coins. Replies like "Good luck"  ,  "nice project" etc
- Avoid referral link spam
- Avoid necroposting (replying in threads whose discussion ended several months back)

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If you read through the thread and you add your post to it, think to yourself the following question from a general perspective: "Did that additional post add anything to this thread? Did I gain something from reading that?"

If the answer is no, it is likely that you have either repeated similar ideas or you have not created anything constructive with your reply. If your answer is something vague or in the general realm of knowledge (i.e. buy low sell high), it's probably a great post.

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June 22, 2020, 03:31:10 AM
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Accidentally "maybe" I already answered the same question and answer, maybe, I also spam, if I do.

Therefore....!
OP, so that I avoid spam, the answer to OP is below:
Look carefully ... the questions and answers below.



Topic: post that is considered spam

Topic: Would this be considered spamming?

Topic: Question about reporting posts and whats considered spam IMO

Topic: How much spam is needed before we ban someone?



I hope, can help OP, some of the phenomena above.

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June 22, 2020, 04:31:54 AM
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According to our pinned post Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ


4. No referral code (ref link) spam.

1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.


Possibly considered as spam.
  • One liner thread
  • Spamming referral link
  • Trolling
  • Not constructive post



Also, you can visit the previously topic about Solutions for the spam problem?

With the help of our Search

I gathered all of these threads related to the spam post.
Suggestion to help stop spamming.
Trust spam / leaving trust whilst banned
Newbies spamming, bumping old topics
Alternative types of spam
The new kind of spam
How much spam is needed before we ban someone?

Those threads conclude that the most efficient way to report spam is Report to moderator.

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Also, you can visit the previously topic about Solutions for the spam problem?

With the help of our Search

I gathered all of these threads related to the spam post.
Suggestion to help stop spamming.
Trust spam / leaving trust whilst banned
Newbies spamming, bumping old topics
Alternative types of spam
The new kind of spam
How much spam is needed before we ban someone?

Those threads conclude that the most efficient way to report spam is Report to moderator.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.msg16904309#msg16904309

What counts as an unsubstantial or unconstructive post? There is obviously no set definition to what constitutes unconstructive posting as it is entirely subjective and is ultimately down to Staff opinion on what posts are constructive or not, but generally it is quite easy to spot a spammer posting only for payment. Spam can come in many forms, but a typical spammer's posts will often follow some sort of pattern which will be immediately obvious upon inspection and will usually consist of one or two sentences of rehashed opinion posted as fast as possible with the minimal amount of effort being put in. A quality/constructive poster will generally have no pattern to their posting history and will have posts ranging from one word to one sentence to several paragraphs and everything in between and this is what you should be aiming for. If you find yourself in a position where you are forcing yourself to reply to a thread due to your signature campaign then that's a pretty good indication that you're likely making unsubstantial posts.

Helpful suggestions:

• Firstly, just put some actual thought into your posts. Actually read the thread and the replies already posted. Often-times people will just read the title of the thread and post without fully understanding the topic or issue and make either irrelevant posts or say the same thing that has been said numerous times before.

• If somebody asks a specific question and it gets answered adequately within the first post or two nobody needs to read another ten replies saying the same thing just reworded slightly. If you cannot offer any additional info or clarify/correct something then you probably don't need to post it.

• If you struggle with English it's probably best to try stick to your Local boards. Your English does not need to be anywhere near perfect and you will not be penalised for this but if people generally can't understand what you're saying then it will likely be considered unsubstantial or spam.

• Short replies are not always bad and long ones are not always good. Sometimes all that is required is a simple one word yes or no response, but stretching out an answer just to appear constructive usually has the opposite effect.

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June 22, 2020, 08:19:43 AM
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Calm dude, it's a forum to learn more about cryptocurrencies, not to apply for a job or get a college degree.
Read all sticky topics, understand before you make any response, read the topic several times and have fun.
The only things you should try to avoid is fraud and intellectual theft.


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June 22, 2020, 09:38:34 AM
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I'm new to this site, and I want to start off by making good quality posts right from the get-go. I want to avoid becoming a "spam-poster", or anything of the sort and learn more about the forum. How would I know if my posts are considered spam or high enough quality? I plan to be insightful with my posts and only engage in conversations that seem productive.

Based on my experience, long posts (mostly 250 characters and above) that has good idea and that idea is explain thoroughly through your post is considered of a good quality. But then, the main idea of spam posting is simply constantly posting non-sense (e.g "Wow I think you're right" "I agree") and just repeating the OP or a quoted text. Also, posting numerous posts that has the same idea over other sections in the forum is considered as spam.

You might be confused between Burst Posting and Spam Posting. But don't be. Burst posting is posting with an interval of less than 25mins and contains short content and not that helpful.

If you wanted to make a good quality post, better make your research first and have your own words with it. Keep in mind to have a context that is straight to point and can open a broader set of questions. Treat your post like academic/research papers.

Calm dude, it's a forum to learn more about cryptocurrencies, not to apply for a job or get a college degree.
Read all sticky topics, understand before you make any response, read the topic several times and have fun.
The only things you should try to avoid is fraud and intellectual theft.

But then the OP is asking for what could he do to his post be considered as high quality post hence if we really wanted to help others, should we put our thoughts in a little context?

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June 22, 2020, 10:20:38 AM
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Based on my experience, long posts (mostly 250 characters and above) that has good idea and that idea is explain thoroughly through your post is considered of a good quality.
I do not think verbosity is a criteria for determining high quality posts, if the main contents of a reply can be covered in one or two sentences then there's no need to draw out the reply.

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I do not think verbosity is a criteria for determining high quality posts, if the main contents of a reply can be covered in one or two sentences then there's no need to draw out the reply.
The key is information density: the problem with many long posts is not with their length but with the content that the replies host. If it takes multiple sentences to say one general piece of content (i.e. spam megathreads) then the information density is very low, when it should be maintained at a steady level.

Most of my replies, when they get into multiple paragraphs, tend to expand and elaborate on points and thereby produces something that's worth reading rather than someone just repeating "the bitcoin" and buy high/sell low a few dozen times in a variety of forms.

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The key is information density: the problem with many long posts is not with their length but with the content that the replies host. If it takes multiple sentences to say one general piece of content (i.e. spam megathreads) then the information density is very low, when it should be maintained at a steady level.
I agree, I sometimes write essays and articles and part of the rules is usually to limit my piece to a certain range; not less than abc and not more than xyz number of words, based on the topic being discussed. So it would not be too short and limit the amount of useful content you can add or be too long and dilute the quality with repeated ideas.
The same can apply in the forum,  based on the topic of the thread, the reply should contain varying number of characters to answer the inquiry of the OP as best as possible.

The reason for my reply was, we mostly use the phrase one line spammers on the forum, this only describes the lazy spammers who post to raise their activity score, but a number of "smart" spammers have taken length as the minimum criteria and draw out their reply, repeating previous ideas shared by other members or their initial idea so as to increase the sentences and pass the threshold. The latter can become better forum members with more effort

This would also be subjective and may not apply to posts made to elaborate certain concepts especially when it's being discussed with newbies and needs to be simplified.

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All the less to no effort-ed things can be considered as spam.

More the level you put efforts into something then it will gain more the value; no exception for your posts as well.
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June 22, 2020, 09:07:52 PM
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I'm new to this site, and I want to start off by making good quality posts right from the get-go. I want to avoid becoming a "spam-poster", or anything of the sort and learn more about the forum. How would I know if my posts are considered spam or high enough quality? I plan to be insightful with my posts and only engage in conversations that seem productive.

Making a quality post is by thinking from the box of your knowledge what is needed in the forum that people most learn and gain knowledge from it. Post that as indicated as spam is when you just go round the forum and keep repeating one particular topic or post. And as well know making sense in what you post.

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