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The title of this post is how I imagine lots of (new) people visiting this boards think. In this post I would like to list a number of ways these gold diggers think how they might get rich quick. If you are on the hunt yourself please read on to get a feeling what you are up against.

[I found my wallet.dat file again!]
Mostly found in the Bitcoin Technical Support section. Like these:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256437.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254636.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246039.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249142.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248295.0

In general they are posted by new accounts claiming to have found an old computer/usb/backup or whatever containing a wallet.dat which is password protected but they forgot the password. All that's left between them and all the juicy BTC is a password that needs to be brute forced.

In reality chances are extremely big they got tricked/scammed in buying a tampered wallet.dat file which will never be unlocked.

Please realize the difference between: my password should either start by "mary" or "Mary" because that was my girlfriend back then and followed by 4 or 5 digits versus I have no idea what the password is and what the length it could be.

Advice: If you did buy a wallet.dat and ask for help in this forum include that fact, don't make up stories that won't hold if you get questions asked. Also: be prepared you got scammed.

[Let's generate a private key already in use]
Mostly found in Bitcoin Discussion section or Development & Technical Discussion. Like these:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254171.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253012.0

There are a lot of addresses out there with fat balances and the only thing standing between you and all those bitcoins is one simple Private Key.
So, lot's of questions get asked if it is possible to generate a private key already in use. And you know what, in theory it's possible. And that's where the gold diggers stop their reading and start firing up their questions.
It all boils down to this: could you win every single lottery world wide for 50000000000 times in succession? In theory you could, but you know that's not going to happen.

I've even seen suggestions where forum members used Vanity Address generators to look for a full bitcoin address, hoping they got lucky  Huh

Advice: Try to get a feeling how many different private keys / addresses are possible and then ask yourself if you still want to go hunting for a duplicate.

[Public key is known, so Private Key is up for grabs]
Popular in Development & Technical Discussion currently mostly because of this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244940.0

Don't get me wrong: there is nothing wrong with the linked EDCLP solver thread. It's just the way gold diggers translate this very
specific use case to: "Ah, so when a Public Key is known the Private Key can be calculated with enough computing power".

Just to be clear: Under very specific and intentional created circumstances a private key can be calculated based on the public key. The algorithm to do so will only work when it is known what the search space for the private key is. In other words: you know up front there are a limited possibilities what the private key can be. And that circumstance will only be met when it was done intentionally, for instance for a brute forcing puzzle.

Advice: Don't waste your time running your GPU or multiple GPUs to find a private key when there is not guarantee it is limited in possible values. No matter if you know the public key or not.

[Some software messed up, so the Bitcoin protocol must be broken]
A bit more exotic, Development & Technical Discussion is a good candidate section. A recent example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258113.0

Just because some software/wallet/script contains a bug doesn't mean the bitcoin protocol itself is bugged. So for instance if a wallet messes up by creating an anyone-can-spend transaction that doesn't mean you all transactions in the blockchain are magically up for grabs.

Advice: Try to comprehend a bug entirely before jumping to the conclusion you can use it to get rich.

[Puzzle transaction will make me rich]
Popular in Development & Technical Discussion currently mostly because of this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244940.0

Who doesn't like a good puzzle? I sure do! And the linked thread still has a lot of BTC available for those who can solve some of the harder puzles.
The only problems is: all simple/medium puzzles have been solved already. So the really hard ones are left. You probably will need a lot of computing/GPU power and cheap energy or the cost will be higher than the reward.

Just to give you an impression: the last puzzle from the linked topic was solved using 256 Nvidia V100 GPUs, the hardware alone costs around $250,000. The reward for solving/brute forcing was 1 BTC.

Advice: puzzles are fun! So with lots of people playing meaning it will be extremely hard to win/solve anything left.

[Brainwallets: come up with new ones]
Topics are usually either in Development & Technical Discussion or Bitcoin Discussion section.

Brainwallets-hacking got big when Brainflayer was released. I made an entire site myself two years back with all brainwallets I found myself. Check out this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4768828.0

A lot of brainwallets have been found and emptied in the past years. Billions of brainwallet-candidates are in the lookup tables of bots ready to scoop up any transaction made to a brainwallet address.

Advice: Brain wallets are fun to study. But don't expect to find an undiscovered one especially with any balance left.

[Conclusion]
There is no get-rich-quick way using bitcoin in a way that hasn't been thought of before. And even if you come up with a way do you really want to STEAL bitcoins that aren't yours? How would you feel if you wake up one morning to see your own bitcoins to be stolen? I'm not here to tell you what you should do or should not do, the choice is ultimately yours alone!

That being said, some fun puzzles, brainwallets, challenges are an excellent way to dive deeper into the inner workings of bitcoin. So you will learn a lot when you do so, just don't expect to get out filthy rich Smiley


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July 04, 2020, 10:55:56 AM
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Who can blame people for wanting to get rich, especially if it's Bitcoin where you just need a private key from the right address and you can become a millionaire in the blink of an eye. I had the opportunity to meet some people who are interested in crypto just for the reason that they try to hack it, and I guess there are a lot of them who are waiting for their chance.

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[I found my wallet.dat file again!]
The only addition I would make is this. Yes, people charging you for wallet.dat files are scammers pretty much without exception. However, you should also be very suspicious of people trying to send you wallet.dat files for free, just as you should be very suspicious of any stranger online trying to get you to download or receive a file. More likely than not the file they are sending you contains malware.

Who can blame people for wanting to get rich, especially if it's Bitcoin where you just need a private key from the right address and you can become a millionaire in the blink of an eye.
I've never understood why otherwise honest people think that an address collision would mean that the funds contained within are now somehow "up for grabs". It's theft, pure and simple. Do you rob houses? Do you mug people? Do you pick pocket? No? Then why are you trying to steal someone's bitcoin?
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I've never understood why otherwise honest people think that an address collision would mean that the funds contained within are now somehow "up for grabs". It's theft, pure and simple. Do you rob houses? Do you mug people? Do you pick pocket? No? Then why are you trying to steal someone's bitcoin?

A thought experiment. If some sketchy dude, let's call him Craig, can convince a judge that a certain Bitcoin address belongs to him even if he doesn't own the private key, should the owner of the private key - let's call him Pete - give it up? Let's say Craig claims that he lost the private key and Pete found a collision (I didn't say the judge knows shit about crypto). Who's owns the bitcoins? The law says it's Craig. The code says it's Pete.
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I mean, provided Pete did originally own the coins and the private key and didn't steal the private key from Craig, then I would say it doesn't matter what the judge says - the coins belong to Pete. If the judge demands Pete hands over the private key, there is nothing to stop him saying he lost it, just as Craig said earlier. Or maybe he could claim it is locked up in some kind of obviously nonsense legal proceedings and he can't access it. He could even give it a stupid name, like a Bluebell Bond or a Carnation Contract.
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July 04, 2020, 07:02:53 PM
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Even though I did want to become rich but still I did not do these kind of schemes just to make myself rich instead I only tried to do different things that I might be able to help and it's only the person I help decide to give tip or not and yes I still have limits of the things that I can't do. We really can't blame those people who want a quick way to get rich.

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People offering others an opportunity to earn through hacking has always been suspicious, hack tools distributed through shady sites often come with malware that pwns the script kiddies themselves.


Advice: puzzles are fun! So with lots of people playing meaning it will be extremely hard to win/solve anything left.


You can win the race to solve a puzzle if you show up early and is smart enough. Recently there was a puzzle about finding a private key encoded as an image on this forum, and a the beginning of this year there was a very interesting puzzle about ECDSA properties, which I won btw  Cheesy

It can be worth trying to solve such puzzles because they are quite educational, so even if you won't solve them, you'll still benefit.

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July 05, 2020, 10:08:36 AM
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People offering others an opportunity to earn through hacking has always been suspicious, hack tools distributed through shady sites often come with malware that pwns the script kiddies themselves.


Just like those ransomware thingies; it's up to the victim to trust the attacker because no other viable options are available. Unless the person is lucky enough to actually be friends with one (or IRL).

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July 05, 2020, 10:40:15 AM
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I've never understood why otherwise honest people think that an address collision would mean that the funds contained within are now somehow "up for grabs". It's theft, pure and simple. Do you rob houses? Do you mug people? Do you pick pocket? No? Then why are you trying to steal someone's bitcoin?

It's not just about address collision, but also about hacking the crypto exchanges, various scams that have found their place on social platforms, to convince someone that they have to pay taxes with Bitcoin using crypto ATM. And why do people do that? Well, because they think they can commit a crime and stay far beyond the reach of the law, which is not the case if you go to a bank robbery or break into someone's house.

Belief in the anonymity of Bitcoin transactions goes both ways, for those who use them for completely legal purposes, but also for those who live in the belief that such stolen property cannot be tracked.

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But there are other viable options. There are plenty books which created or sold by more reputable individual/company.

Of course there are bad/malicious books, but it's generally it's safer choice than trust stranger on internet.

You mean those "how to hack" books?

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One of the most efficient ways to hack bitcoin blockchain is arguably donating your own bitcoin to one of so-called "bitcoin doublers". If you were bitcoin billionaire, bitcoin doubler will make you bitcoin millionaire in the blink of an eye, thats for sure. It's a magical tool. It's definitely a magical tool. Not only does it make you millionaire, but it has an enormous power of creating infinite number of bitcoins out of thin air. No more stupid consensus rules - you can donate the WHOLE supply and recieve x3 in return.


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July 06, 2020, 04:22:07 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219581.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240826.0 (though this one isn't about bitcoin rather on ethereum)
A puzzle is exciting but considering how hard it is like these I'd rather have a good sleep and have some eye boogers.

One of the most efficient ways to hack bitcoin blockchain is arguably donating your own bitcoin to one of so-called "bitcoin doublers". If you were bitcoin billionaire, bitcoin doubler will make you bitcoin millionaire in the blink of an eye, thats for sure. It's a magical tool. It's definitely a magical tool. Not only does it make you millionaire, but it has an enormous power of creating infinite number of bitcoins out of thin air. No more stupid consensus rules - you can donate the WHOLE supply and recieve x3 in return.


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