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June 22, 2020, 02:06:20 PM
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I didn't wait to end of the game they just say it's cant be void  on the site, they say only if I win all the parlay I will get paid, it's there fault and I cant cash out beacose of that, I can prove you I want to cash out before the game that I lost started (=
why you need to play again in able to get paid? In the first place you work for it to be rewarded ..its unfair indeed mate. And you should make a complaint if i were you... Winning again in such game isn't easy.. wherein its very unpredictable . You should not make an agreement to them.. In fact you have rights..

OP have the right to ask for voiding the game instead of waiting for his luck, if the sport house offers early cashout then it's gamblers right to ask for it, with how OP stated that he's wanting to cash out if the bookmakers made the mistakes placing his bet to losing side even the game is not done then refunding or cancelling the entire bet and bringing back the money should take place.

If the bookmakers admits that the mistake is from their side then OP should get consideration of refunding the his bet.

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June 24, 2020, 07:58:37 PM
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I would like to see more specifics. If a mistake was made, then in the interests of the platform in its correction and satisfaction of your needs. After all, this is an accident, which means, ceteris paribus, you could easily cash out funds. Any self-respecting casino will do so that it would be good for the client, regardless of the situation, except for those where the client was caught cheating.

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June 25, 2020, 05:33:33 AM
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Posting some conversation like screenshot would help, if you can put a specific name of the sportsbook maybe that would help us find an easy solution since we can review the TOS of the certain site. I suggest put everything that you think vital since I believe you are in the right position here since in your post, they admitted their mistake.

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June 25, 2020, 07:03:22 AM
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If the provider of the site has admitted to doing wrong, why do they have reason to not be able to replace it manually. Something's went wrong,
and one more why are you afraid if you are right. Just mention the name of the site and its owner, so we can give opinions correctly. Why do you
say the site is fair, if in fact you are harmed because of their mistakes. My advice immediately ask for a related solution this issue to the support site.

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June 25, 2020, 07:13:56 AM
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It would be helpfull if you can post some parts of your converstaion (maybe some screenshots)

In the end if the owner of the site made a mistake (do you have any proof - again screenshot would be great) you can just ask for your money back.

I would try to keep contacting the support, if you don't get any satisfying reply it might be worth to send a real letter to their company.

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June 25, 2020, 07:18:58 AM
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I still don’t see the name of the site posted which makes me think maybe it is not a well known site and maybe the owners of the site play tricks and cheat.The fact that they admited their error is a good sign but it is not enough to point to the right direction and the solving of the problem in total.Unless you post more details we cannot say who is right or who is wrong.

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June 25, 2020, 12:42:17 PM
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This sounds unfair to me. The site should compute the cash out amount before the last game started and refund it to you.

The hardest thing to do here is to prove that there was an intention to cash out before the last game started. How would you prove that? Or why would you even cash out before the last game started?

Well, you should argue that the option to cash out should be there for fairness' sake even if there was no intention to cash out. Disabling that option is already cheating unless they disabled it according to their term and conditions.
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June 25, 2020, 02:31:30 PM
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Mistakes were made by the provider and not you because for most bookies, 5> minutes before the first game starts, lines are locked and you can't change the selection any more. On that window you can still cancel your bet or do some changes in the legs however based on what I understand on what you're saying, this is not followed. If they are the ones who graded it wrongly, then they are the ones responsible for any outcome that it may give. A compensation would suffice IMO, but outright imposing the rules while the platform itself made the mistake is somewhat untrustworthy in my books.

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June 25, 2020, 04:38:56 PM
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I don't understand the exact problem you are experiencing there, is it about canceling bets or maybe about payments that you don't receive when bets are finished? while your parlay bet has a losing match, if that is the case then I only assume if you might not really understand the parlay betting system, basically parlay bets do have to win all the matches in one parlay if there is only one match you lose, then your parlay loses and you won't get any payment.

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June 25, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
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I would like to see more specifics. If a mistake was made, then in the interests of the platform in its correction and satisfaction of your needs. After all, this is an accident, which means, ceteris paribus, you could easily cash out funds. Any self-respecting casino will do so that it would be good for the client, regardless of the situation, except for those where the client was caught cheating.
I agree because I could not understand what he is actually trying to explain, maybe a bet slip with hidden website name would help and I would also like to see the conversation he had with the casino/sportsbook to further understand the case. I believe cash-outs are offered before event starts and maybe the event had started and he missed cashout while if the sportsbook made the mistake and offered something wrong then they should rather void the bets because that's the gambling standards where if odds are offered wrong or something they usually void bets.

I respect the fact that you want to keep the website name hidden but providing a few more details might help others understand better and suggest a way out to solve it and remember bitcointalk community has great power so if you felt cheated just open a scam report in the correct section.

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June 25, 2020, 07:22:49 PM
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A little bit hard to understand what you are saying, but from the gist of what you are trying to say, I think the operator is at fault.
They should have voided the bet and refund you completely since it has been a mistake made by them (according to you). But, i think you probably had some misunderstanding with them so they ended up setting the bet. Once a bet gets placed, there is no way you can take away the bet.
Are you sure you completely understood what they said? We can't judge them unless we hear their side of the story. And what was the problem before?

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June 25, 2020, 08:10:45 PM
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As explained by the majority of members, you can share the site so that we can understand the event and evaluate the site, so that we all know whether the site is reliable? If so, we can place a red mark on the site.
In the event that you accidentally placed the bet you cannot blame the site.
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June 26, 2020, 04:29:23 AM
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Hi Naamandror, I have seen you at stake a couple of times if you are that guy. I have seen you in sports chat often talking around so I believe if the problem was related to stake you can easily discuss with the support and sort it.

Now coming back to your problem, basically you are complaining that you are now allowed to cashout which actually is a problem often we gamblers face and actually once I had such a case where I made a bet on bet365 and they did not allowed to cashout as markets expired for a event and even though the game didn't start. I reached them and they told me that cashout is a limited feature and cannot be guaranteed at all times so I believe while its unfortunate what happened with you, but I would say the bookie has the rights to make the call.

Also, that judgment is based on what I could understand so far maybe if you could tell more clearly what exactly happened my view would change.
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June 26, 2020, 04:45:31 AM
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Hi Naamandror, I have seen you at stake a couple of times if you are that guy. I have seen you in sports chat often talking around so I believe if the problem was related to stake you can easily discuss with the support and sort it.

Now coming back to your problem, basically you are complaining that you are now allowed to cashout which actually is a problem often we gamblers face and actually once I had such a case where I made a bet on bet365 and they did not allowed to cashout as markets expired for a event and even though the game didn't start. I reached them and they told me that cashout is a limited feature and cannot be guaranteed at all times so I believe while its unfortunate what happened with you, but I would say the bookie has the rights to make the call.

Also, that judgment is based on what I could understand so far maybe if you could tell more clearly what exactly happened my view would change.

i think i have seen this guy already , the one that have a platinum level account  . his name is familiar now to me  as im also  lurking there on stake .  the site is reputed enough to scam people  and they already have alot of costumer support which is also active at all times  . he can message on the site to resolve his concern   .  other times i also see a user complain about primedice   , saying the site is scam just because he cant verify his bet  .  i dont think such site will do that  .
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June 26, 2020, 06:48:48 AM
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You should have asked the gambling ite to cancel the bet no matter either you won or lost that because you didn't actually made that bet right?

Then its simple, once they refund your previous balance you can withdraw them if you want to keep betting as if you wish for, there is nothing wrong with sharing the name of that site because it will help others who uses the platform to find the issue.
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June 26, 2020, 01:42:18 PM
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I think if they made a mistake in a parlay bet they should have voided the bet. Manually or automatically it doesn't matter
But you made a mistake waiting untill the games is over then you start saying" IF " probably if the last game won you wouldn't have asked for a void.


We can't really tell at this point because OP hasn't provided conclusive evidence proof to an abused by a gambling site and he haven't even mentioned the name of the betting site. We're in the dark here, we must verify things first to know which side had lapses so we can properly decide who is mistaken here.

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June 26, 2020, 02:07:00 PM
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I hope OP is serious.. I would like to know about the update of the situation, he was last active on June 22, 2020 so we are again left hanging here.
I don't want to call it as another newbie who complained then just left when the problem is solve.
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June 26, 2020, 02:18:41 PM
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You should have asked the gambling ite to cancel the bet no matter either you won or lost that because you didn't actually made that bet right?

Then its simple, once they refund your previous balance you can withdraw them if you want to keep betting as if you wish for, there is nothing wrong with sharing the name of that site because it will help others who uses the platform to find the issue.
He was the one who made the bet as he mentioned it's included in the parlay. I guess their support only had limited options like settling bets as a loss or win that's why they couldn't revert the mistake in time.

We can't really tell at this point because OP hasn't provided conclusive evidence proof to an abused by a gambling site and he haven't even mentioned the name of the betting site. We're in the dark here, we must verify things first to know which side had lapses so we can properly decide who is mistaken here.
OP is only asking for the opinion of the majority anyway it's most likely the sportsbook that's in the wrong but then again it's hard to argue because if the same case happens on other sportsbook you'd probably end up with the same outcome since the cashout feature is still limited to a few sportsbook.

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June 26, 2020, 06:48:58 PM
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I think if they made a mistake in a parlay bet they should have voided the bet. Manually or automatically it doesn't matter
But you made a mistake waiting untill the games is over then you start saying" IF " probably if the last game won you wouldn't have asked for a void.


We can't really tell at this point because OP hasn't provided conclusive evidence proof to an abused by a gambling site and he haven't even mentioned the name of the betting site. We're in the dark here, we must verify things first to know which side had lapses so we can properly decide who is mistaken here.


It does not matter much if the OP has not told the site where this event happened. Also he intentionally does not want the site name to be disclosed as it is a legal site in his point of view. Whatever was happened was a mistake and the owner of the site also admits so. So there is nothing right or wrong here because its not done intentionally.
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June 29, 2020, 08:25:59 AM
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It does not matter much if the OP has not told the site where this event happened. Also he intentionally does not want the site name to be disclosed as it is a legal site in his point of view. Whatever was happened was a mistake and the owner of the site also admits so. So there is nothing right or wrong here because its not done intentionally.

I do not see anything criminal in revealing the name of the site and also translating this case into a more transparent discussion.
Half of us have to wonder what really happened. It is difficult to analyze the situation and give advice at a time when we do not see the full picture of what is happening. It turns out a guessing game.

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