Bounty managers can do better

[superving]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

If a project offers you to handle a bounty for them with good reward, do you think you will still have time to review it? But still there are few managers that still want to promote legit projects even the reward is only little.

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[Botnake]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

If a project offers you to handle a bounty for them with good reward, do you think you will still have time to review it? But still there are few managers that still want to promote legit projects even the reward is only little.

Reward is very important but it should not be put first, the first thing that a manager should consider is if the project is legitimate or not, because it's useless to be attracted to a big reward when in the end all our effort will only be wasted as the project goes "SCAM".

That's not new to the crypto space, so we have to be aware.

[stomachgrowls]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

If a project offers you to handle a bounty for them with good reward, do you think you will still have time to review it? But still there are few managers that still want to promote legit projects even the reward is only little.

Reward is very important but it should not be put first, the first thing that a manager should consider is if the project is legitimate or not, because it's useless to be attracted to a big reward when in the end all our effort will only be wasted as the project goes "SCAM".

That's not new to the crypto space, so we have to be aware.

We are aware but theres nothing we can do about it thats why it all lies to the manager itself if he would really choose up legit projects.Ive seen one which i do appreciate on doing such thing
which is a long time bounty manager on this forum named @bubbalex. Ive been following his telegram for a while now and as i had observed where he do meticulously choose up projects where
it is legit and does have that potential when it comes to relevance and actually utility.

Im aint a bounty participant but ive been still following it out yet recent project he had handled are successful or do end up on making some money for its participants and its pretty decent.
Its true that choosing the best project should be the main priority for those bounty manager, not just on accepting on fast pace just aiming for having lots of
campaign that had been handled but do still ending up on a scam.

[rat03gopoh]

If a project offers you to handle a bounty for them with good reward, do you think you will still have time to review it? But still there are few managers that still want to promote legit projects even the reward is only little.

I don't understand "good reward" you mean. What makes you say it's good for a newly created token that doesn't have a market yet? The bounty manager can't conclude that the rewards offered are good going forward.

If the meaning of good reward here is a manager's payments, a bad manager will sacrifice his reputation with a big reward only once. most of them are new managers.

[Anyobsss]

If a project offers you to handle a bounty for them with good reward, do you think you will still have time to review it? But still there are few managers that still want to promote legit projects even the reward is only little.

I don't understand "good reward" you mean. What makes you say it's good for a newly created token that doesn't have a market yet? The bounty manager can't conclude that the rewards offered are good going forward.

If the meaning of good reward here is a manager's payments, a bad manager will sacrifice his reputation with a big reward only once. most of them are new managers.

he's probably talking about payment.

They can escape the bad reputation tho. They can just put some disclaimer under the bounty that they are just hired to bounty manager and will not be liable if the project turns out to be scams. They can also say that they did some research but they could be wrong. You know, they can easily take the job and dodge the bad reputation status. Most of them do not care about the project. If they are being paid right they will not care to the bounty hunters.

[TheUltraElite]

Reward is very important but it should not be put first, the first thing that a manager should consider is if the project is legitimate or not, because it's useless to be attracted to a big reward when in the end all our effort will only be wasted as the project goes "SCAM".

It is not the job of manager only but also for the participants to judge the project. If a person is willing to advertise the project they should be careful not the promote a scam project as well. But very few of the bounty participants actually care about this, they will jump into it without doing background checks on the team, their website or whitepaper.

That's not new to the crypto space, so we have to be aware.

Definitely, but few will read this to understand the same.

[Furryball]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

Lol, you think KYC can solve scam problems that's presently affecting crypto investors? Think again, there are many projects with real team since 2018 that still exit scam on investors, they come out in the public and show their faces on videos through youtube, they still scam people and no forces hunt them down, find time and do research first mate

[Botnake]

Reward is very important but it should not be put first, the first thing that a manager should consider is if the project is legitimate or not, because it's useless to be attracted to a big reward when in the end all our effort will only be wasted as the project goes "SCAM".

It is not the job of manager only but also for the participants to judge the project. If a person is willing to advertise the project they should be careful not the promote a scam project as well. But very few of the bounty participants actually care about this, they will jump into it without doing background checks on the team, their website or whitepaper.

I understand, and yes I agree that it's also the job of the bounty hunters but can we ensure that bounty hunters are reading it.

In fact, bounty hunters are just observing which bounty to join, they don't advertise their service like the bounty managers are doing.

If we will have everyone to blame, it will exert countless effort to determine who should be blame, some bounty hunters are just bot, they don't read, what they care is that they just do their job, so it's nice if it will start from the bounty managers since mostly the relationship is only between the bounty manager and the team, as a bounty hunter we can't approach the project team as they will just say they have already appoint something to do the job.

[perla]

I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.

[safari88]

we really can't tell if that would be helpful since some of the projects doesn't care to show their identity or face and will blatantly doing their exit scam. although the risk will be lessen still there's a risk.

[shinratensei_]

I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.

So many managers have been trying to do their best to avoid the scam project but it can't give a guarantee if the participants and managers will be free from the scam project. Sometimes it's a good idea to did it but i thought that when the team said it's privacy and what you can do about that. Im thinking about even when the team has verified through KYC verification didn't mean the team was also legit.
A project must be built with strong fundamental to make sure if that will not become a scam project. Even a good project early can be a scam project too.

[Wapinter]

I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.

So many managers have been trying to do their best to avoid the scam project but it can't give a guarantee if the participants and managers will be free from the scam project. Sometimes it's a good idea to did it but i thought that when the team said it's privacy and what you can do about that. Im thinking about even when the team has verified through KYC verification didn't mean the team was also legit.
A project must be built with strong fundamental to make sure if that will not become a scam project. Even a good project early can be a scam project too.

Even some legit projects abandon their project when they fail to reach softcap. They also don't pay bounty hunters in that case. That is not scam

[Jocuserious]

I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.

So many managers have been trying to do their best to avoid the scam project but it can't give a guarantee if the participants and managers will be free from the scam project. Sometimes it's a good idea to did it but i thought that when the team said it's privacy and what you can do about that. Im thinking about even when the team has verified through KYC verification didn't mean the team was also legit.
A project must be built with strong fundamental to make sure if that will not become a scam project. Even a good project early can be a scam project too.

Even some legit projects abandon their project when they fail to reach softcap. They also don't pay bounty hunters in that case. That is not scam

What you want to say to them is when a project will refuse to give hunter tokens even after reaching the softcap. You may know that there were many good projects and they reached softcap very easily but made various excuses to distribute tokens to the hunters. The only cheater way team want given to them is the image that to get the token you have to participate in kyc. where many hunters go extinct in doing, so i think 40% up hunter is expelled from the token they get.

[TheUltraElite]

If we will have everyone to blame, it will exert countless effort to determine who should be blame, some bounty hunters are just bot, they don't read, what they care is that they just do their job, so it's nice if it will start from the bounty managers since mostly the relationship is only between the bounty manager and the team, as a bounty hunter we can't approach the project team as they will just say they have already appoint something to do the job.

It would mean shifting the blame again on the manager.

They already receive flak from hunters who are literally illiterate enough to not read every instruction and act like complete baboons. Even then the managers are kind enough to help them out.

This is in fact a very complicated situation if seen with a serious vision. We cannot rule out the fact that even most project owners are also frustrated on the finances received from the offering. Thus their ghosting to pay out participants and therefore the constant spamming of PMs to the manager from hunters.

I dont see any way out from this except redesigning or removing the entire "bounty" system.

[carlfebz2]

If we will have everyone to blame, it will exert countless effort to determine who should be blame, some bounty hunters are just bot, they don't read, what they care is that they just do their job, so it's nice if it will start from the bounty managers since mostly the relationship is only between the bounty manager and the team, as a bounty hunter we can't approach the project team as they will just say they have already appoint something to do the job.

It would mean shifting the blame again on the manager.

They already receive flak from hunters who are literally illiterate enough to not read every instruction and act like complete baboons. Even then the managers are kind enough to help them out.

This is in fact a very complicated situation if seen with a serious vision. We cannot rule out the fact that even most project owners are also frustrated on the finances received from the offering. Thus their ghosting to pay out participants and therefore the constant spamming of PMs to the manager from hunters.

I dont see any way out from this except redesigning or removing the entire "bounty" system.

Due to lack of patience and hurrying up on receiving up their rewards without even thinking that managers are trying out their best too on their participants to get paid not
only for him to get paid also but it do also add up into his reputation on handling out good projects which would be a helpful thing for his upcoming project handling in the future.

its no surprise that most hunters would really have this kind of reaction without even rethinking that it cant really change a thing if they wont tend to be that harsh
on where giving out all the blame just like theres no tomorrow.

Being a manager or community handling kind of job isnt simple and the most stressful thing is that you do receive lots of accusations/criticisms and more.

[bitterguy28]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

The problem is sometimes newbie managers are willing to risk just for them to have added in their portfolio and this is the competition tighten ,the older managers has no option either to stop managing or go with the flow,because even how denial they do new Bounty manager are willing to shoulder the risk and Scammer team knew about this.

So in all ways you must admit as Bounty hunter that the Bounty ways will remain like this as it started like this also.

[TheUltraElite]

The problem is sometimes newbie managers are willing to risk just for them to have added in their portfolio and this is the competition tighten ,the older managers has no option either to stop managing or go with the flow,because even how denial they do new Bounty manager are willing to shoulder the risk and Scammer team knew about this.

Correct, the teams know that their "scam" will be marketed by someone. That is also why there is a need of a managers' group which can reach a consensus about new projects and assign the project to someone in that group on a turn-by-turn basis - my opinion. Anyone who is not a certified member of this group could be marked as a manager whose projects are to be handled with caution by hunters.

However creating such a system will generate a lot of uproar from unscrupulous managers like it always has happened in the past.

So in all ways you must admit as Bounty hunter that the Bounty ways will remain like this as it started like this also.

Sadly it is a vicious never ending cycle. Stop hunting bounties is what I have to say.

[noormcs5]

I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.

How can a video conferencing with the project team will ensure that they will not scam ? The only way for protection is to get the KYC for the owner of the project so in case he tries to scam, the bounty manager can have a legal case on them.

[Christabel247]

this is for your own opinion as i know very well that every bounty managers tries their best to fetch out some scam projects.. at this point i would love you to visit the scam accusation section to see it yourself, trusted bounty managers are working tirelessly and endlessly to put an end to such project before introducing it to their community members reason because they so much believe and entrusted him much in other hand to always remain at the top he has to do drastic research for him to be certified is not scam projects. please click here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

[CryptoYar]

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If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real,

I don't think it's going to benefit in any way, as scammers make some plans before introducing any project and that's why they would have succeeded in committing such big scams. Even if the bounty managers have a video call condition, then surely scammers will plan for it. Because they are evil-minded people, so we should do some research on our own before joining any bounty

I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

scammers do not have any country or religion, but they are bad people irrespective of the country.