Bitsler is scame took my life nearly

[Akruti]

Hai gamblers stay away of the bitsler gambling site that is scame they wll never let you win.they have scamed me for total 0.27 btc. I was playing at 85% chances with the bet of 5k sat i double on lose the bet and its give me red its didnt give me any single green on losing 0.27 bitcoin started from 5k sat.now i contect to suport they says its probably  fair site.yhey make lots of excuses i try to verify the rolls but its didnt help.that was my life time saving.when they make lots of excuse i said  delet my account and dont save my email infos. They happily  delet my account.so guys be carefull with the bitsler they are scamers.they knkw what you rolling.they know your bets.my user name there was Getbet

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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Hai gamblers stay away of the bitsler gambling site that is scame they wll never let you win.they have scamed me for total 0.27 btc. I was playing at 85% chances with the bet of 5k sat i double on lose the bet and its give me red its didnt give me any single green on losing 0.27 bitcoin started from 5k sat.now i contect to suport they says its probably  fair site.yhey make lots of excuses i try to verify the rolls but its didnt help.that was my life time saving.when they make lots of excuse i said  delet my account and dont save my email infos. They happily  delet my account.so guys be carefull with the bitsler they are scamers.they knkw what you rolling.they know your bets.my user name there was Getbet

You really should not go all in with your life time savings. What did you think? You gonna make a lot of money by gambling? If it was that easy then all the gambling sites would run out of money and no one would have a gambling business.

Sorry for your lose but I do not think Bitsler has any fault in here. It's you who made the mistake by going all in with your life time saving money. I hope you learn your lesson from here. My suggestion is that never go all in and never chase your loses. Forget about this and move on. There are no need to gamble if you are not having fun.

[Mpamaegbu]

OP, there's a reason it's called gambling. It's becau it involves a high level of risk, and you should've known that before going all in. Besides, I think your accusation is spurious and wild if you can't back it up with any evidence. In reality you might get sued for trying to destroy someone else's business.

[crwth]

I don't think they work that way. Please post your account ID there or the screenshot of your history. It's impossible to have a no single win starting from 5k sats to 0.27 BTC. It's about 5400 bets before you lose everything, and chances of those 5400 bets having no success on an 85% win chance are impossible.

If you are using the martingale strategy, it's not going to work on an 85% win chance. You wouldn't get enough capital back when you lose that, you need consecutive wins to recover what you lost, which is possible, but it's possible to lose too.

This should be moved to another board.

[NeuroticFish]

I was playing at 85% chances with the bet of 5k sat i double on lose the bet and its give me red its didnt give me any single green

You should have been done some research before throwing your life savings into something.

1. You should have been reading that gambling is not a get rich scheme. Some win, some lose and most try to have fun. The main rule in gambling is to never (but never!) gamble more than you afford to lose. Next time you'll know...

2. You should have read that all variations of Martingale (like your strategy too) are not a safe method to win, however they can increase super fast the amounts you lose.

The fact a casino doesn't let you win doesn't mean it's scam. Although it's tiny amounts, I did win now and then there back in the days I've been gambling a bit more.
Imagine what would happen if everybody would win.

It's about 5400 bets before you lose everything, and chances of those 5400 bets having no success

You've done your calculation wrong. He didn't add 5k at losing, he doubled the bet value. And then it's only 12-13 bets. And 13 reds in a row can happen.

[The Cryptovator]

Although I believe Bitsler didn't scammed you but this thread isn't dit into Bitcoin Discussion board at all. Please move your thread on Scam Accusation board from lower left and post with scam report format. Its quite surprising to me why you have attempted to gamble with your life savings? Do you really know what is gambling? If so then you shouldn't take such as risk. Personally I don't think such as reputed gambling site will scam you just for 0.27BTC where they spent for signature promotion more than it per week. I think you are depressed after lost your funds. But if you believe there was something suspicious then post here with more strong proof. Verbally call someone scammers isn't appropriate to me.

[Anonylz]

I have to ask how old are you?
You are gambling and you went all in with your life savings knowing the high risk involved, anyways, you must be old enough to accept your misfortune and take responsibility for your action,
When you know 0.27 btc is your life savings, shouldn't you have split it in 2 incase things don't turn out to be as expected! I hope you learn at least.

[stompix]

If you are using the martingale strategy, it's not going to work on an 85% win chance. You wouldn't get enough capital back when you lose that, you need consecutive wins to recover what you lost, which is possible, but it's possible to lose too.

The Martingale strategy will always end up bad, the more you play the more the chances of consecutive losses that will either push the needed bet beyond the maximum allowed one will bankrupt you.

Just think if the next five would be also lost, from 0.25 it would have been 0.5,1,2,4,8  a total of almost 16BTC.
If he had tried to play with 5000 sat means he would need 320 000 winning bets just to cover the loss, at which point he will hit another 18 losing row.

Bitsler is scame took my life nearly )

Nobody took your "life", you have no idea what that really means.
You've thought you could use a strategy that is known for a century to fail to try to earn money.
If Martingale would be a bulletproof strategy to win don't you think everyone would use it and everybody would be rich?


Anyhow, the strategy of the OP is a bit confusing,
He used to double the bet as he said but betting on the 85%, that would not earn him anything even if he wins.
He bets 1 sat on 85% he loses
He bets 2 sat on 85% he wins he gets 2.32...means he lost 0,68

[Darker45]

Hai gamblers stay away of the bitsler gambling site that is scame they wll never let you win.they have scamed me for total 0.27 btc. I was playing at 85% chances with the bet of 5k sat i double on lose the bet and its give me red its didnt give me any single green on losing 0.27 bitcoin started from 5k sat.now i contect to suport they says its probably  fair site.yhey make lots of excuses i try to verify the rolls but its didnt help.that was my life time saving.when they make lots of excuse i said  delet my account and dont save my email infos. They happily  delet my account.so guys be carefull with the bitsler they are scamers.they knkw what you rolling.they know your bets.my user name there was Getbet

I'm sorry for your loss. I wonder how you ended up very unlucky.

But this does not automatically mean that the site is scamming you. Neither does it mean that the site is being dishonest when it claimed to be provably fair.

Try to go over your bet details and verify whether those rolls were indeed fair.

https://www.bitsler.com/en/provably-fair/verifier
https://dicesites.com/bitsler/verifier
 

And 13 reds in a row can happen.

His/her last roll must be the 13th. While it can happen that for 13 consecutive rolls you are getting everything red, I must admit this is highly improbable at 85% winning chance. I must say the player is extremely unlucky for having gone through such long consecutive losses with a very high chance of winning.  

[bL4nkcode]

But how is this possible on a fair site to have 17 reds plus 1 green plus 8  red so now u calculate its over 27 rols and 1 freen. No one wll call it fair and they probably  know what chances i m playing they even lag my bets before i click all in

And this is an 85% winning chance, right? well, I say its unlucky day for you. Nothing to complain about the bitsler since they have provably fair and you can verify it by yourself (link is posted above already).

You should know about this risk by coming to gambling activities. And not to defend bitsler, it's used by many here, paying and still running till now and spent a lot on signature campaigns.

[Darker45]

But how is this possible on a fair site to have 17 reds plus 1 green plus 8  red so now u calculate its over 27 rols and 1 freen. No one wll call it fair and they probably  know what chances i m playing they even lag my bets before i click all in

Try to consider that everything could be possible. Is it possible to lose at 99% winning chance? Yes! And 10 times in a row? Still yes! Is it possible to win at 1% winning chance? Yes! And 100 times in a row? Still yes!

But, again, let's try to be objective about it and do the verification yourself.

Here: https://www.bitsler.com/en/provably-fair/verifier

Please share the verification result here.

[Vaculin]

I am sorry for your loss mate, but Bitsler is one of the reputable gambling sites in the forum, if you don't have a proof, then I'm afraid that this is only a baseless scam accusation and it would be unfair for Bitsler to be accused of not being fair because you loss your bet.

[crwth]

It's about 5400 bets before you lose everything, and chances of those 5400 bets having no success

You've done your calculation wrong. He didn't add 5k at losing, he doubled the bet value. And then it's only 12-13 bets. And 13 reds in a row can happen.

Oh yeah, I know he did martingale, but I didn't factor in when I calculated for those numbers. I should've made it clear. Thanks for clearing it out. He would lose around 12 losing streaks. It's sad that he just wasted a lot of money without taking risk into account. Blaming others means denial upon his fault.

If you are using the martingale strategy, it's not going to work on an 85% win chance. You wouldn't get enough capital back when you lose that, you need consecutive wins to recover what you lost, which is possible, but it's possible to lose too.

The Martingale strategy will always end up bad, the more you play the more the chances of consecutive losses that will either push the needed bet beyond the maximum allowed one will bankrupt you.

That's why I'm confused about his impossible claim. 85% is hella large with a chance to win. Even so, it's still part of the risk. It's gambling.

You are actually from botsler that why u saying that even 100 wins is possible on 1% can u show me 20 greens on 20% at bitsler? Never coz they are scamer. I mean you coz i onow you are one of them.and they wll give 50 reds as i know on 80% winings chances

Please post your actual proof first and show us where the scam is based on.

[NeuroticFish]

And 13 reds in a row can happen.

His/her last roll must be the 13th. While it can happen that for 13 consecutive rolls you are getting everything red, I must admit this is highly improbable at 85% winning chance. I must say the player is extremely unlucky for having gone through such long consecutive losses with a very high chance of winning.  

True. I didn't say it's easy to be that badly unlucky. But the possibility is there (and it's much-much higher than for the 5400 bets "case").
@crwth did have a very good point though: user ID and screenshot(s) with the bets history may give more info so we can see if we have missed anything.

[stompix]

Well your beloved friends delet my account very urgently when i says refund me or delelt my account i dont want to use your site. They says are you sure you want to delet your account?. And ofc i did answer hell yeah i want.

So at this point, we see a user claiming he has played on a website, claiming he has lost x times in a row up to 0.27 BTC and claiming the games are rigged against him. And no proof from him...nothing, one screenshot let alone bet details.
At least the discussion with the support? Did you delete that too?

I've never played on Bitsler nor am I planning to but at this point, your so-called "scam accusation" holds no water.
Without proof, you have to understand that anyone can come with such a story, and there is no way for us to verify is true or not.

But the possibility is there (and it's much-much higher than for the 5400 bets "case").

Something like 1 in 1,3 billion rolls?

The problem I don't understand with his strategy is the moment he put down the 0.102 bet
At this point by doubling, he would have already lost 0.10 from the previous bets but since he was playing at 1.16 return he would have only got back 1.116 and still lost 0.084 BTC even if he would have won.

[actmyname]

Well your beloved friends delet my account very urgently when i says refund me or delelt my account i dont want to use your site. They says are you sure you want to delet your account?. And ofc i did answer hell yeah i want. Coz u know when u lose life time save in 26 or 27 rolls with 85 chances with 1 green. What wll you fell ?

Did you ever consider that there was a possibility for you to lose a bet?

OK. So if you could lose one bet, could it be possible for you to lose two bets?
OK. So if you could lose two bets, could it be possible for you to lose three bets?
...
and so on.

If you, for some reason, think that at any point you could not lose x bets in a row, then please provide a justifiable reason for doing so. If you are unable to make this rationalization, then you should eventually come to the reality that you were unlucky and lost that many times in a row.

Who gambles with their life savings? One of the core pieces of advice for people who are using any amount of money is to consider any amount they wager already lost. That way, you won't be suddenly shocked when one of the two outcomes (that being losing rather than winning) happens.

[ryzaadit]

Welcome, to the society of the martingale system.

You got 9 strikes to lose in a row if i counted from 5K sat and double up in the next bet, did you think is really impossible? not it's really possible. Are you curious how many time i got strike lose? the highest I strike lose I got when doing a martingale system even with a bait bet. My highest strike lose is 40-45 times in a row without a single win XD with 50% chance win.

The roll was based on SHA256, the provably fair mean not always guarantee you always be a winner but its to guarantee the result without manipulation and same as SHA256 result. You got the hash and everything, then check it its the result different or not you can say they cheated on you when the result was different otherwise this accusation just because you can't accept losing the money when doing a gamble.

[ralle14]

Well your beloved friends delet my account very urgently when i says refund me or delelt my account i dont want to use your site. They says are you sure you want to delet your account?. And ofc i did answer hell yeah i want. Coz u know when u lose life time save in 26 or 27 rolls with 85 chances with 1 green. What wll you fell ?

Out of frustration and anger you're the one that requested to delete the account, they're just following your request. I've probably lost more than 1 btc but i'll never close my account since there's no good reason to do so other than self exclusion.

The odds of hitting those long streaks are very low but it doesn't mean that it's impossible though. I used to play with 90% probability in Bitsler when they had a daily promotion and get frequent streaks as well but I don't double down in every loss it's just a bad strategy overall.

[actmyname]

You are not the man of your wrds at all bro. U got them on 2x and i got 25 or 26 reds on 85% mean like 1.15x.they was probably  watching my bets coz i just deposited there and gone. Amd at the last they says sorry we can close your account but we cant help you any.

85% chance is 85%. Do you mean to say that it's impossible to get 25 losses in a row at 85%, or are you just a belligerent and indignant degenerate gambler that tossed away their life savings and is now looking for any and all excuses to try and wring that amount back?

Seems to me like you're tossing shit into the turbine and trying to catch some flies with the backsplash.

[eaLiTy]

No one have fun on gambling its always for money. But they give too much reds in row.and the suport directly delet my accoubt to aviode of me.

If you think that a gambling site is there to give out free money then you will end up in a situation like you described, you need to be sensible in what you claim.

Well your beloved friends delet my account very urgently when i says refund me or delelt my account i dont want to use your site. They says are you sure you want to delet your account?. And ofc i did answer hell yeah i want. Coz u know when u lose life time save in 26 or 27 rolls with 85 chances with 1 green. What wll you fell ?

So where is the accusation, you asked them to delete your account and what is the problem now, you were foolish enough to bet with your life savings and gambling site is not about giving out free money and shit happens if you try to extend your luck for a longer period of time despite saying that sorry to hear about your loss.