Bounty managers can do better

[Wapinter]

It is not that all projects refuse payment to hunters. Sometimes their ICO/IEO fails and they abandon the project. that render  their token useless and all work of bounty hunters ( and managers too when they get paid in tokens) goes in vain. Their is no remedy to this

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[AthenaBanana]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

What I know about kingcasino is that they didn't reach their target funds, I think the scam is not the right word and bounty detective secured the tokens for the bounty and they will still send the tokens to hunters who participated in the bounty (but the tokens are worthless)

[Questat]

It is not that all projects refuse payment to hunters. Sometimes their ICO/IEO fails and they abandon the project. that render  their token useless and all work of bounty hunters ( and managers too when they get paid in tokens) goes in vain. Their is no remedy to this

It's a gamble that bounty hunters will also have to take as we never know what would be the outcome of the project we are supporting.
If we complain because we didn't get our expectation, maybe we also have to think of the investors as they are the ones who really invest money on a project.

[TheUltraElite]

I don't think KYC will be a big help because many people can steal someone else's identity if it means to earn money.

You should not give out KYC to an project owner who is developing something new. It can and will lead to identity theft. You are free to do KYC with businesses that you use everyday like a local bank or a local stock exchange broker but definitely not a fund-raised project that is far from being operational.

And one more thing, even if a project is a legit and real one as well as its team, as long as one of a team member have this "greediness" in him/her/them. He/she/they will run away with the money and leave his/her/their team behind, betrayed.

Everyone is greedy, no doubt about it but the point is that people hide their greed to make it look legitimate till they leave. A good example is the Advisors who join a project, they are just interested in the money they will get with the project's promotion and they have a fixed lock in period after which they will dump the coins and leave.

There are so many reasons why these bounty campaigns have no good effect on the participants and are always a gamble.

[SyndicateLabs]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

What I know about kingcasino is that they didn't reach their target funds, I think the scam is not the right word and bounty detective secured the tokens for the bounty and they will still send the tokens to hunters who participated in the bounty (but the tokens are worthless)

Last month I saw them announce the completion of the first round of IEO for more than $ 10 million. But it was all a lie, in fact they didn't sell any tokens and no investors were interested in this project. They are a bullshit project and implement IEO in two scam exchanges

[carlfebz2]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

Dont tell them on what to do and knowing that not all bounty managers are really that reputable from time to time and some of them are just accepting any projects for the sake of adding it up into their
portfolio thats why we have seen several new managers.

even though there are good managers out there but doesnt mean that they wont able to get scam projects.There are still failures yet we know that showing off video on teams face
arent really enough to prove out projects legitimacy.

[lienfaye]

Its a good idea to minimize the risk of ending up in a scam projects if the manager can verify the legitimacy of the team and the project they are proposing. But its not a guarantee and we cant rely 100% to this.

It is not that all projects refuse payment to hunters. Sometimes their ICO/IEO fails and they abandon the project. that render  their token useless and all work of bounty hunters ( and managers too when they get paid in tokens) goes in vain. Their is no remedy to this

You're right we cant say what will going to happen on the project because it depends on how it will perform to reach the required investment.

[shoreno]

 so all of this concern was related to the kingasino bounty that is been held on bounty detective ? isnt that issue already over  .

 move on guys , you shouldnt  waste your time on one scam bounty but there are still many fishes/bounties in the sea that you can hop on  , try again and hopefully the next project your in are going to be succesful  . the number of bounty managers are too few compare to the number of bounty hunters so i dont agree that managers are the one that can do a thing   .

[mandor]

sometimes we cannot put too much pressure on bounty managers because he is not part of the project team and indeed many bounty hunters now blame the bounty managers against the project he manages because it ends in fraud. if the project managed by the bounty managers ends in fraud then it is the team's fault. even though they are real but that's not necessarily yet determined success because scammers have a variety of ways to get money from investors.

[stomachgrowls]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

Good suggestion they offer their services through chats but if a particular bounty manager asks for this, the project developer will just hire another bounty managers who will not ask these conditions but if they will unite and make this as a condition that will be good for all the managers reputation and for bounty hunters as well.

For projects  that are  shady then they will just simply replace or  find for another managers that arent really that too having a very strict way on verifying on projects that they are tending to handle out.

This is why some managers will not really that mind on asking out these doubting questions towards the project but it all vary with those bounty managers since they do have their own will on how
they do deal up with things..

They can make out some condition but surely this wont really be that much effective yet project owners can anytime run the campaign for their own.

so all of this concern was related to the kingasino bounty that is been held on bounty detective ? isnt that issue already over  .

 move on guys , you shouldnt  waste your time on one scam bounty but there are still many fishes/bounties in the sea that you can hop on  , try again and hopefully the next project your in are going to be succesful  . the number of bounty managers are too few compare to the number of bounty hunters so i dont agree that managers are the one that can do a thing   .

Manager had nothing to do with projects success since he's just been hired out for marketing purposes but i can say that he do somewhat contribute because this is how marketing works
to give out exposure.

If it did succeed then lucky for both manager and its advertisers.

[ralle14]

Manager had nothing to do with projects success since he's just been hired out for marketing purposes but i can say that he do somewhat contribute because this is how marketing works
to give out exposure.

If it did succeed then lucky for both manager and its advertisers.

I agree with what you said about the managers having contribution. Whenever a good manager gets hired to manage a bounty or signature campaign sometimes that feeling of doubt in joining the campaign can be quickly removed but once things go bad it's collateral damage.

sometimes we cannot put too much pressure on bounty managers because he is not part of the project team and indeed many bounty hunters now blame the bounty managers against the project he manages because it ends in fraud.

It's true that we can't stop bounty managers from their decision but we can still do something about it like simply avoiding it even though it looks like a legit campaign. Or start a thread in the reputation section to discourage these behaviors.

[TheUltraElite]

Good suggestion they offer their services through chats but if a particular bounty manager asks for this, the project developer will just hire another bounty managers who will not ask these conditions but if they will unite and make this as a condition that will be good for all the managers reputation and for bounty hunters as well.

You should read what @btcltcdigger has said.

Since the third world countries have a cheap wage compared to other countries bounty managers face a similar problem because both are competing for the same job. While someone asks an amount in return for a spam free and well managed campaign another one asks for lower fee but similarly well managed campaign. This leads to a professional jousting and thus is bad for the overall system of bounty manager, project owners and bounty hunters.

As long as the hunters accept that participating in a bounty does not guarantee a payment and follow that mentality they should be fine, if they tend to become very sad on being denied payment, they should look for other earning methods.

[mersal]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

Reputed managers are already doing this kind of screening to eliminate scammers but not every bounty managers because they are making money from it so they will accept their offers without enough research.Anyway most of the scam bounties are run by the project team itself so hunters are responsible for that project.Every bounty hunters should learn about how to choose better project because they are going to invest lot of their time for promoting that project.

[Mondinic]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

it's true that the tighter the better the results we get and will also avoid scam campaigns, but instead if all campaigns do that isn't difficult because there seem to be many campaigns, and if verifying one by one a campaign will not be easy to do and also maybe just chatting with the manager will shorten their work maybe, this is just my opinion

[rozak]

You have a point, not bad at all if bounty managers can start knowing project team very well before accepting their offer but don't expect that all bounty managers can do this, it's not really to manage a bounty campaign trust me

well, if the gift manager does something like that, it can be sure that in the future the scamer campaign will disappear over time, but you must already know that there are currently so many new projects or bounty campaigns and therefore just chatting with each other will speed up and save time for other activities or work right,

[lepbagong]

You have a point, not bad at all if bounty managers can start knowing project team very well before accepting their offer but don't expect that all bounty managers can do this, it's not really to manage a bounty campaign trust me

well, if the gift manager does something like that, it can be sure that in the future the scamer campaign will disappear over time, but you must already know that there are currently so many new projects or bounty campaigns and therefore just chatting with each other will speed up and save time for other activities or work right,

It is very positive, of course, if done by the gift manager before taking action to accept a project.
the problem is that there are already many impromptu and unqualified bounty managers that have occurred and sometimes don't see what projects they will be holding anymore.

at the time of ico was still in its prime only a few bounty managers that we could know of and were usually followed by many bounty hunters. because it has met the standard and trusted and never held a scam project. because the name of a bounty manager is also used as a benchmark by investors to be able to invest funds in projects that are held.

over time, with many projects mushrooming and new projects growing in the hands of new managers whose quality has not been tested, resulting in many projects going scam.
so that it affects the quality team manager too, because investors have refrained themselves for all new projects.

[rozak]

It is very positive, of course, if done by the gift manager before taking action to accept a project.
the problem is that there are already many impromptu and unqualified bounty managers that have occurred and sometimes don't see what projects they will be holding anymore.

at the time of ico was still in its prime only a few bounty managers that we could know of and were usually followed by many bounty hunters. because it has met the standard and trusted and never held a scam project. because the name of a bounty manager is also used as a benchmark by investors to be able to invest funds in projects that are held.

over time, with many projects mushrooming and new projects growing in the hands of new managers whose quality has not been tested, resulting in many projects going scam.
so that it affects the quality team manager too, because investors have refrained themselves for all new projects.

Well, it can't be helped. It's difficult because they submitted it so suddenly, especially so many submissions. The prize manager will definitely find an easy way out for what they are doing, even though the conditions are not certain.

I am grateful that there is still a good gift manager because it offers projects that are always original even though it also benefits at least the projects that are shared can be trusted.

well surely the new manager will have difficulty responding to sudden and many project submissions, especially what can be done besides accepting without clear conditions to make it easier to work,

[TheUltraElite]

I am grateful that there is still a good gift manager because it offers projects that are always original even though it also benefits at least the projects that are shared can be trusted.

Not sure you are trying to say, are you using a machine translation service to make your posts in English? If so I would suggest you to stick to your local boards before improving your command on English.

Yes there are good managers but there is a lack of projects that are legitimate. In general you should consider every project to be a waste of time and if they pay, then you got lucky - with that mentality you will never feel bad when you find out that you have wasted your time.

Even better if you stop taking part in bounties altogether.

well surely the new manager will have difficulty responding to sudden and many project submissions, especially what can be done besides accepting without clear conditions to make it easier to work,

What do you mean by "new manager" and whats your point? Your statements make no sense.

[Wapinter]

Not sure you are trying to say, are you using a machine translation service to make your posts in English? If so I would suggest you to stick to your local boards before improving your command on English.

Yes there are good managers but there is a lack of projects that are legitimate. In general you should consider every project to be a waste of time and if they pay, then you got lucky - with that mentality you will never feel bad when you find out that you have wasted your time.

Even better if you stop taking part in bounties altogether.

yeah sometimes i use translate for some words that i don't know but sometimes translate is not enough because what i mean is not like what is translated right and to avoid mistakes that i will post therefore i use tranlate just for a few easy words understood so as not to get confused when reading my posts, and also I'm sorry if what I posted is not good,

You just quoted two messages in you post and nothing

[vlast01]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

I think both bounty hunters and bounty managers should once again unite. The unity and the fairness should be done by both party just like the wayback 2017 were in most of campaigns and bounty hunters are getting there benifits and profits through campaigns.

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real

You have a point, but the solution that youve think is not tuat easy, its too much time consumming.
The good solution that I think is that.
Bounty hunters should never abuse the opportunity for such campaign, obey the rules, do the given requirements and never break the canpaign rules.
For bounty projects, they should be honest and do they part pay their participants accordingly whatever the result of the campaign.

this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria[/b]
This process between the bounty managers and bounty hunters are been done many years. I may say there are no problem in this way . The main problem here is the bounty mangers if they are really honest and have no any intention on breaking down their promises at the end of the campagn/program.

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

Not just for bounty managers all must change their bad way into the good one. Never scam others for the sake of money.