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July 02, 2020, 05:52:25 AM |
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Today I just wondering if this kind of game is just existed only in the Philippines or in the other country but most of the time is you make a research on it one of the popular gambling of the elders is the cockfight, sometimes the fight can do in any wide places that the fighter chicken can freely move. Most of the time there is derby on it that they can play legally and gather a lot of gamblers just to bet to their favorite fighter. Photo Credit to PinterestSome of the places too that are playing cockfight are India, China, Persia, and now is there's a game like this in your country?.
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I know of another country which bet on cock fight but they do it only on New Year Eve and a bit before or after Christmas.While I am working in Albania here it is very popular that people in New Year Eve organize seacock fight and not normal cock fights.Sometime they bet on them but most of the time they do it for fun.
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July 02, 2020, 06:35:59 AM |
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I believe we already discussed this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184923.0 and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131130.0You may read there that in Phillipina, it's called "sabong," and in Indonesia, it's called "sabung." I believe cockfighting is everywhere ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 02, 2020, 06:37:31 AM |
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I think it's illegal in most countries that's why it is not that popular in other countries. But in the Philippines, I think it remains legal because it's already popular for decades, and I think it also becomes a part of the tradition. In addition to that is that the government is also earning from it.
I think most Filipinos have at least one person they personally know that is into cockfighting. And the fact that gamblers would still arrange a cockfighting event in the middle of the pandemic even if it's not allowed, it just shows how popular it is in our country that gamblers would risk their lives for it.
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July 02, 2020, 07:14:22 AM |
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There was already existing thread like this before but if you are asking about inmy country?
Yeah there are Legal Cockfight those allowed by the authority.
And there are also some Guerilla Style of cockfight for those who don't want to pay for gambling taxes and just conniving with those corrupt authority that is back upping them to still operate even if its Illegal .
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July 02, 2020, 07:33:34 AM |
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Some of the places too that are playing cockfight are India, China, Persia, and now is there's a game like this in your country?.
I don't like organizing such a betting event on animals. It used examples of this kind of happening for cock fight in Turkey. However, the result of hard work by the government of Turkey banned altogether. From time to time, there are illegally organized fight tournaments, but they are always followed by the police. I don't know, have you watched one of these fights before? You can be completely in horror. I think it should be banned everywhere. In the vast majority of these fights, it results in the death of one of the animals. Moreover, I have to say that the roosters who lost the fight and did not die by themselves were killed by their owners. Warning: Don't watch this video with your child or if you don't like violance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXK6uog-f6gThe worst part is that people enjoy it ...
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July 02, 2020, 07:44:29 AM |
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There was already existing thread like this before but if you are asking about inmy country?
Yeah there are Legal Cockfight those allowed by the authority.
And there are also some Guerilla Style of cockfight for those who don't want to pay for gambling taxes and just conniving with those corrupt authority that is back upping them to still operate even if its Illegal .
no difference on gambling as it also have two side , one is legal and the other is illegal but cockfight is considered as a form of gambling and not not just a simply hobby of raising cocks . if we want to gamble its better that we will only gamble on those authorize gambling places so that we can help our government in the form of paying tax and not helping those illegal gambling that only wants more money for thier selves , they do have a protector but only for thier selves while the gambler can still be caught and jailed .
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July 02, 2020, 07:59:05 AM |
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Made a quick list about countries that allow it. Got it from Wikipedia though, so it may actually contain some bits of wrong info here and there. Colombia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Mexico, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Philippines Indonesia has it banned but they have religious aspects tied to Cockfighting, so those are allowed. Spain has it banned except for two regions, Canary Islands and Andalusia. France has it banned except for a certain region, Nord-pas de Calais. Of course, other countries where it's banned continue to host a few cockfighting sessions, regardless of consequences. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CockfightI don't like organizing such a betting event on animals. It used examples of this kind of happening for cock fight in Turkey. However, the result of hard work by the government of Turkey banned altogether. From time to time, there are illegally organized fight tournaments, but they are always followed by the police. I don't know, have you watched one of these fights before? You can be completely in horror. I think it should be banned everywhere. In the vast majority of these fights, it results in the death of one of the animals. Moreover, I have to say that the roosters who lost the fight and did not die by themselves were killed by their owners. Warning: Don't watch this video with your child or if you don't like violance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXK6uog-f6gThe worst part is that people enjoy it ... Well, some people enjoy weird things mate. It's like since the age of violence against each other is over, and literally almost no one would beat up each other in the streets, they went to look for possible substitutes, and cocks were one of the options they found. They're rather easy to raise after all.
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Some thread that discussed about cock fighting specially in the Philippines. (1) Online Cock Fighting (2) Does your country knows about cock fighting betting?And someone was even selling a 'rare' cockfighting blade/knife known as "tari" in local Filipino [wts] rare antique cockfighting memoribilia including limited edition knifeAnd this is one of the well loved 'sports' in the Philippines, even Manny Pacquiao used to own a lot of cock fighters back in the days. And I'm pretty sure that is not just in the Philippines but other part of Asia and the US. Even top US cock breeders are going in the Philippines to compete against the best of the best cocks/cock breeders.
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July 02, 2020, 08:42:34 AM |
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This shouldn't be allowed anywhere in the first place. The animals most likely consider it as real fight... which makes things look like you(humans) are encouraging them to fight and hate themselves, probably against their will. They usually avoid conflicts amongst themselves otherwise we will be seeing cocks fighting on their own every time/day.
We humans should actually be helping them live in peace and not fighting themselves
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how do people manage to place such bets? how do people find things like that to be good things? honestly i'm very happy that in my country it doesn't have that kind of thing and also my country's law prohibits that kind of thing. and it's very cruel to do that to animals... I saw some of those fights on the news a few years ago and they were shocking videos. for the video that I saw on TV, these kinds of things are very popular in Asia I believe cockfighting is everywhere ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) especially when someone steals someone's girlfriend or boyfriend most of the time always has a cockfight.
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July 02, 2020, 09:56:35 AM |
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For local or traditional gambling, cock fighting is popular among the people, and they usually bet in a hidden place with some people. They don't gamble in a crowd of people because, in some country, cock fighting is prohibited, and if someone or those people get caught, they will get jail. I think this cock fighting is an ancient gambling game which people play because cock fighting is not available on one or two countries, but many country have this.
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This shouldn't be allowed anywhere in the first place. The animals most likely consider it as real fight... which makes things look like you(humans) are encouraging them to fight and hate themselves, probably against their will. They usually avoid conflicts amongst themselves otherwise we will be seeing cocks fighting on their own every time/day.
We humans should actually be helping them live in peace and not fighting themselves
Using animals to fight each other and use it as a sports bet can be considered as animal cruelty. But a country like the Philippines legalized cockfight because both losers and winners both benefit. After all, if the losers lost their cock they could use it as a food, and the winners will automatically win a huge prize.
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July 02, 2020, 10:08:34 AM |
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For local or traditional gambling, cock fighting is popular among the people, and they usually bet in a hidden place with some people. They don't gamble in a crowd of people because, in some country, cock fighting is prohibited, and if someone or those people get caught, they will get jail. I think this cock fighting is an ancient gambling game which people play because cock fighting is not available on one or two countries, but many country have this.
Yes, not only in PH. If you will read the wiki, it will give you the history as well as variations in various countries, including the legality of cockfighting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CockfightAnd as others have mentioned, this topic has been discussed already in this section.
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July 02, 2020, 10:08:50 AM |
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This shouldn't be allowed anywhere in the first place. The animals most likely consider it as real fight... which makes things look like you(humans) are encouraging them to fight and hate themselves, probably against their will. They usually avoid conflicts amongst themselves otherwise we will be seeing cocks fighting on their own every time/day.
We humans should actually be helping them live in peace and not fighting themselves
Animal lovers will fight against this kind of act from those gamblers who uses their fighting cock to gamble, knowing that in most cases either both chicken will die or only one will survive. Using animals to fight each other and use it as a sports bet can be considered as animal cruelty. But a country like the Philippines legalized cockfight because both losers and winners both benefit. After all, if the losers lost their cock they could use it as a food, and the winners will automatically win a huge prize.
There are countries legalizing this since it's been a part of their societies, it's been embraced by the government to implement taxes instead of keep chasing those illegal derbys, they manage to get decent money from derby operators.
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We had similar topics here, and from these topics I learned about cock fighting. It's popular in some countries, it's a blood sport and some people really enjoy watching and betting on these fights. If you check wiki you will see that it's one of the oldest traditions in some cultures. I don't like it, but it's me, and I can't judge people who love this, they are born and raised in cultures where this is just a normal thing for Sunday afternoon. I don't know is there something like this in my country, if there is I never heard about it. Maybe some tiny communities do this, but it's out of my knowledge. Now in my age I don't think I would try watching or betting on cock fights, it's not for me.
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bisdak40
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July 02, 2020, 10:26:48 AM |
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This shouldn't be allowed anywhere in the first place. The animals most likely consider it as real fight... which makes things look like you(humans) are encouraging them to fight and hate themselves, probably against their will. They usually avoid conflicts amongst themselves otherwise we will be seeing cocks fighting on their own every time/day.
We humans should actually be helping them live in peace and not fighting themselves
We may have a different view on this but for me putting elephants in the circus and forced to performed in front of a crowd is more cruel than cockfighting because Elephants are not born to perform in circus unlike cocks that they are born to fight. It's their instinct that whenever they see another cock they would fight it anytime of the day.
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Yaunfitda
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July 02, 2020, 10:41:33 AM |
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This shouldn't be allowed anywhere in the first place. The animals most likely consider it as real fight... which makes things look like you(humans) are encouraging them to fight and hate themselves, probably against their will. They usually avoid conflicts amongst themselves otherwise we will be seeing cocks fighting on their own every time/day.
We humans should actually be helping them live in peace and not fighting themselves
We may have a different view on this but for me putting elephants in the circus and forced to performed in front of a crowd is more cruel than cockfighting because Elephants are not born to perform in circus unlike cocks that they are born to fight. It's their instinct that whenever they see another cock they would fight it anytime of the day. There will always be a contentions in every sport, specially that involves animals, like in this case, fighting cocks. And I agree that there will be people on the opposite side. Personally, I don't see any issue with it, and I myself have been betting on cock fighting and it was part of our culture. I have nothing against those who opposes it, but then again, we have varied opinions here.
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July 02, 2020, 10:47:33 AM |
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AFAIK, it's the Spaniards that influenced their occupants to have this kind of gamble to have and the latter became the tradition and embraced by most occupants that they have. Animal activists won't agree to cockfight because they consider it as animal cruelty. how do people manage to place such bets?
Bets are made on the cockpit and there's no such as online IIRC but if there is then they're already upgrading but most countries won't allow that. how do people find things like that to be good things?
Tradition and became a norm.
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July 02, 2020, 11:20:11 AM |
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well in all EU countries this is completely illegal as all fight between animals! My 2 cents: I think this is also something very dismal. they are "armed" with blade or knife (just look the picture)... why ask to animals to fight and to force them to have injury? It's funny see an animal die? not for me for sure! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I can't understand it's pretty far away from my standard. I will never bet in anything of this activity. Respect the lives (in each form we can see) it's a must.
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