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July 09, 2020, 06:49:35 AM
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betearn is pretty knew and i think there pretty good and growing at a nice rate. There provable fair system is a little suspect but seems fine in genral
Can you please clarify what casino are you talking about specifically because after googling the name you gave I was able to find that some bet earn was actually a scam and they were busted as you can read here  - http://tradinghorizon.com/tag/betearn-scam/

If you miss-typed the casino name I would request you to please give us the correct name since I cannot even find a thread at bitcointalk with any similar names. In my opinion there are very few casinos that are created in recent past and have been successful. Last casino I remember I used to play which was new was dicebitco.in and they ran away with their dirty scam and since then I stopped betting on new ones.
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July 09, 2020, 11:48:26 AM
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Of course everything requires a process. Competition between casinos will also help them to grow better. Many new sites have to back down from competition because they lost to previous competitors and everything they did was in vain. Promotion is one of the efforts to get a lot of visitors to the site, and this promotion will be useful if the site can provide comfort, security, and attractiveness to the players.

It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.

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July 09, 2020, 12:25:13 PM
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It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.

For me it would be easier to be successful if a gambling site like online casino will do giveaways and bonuses. This is what had been always done from the promising online casino to attract potential gamblers and to reach target number of gamers everyday.

Spending also for advertisement would be ideal to keep the integrity of the new casino. And then over a period of time may it be in the long run or short period of time to reach the ROI will definitely will going to happen.

Patience is just needed in every investment. Good maanagement will also make the new casino to be recognized as a strong establish online casino.
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July 09, 2020, 01:07:39 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.

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July 09, 2020, 01:28:27 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other,
Well Roobet seems to be start Business back in 2018 so Basically you are correct that they are one of the newest but they are the most  popular now,running multiple event to Lure players is what they are doing now.
we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.
Absolutely,Roober runs their Business very generously ,I remember that Once Yahoo made so complaints about this casino but eventually they come to an agreement .

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.
If you don't work carefully for your reputation then your company will end like a shit in this Community and even outside because gamblers are very particular on this.

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July 09, 2020, 02:53:57 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.
Definitely you are right. New casino should take advantage foe now due to pandemic and by this getting reputation from the users will be an advantage. It would be good also to get ratings from them and to get also their comments and suggestion to get the idea on how to serve them better.

Aside from that, ads also is very effective in promoting new casino. I had seen few online casino had been into promotion and giving good bonuses are now stable and  establish with more users in their platform.
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July 09, 2020, 07:27:00 PM
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I think it is difficult if they do not do promotions because the old sites that have a good reputation still exist today, and thus of course for them or a relatively new gambling site will definitely be difficult to compete, but it all depends on how big and high their consistency to build and grow their reputation, because even if they do promotions but they are not consistent then in the end their project will die too and at least many things like that have happened.

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.

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July 09, 2020, 09:08:02 PM
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I think it is difficult if they do not do promotions because the old sites that have a good reputation still exist today, and thus of course for them or a relatively new gambling site will definitely be difficult to compete, but it all depends on how big and high their consistency to build and grow their reputation, because even if they do promotions but they are not consistent then in the end their project will die too and at least many things like that have happened.

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

specially to those who are just starting up on exact not so big capital.

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July 09, 2020, 09:46:31 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
Answer lies in your question. Stake is a new casino, you can't deny this fact but at the same time you mention that it's not new because there is primedice team behind it, so, primedice is the key here. Well established, experienced team launched new casino stake that achieved great success because of good management and proper strategies that includes marketing and everything.
New casinos fail because most of them don't have necessary budget to handle developers, marketing and winning costs, some of them want to run casino just by buying some scripts online, ie trolls. Serious people will never fail in this business. See the success of casinos like Bitsler, FJ, cryptogames, yolodice and similar ones, their success is not a secret and there isn't any secret formula except good capital and hard work for more creativity and progress.
Also newer and probably another successful crypto gambling website can become wolfbet. So, not everything fails.

It's never too late to run any business and achieve success. Not only business but humanity is using gold and paper money for centuries but Bitcoin achieved huge success in a very short time frame and you may know how it all started, without massive ads and etc run by satoshi.

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July 10, 2020, 10:17:19 AM
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The only online Casinos that I get to hear about are quite literally the ones that have or have had signature campaigns.  As to whether or not they are any good, the fact that they can continue to pay for Campaigns should in itself be an indicator of the Casino's success - unless of course they had a pre-launch budget they are committed to with a Campaign Manager/Escrow who is holding the funds for them, no matter what.

(I'm surprised you didn't give your own Signature a plug while you were at it)

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July 10, 2020, 11:31:43 AM
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The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

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July 10, 2020, 01:44:12 PM
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The only online Casinos that I get to hear about are quite literally the ones that have or have had signature campaigns.  As to whether or not they are any good, the fact that they can continue to pay for Campaigns should in itself be an indicator of the Casino's success - unless of course they had a pre-launch budget they are committed to with a Campaign Manager/Escrow who is holding the funds for them, no matter what.

(I'm surprised you didn't give your own Signature a plug while you were at it)
I’m also depending on a signature campaign when it comes to new casinos because they always do it and most of them succeed on their first phase and some of them continue to grow up to this day. New casinos can compete with the old one, gamblers what to try something new and honestly, I love how the new gambling site compete with the others and they are really offering a great rewards and bounties when you play with them so I think that’s also a good marketing strategy.

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July 10, 2020, 02:33:47 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.
It really becomes an essential part of new running businesses to maximize the use of marketing strategy and promotions because that's what they need to attract customers. Promotional bonuses can also be their investment if they really want to gain attention or get recognized by gamblers.

New casinos may find it hard to build a reputation and gain enough attention, but if they would really work hard and try their best, they can have an opportunity to do well in the market just like with other old and trusted casinos.



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July 10, 2020, 04:36:51 PM
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The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

All right. Most startups do not know exactly which paths will be most effective and will give the greatest result. You can find out only by doing something, checking one of the ways.
Therefore, it is always a double-edged sword, on the one hand decisions that are moderately risky, and on the other, a limited budget. Nevertheless, you have to make a choice, and often too careful steps lead to the death of the project.

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Bonus, it is a program that gambling site owners must consider to attract the attention of gamblers. Deposit bonuses, welcome bonuses and also a number of other bonuses such as loyalty are what gamblers expect. I think some gambling sites that do promotion also do the same thing related to giving bonuses to players. Examples are FJ, Roobet, Wolf.bet and others.

The success of a site will depend on the activity and the players trust in the site. If the player feel comfortable, safe and doesnt feel disadvantaged for various reasons such as fairness then I think the number of site visit will increase gradually. Many gamblers want gambling sites not to implement KYC because they want to continue playing anonymously. This will also be the reason why the number of players and site revenue is difficult to increase (new sites).

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July 10, 2020, 06:34:53 PM
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Of course everything requires a process. Competition between casinos will also help them to grow better. Many new sites have to back down from competition because they lost to previous competitors and everything they did was in vain. Promotion is one of the efforts to get a lot of visitors to the site, and this promotion will be useful if the site can provide comfort, security, and attractiveness to the players.
Competition between casinos now are relatively high since there is a huge growth on the number of players in online gambling platforms. And it is true that some casinos are closing due to scarcity of players that maintains the leg of the platform. In my POV, new casinos will not be as entertained as the old ones, most probably players will just ignore due to the fact that they already found their place that even the bonuses won't attract them anymore.

It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.
Didn't we already achieve everything ? guess you just need to find it on different websites.
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July 10, 2020, 07:23:02 PM
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The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

All right. Most startups do not know exactly which paths will be most effective and will give the greatest result. You can find out only by doing something, checking one of the ways

Well, it is not actually just about startups and small businesses

Any business, be it huge or small, global or local, exists in essentially the same conditions. The difference is that international corporations can plan further ahead, i.e. their planning horizon can be much longer due to their sheer size and the amount of factors they have under their control or bear upon. But they are still not omnipotent or invincible. History is littered with the remnants of many now-defunct business giants (e.g. Pan Am Airways)

Nevertheless, you have to make a choice, and often too careful steps lead to the death of the project

That's the point. Doing nothing is generally a losing strategy overall versus doing something. Even if you do something wrong and it doesn't kill you in the process, in most cases, given the power of introspection and reflection, you will see where you failed and can then change your ways to avoid the failure next time

This is called experience

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July 10, 2020, 07:51:38 PM
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Most people here in the crypto world are tired of new casinos launching and disappearing afterwards. There's just so many of them that people doesn't seem to care anymore as long as they are getting the value for their money. 2018 was an exceptionally hard time for casinos to make money since that is the time when most regulations about crypto were imposed, and that is also the time when the market has gone haywire due to the crash from the ATH. There are tons of people interested in new bookies since we have limited of those, but casinos? We have plenty, and people would stick into their platforms where their loyalty is already amounting to 'something' due to the loyalty programs imposed by long-standing and reputable ones.

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July 10, 2020, 07:58:56 PM
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There are successfully launched proven fair casinos but there are scams, unfair casinos too in both recent years and this year. The success is all about having nice promos for luring new players and this year the Roobet team made huge promotions for Bitcointalk users. The Casineos is also newly launched, but they are on the right track because of the mechanisms to verify bet results or fairness.

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July 10, 2020, 09:44:20 PM
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The world of online gambling is indeed quite difficult for new casinos to survive, because many of its old casinos do promotions well,
making new casinos difficult to get users. From 2017 until now there have been so many new casinos that are closed or scams,maybe
many people who dare to take risks to keep trying to open new casinos with a large percentage of failures. Because see the prospect
of an online gambling business world is getting better, especially now that the pandemic situation that has not ended has made the
popularity of online gambling more increasing. Unfortunately only a few new casinos that have succeeded and have survived until now,
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