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July 04, 2020, 04:41:35 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

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July 04, 2020, 04:48:01 PM
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I've been playing on roobet which is a new casino I think for quite a while and I already like it. Roobet has lots of games and except for the plinko, it offers all games which stake offers. The UI, instant deposit, instant withdrawal, is pretty good. And they are running so many promos with huge prizes. I'm sure Roobet can make it (or might already have made) to the top lists of casinos Smiley
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July 04, 2020, 04:57:43 PM
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I've been playing on roobet which is a new casino I think for quite a while and I already like it. Roobet has lots of games and except for the plinko, it offers all games which stake offers. The UI, instant deposit, instant withdrawal, is pretty good. And they are running so many promos with huge prizes. I'm sure Roobet can make it (or might already have made) to the top lists of casinos Smiley
Roobet not new at all.

Before Crypto Casino, Roobet is a CSGO Gambling Casino. And when they former into cryptocurrency, they still got the customer/user from CSGO, with add the cryptocurrency option as the deposit they got more user from a different aspect. Another problem not only on their change management company, but also CSGO Item need 7 days to be trade again when you doing the trade for the item.


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Is part of the business, a casino could survive, popular and other things you don't really know that's part of the mystery of business. The owner, just want to take a shoot about his idea about some business gambling. The competition will always be there and some business could be failing or survive as long they shutdown the service without any problem with scam and other things and the reason just because of lack of player. Not really a problem at all, every business/owner have a chance to see did he service with his own idea can bee successful or not.

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July 04, 2020, 06:09:41 PM
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Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples?

The competition is getting harder time to time, this is the reason why new casinos needs to work so hard in order to compete in the gambling industry.
It takes not a short period of time for new casinos to be popular, most all the recent popular casinos came from Zero.
So it is reasonable if we cant find new casinos that got popular in just few months unless the site backed up or created by older popular site (Stake as example)

And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Any new casinos has the chance obviously but the only thing that can make a new casino survive is a hard work from the owner to promote and to give the best offers for players.
In conclusion, I think it needs more than a year for a new site to be a popular site that can compete with other sites that has great reputation in the market.

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July 04, 2020, 06:14:47 PM
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In 2017 and 2018 some new casinos got really good success rate even when they are new but the reason for their success is best kind of user experience which motivates more casinos in 2020 but when we already have reputed casinos the new casinos literally have less chance of visitors but if they are willing to spend huge money for promoting their site then for sure they will be successful if they are also offering best in class user experience.
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July 04, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
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I would agree about the new casinos, they have no traction at all. They don't do much after they have been launched. I think the "new" of most casinos that I can saw were likely around 2017-2018 so they're not actually new anymore.

The reason for the new casinos to come is the possible competition and better service that they can get and of course, the monetary benefit being the owner or developers.



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July 04, 2020, 06:46:04 PM
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Hard to build trust for new casinos unless they have good amount of budget for marketing not just in bitcointalk.

Some new casinos are finding ways like creating the casino with a community using blockchain platforms like Ethereum where they release tokens for investors. WINk in TRON getting popular and DICE of EOS also ranked up.

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July 04, 2020, 07:19:39 PM
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Hard to build trust for new casinos unless they have good amount of budget for marketing not just in bitcointalk.
I agree, the trust is the foundation of the website especially when it is a gambling platform on top of this thing is the competition, ever wonder why new casinos only get a few players? because players already found their home at some casino websites. Another ting with marketing, I think casino team should prioritize advertising on the right platforms like crypto forums,, crypto pages not just facebook or twitter in general.

I also notice how new casinos are immediately closing after a month or so, I'm able to play on them and I notice the fairness issues Sad



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July 04, 2020, 07:33:17 PM
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Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
There's still some new casinos on the rise, if bitcoin casinos from 2019 counts you have Windice, MintDice, Rocketpot, Wolfbet, Blackjack.fun (and maybe a few more i've missed).

I agree with panjul, new casinos always have a chance it might not be easy for them but it's not too late for anyone to start a casino this year or in the near future as they could take advantage of the problems from certain casinos to gain new players for example.

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July 04, 2020, 08:06:34 PM
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Well, perhaps the new casino has always great promotions and bonuses that gamblers will be lured to them. Aside from that, casino will survive if they are also honest service to their players because once a gambling casino has a plan of scamming people from the start or even selectively scamming their players, it will always scam. Well, I will not call them a successful casino because usually to them will become popular for a year and after that, they have begun to silence.

This things also bother in my mind why most gambling casinos when they turn old they rarely had a promotion, unlikely the new on, it is almost every day they had.









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July 04, 2020, 08:47:47 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
There were several casinos that do able to get some marketshare even if they are just new like Roobet. They are recently getting some attention lately and some

dice sites that been running for years now and still have some players who do play in the site.When it comes to launching on a new gambling site then as an owner then you are

taking up the risk neither you would succeed or fail because we know that this business if profitable once it do clicked but if not then try again but be sure to be much better because

gamblers or community are really very meticulous when it comes to platforms where they do tend to play.

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July 04, 2020, 08:53:15 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Gambling sites success will really be tagged up into its older or origin site Primedice - Stake .. Bustabit -- Bustadice and there are sites that had just popped out somewhere that do gain some popularity too like
Wolfbet, Coindragon, Windice, Rocketrun and much more to mention. I agree on the fact that they've come and go depending on people's choice on which one they would plan to play on.

Market competition is very fierce and if you dont make your gambling site good enough then you are bound to fail.This is why its important to give or make the best one out of there
and give the best service and you might get some chance for you to be consider.

Of all the years ive been here on this place there are really lots to mention.

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July 04, 2020, 09:05:46 PM
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I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail.

Opening or establishing a casino is another venture, I do not think that the risk of failure is close to 100% since we have seen several successful casinos in the past years.  Even Casinos that were created last year are still thriving (casino sites mentioned on the earlier replies).  I think the failure of most casinos solely depends on their management team.  Since I have seen several casinos that is already successful but shut down because of the owner's fault.

New Casinos may have a hard time getting new clients because of the fierce competition but still, somehow many of them manage to get their share of the pie in the industry.

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July 04, 2020, 10:26:43 PM
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I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail.

Opening or establishing a casino is another venture, I do not think that the risk of failure is close to 100% since we have seen several successful casinos in the past years.  Even Casinos that were created last year are still thriving (casino sites mentioned on the earlier replies).  I think the failure of most casinos solely depends on their management team.  Since I have seen several casinos that is already successful but shut down because of the owner's fault.

New Casinos may have a hard time getting new clients because of the fierce competition but still, somehow many of them manage to get their share of the pie in the industry.

Actually, there are several successful new casinos here that have been introduced in the forum.
You will notice the sincerity of these new casinos if they acquired their gambling license even before launching their platform.
So if the motive of the casino owner is just grab cash and go, they will not find time to apply for these licenses.
And on this regard, I can say I consider most of these legit casinos to be successful as their lifespan is relatively long than those without licenses.
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July 04, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
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While it's true that it is not easy to compete in such an industry and most of the times they fail, it's true as well that one can get a position if they try hard. Binance CEO shared the hidden formula of their exchange success. They did nothing but what their users said. It's same in the gambling industry too. Hear the voice of the users. Develop as per following users.
Well, still a new site have to face a lot of problem unless they don't have enough fund. Most of the sites just fail because of lack of proper investment.

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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Good question, there are lot of casinos that recently pop up and the first thing we heard about them is when they have their signature campaigns here, but some of them just have like a 4 week campaign while some continue to go on. So we really don't know what happens to those who run a short campaign. Of course, if they have a campaign here, there could be boost in rankings but it is interested to know what happens after they end the campaign. Do they still enjoy the benefits or even attracted new gamblers?

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July 04, 2020, 10:55:40 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

See how much advertising on this forum belongs to the casino. Among them there are old casinos that have long established themselves and have many fans. However, new ones are also constantly appearing. There is no point in listing them all. Just go to the forum services section and see a lot of bounty campaigns from new casinos. They advertise themselves because they want to attract regular players.
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

See how much advertising on this forum belongs to the casino. Among them there are old casinos that have long established themselves and have many fans. However, new ones are also constantly appearing. There is no point in listing them all. Just go to the forum services section and see a lot of bounty campaigns from new casinos. They advertise themselves because they want to attract regular players.

I agree with this. Most of these btc paying sig campaigns are owned by casinos. And most of the long running ones like bitvest and 777coin, are casino-based. And you will see also relatively new casinos that are currently holding their campaigns. So yes, there are successful new casinos out there. You can also check their respective threads in the Gambling section.
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July 04, 2020, 11:49:15 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

See how much advertising on this forum belongs to the casino. Among them there are old casinos that have long established themselves and have many fans. However, new ones are also constantly appearing. There is no point in listing them all. Just go to the forum services section and see a lot of bounty campaigns from new casinos. They advertise themselves because they want to attract regular players.

I agree with this. Most of these btc paying sig campaigns are owned by casinos. And most of the long running ones like bitvest and 777coin, are casino-based. And you will see also relatively new casinos that are currently holding their campaigns. So yes, there are successful new casinos out there. You can also check their respective threads in the Gambling section.

We can't know how successful the new casinos will be. We don't have access to their statistics. However, a good indicator here is the appearance of new casinos and their advertising costs. If someone wants to engage in such a business and invests money in it, it means that such a business can make a profit.
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It's a matter of marketing and promotion aspect to say the least because it will really drive out traffic to gain them tractions. It's not impossible they'll stand a chance with other reputed casinos as I said it's a matter of marketing (advertising) and other factors such as customer service, legalities, referral bonuses and much more though it will be tough considering the competition.
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For you, what does it mean if a casino is failed? Like they will close their service and decided not to operate anymore?
Because it's kinda difficult to say that the casino already fails.
Or if there is already no players on their casino? Or no more people deposit funds on their site?
For me, it is the meaning of fail casino for me, and they will slowly vanish or they will stop their operation because they can't pay anymore some of the cost for their operation.

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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

For me,  a success of casino isn't defined by how long it runs, but rather how it satisfied its clients for the time it is running. There are numerous and good casinos online and some only stops operating due to various factors such as having low players, as some are using other new and fresh platforms. The only thing that makes a gambler stay on a particular platform is that if it has fun games with best User-Interfaces (UI) and has an excellent User-Experience (UX). There are still a lot of running campaigns here in forum that is about gambling in general (that is of course has casinos in them), hence that wasn't a hundred percent chance they could fail.

Meanwhile, new casinos only fail due to the fact that most of them were just scam.

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July 05, 2020, 01:20:43 AM
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The business owner will always think to search and expand his business, and if he believes that the gambling industry can give him more money, he will take a risk to open a casino. Before he opens the casino, he will research how and why and everything else related to the casino. He will calculate how much percentage of his chance to make money among the other gambling sites because he knows that the competitions in the gambling industry are not easy.

I am sure that the new casino can become popular if they can give the best services to their members. As you know, the member doesn't want to have a problem, even for a little. So far, the member's issue is about depositing and withdrawing the money, and if the owner and his staff can solve this, I think they will have more members because the members will choose the gambling site with good reputations. The new casino, which is open in 2020, will have a chance against the old gambling site, as long as they can compete with the old gambling site.
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July 05, 2020, 01:21:19 AM
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You can see how BPlay turns out later on. They should be able to withstand the waves of famous casinos and make a name for themselves, with how Binance is backing them from behind and all. They're pretty new and I only found out about it due to someone posting the said collaboration with Binance a few days earlier.

I don't find it relatively weird how the competitions for casinos are this intense, and how the only casinos I know are mostly the famous ones. If they can't provide anything new that those famous ones already have, they're basically just replicating what those casinos have and making the players lose the reason why they should even play on their casinos. They keep doing it cause a casino is basically a money making machine if they can make it work, and if they had the capital to try it out, why not right?

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I think it depends on which market are you talking about? Europe? America? Asia? Because in my personal opinion, in Asia, online casino is still a huge hit. Along with the rapid growth of internet and technology, people are spending more and more time playing online (not just Casino, take example of Esports, spending time on social media,etc.)
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July 05, 2020, 01:38:41 AM
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I have seen a lot of new casino platforms conducting their own signature campaign here, which I think is a good marketing strategy. I had promoted coindragon before and it seems they are still operational and had been active in giving different promotions and challenges for their platform users. I also had promoted stake.com last year and I think they did a great job of surviving the market since they did a great promotion last year.

With the number of online gamblers and good promotions and games being provided by different platforms, new gambling platforms will have to step up to be able to cope-up with the services of the existing platform.
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I have seen a lot of new casino platforms conducting their own signature campaign here, which I think is a good marketing strategy. I had promoted coindragon before and it seems they are still operational and had been active in giving different promotions and challenges for their platform users. I also had promoted stake.com last year and I think they did a great job of surviving the market since they did a great promotion last year.

With the number of online gamblers and good promotions and games being provided by different platforms, new gambling platforms will have to step up to be able to cope-up with the services of the existing platform.

This is the best time to launch a new online casino because so many gamblers are home because of the pandemic and I agree that launching a signature bounty campaign for awareness is important if you want early recognition in the industry.

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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

For me,  a success of casino isn't defined by how long it runs, but rather how it satisfied its clients for the time it is running. There are numerous and good casinos online and some only stops operating due to various factors such as having low players, as some are using other new and fresh platforms. The only thing that makes a gambler stay on a particular platform is that if it has fun games with best User-Interfaces (UI) and has an excellent User-Experience (UX). There are still a lot of running campaigns here in forum that is about gambling in general (that is of course has casinos in them), hence that wasn't a hundred percent chance they could fail.

Isn't it mutually exclusive though, if online casino's are fun to play with, obviously it will have a good interface and UI, so you need to have both in order to be successful. As for new casinos, there could be some still operating up to this day, those that open in 2018-2019, maybe its just under the radar. But if you look at the Gambling Ann boards, there could be some success stories that we are not aware of.

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July 05, 2020, 04:18:30 AM
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Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.

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July 05, 2020, 05:26:02 AM
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There are still new rooms there are a lot of new casinos now and they are launching a new signature campaign this is to make a noise an introduce themselves to the community, they may not get a big share of the market immediately but they have a good chance to succeed if they continue the promotion and maintain a good repuation.

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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

There are many new decent casino which are created but could not survive because of lot of competition in the market. The big and trusted casino are doing a great job and gamblers do not find any reason to move to new casinos. If any new casino want to make name in the market, it needs to spend a lot of money on marketing and bonuses to attract the gamblers.

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July 05, 2020, 06:56:22 AM
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There are still new rooms there are a lot of new casinos now and they are launching a new signature campaign this is to make a noise an introduce themselves to the community, they may not get a big share of the market immediately but they have a good chance to succeed if they continue the promotion and maintain a good repuation.

I think it will take some time to actually judge new casinos if they are successful. We are still in crisis mode, a lot of people have more spare time due to covid 19. Even though people are less likely to spend a lot of money we are seeing gambler who usually went to onsite casinos now switching to online gambling.
For a casino to really be successful it would need to survive the times after the corona crisis. I really hope the online platforms for casino remains more diversified in the future.
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
Actually you are right that new casinos won't survive for too long because of the already massive casinos have grabbed almost all the gamblers database and for a new casino to survive they have to either give a ton of promotions and effectively working with a negative house edge and even doing so means that only until the promotions are there the gamblers would stick and once the promotion is over there is a small percentage of people that actually stay on the casino.

But that said there is a new casino in the market I have big expectations with and that is goosebet and while I am not promoting them or anything but they sound solid and their interface looks smooth even enough they are a bit laggy maybe because of the immediate pool of users since they opened recently on 1st July.
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July 05, 2020, 08:48:01 AM
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Yeah, I was also thinking of Roobet when I was creating this thread... They've hired a reputable manager and launched a signature campaign. But ryzaadit says that even they are not technically new because they were already someone before becoming a crypto casino.
Some have mentioned relatively new casinos that might get a chance of joining the league, thanks for that!
For you, what does it mean if a casino is failed? Like they will close their service and decided not to operate anymore?
Because it's kinda difficult to say that the casino already fails.
Or if there is already no players on their casino? Or no more people deposit funds on their site?
For me, it is the meaning of fail casino for me, and they will slowly vanish or they will stop their operation because they can't pay anymore some of the cost for their operation.
If a casino does not attract enough players to become profitable, if a casino doesn't ring a bell, that's a failure. I know it's a relative term, and some casinos might gain some players and go on, but in this thread I was thinking about a chance of new casinos to make it to top-10 or top-20 of crypto casinos.
This is the best time to launch a new online casino because so many gamblers are home because of the pandemic and I agree that launching a signature bounty campaign for awareness is important if you want early recognition in the industry.
But is it, though? I agree that people probably spend more time online, and casinos are probably enjoying more players than usually, but there is a variety of reputable casinos to choose from, so I don't see why people would be willing to try gambling at a new one these days.

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What about acewins.io?. I have seen that they also have signature campaign and after that they also have a free tournament of poker game. As of now, I haven't check about acewins and also I am not one of the team member of that site. Anyway, I am curious about the new sites that pop up and didn't know if that casino is still up and running.

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July 05, 2020, 03:10:37 PM
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For you, what does it mean if a casino is failed? Like they will close their service and decided not to operate anymore?
Because it's kinda difficult to say that the casino already fails.
Or if there is already no players on their casino? Or no more people deposit funds on their site?
For me, it is the meaning of fail casino for me, and they will slowly vanish or they will stop their operation because they can't pay anymore some of the cost for their operation.
I think he meant that if you check the market there are so many casinos and sportsbook but only a couple of them are prominent and the rest will slowly die of their own or forced to scam to even survived in a saturated market.

Personally I think that any casino that ends up having loss makes a big mistake with their calculation of COCA which I read as cost of customer acquisition because what happens is, to force their entry in the saturated market they run a lot of offers and welcome bonus which actually work against them.

Let us suppose you are paying approximate 0.005 BTC per gambler you get on average and while the average revenue per gambler comes out to be 0.0025 then it is actually a mistake in COCA calculation and that is where they are miscounting.

I do not see any reason why a casino would fail if they make their calculations right.
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July 05, 2020, 03:31:28 PM
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Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.



In order for casino owners to get used to the new business and compete with those who have been on the market for a long time, you need to invest a lot of money in advertising, in encouraging new users. You can offer something new that other online casinos don't have. So far, I've only seen ways to invest a lot of money in advertising and offer welcome bonuses to new players.
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Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.



In order for casino owners to get used to the new business and compete with those who have been on the market for a long time, you need to invest a lot of money in advertising, in encouraging new users. You can offer something new that other online casinos don't have. So far, I've only seen ways to invest a lot of money in advertising and offer welcome bonuses to new players.

It's really difficult for new casinos to get interest from gamblers as the business is nearly saturated. There are trusted sites that are running with trust for years and covering almost all of the gambling genre. No one would try to risk trying some new sites which offers the same thing as old.
Hence to get some attention, newer casinos should bring something new and unique to get attention of the users.


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Hence to get some attention, newer casinos should bring something new and unique to get attention of the users.
I have here in the forum for how many years this is what I have been witnesses in some newer casino. They put a lot of effort to do their marketing strategies, having giveaways, bonuses, and promotions as well just to have build trust in the community. These are the way to have a unique style to get the gambler's attention.

There's nothing wrong with the new, new gambling site is very exciting to explore new features that you never encounter. I think if you don't trust because this is newly launched, why not just try a small amount and experience to gamble a new one, I guess you will also rewarding if you will find a bug on a new gambling site.

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July 05, 2020, 05:57:05 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail

That's kinda normal

The majority of startups (like 90% or something to that tune) fail within their first year. Nassim Taleb says (and I generally agree with him) that it is required for the industry as a whole to prosper. More or less, people take risks because people are risky overall, and the rewards are high. Besides, entrepreneurs reveal more optimistic attitude toward life, and thus they are prone to underestimate the risks and overestimate their abilities

This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Let me guess, many have already mentioned wolf.bet

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July 05, 2020, 07:39:34 PM
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There are casinos that survive for example wolf.bet who are doing nothing extraordinary or any out of the world experience but what they have done is, they have ensured consistency because myself as a gambler it feels very risky to deposit in a new casino and only way crypto casinos can make their stand is by being consistent.

Even a small problem with a casino means they loose the gambler forever and I don't want to be rude but that is one reason why cloudbet is less popular than sportsbet.io because with cloudbet they came earlier i think in the market but they always had some issues with their gamblers while sportsbet.io remained consistent and personally I never had any issues with them in fact their support system is pretty good and only better support in my mind is stake's support.

So, little things and consistency makes up for the large stand for a new casino.
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~snip~
Hence to get some attention, newer casinos should bring something new and unique to get attention of the users.
I have here in the forum for how many years this is what I have been witnesses in some newer casino. They put a lot of effort to do their marketing strategies, having giveaways, bonuses, and promotions as well just to have build trust in the community. These are the way to have a unique style to get the gambler's attention.

There's nothing wrong with the new, new gambling site is very exciting to explore new features that you never encounter. I think if you don't trust because this is newly launched, why not just try a small amount and experience to gamble a new one, I guess you will also rewarding if you will find a bug on a new gambling site.

I think there would be at least a lot of information about an online casino that would deliver beer to their regular players at home.  Cool Of course, in compliance with local legislation. This would be a great marketing move and they would be featured in many news stories.
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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?

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July 05, 2020, 10:16:03 PM
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There are casinos that survive for example wolf.bet who are doing nothing extraordinary or any out of the world experience but what they have done is, they have ensured consistency because myself as a gambler it feels very risky to deposit in a new casino and only way crypto casinos can make their stand is by being consistent.

Even a small problem with a casino means they loose the gambler forever and I don't want to be rude but that is one reason why cloudbet is less popular than sportsbet.io because with cloudbet they came earlier i think in the market but they always had some issues with their gamblers while sportsbet.io remained consistent and personally I never had any issues with them in fact their support system is pretty good and only better support in my mind is stake's support.

So, little things and consistency makes up for the large stand for a new casino.

Consistency on giving out the best service as they can and you are right that even simple problems on where players can experience on will surely count as loss number because they wouldnt turn their back and would find another place to play on which wont give out similar experience on the site they had problems on.Also, aside from consistency they should at least consider on giving out relevant updates or addups and i have seen several gambling sites which do able to give out that matter.Even little by little they are making their site even more better.I agree on what others said that competition in gambling industry is very high thats why as a businessowner
you should consider all positive aspects that will really help you out to sustain.

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July 05, 2020, 10:48:04 PM
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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?

Casinos come and go. The only hard to beat are the established ones. Lesser chance to survive the competition when there are fewer people to the community they've built. 

The newer casinos have to give out as much as possible to be noticed. There is pressure to do a signature campaign for its normally what's done to get some trust and vouch from users. It's a struggle, other casinos really build a forum for their own just to keep their clients so they won't stray to some new ones.

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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?

It is very easy to attract attention with good advertising, welcome bonuses and a beautiful and convenient website design. However, it is much more difficult to make sure that those who came to play remain there forever. It is most difficult to acquire regular visitors.
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I agree that the risk of opening a casinos has a high risk, because it is very difficult to compete with old casinos that are more solid and reliable.
So not a few new casinos that finally closed, but did not reduce the interest of people to continue to try to open new casinos. If based my observation,
because the online casinos industry is very much in demand. It becomes profitable for some people, especially in conditions as it is now related to
COVID19, many people choose to be at home. So the demand for online casinos is increasing.

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I agree that the risk of opening a casinos has a high risk, because it is very difficult to compete with old casinos that are more solid and reliable.
So not a few new casinos that finally closed, but did not reduce the interest of people to continue to try to open new casinos. If based my observation,
because the online casinos industry is very much in demand. It becomes profitable for some people, especially in conditions as it is now related to
COVID19, many people choose to be at home. So the demand for online casinos is increasing.

If the new casino can't survive in any situation, then there is something wrong with them, which they don't realize. Perhaps, they need to analyze the mistake of why they can't survive because if one or more things can't work well, that can impact the casino itself. The owner needs to evaluate how good their casino works every month, so they will have a report in which they can evaluate what matters that will need to improve. If they can give the best thing for their members and maintain their website to work well, I am sure the casino will stay longer, and the casino will have more gamblers who will come to their place and become their members. Currently, the online gambling industry will be a more profitable business because people stay at home, and some of them still want to play gambling from home.
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 they take risk because its a business . i think no business is risk free .  gambling is a good business so this gives an ilussion for business minded people to think that they can earn big on it and that is true as long as those business type of people will do thier best  . those who have failed lack something that people are looking for  . stake dot com is not new and as far as i know the site was built on the year 2017  .  there are new casinos that got popular , take roobet , windice , bustadice , wolfbet and many more as example   .
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I agree that the risk of opening a casinos has a high risk, because it is very difficult to compete with old casinos that are more solid and reliable.
So not a few new casinos that finally closed, but did not reduce the interest of people to continue to try to open new casinos. If based my observation,
because the online casinos industry is very much in demand. It becomes profitable for some people, especially in conditions as it is now related to
COVID19, many people choose to be at home. So the demand for online casinos is increasing.

What is there is a vaccine and this pandemic suddenly put to a stop. Will there still be demand for online casinos specially for those who just open up to take advantage of the situation. If I'm a casino operator, I would look behind this Covid-19 situation and will try to strive to compete against name casinos already so that my business will grow. Improved and listen to your customers to become more profitable. I would say that there could still be new casinos that survived and still attracting new gamblers like everyday.

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July 06, 2020, 07:23:52 AM
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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?

It is very easy to attract attention with good advertising, welcome bonuses and a beautiful and convenient website design. However, it is much more difficult to make sure that those who came to play remain there forever. It is most difficult to acquire regular visitors.

It is not that easy, good advertising such as signature campaign or forum banners does not give any guarantees that people will come to the site. Beginning phase of a business including gambling business is the hard part as it needs so many hard work as well as patience from the owner. I can even say that keeping players to stay is easier than attracting new players to come.

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July 06, 2020, 07:50:28 AM
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It's just like the actual scenario of the business world, some are bound to succeed while some are bound to fail.
Stake.com, primedice and other popular casinos definitely has a big market, and they are so profitable, but the definition of success is very simple, they don't need to be as big as the casino's I've mentioned above, but as long as they are operating profitably.

Some will just come and go because they are likely low budget casino or not really ready for the competition, or probably created just to scam people.
Actually there's still a lot of casinos out there that are not advertising anymore in the forum, yet they are still successful.

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July 06, 2020, 08:18:12 AM
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How do you define successful casinos? Like they have already doubled or more their capital or what? or just successfully launch a gambling platform. For me, we cannot really tell if the casinos are successful already when it is new, on early-stage promotion and marketing takes place it does not mean that they can afford to fund a big promotion means that they are successful already it is their strategy to attract users. I guess we can tell if the gambling site is successful if it is running for several years and continuing to provide better service and acquire huge daily users/players.
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July 06, 2020, 08:39:28 AM
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Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.



In order for casino owners to get used to the new business and compete with those who have been on the market for a long time, you need to invest a lot of money in advertising, in encouraging new users. You can offer something new that other online casinos don't have. So far, I've only seen ways to invest a lot of money in advertising and offer welcome bonuses to new players.

The should probably create good/safe betting games that more bettors can win regularly, learn something productive from or both. I guess that will count as unique if nothing like that exist already in betting world. Most are probably still creating things that do not excit people well enough and that aren't easy to use/win
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July 06, 2020, 08:42:13 AM
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The competition is getting harder time to time, this is the reason why new casinos needs to work so hard in order to compete in the gambling industry.
It takes not a short period of time for new casinos to be popular, most all the recent popular casinos came from Zero.
So it is reasonable if we cant find new casinos that got popular in just few months unless the site backed up or created by older popular site (Stake as example)

But it depends on the timeline of their operation and the service that they provide to their customers. It is not that if you are a casino that operates for so long, it will just you become successful and popular immediately. It depends on how you will deal with the taste of your gambler customers to build a good reputation for your casino. New casinos are normally not that popular from the start due to the reputation and loyalty of customers of other gambling casinos.

Any new casinos has the chance obviously but the only thing that can make a new casino survive is a hard work from the owner to promote and to give the best offers for players.
In conclusion, I think it needs more than a year for a new site to be a popular site that can compete with other sites that has great reputation in the market.

All of the new casinos have the potential to grow but it depends on how they will regulate their own platforms. Hardwork, patience, and being transparent to its customer is what the gamblers need in order for them to trust and like your service as a casino.
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July 06, 2020, 08:46:05 AM
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How do you define successful casinos? Like they have already doubled or more their capital or what? or just successfully launch a gambling platform.
Probably like a being successful casino that has a lot of users. IMO, that's my definition of success for casino developers. It's the achievement that they are longing for. Having hundreds to thousands of active players in a daily basis can be said as a success for them. But that's not the stop over of a casino for defining success because they are a continuous business and there are more serious things that they have to face as they operate years after years.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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I think it's hard to determine if a casino is successful or not, we can't determine it by just looking at the number of gamblers patronizing the site or the number of promotions they have, it's only the casinos who can determine themselves whether they are successful or not as they are the only one who knows their financial report.

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One of the new Casino that's making a name now just launch this year and hopefully, they can last and be one of the older casinos that we enjoyed playing is, Casineos you can check them out if you haven't tried their platform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222618.0


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July 06, 2020, 11:20:44 AM
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Looking at how the competition in online gambling, it will be really hard for new casinos to even reach half of the old and trusted casino's reputation and the number of customers. I think it's just the same with other businesses when you know that the product or service is popular and there is a lot of competition, it's hard to compete with them unless you can offer something they don't have.

Aside from scam casinos, I also think that a lot of new online casinos failed to gain attention is because of the lack of promotion? I mean, since it's a new casino, it's already given that it will be hard fo attract gamblers that is why you should work hard in promoting your casino. Innovate the site and what they offer, or they can do a lot of promos, contests, and such. A great marketing strategy is essential especially in a wide and growing competition of online gambling.
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July 06, 2020, 11:29:29 AM
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One of the new Casino that's making a name now just launch this year and hopefully, they can last and be one of the older casinos that we enjoyed playing is, Casineos you can check them out if you haven't tried their platform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222618.0

I have not use this site yet, thanks for sharing, but can we already consider this site a new and a successful site.
Please let us know if you have been following the site, because AFAIK, there are no new sites that are already successful here in the forum, but of course that depends on how we define the word success, if it's based on popularity then maybe it would not happen easily as it will take time.

One site which I think popular now was sportsbet.io, I have been using this site before until now and they have really improve a lot, and they already gained a lot of loyal gamblers that's why I can say they are successful, but then,  that's just based on my observation only.

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July 06, 2020, 11:40:19 AM
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One of the new Casino that's making a name now just launch this year and hopefully, they can last and be one of the older casinos that we enjoyed playing is, Casineos you can check them out if you haven't tried their platform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222618.0
Well for me it is roobet,though it runs for almost 2 years now yet they are still New in this field but we can prove how successful this team and company was



https://casinoonline-bet.com/what-is-roobet-history/#:~:text=Roobet%20Casino%20was%20founded%20in,fun%2C%20fair%20and%20safe%20manner.

and with their multiple promos and games now?no wonder they will be the biggest gambling network to come this 2020.









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I think that there is no real new casino which has become quite famous during this time.In fact I think this will be very difficult because in order to win audience you have to bring a wider variety of games and better promotions which is not easy at all to do.You cannot expect to grab some players from other casinos if you as a new casino don’t offer the above.

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I don't know any new casino that I could revommend. Haven't tried or heard of any. Although, I'm not actually the type to experimente with casinos too much, if I'm satisfied with games choice, security, customer support and withdrawal policy why changing anything.
I can understand that players want to try something new but just because of that new casinos that are often cover for scam appear all the time.

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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?

It is very easy to attract attention with good advertising, welcome bonuses and a beautiful and convenient website design. However, it is much more difficult to make sure that those who came to play remain there forever. It is most difficult to acquire regular visitors.

It is not that easy, good advertising such as signature campaign or forum banners does not give any guarantees that people will come to the site. Beginning phase of a business including gambling business is the hard part as it needs so many hard work as well as patience from the owner. I can even say that keeping players to stay is easier than attracting new players to come.

As far as I understand advertising on the forum for most of these casinos is not the only one. They are also advertised in other places in order to reach the target audience as much as possible.
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July 06, 2020, 02:06:46 PM
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Casino sites is a trend right now that's why many business man are following the demand and you can see there's a lot of money to be made even millions in only a matter of days because some whales bet huge amounts even though the probability of winning is low.
Some fail because they dont have good funding, promotions, SEO and most of them are fake gambling sites.

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July 06, 2020, 02:57:11 PM
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Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.



In order for casino owners to get used to the new business and compete with those who have been on the market for a long time, you need to invest a lot of money in advertising, in encouraging new users. You can offer something new that other online casinos don't have. So far, I've only seen ways to invest a lot of money in advertising and offer welcome bonuses to new players.

The should probably create good/safe betting games that more bettors can win regularly, learn something productive from or both. I guess that will count as unique if nothing like that exist already in betting world. Most are probably still creating things that do not excit people well enough and that aren't easy to use/win


Increasing the winning percentage of player's bets is a bad competitive for the casino. If every casino does this, they will run at a loss. This is deadly for business. There are many ways to attract players, and even I have written about them here many times.
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July 08, 2020, 01:28:31 PM
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That's kinda normal

The majority of startups (like 90% or something to that tune) fail within their first year. Nassim Taleb says (and I generally agree with him) that it is required for the industry as a whole to prosper. More or less, people take risks because people are risky overall, and the rewards are high. Besides, entrepreneurs reveal more optimistic attitude toward life, and thus they are prone to underestimate the risks and overestimate their abilities

Let me guess, many have already mentioned wolf.bet
Hm... Maybe it's true that it's normal in any sphere for the majority of projects to fail. Although it seems that the success rate of new casinos is far from 10%. More like 1% or even less than that. As for wolf.bet, it was indeed mentioned before, and it's a good example. But there aren't many such examples, even though we can see a few new casinos appearing on the forum every week.
The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?
That's another interesting question because I am not sure it's obvious that a casino focusing on one game has more chances of getting popular than a casino that offers various features. For instance, Sportsbet.io is a sportsbook, but it's also a casino with slots, roulette, blackjack and other games. I believe most successful casinos actually offer lots of stuff rather than one game, although that's debatable.

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July 08, 2020, 01:47:55 PM
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That's kinda normal

The majority of startups (like 90% or something to that tune) fail within their first year. Nassim Taleb says (and I generally agree with him) that it is required for the industry as a whole to prosper. More or less, people take risks because people are risky overall, and the rewards are high. Besides, entrepreneurs reveal more optimistic attitude toward life, and thus they are prone to underestimate the risks and overestimate their abilities

Let me guess, many have already mentioned wolf.bet
Hm... Maybe it's true that it's normal in any sphere for the majority of projects to fail. Although it seems that the success rate of new casinos is far from 10%. More like 1% or even less than that. As for wolf.bet, it was indeed mentioned before, and it's a good example. But there aren't many such examples, even though we can see a few new casinos appearing on the forum every week

I don't know the exact number

So 90% was just to show that the survival rate is not very high, as it were. Regarding the projects you mention, I've seen a couple of them here. They look more like a student's homework rather than real stuff. If we exclude these wannabe casinos, the percentage of failures should go down. Anyway, Wolf.bet has already survived its first year

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July 08, 2020, 01:51:20 PM
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Casino sites is a trend right now that's why many business man are following the demand and you can see there's a lot of money to be made even millions in only a matter of days because some whales bet huge amounts even though the probability of winning is low.
Some fail because they dont have good funding, promotions, SEO and most of them are fake gambling sites.

low probables are equals to high return , thats why they take risk for easy money just in case their bet hits  but itll also be a loose to you if your the owner of the casino   . whales are high bettors but only wise and will only hit and run   .  before that , how can assure that whales are gonna be play on your site if your site is only new on this industry  . most gambling site easily fail because they are not legit  and second would be they lack of exposure due to the competitive market  in which the cost for best promotion is also costy
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There are many elements which affect the existence of a casino. In my point of view, there are so many casinos created in the last few years and because of that reason, you need to have services, games and interface which differentiate your own casino from others. Customer support, transaction speed are also main components making a strong gambling website. On the other hands, more and more people have the chance to interact with the internet as well as the cryptocurrency world, creating a bigger market for anyone who want to join the online gambling industry.

However, as I always see, people only tend to stay in one gambling site if it makes them feel comfortable, relax and enjoyable. Word of mouth is also a strong marketing tool which help you to gain more and more customer. If you want your casino run smoothly, let the customers speak what they want and hear what improvement is need from their voice. A change can be small but it will significantly create a healthy and strong environment where gamblers can trust you and your system

The last component I want to mention is the capital. You cant compete with other gambling sites if you have a low capital which can even maintain your website for at least half of a year. 200000$ is needed to maintain your business. in my point of view, and you can do tons of things with this huge capital.

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July 08, 2020, 05:04:15 PM
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Most new casinos created in the recent days just have the similar user experience with the existing reputed casinos so they literally can't drive people into their sites without having anything new in their site.And also some casinos were started with very less capital so they will go bankrupt even if there are few huge wins on their site, we need to understand casino business is not for everyone, start one when you have enough money to run casino atleast for a year even without making any profits.
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Most new casinos created in the recent days just have the similar user experience with the existing reputed casinos so they literally can't drive people into their sites without having anything new in their site.And also some casinos were started with very less capital so they will go bankrupt even if there are few huge wins on their site, we need to understand casino business is not for everyone, start one when you have enough money to run casino atleast for a year even without making any profits.

With casinos, they have similar functionality and user experience. The only thing that a casino can lure people into is a profitable offer, more profitable than that of competitors.
Otherwise, no one will risk their money in a new untested place. It should be suspicious of all new casinos. They are not legal, unregulated, and if they make too attractive conditions, it is worth being wary.

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July 08, 2020, 05:44:43 PM
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Most new casinos created in the recent days just have the similar user experience with the existing reputed casinos so they literally can't drive people into their sites without having anything new in their site.And also some casinos were started with very less capital so they will go bankrupt even if there are few huge wins on their site, we need to understand casino business is not for everyone, start one when you have enough money to run casino atleast for a year even without making any profits.

It is like following the trend, since now many casinos were shut due to lockdown and eventually people got migrated to online gambling so many of them wanted to seize this opportunity and as a result came up with many gambling sites for the users. So, as such this either taking the new business venture online or trying to see if they can have some share of this online gambling and survive it.
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July 08, 2020, 05:56:09 PM
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We can see that most of the new services started recently have been successful. The main reason for this is not the quality of the services, but the high demand for the gambling games due to the process we are in. Of course, it is difficult to predict this, but if you want to comment for the last period, it is possible to say that a few casino services have achieved great success after they started operating.
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July 08, 2020, 06:15:40 PM
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As far as I've seen, most new casinos end up growing to a modest size, and then they stagnate around that size.

A few of them try to advertise here on the forum for a few weeks (seemingly thinking Bitcointalk is the only place to advertise), and then they stop their campaign and remain a small size.

I think the issue is most of these places simply think that a good game or two is enough to build a player base. While this is true in some rare cases, most of these also lack a proper marketing team or budget.

What good is having a great game, if you don't have the resources needed to tell people about it?

This is why the most popular casinos today spend a good fraction of their income on marketing, since they know that's what it takes to both acquire new players, retrieve old ones, and maintain current players.
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July 08, 2020, 06:54:03 PM
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We can see that most of the new services started recently have been successful. The main reason for this is not the quality of the services, but the high demand for the gambling games due to the process we are in. Of course, it is difficult to predict this, but if you want to comment for the last period, it is possible to say that a few casino services have achieved great success after they started operating.
I agree with this, This season is sure the season of an online casino because of our current situation. The physical casinos are going close or they are just accepting a limited number of players in their facility and some players just want to stay away from crowded places and just want's to play into an online casino that's why the demand of online casino today is on its peak. But I think the quality of the casino is still needed because there are too many options there and the quality of the casino can make the online casino go successful or closed in this opportunity.
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betearn is pretty knew and i think there pretty good and growing at a nice rate. There provable fair system is a little suspect but seems fine in genral

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July 08, 2020, 07:32:10 PM
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And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Yes. That's the challenge.

With good promotion and features, surely they can attract users on their site. It's a matter of hard work and effort. Just because there are reputable around doesn't mean they don't stand a chance. Gamblers also want a different taste and if somehow that new site able to think of the best features that should be implemented, chances are there that they will catch the attention of the gamblers.

I admire those casinos that joined the wave even there are now big and reputable casinos.

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July 09, 2020, 12:33:54 AM
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Lets take note that building new casinos is a business and we know the risks of building a new business already.
Competitors, Reputation, Money, Traffic (customer satisfaction), Location, etc. These are the things that you may want to see before building a casino.

Also take note that building a business in general takes time to be a successful one. New casinos will not be successful in weeks or months. It will take years for it to be a successful one. Those new casinos knew that they are up against the old casinos that is why they are building a trademark (something like a feature in their site that can only be seen on their site).

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July 09, 2020, 06:49:35 AM
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betearn is pretty knew and i think there pretty good and growing at a nice rate. There provable fair system is a little suspect but seems fine in genral
Can you please clarify what casino are you talking about specifically because after googling the name you gave I was able to find that some bet earn was actually a scam and they were busted as you can read here  - http://tradinghorizon.com/tag/betearn-scam/

If you miss-typed the casino name I would request you to please give us the correct name since I cannot even find a thread at bitcointalk with any similar names. In my opinion there are very few casinos that are created in recent past and have been successful. Last casino I remember I used to play which was new was dicebitco.in and they ran away with their dirty scam and since then I stopped betting on new ones.
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Of course everything requires a process. Competition between casinos will also help them to grow better. Many new sites have to back down from competition because they lost to previous competitors and everything they did was in vain. Promotion is one of the efforts to get a lot of visitors to the site, and this promotion will be useful if the site can provide comfort, security, and attractiveness to the players.

It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.

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It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.

For me it would be easier to be successful if a gambling site like online casino will do giveaways and bonuses. This is what had been always done from the promising online casino to attract potential gamblers and to reach target number of gamers everyday.

Spending also for advertisement would be ideal to keep the integrity of the new casino. And then over a period of time may it be in the long run or short period of time to reach the ROI will definitely will going to happen.

Patience is just needed in every investment. Good maanagement will also make the new casino to be recognized as a strong establish online casino.
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July 09, 2020, 01:07:39 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.



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July 09, 2020, 01:28:27 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other,
Well Roobet seems to be start Business back in 2018 so Basically you are correct that they are one of the newest but they are the most  popular now,running multiple event to Lure players is what they are doing now.
we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.
Absolutely,Roober runs their Business very generously ,I remember that Once Yahoo made so complaints about this casino but eventually they come to an agreement .

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.
If you don't work carefully for your reputation then your company will end like a shit in this Community and even outside because gamblers are very particular on this.









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July 09, 2020, 02:53:57 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.
Definitely you are right. New casino should take advantage foe now due to pandemic and by this getting reputation from the users will be an advantage. It would be good also to get ratings from them and to get also their comments and suggestion to get the idea on how to serve them better.

Aside from that, ads also is very effective in promoting new casino. I had seen few online casino had been into promotion and giving good bonuses are now stable and  establish with more users in their platform.
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I think it is difficult if they do not do promotions because the old sites that have a good reputation still exist today, and thus of course for them or a relatively new gambling site will definitely be difficult to compete, but it all depends on how big and high their consistency to build and grow their reputation, because even if they do promotions but they are not consistent then in the end their project will die too and at least many things like that have happened.

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.

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July 09, 2020, 09:08:02 PM
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I think it is difficult if they do not do promotions because the old sites that have a good reputation still exist today, and thus of course for them or a relatively new gambling site will definitely be difficult to compete, but it all depends on how big and high their consistency to build and grow their reputation, because even if they do promotions but they are not consistent then in the end their project will die too and at least many things like that have happened.

The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

specially to those who are just starting up on exact not so big capital.

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July 09, 2020, 09:46:31 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
Answer lies in your question. Stake is a new casino, you can't deny this fact but at the same time you mention that it's not new because there is primedice team behind it, so, primedice is the key here. Well established, experienced team launched new casino stake that achieved great success because of good management and proper strategies that includes marketing and everything.
New casinos fail because most of them don't have necessary budget to handle developers, marketing and winning costs, some of them want to run casino just by buying some scripts online, ie trolls. Serious people will never fail in this business. See the success of casinos like Bitsler, FJ, cryptogames, yolodice and similar ones, their success is not a secret and there isn't any secret formula except good capital and hard work for more creativity and progress.
Also newer and probably another successful crypto gambling website can become wolfbet. So, not everything fails.

It's never too late to run any business and achieve success. Not only business but humanity is using gold and paper money for centuries but Bitcoin achieved huge success in a very short time frame and you may know how it all started, without massive ads and etc run by satoshi.

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The only online Casinos that I get to hear about are quite literally the ones that have or have had signature campaigns.  As to whether or not they are any good, the fact that they can continue to pay for Campaigns should in itself be an indicator of the Casino's success - unless of course they had a pre-launch budget they are committed to with a Campaign Manager/Escrow who is holding the funds for them, no matter what.

(I'm surprised you didn't give your own Signature a plug while you were at it)

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July 10, 2020, 11:31:43 AM
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The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

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July 10, 2020, 01:44:12 PM
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The only online Casinos that I get to hear about are quite literally the ones that have or have had signature campaigns.  As to whether or not they are any good, the fact that they can continue to pay for Campaigns should in itself be an indicator of the Casino's success - unless of course they had a pre-launch budget they are committed to with a Campaign Manager/Escrow who is holding the funds for them, no matter what.

(I'm surprised you didn't give your own Signature a plug while you were at it)
I’m also depending on a signature campaign when it comes to new casinos because they always do it and most of them succeed on their first phase and some of them continue to grow up to this day. New casinos can compete with the old one, gamblers what to try something new and honestly, I love how the new gambling site compete with the others and they are really offering a great rewards and bounties when you play with them so I think that’s also a good marketing strategy.

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July 10, 2020, 02:33:47 PM
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I think yes and it will depend on the competitive package of that casino. Im not sure if roobet just release this year or maybe the year before that but they are definitely a new platform compared to other, we can see how users attracted to this casino because they always launching a very good promotional bonuses on their platform and even here on forum. If all casino can do that they can stay longer in the business.

Other casinos problem are lack of reputation or simply involved on some issues they are not accounted for ending up losing players on their platform.
It really becomes an essential part of new running businesses to maximize the use of marketing strategy and promotions because that's what they need to attract customers. Promotional bonuses can also be their investment if they really want to gain attention or get recognized by gamblers.

New casinos may find it hard to build a reputation and gain enough attention, but if they would really work hard and try their best, they can have an opportunity to do well in the market just like with other old and trusted casinos.



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July 10, 2020, 04:36:51 PM
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The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

All right. Most startups do not know exactly which paths will be most effective and will give the greatest result. You can find out only by doing something, checking one of the ways.
Therefore, it is always a double-edged sword, on the one hand decisions that are moderately risky, and on the other, a limited budget. Nevertheless, you have to make a choice, and often too careful steps lead to the death of the project.

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Bonus, it is a program that gambling site owners must consider to attract the attention of gamblers. Deposit bonuses, welcome bonuses and also a number of other bonuses such as loyalty are what gamblers expect. I think some gambling sites that do promotion also do the same thing related to giving bonuses to players. Examples are FJ, Roobet, Wolf.bet and others.

The success of a site will depend on the activity and the players trust in the site. If the player feel comfortable, safe and doesnt feel disadvantaged for various reasons such as fairness then I think the number of site visit will increase gradually. Many gamblers want gambling sites not to implement KYC because they want to continue playing anonymously. This will also be the reason why the number of players and site revenue is difficult to increase (new sites).

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Of course everything requires a process. Competition between casinos will also help them to grow better. Many new sites have to back down from competition because they lost to previous competitors and everything they did was in vain. Promotion is one of the efforts to get a lot of visitors to the site, and this promotion will be useful if the site can provide comfort, security, and attractiveness to the players.
Competition between casinos now are relatively high since there is a huge growth on the number of players in online gambling platforms. And it is true that some casinos are closing due to scarcity of players that maintains the leg of the platform. In my POV, new casinos will not be as entertained as the old ones, most probably players will just ignore due to the fact that they already found their place that even the bonuses won't attract them anymore.

It is possible that the new casino will get gambler enthusiasm if they really look ideal for the needs of players. The more attractive a site is, the better it is to enjoy. KYC will also be considered by gambler and it is not uncommon for people to avoid this type of casino.
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July 10, 2020, 07:23:02 PM
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The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

All right. Most startups do not know exactly which paths will be most effective and will give the greatest result. You can find out only by doing something, checking one of the ways

Well, it is not actually just about startups and small businesses

Any business, be it huge or small, global or local, exists in essentially the same conditions. The difference is that international corporations can plan further ahead, i.e. their planning horizon can be much longer due to their sheer size and the amount of factors they have under their control or bear upon. But they are still not omnipotent or invincible. History is littered with the remnants of many now-defunct business giants (e.g. Pan Am Airways)

Nevertheless, you have to make a choice, and often too careful steps lead to the death of the project

That's the point. Doing nothing is generally a losing strategy overall versus doing something. Even if you do something wrong and it doesn't kill you in the process, in most cases, given the power of introspection and reflection, you will see where you failed and can then change your ways to avoid the failure next time

This is called experience

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Most people here in the crypto world are tired of new casinos launching and disappearing afterwards. There's just so many of them that people doesn't seem to care anymore as long as they are getting the value for their money. 2018 was an exceptionally hard time for casinos to make money since that is the time when most regulations about crypto were imposed, and that is also the time when the market has gone haywire due to the crash from the ATH. There are tons of people interested in new bookies since we have limited of those, but casinos? We have plenty, and people would stick into their platforms where their loyalty is already amounting to 'something' due to the loyalty programs imposed by long-standing and reputable ones.

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There are successfully launched proven fair casinos but there are scams, unfair casinos too in both recent years and this year. The success is all about having nice promos for luring new players and this year the Roobet team made huge promotions for Bitcointalk users. The Casineos is also newly launched, but they are on the right track because of the mechanisms to verify bet results or fairness.

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July 10, 2020, 09:44:20 PM
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The world of online gambling is indeed quite difficult for new casinos to survive, because many of its old casinos do promotions well,
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It is obvious that the market is in equilibrium - the existing number of casinos satisfies all demand, so new casinos have no chance to survive. With huge investments, you can take part of the market and be profitable, but the payback of such a project is apparently low, so large players (new) do not go to this market.

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July 10, 2020, 09:57:12 PM
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The world of online gambling is indeed quite difficult for new casinos to survive, because many of its old casinos do promotions well,
making new casinos difficult to get users. From 2017 until now there have been so many new casinos that are closed or scams,maybe
many people who dare to take risks to keep trying to open new casinos with a large percentage of failures. Because see the prospect
of an online gambling business world is getting better, especially now that the pandemic situation that has not ended has made the
popularity of online gambling more increasing. Unfortunately only a few new casinos that have succeeded and have survived until now,
for example Roobet.
Ive seen several excluding Roobet in the list which had able to withstand by the test of time and still able to operate even it didnt get that much number of players.

This market or industry is fierce when it comes to competition talks but we know that this had always been part when you are tending to create this business.

Only the best ones will survive and the shitty ones will easy die.Some do tried their best but they do end up on closing its doors since it isnt feasible anymore to continue
if they arent generating something.

It is obvious that the market is in equilibrium - the existing number of casinos satisfies all demand, so new casinos have no chance to survive. With huge investments, you can take part of the market and be profitable, but the payback of such a project is apparently low, so large players (new) do not go to this market.

You cant say that it would had 0% chance but to think on how small the success rate then it would really be a gamble for its owner to make one.

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The rise of the new Casinos is due to the high penetration and use of mobile phones. There is a great expectation in the development of cost-effective applications that will allow the growth of the market. Although for this year due to the pandemic sports betting will not have the projected impact. There is a positive balance that we can discover in this study.

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If you don't work carefully for your reputation then your company will end like a shit in this Community and even outside because gamblers are very particular on this.
This should be their priority in order not to run into some issues. I know roobet, got some issue but they are so transparent and professional to attens those problems. Ive seen a lot in the scam section about they are not fair or allowed withdrawal but users here are reluctant to believe that.

New casinos may find it hard to build a reputation and gain enough attention.
Thats because of many competitors too. Even though your platform is good, but some users prefered the usual playing sites like fortunejack, then your chance as a new business will not be noticed. So roobet's gambling site is really doing great for their marketing approach. I see a lot of players and supporters even on social medias.



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July 11, 2020, 03:41:56 PM
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If you don't work carefully for your reputation then your company will end like a shit in this Community and even outside because gamblers are very particular on this.
This should be their priority in order not to run into some issues. I know roobet, got some issue but they are so transparent and professional to attens those problems. Ive seen a lot in the scam section about they are not fair or allowed withdrawal but users here are reluctant to believe that.

New casinos may find it hard to build a reputation and gain enough attention.
Thats because of many competitors too. Even though your platform is good, but some users prefered the usual playing sites like fortunejack, then your chance as a new business will not be noticed. So roobet's gambling site is really doing great for their marketing approach. I see a lot of players and supporters even on social medias.

The community must be unforgiving to new casinos because new ones are the usual that decides to scam. Roobet stands the test of time.
That is why its hard to built trust but ones established, they'd be gaining recommendations.

I was expecting some casinos listed in the thread that were previously not accepting Bitcoin but are now joining the crypto to start adopting BTC. I don't know if there are some of it that started promoting here in bitcointalk. Casinos come and go.  The ones that are established today could one day be gone like the luckygames. The newer casinos that we can see today are the blockchain base casinos like the Goosbet and Earnbet.

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July 12, 2020, 07:02:06 AM
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So far the only new online casinos I've stumble is Casineos and they have done the right thing launching a signature bounty campaign, let's admit it launching a signature bounty campaign is very important because we can tell that they want to make their presence felt and they want to create awareness, and people will have a recall on that.
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July 12, 2020, 10:30:30 AM
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So far the only new online casinos I've stumble is Casineos and they have done the right thing launching a signature bounty campaign, let's admit it launching a signature bounty campaign is very important because we can tell that they want to make their presence felt and they want to create awareness, and people will have a recall on that.

Signature campaigns are just one way for crypto casinos to advertise and attract people, good casinos usually have a good marketing on many places, not just here. And not all crypto casinos have or had signature campaign here. After so many years I still stumble upon some new good casino, and many times that new is not new at all, I just never heard about it.
Currently, wolf.bet is a new place where I hang out, with awesome expert auto set-ups I have a lot of fun. I don't think it's important is it a new casino or old trusted one, new casinos have good promotions and I like to try them from time to time.

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July 12, 2020, 11:08:30 AM
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So far the only new online casinos I've stumble is Casineos and they have done the right thing launching a signature bounty campaign, let's admit it launching a signature bounty campaign is very important because we can tell that they want to make their presence felt and they want to create awareness, and people will have a recall on that.

Signature campaigns are just one way for crypto casinos to advertise and attract people, good casinos usually have a good marketing on many places, not just here. And not all crypto casinos have or had signature campaign here. After so many years I still stumble upon some new good casino, and many times that new is not new at all, I just never heard about it.
Currently, wolf.bet is a new place where I hang out, with awesome expert auto set-ups I have a lot of fun. I don't think it's important is it a new casino or old trusted one, new casinos have good promotions and I like to try them from time to time.

But some really sees the market in this forum, so they run a signature campaign.

Imagine, this forum has over 2 million members, so it should be nice to at advertise here to get at least some percentage of the total members of the forum. Also, base on what I noticed, those casinos who have their signature campaign in the forum are successful as they can easily community to the community and gamblers could also share their experience and even ideas on how to improve the casinos, so it's really a good thing, win-win for both casinos and gamblers.

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July 12, 2020, 12:41:25 PM
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So far the only new online casinos I've stumble is Casineos and they have done the right thing launching a signature bounty campaign, let's admit it launching a signature bounty campaign is very important because we can tell that they want to make their presence felt and they want to create awareness, and people will have a recall on that.

Signature campaigns are just one way for crypto casinos to advertise and attract people, good casinos usually have a good marketing on many places, not just here. And not all crypto casinos have or had signature campaign here. After so many years I still stumble upon some new good casino, and many times that new is not new at all, I just never heard about it.
Currently, wolf.bet is a new place where I hang out, with awesome expert auto set-ups I have a lot of fun. I don't think it's important is it a new casino or old trusted one, new casinos have good promotions and I like to try them from time to time.

But some really sees the market in this forum, so they run a signature campaign.

Imagine, this forum has over 2 million members, so it should be nice to at advertise here to get at least some percentage of the total members of the forum. Also, base on what I noticed, those casinos who have their signature campaign in the forum are successful as they can easily community to the community and gamblers could also share their experience and even ideas on how to improve the casinos, so it's really a good thing, win-win for both casinos and gamblers.

Yeah it's good that's why there are so many companies keep coming here and introduce their site to the people who use this forum but they should not rely on doing a advertising ads on here since I see so many company fails even though they spend a big money by using the sig camp, But mostly the casino I see became successful is those who run a campaign as well do some good competition and other promotions so this thing need to consider by the owners so that this could be a win for them and for their gamblers if they earn a good result for their actions.

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You know, even if there was such a new casino that seemed reliable to me, from which I would withdraw money without problems, I would still not be able to recommend it, because this is a big responsibility, suddenly you will have a negative experience and I will feel guilty here.

It also sometimes looks like an advertisement or a place where you can write under the guise of an ordinary user about your 'success story' in a this casino imo  Roll Eyes
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You know, even if there was such a new casino that seemed reliable to me, from which I would withdraw money without problems, I would still not be able to recommend it, because this is a big responsibility, suddenly you will have a negative experience and I will feel guilty here.
You dont need to be afraid to recommend a new casino site to other if you believe that the casino has a valid license. Indeed, many people might doubt the new gambling site because visitor traffic is still minimal and user feedback is still not enough. There is nothing wrong when you doubt something, but I will say that gambling sites that have obtained permit or licenses are reliable even if they are not recommended.

Most people will recommend a famous site for new gamblers because of security, fairness and a large selection of games. Therefore, I think that new gambling sites must think of ways to increase visitor traffic on the site and so far the signature campaign is an option that really help them to become famous. Even well-known sites will do this as a way to get more visitor interest.

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July 12, 2020, 02:53:45 PM
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You know, even if there was such a new casino that seemed reliable to me, from which I would withdraw money without problems, I would still not be able to recommend it, because this is a big responsibility, suddenly you will have a negative experience and I will feel guilty here.
You dont need to be afraid to recommend a new casino site to other if you believe that the casino has a valid license. Indeed, many people might doubt the new gambling site because visitor traffic is still minimal and user feedback is still not enough. There is nothing wrong when you doubt something, but I will say that gambling sites that have obtained permit or licenses are reliable even if they are not recommended.

Most people will recommend a famous site for new gamblers because of security, fairness and a large selection of games. Therefore, I think that new gambling sites must think of ways to increase visitor traffic on the site and so far the signature campaign is an option that really help them to become famous. Even well-known sites will do this as a way to get more visitor interest.

You're right! Sometimes it even seems to me that such new sites value their reputation even more and will try to resolve all misunderstandings so that the visitor does not spoil the already small popularity.

Pay attention to the license, the appearance and usability of the site, and of course to the process of withdrawing funds.
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July 12, 2020, 08:46:19 PM
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You know, even if there was such a new casino that seemed reliable to me, from which I would withdraw money without problems, I would still not be able to recommend it, because this is a big responsibility, suddenly you will have a negative experience and I will feel guilty here.
You dont need to be afraid to recommend a new casino site to other if you believe that the casino has a valid license. Indeed, many people might doubt the new gambling site because visitor traffic is still minimal and user feedback is still not enough. There is nothing wrong when you doubt something, but I will say that gambling sites that have obtained permit or licenses are reliable even if they are not recommended.

Most people will recommend a famous site for new gamblers because of security, fairness and a large selection of games. Therefore, I think that new gambling sites must think of ways to increase visitor traffic on the site and so far the signature campaign is an option that really help them to become famous. Even well-known sites will do this as a way to get more visitor interest.

Not only signature campaign would be an option yet there were lots of things that can be done when it comes to marketing matters. When you are still new in the business then its

just normal to start up from scratch or on the very minimal  numbers which is normal, the rest would depend on how you do make exposure of your business but be sure that 

you have already done sort of things which are commonly being seek out by most which had already mentioned aboved.

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July 12, 2020, 09:31:50 PM
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New casino and being successful are contradicting each other in my opinion. I mean a casino must take time to serve for this community before this community to assume about its success or failure. So, there cannot be any new casino could be existing to mark as successful.

But what we can have is, new casinos with potential long term surviving capability. I mean we are having lots of criteria for a casino to be fund eligible to play with them; from this we can have list of casino to consider about playing in near future.

In my opinion, wolf.bet must be relatively new and got all the things to play with. Next is windice which is somehow more than one year old and finally mintdice but they are seeming taking more time to launch their version 2 but through campaign they have built good reputation.

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July 12, 2020, 10:03:49 PM
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New casino and being successful are contradicting each other in my opinion. I mean a casino must take time to serve for this community before this community to assume about its success or failure. So, there cannot be any new casino could be existing to mark as successful.

But what we can have is, new casinos with potential long term surviving capability. I mean we are having lots of criteria for a casino to be fund eligible to play with them; from this we can have list of casino to consider about playing in near future.

In my opinion, wolf.bet must be relatively new and got all the things to play with. Next is windice which is somehow more than one year old and finally mintdice but they are seeming taking more time to launch their version 2 but through campaign they have built good reputation.

Can we really measure the success of the casinos based on the years they live? I don't think that should be followed all the time we will evaluate the status of the casinos because there are quit new who are successful already, and some of them may not be in this forum.

Speaking of community, did you mean this forum alone?
if so, then I think we are wrong on that because they are advertising in different community, even in their own forum, in social medias, etc.

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July 14, 2020, 11:38:08 AM
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A long game and a long time spent on the gambling market is indicative on the one hand, on the other hand the appearance of new casinos stimulates old players to be in good shape and offer customers more services and bonuses.
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July 14, 2020, 01:32:00 PM
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The world of online gambling is indeed quite difficult for new casinos to survive, because many of its old casinos do promotions well,
making new casinos difficult to get users. From 2017 until now there have been so many new casinos that are closed or scams,maybe
many people who dare to take risks to keep trying to open new casinos with a large percentage of failures. Because see the prospect
of an online gambling business world is getting better, especially now that the pandemic situation that has not ended has made the
popularity of online gambling more increasing. Unfortunately only a few new casinos that have succeeded and have survived until now,
for example Roobet.
There is a stiff competition in the gambling world because there are a lot of companies that wants to be involved to this industry because they know that they can generate big profit here but of course they are also aware that the one who will survive are the gambling company that have high capital, good marketing management and have good security. I like to agree to you that Roobet is a good gambling site nowadays because they survived the competition and they are now making name.
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July 14, 2020, 01:45:49 PM
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New casino and being successful are contradicting each other in my opinion. I mean a casino must take time to serve for this community before this community to assume about its success or failure. So, there cannot be any new casino could be existing to mark as successful.

But what we can have is, new casinos with potential long term surviving capability. I mean we are having lots of criteria for a casino to be fund eligible to play with them; from this we can have list of casino to consider about playing in near future.

In my opinion, wolf.bet must be relatively new and got all the things to play with. Next is windice which is somehow more than one year old and finally mintdice but they are seeming taking more time to launch their version 2 but through campaign they have built good reputation.

To be successful in terms of having again many players and good reviews, is not applicable yet for new casinos. We were able to see plenty of signature from casinos even these old ones are getting bashed or negative review when they seem to be already good and stable,yet some players still see some flaws like in delays in payout and too high transaction fees.
To really be able to be successful they will need to be readily solved the problems that may came and will be able to still show good responses despite of some negative events.

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July 14, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
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The world of online gambling is indeed quite difficult for new casinos to survive, because many of its old casinos do promotions well,
making new casinos difficult to get users. From 2017 until now there have been so many new casinos that are closed or scams,maybe
many people who dare to take risks to keep trying to open new casinos with a large percentage of failures. Because see the prospect
of an online gambling business world is getting better, especially now that the pandemic situation that has not ended has made the
popularity of online gambling more increasing. Unfortunately only a few new casinos that have succeeded and have survived until now,
for example Roobet.
There is a stiff competition in the gambling world because there are a lot of companies that wants to be involved to this industry because they know that they can generate big profit here but of course they are also aware that the one who will survive are the gambling company that have high capital, good marketing management and have good security. I like to agree to you that Roobet is a good gambling site nowadays because they survived the competition and they are now making name.
Creating your own casino or online casino could give you a big profit in he future. But it is also a big task because you have a lot of competitors to deal with that there are a lot of online casinos you could choose from, and you need a good marketing strategy just to attract gamblers and players for them to be known and became popular as well. It is the reason why Roobet is now becoming popular because they do make a good marketing strategy to attract gamblers that they give good bonuses and to make their players to trust their site.

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July 14, 2020, 02:35:26 PM
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As in the OP we get to see large number of casinos come and go out of service in a short time period. Every casino that are legit and having good developers can be easily identified with its interface and the way it's been promoted. In most cases, casinos that have been promoted through our forum were relatively successful. The latest success project being the CASINEOS. Here the interface is simple, and for understanding PLAY tokens were provided. Once after getting satisfied about the platform, one can start using it.

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July 14, 2020, 02:42:52 PM
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As in the OP we get to see large number of casinos come and go out of service in a short time period. Every casino that are legit and having good developers can be easily identified with its interface and the way it's been promoted. In most cases, casinos that have been promoted through our forum were relatively successful. The latest success project being the CASINEOS. Here the interface is simple, and for understanding PLAY tokens were provided. Once after getting satisfied about the platform, one can start using it.
it can be concluded that the display of the casino website that is easy to understand and responsive will have a good impact on the popularity of this casino place and can provide the potential that more and more people will visit this casino place because it has a very light interface. so when you want to play casino games, make sure the criteria above are all entered.

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July 14, 2020, 03:58:11 PM
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To be honest, I saw a lot of new casinos with amazing sites and even licenses, but so far I have no confidence in them and only test their free games where possible.

To enter real money there I must be 200% sure that there will not be any problems. and this is difficult to understand because there are very few reviews on new casinos.

Not sure if there will not be any problems in the casino journey because we know that the website needs to maintain and manage, so there will be a little problem. But testing the casino with the bonus from them will be enough because we always need to manage our money, so we are not losing the money. I only search the reviews from this forum because the member can give an honest review of the casino, so I think you can try to search the gambling website that can make you comfortable.

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July 14, 2020, 05:00:56 PM
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To be honest, I saw a lot of new casinos with amazing sites and even licenses, but so far I have no confidence in them and only test their free games where possible.

To enter real money there I must be 200% sure that there will not be any problems. and this is difficult to understand because there are very few reviews on new casinos.
If you find a new casino as more amazing then existing ones and you had great experience with their free bets as well then if you afraid of not having many reviews about them then you can simply try their legitimacy with very minimal amount because every popular casinos are started from the scratch who knows you found another casino which is going to be popular in future.
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July 14, 2020, 07:42:43 PM
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To be honest, I saw a lot of new casinos with amazing sites and even licenses, but so far I have no confidence in them and only test their free games where possible.

This is the biggest problem for new casinos as they have to provide amazing offers to attract players but as soon as the promo expires players start to leave the casino and this is also a reason why there are not many trusted casinos as there are for fiat currencies.

To enter real money there I must be 200% sure that there will not be any problems. and this is difficult to understand because there are very few reviews on new casinos.
Exactly and the casinos should focus on how to earn the trust from the community which can be done by doing certain competitions/campaigns which make people believe that the casinos is serious and if they are giving away 1-2 BTC in giveaways then there is no reason for them to scam with my 0.02 bitcoins.

I cannot recall too many good casinos which have started recently and are successful so yeah it is hard for new casinos to make a name for themselves when such giant casinos already exists.

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July 14, 2020, 08:54:14 PM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

That is surely would be hard to do but I'm not saying that it is impossible to do. It is true that virtual casinos might take their time to be quite famous but as long as they make sure their platforms are up and running, they will surely get attention after some time. Those platforms just need to make sure that they make necessary developments to make their users invite others in a way that they could have fun and I guess that just depends on the users on how willing they are to place their money into new Virtual casinos.


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July 14, 2020, 09:05:08 PM
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To be honest, I saw a lot of new casinos with amazing sites and even licenses, but so far I have no confidence in them and only test their free games where possible.

To enter real money there I must be 200% sure that there will not be any problems. and this is difficult to understand because there are very few reviews on new casinos.
If you find a new casino as more amazing then existing ones and you had great experience with their free bets as well then if you afraid of not having many reviews about them then you can simply try their legitimacy with very minimal amount because every popular casinos are started from the scratch who knows you found another casino which is going to be popular in future.
That is correct but from a gambler's perspective why would you even want to risk any amount when other trusted casinos are there running smoothly and either the new casino has some unique games or it is operating at a lower house edge, which I mean how low one can go when the market standard is already 1% house edge.

Any latest casino that enters the market needs to understand that there should be something unique about them otherwise why would a gambler leave their regular casino and visit you? And we all know that the gambler base is pretty limited in crypto and it is being already captured by few big casinos so either you bring something new and disrupt the gambling industry or you operate at almost 0 house edge which lures players to think about playing at a new casino.
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July 14, 2020, 09:27:43 PM
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To be honest, I saw a lot of new casinos with amazing sites and even licenses, but so far I have no confidence in them and only test their free games where possible.

To enter real money there I must be 200% sure that there will not be any problems. and this is difficult to understand because there are very few reviews on new casinos.

The constant flow of new gambling projects is good in that you can farm bonuses  Wink New projects try to lure players and at the initial stages give bonuses much higher than bonuses from old players in the market. As far as I know, some gamblers are professionally engaged in bonus hunting and get some money from this.

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July 14, 2020, 10:53:34 PM
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To be honest, I saw a lot of new casinos with amazing sites and even licenses, but so far I have no confidence in them and only test their free games where possible.

To enter real money there I must be 200% sure that there will not be any problems. and this is difficult to understand because there are very few reviews on new casinos.

The constant flow of new gambling projects is good in that you can farm bonuses  Wink New projects try to lure players and at the initial stages give bonuses much higher than bonuses from old players in the market. As far as I know, some gamblers are professionally engaged in bonus hunting and get some money from this.
Im not really that much of bonus things since we do know that these do have corresponding requirement which is normal but there are indeed people who do really hunt up for these bonuses and
try their luck to be able to extract out some profits if they do able to do so. Its understandable that new kid in town will really be having much more in terms of bonus and promotions compared to
traditional or old ones since they do need to poke up interest into gamblers when they do saw that they had better promotions but well it would still vary on sites total appearance and service given.

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July 14, 2020, 11:39:12 PM
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In fact it is easy to create new gambling sites, we only need to have a large capital to make new casinos can be realized immediately.
So I'm not surprised that many people try to make new casinos, but they all forget not to think about how to survive and make a profit.
Therefore we should not be too enthusiastic when seeing the popularity of online casinos is increasing, must do good research in order
to compete in the gambling industry. Do not rush to make new casinos, because of planning being mature is the key to success. Unfortunately
I see new casinos that are popping up now, not doing well planning and the lack of promotion makes it rare for new casinos to succeed.

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July 14, 2020, 11:48:24 PM
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To be honest, I saw a lot of new casinos with amazing sites and even licenses, but so far I have no confidence in them and only test their free games where possible.

To enter real money there I must be 200% sure that there will not be any problems. and this is difficult to understand because there are very few reviews on new casinos.

In order for real reviews to start appearing at the casino, it is necessary that someone play there. In addition, more than a large number of positive reviews from people that you do not know do not guarantee anything. Sometimes scammers can create their own reviews from various fake accounts. It is better to check the integrity of the casino by making small deposits. Then the casino will not want to steal them from you.
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July 15, 2020, 03:31:10 AM
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In fact it is easy to create new gambling sites, we only need to have a large capital to make new casinos can be realized immediately.
So I'm not surprised that many people try to make new casinos, but they all forget not to think about how to survive and make a profit.
Therefore we should not be too enthusiastic when seeing the popularity of online casinos is increasing, must do good research in order
to compete in the gambling industry. Do not rush to make new casinos, because of planning being mature is the key to success. Unfortunately
I see new casinos that are popping up now, not doing well planning and the lack of promotion makes it rare for new casinos to succeed.


It will cost thousands or even millions in order to start a new online casino that will be patronize by many gamblers around the world. I'm sure that we heard that many new online casinos that are not surviving because they cannot get enough market share for them to survive in the competition. Gambling industry is one of the riskiest industry, but a knowledgeable and skillful person can manage it easily through the use of his/her mind. There are a lot of factors that should be consider especially for those who want to create new gambling sites.

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July 15, 2020, 04:00:58 AM
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There are successful and relatively new casinos but before that we need to analyze the market well If we research gambling sites then we can find a good site The advice of OPs is more effective when searching for good sites. But before that you need to have enough knowledge about gambling Success is not possible without capital Gambling is becoming more popular than ever before and the demand for online gambling has increased due to the virus.

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July 15, 2020, 12:42:06 PM
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The competition for the gambling industry is becoming tougher and tougher. More and more casinos are being built both traditional and especially now the online ones.

If you are like the other gambling casinos or sites out there then you will not be a successful one in the long run. Having a casino business is like other businesses too. If you are like the others then most probably they will not come to you especially if you are new.

Having a trademark of your own will help you. A feature that is not in most of the casinos out there may help you shine. Aside from that, research and having advice from experts will help too. IMO, there are some new who become successful ones but it took some time before you will see the result.

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July 15, 2020, 04:51:45 PM
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In fact it is easy to create new gambling sites, we only need to have a large capital to make new casinos can be realized immediately.
So I'm not surprised that many people try to make new casinos, but they all forget not to think about how to survive and make a profit.
Therefore we should not be too enthusiastic when seeing the popularity of online casinos is increasing, must do good research in order
to compete in the gambling industry. Do not rush to make new casinos, because of planning being mature is the key to success. Unfortunately
I see new casinos that are popping up now, not doing well planning and the lack of promotion makes it rare for new casinos to succeed.


It will cost thousands or even millions in order to start a new online casino that will be patronize by many gamblers around the world. I'm sure that we heard that many new online casinos that are not surviving because they cannot get enough market share for them to survive in the competition. Gambling industry is one of the riskiest industry, but a knowledgeable and skillful person can manage it easily through the use of his/her mind. There are a lot of factors that should be consider especially for those who want to create new gambling sites.

As a gambling site owner then you will surely need some sort of luck in the end of the day when you are tending to build up this kind of business because no matter how things being arranged according to your plan and all sorts of things that must have done then you cant still assure that it would succeed because it will all vary or depend on communities interest towards your site and if they do find out that it is worth for them to hang on then
thats a good sign because you do already get their attention and might able to get further more in future developments of your site.This had been the risk as a business owner which it does have the odds of 50-50
when it comes to success and failure.

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i don't trust all those new ones that are appearing
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July 15, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
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It will cost thousands or even millions in order to start a new online casino that will be patronize by many gamblers around the world. I'm sure that we heard that many new online casinos that are not surviving because they cannot get enough market share for them to survive in the competition. Gambling industry is one of the riskiest industry, but a knowledgeable and skillful person can manage it easily through the use of his/her mind. There are a lot of factors that should be consider especially for those who want to create new gambling sites.

When the new gambling site can not survive, that is because they don't manage their site like the other gambling websites. When the owner fails to maintain, it will be hard to continue the business because that will be related to the gambling site's reputations. As the owner, that person needs to learn how to manage the website from many sources so he can be able to give the best for his members.

Experienced play the big advantage, if the new site is lacking of new offers something that the old one already have it will be hard for them to survive, most of the new casinos duplicates what old ones provides to their customers, they are trying to imitate without doing any twist, making it looks like nothing to their target gamblers. There should always a need of being creative to entice gamblers and to established great relationship.

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July 15, 2020, 09:28:50 PM
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The constant flow of new gambling projects is good in that you can farm bonuses  Wink New projects try to lure players and at the initial stages give bonuses much higher than bonuses from old players in the market. As far as I know, some gamblers are professionally engaged in bonus hunting and get some money from this.
Im not really that much of bonus things since we do know that these do have corresponding requirement which is normal but there are indeed people who do really hunt up for these bonuses and
try their luck to be able to extract out some profits if they do able to do so. Its understandable that new kid in town will really be having much more in terms of bonus and promotions compared to
traditional or old ones since they do need to poke up interest into gamblers when they do saw that they had better promotions but well it would still vary on sites total appearance and service given.

Requirements for receiving a bonus are everywhere but in new projects they are much weaker. For example, in old betting companies I don’t see any reason to take a bonus when replenishing a deposit - the conditions are so tough that they almost exclude the possibility of withdrawing money until you make a zillion of bets  Grin In new enterprises, bonuses look adequate.

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July 15, 2020, 10:44:44 PM
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if the new site is lacking of new offers something that the old one already have it will be hard for them to survive,

That's how hard the competition now if there's a new site that will enter the scene.

Without an interesting stuff, totally unique and new, it might be hard for them to attract gamblers. They really need to spend lots of money in promotions just to ride the wave against the big ones.

That's why I'm amazed at those new gambling sites (maybe 1-2 year since they operate) that able to establish a good number of gamblers because of their effort in doing marketing and advertisement.

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July 15, 2020, 10:50:08 PM
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i don't trust all those new ones that are appearing
The test period is necessary before personally experiencing the features of the new gambling website with depositing real funds. Success is relative, maybe the new site will prefer the long term small success over short term big success. Air balloon gambling websites are here or there, but they disappear from the industry after making a single mistake. So, IMHO, the successful gambling platform should consider the industry standards before quickly making welcome party for having a ability to compete with established competitors.

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July 15, 2020, 10:58:05 PM
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i don't trust all those new ones that are appearing

That's your opinion, but if we will not give them a chance, the gambling industry particularly in the crypto market will not grow.
Whether we like it or not, there will be many that will try to compete but I think only few of them would really succeed, but at least they tried and we really need some good competition as it will give us better service.

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July 15, 2020, 11:12:02 PM
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if the new site is lacking of new offers something that the old one already have it will be hard for them to survive,

That's how hard the competition now if there's a new site that will enter the scene.

Without an interesting stuff, totally unique and new, it might be hard for them to attract gamblers. They really need to spend lots of money in promotions just to ride the wave against the big ones.

That's why I'm amazed at those new gambling sites (maybe 1-2 year since they operate) that able to establish a good number of gamblers because of their effort in doing marketing and advertisement.
If they do the right propaganda I think there is still potential for new casinos to survive and thrive on this industry. I know there are many gamblers who enjoy virtual gambling, but they don't play at crypto casinos yet. There are a lot of customers at fiat online gambling sites.
If new crypto casinos are able to bring these gamblers to their sites through marketing and nice giveaways, promotions, the whole gambling industry will benefit, as there are new people coming in and not just gamblers from other crypto casinos moving among these sites. So no crypto casinos have their income ruined and everyone wins (with the fiat casinos exception)!

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July 15, 2020, 11:36:34 PM
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i don't trust all those new ones that are appearing
The test period is necessary before personally experiencing the features of the new gambling website with depositing real funds. Success is relative, maybe the new site will prefer the long term small success over short term big success. Air balloon gambling websites are here or there, but they disappear from the industry after making a single mistake. So, IMHO, the successful gambling platform should consider the industry standards before quickly making welcome party for having a ability to compete with established competitors.

Testing new gambling sites with small amounts of money is a good idea. I have previously suggested something similar. However, another factor that speaks in favor of new online casinos is when one of the owners of already established casinos puts in a word for a new casino.
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It will cost thousands or even millions in order to start a new online casino that will be patronize by many gamblers around the world. I'm sure that we heard that many new online casinos that are not surviving because they cannot get enough market share for them to survive in the competition. Gambling industry is one of the riskiest industry, but a knowledgeable and skillful person can manage it easily through the use of his/her mind. There are a lot of factors that should be consider especially for those who want to create new gambling sites.

When the new gambling site can not survive, that is because they don't manage their site like the other gambling websites. When the owner fails to maintain, it will be hard to continue the business because that will be related to the gambling site's reputations. As the owner, that person needs to learn how to manage the website from many sources so he can be able to give the best for his members.

Experienced play the big advantage, if the new site is lacking of new offers something that the old one already have it will be hard for them to survive, most of the new casinos duplicates what old ones provides to their customers, they are trying to imitate without doing any twist, making it looks like nothing to their target gamblers. There should always a need of being creative to entice gamblers and to established great relationship.

Maybe with the old offers that already available on another gambling website can work for the new gambling website because sometimes, the gamblers want to feel new things on other websites. But it would better if they modify of what the other website to new offers, so that can attract the gamblers, whether it's a new gambler or old gambler, to come to their site. Creativity will be the important role to have many members, and they can invite more gamblers.

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There are many gambling sites so far and the number is always increasing due to the time pass. Well, it is likely the other indutsries, when there are big amount of the sites or industries, there will be competitors. the better will win and some may lose and probably will end soon. It also may happen in the cyrpto world of gambling. For the new casinos, what about the other sites that already survive?

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July 16, 2020, 09:37:37 PM
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It will cost thousands or even millions in order to start a new online casino that will be patronize by many gamblers around the world. I'm sure that we heard that many new online casinos that are not surviving because they cannot get enough market share for them to survive in the competition. Gambling industry is one of the riskiest industry, but a knowledgeable and skillful person can manage it easily through the use of his/her mind. There are a lot of factors that should be consider especially for those who want to create new gambling sites.

When the new gambling site can not survive, that is because they don't manage their site like the other gambling websites. When the owner fails to maintain, it will be hard to continue the business because that will be related to the gambling site's reputations. As the owner, that person needs to learn how to manage the website from many sources so he can be able to give the best for his members.

Experienced play the big advantage, if the new site is lacking of new offers something that the old one already have it will be hard for them to survive, most of the new casinos duplicates what old ones provides to their customers, they are trying to imitate without doing any twist, making it looks like nothing to their target gamblers. There should always a need of being creative to entice gamblers and to established great relationship.

Maybe with the old offers that already available on another gambling website can work for the new gambling website because sometimes, the gamblers want to feel new things on other websites. But it would better if they modify of what the other website to new offers, so that can attract the gamblers, whether it's a new gambler or old gambler, to come to their site. Creativity will be the important role to have many members, and they can invite more gamblers.
Its just  normal to think off that changes or updates should really be some sort of unique to make it more interesting not only on new gambler but also to those old that do patronized or been playing on the site for
too  long.

If they do able to do so then they would retain and increase up numbers this is why constant changes and updates is a must for a site and not just being stagnant for too long or doesnt have any something
new to offer into their gamblers.

Site or company that had still able to to exist up to these years had done their job pretty well.

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July 16, 2020, 09:55:34 PM
 #146

i don't trust all those new ones that are appearing

That's your opinion, but if we will not give them a chance, the gambling industry particularly in the crypto market will not grow.
Whether we like it or not, there will be many that will try to compete but I think only few of them would really succeed, but at least they tried and we really need some good competition as it will give us better service.

Sure. If new projects do not appear and there is no fierce competition among existing players in the market, we will undoubtedly see a deterioration in the conditions offered to players. Only competition helps to receive the most advantageous offers.

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July 17, 2020, 06:33:47 AM
 #147

There are many gambling sites so far and the number is always increasing due to the time pass. Well, it is likely the other indutsries, when there are big amount of the sites or industries, there will be competitors. the better will win and some may lose and probably will end soon. It also may happen in the cyrpto world of gambling. For the new casinos, what about the other sites that already survive?
The competition is so stiff where there are only few gambling websites that are surviving in a short period of time. I observed that most of the new casinos are just surviving months after it got launched, yes it is sad but I think it is normal because those strong online casinos are dominating the industry because they know what they are getting into where they have intelligent employees and they have good market shares in the gambling industry.
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July 17, 2020, 09:58:29 AM
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There are many gambling sites so far and the number is always increasing due to the time pass. Well, it is likely the other indutsries, when there are big amount of the sites or industries, there will be competitors. the better will win and some may lose and probably will end soon. It also may happen in the cyrpto world of gambling. For the new casinos, what about the other sites that already survive?
The competition is so stiff where there are only few gambling websites that are surviving in a short period of time. I observed that most of the new casinos are just surviving months after it got launched, yes it is sad but I think it is normal because those strong online casinos are dominating the industry because they know what they are getting into where they have intelligent employees and they have good market shares in the gambling industry.
Those casinos might not seriously managing their business or they don't have enough budget to compete.
Advertisement is very important and if a casino has good budget and competent team to manage, I don't think they will not succeed.

Crypto market and crypto casinos are improving especially under the pandemic times so it's a good opportunity for them to start.
I once read one post that crypto casinos are already a billion dollar/s business, so I think it's already big but there are still more room for improvement so the newcomers could possibly fill that if they will work hard enough to succeed.

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July 17, 2020, 10:39:05 AM
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Maybe with the old offers that already available on another gambling website can work for the new gambling website because sometimes, the gamblers want to feel new things on other websites. But it would better if they modify of what the other website to new offers, so that can attract the gamblers, whether it's a new gambler or old gambler, to come to their site. Creativity will be the important role to have many members, and they can invite more gamblers.
Its just  normal to think off that changes or updates should really be some sort of unique to make it more interesting not only on new gambler but also to those old that do patronized or been playing on the site for
too  long.

If they do able to do so then they would retain and increase up numbers this is why constant changes and updates is a must for a site and not just being stagnant for too long or doesnt have any something
new to offer into their gamblers.

Site or company that had still able to to exist up to these years had done their job pretty well.

That will be the way to survive in the business, in any business. The old casino will not afraid even if there is a new casino that can give more to the customer because they have another way to promote their website, so they can still invite many customers. The changes, the updates, and the promotion will be a weapon to gain more members because they believe that only gives satisfaction to the gambler that can get their heart to stay or to come to their website.

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July 21, 2020, 09:35:50 PM
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And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Possibly they can stand a chance to get along even with the old or those who have been established for a long period of time now as long as those newly sprout online casinos have something much better to offer for the new players because seriously speaking, many players engaging into online casino most specially at times like this is seeking more to spice up their gaming experience while staying at home. Also it doesn't just need to be exciting, still it does also need to be trusted for those newly established online casinos this 2020 for them to be able to get along with the old ones who have a strong reputation ever since it was established. But standing along with long established casinos would be a great competition and challenge because people would surely get into playing for those with well-known reputation. But still it could be possible to happen if they would be making something new to attract many players and assurance that they could be trusted as well.

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July 21, 2020, 11:05:56 PM
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BetHash is pretty new and still seems to be doing well, despite being based on the dying EOS blockchain.

Lucky.Games are also doing well as far as I've seen, since they managed to launch after getting some success from their BetKong platform.

I still hesitate to play at new casinos though, since I always feel like they're just waiting for the right moment to run away with the bankroll. At least established players in the space have been shown to not run away even when handling tens of millions in player funds.
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July 21, 2020, 11:21:05 PM
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BetHash is pretty new and still seems to be doing well, despite being based on the dying EOS blockchain.

Lucky.Games are also doing well as far as I've seen, since they managed to launch after getting some success from their BetKong platform.

I still hesitate to play at new casinos though, since I always feel like they're just waiting for the right moment to run away with the bankroll. At least established players in the space have been shown to not run away even when handling tens of millions in player funds.
indeed many cases are like that because when the developers already have a lot of money from gamblers who enter the bankroll they will try to stop the game and bring money from the bankroll so that the gambling industry today is very lucrative.

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July 21, 2020, 11:45:38 PM
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As in the OP we get to see large number of casinos come and go out of service in a short time period. Every casino that are legit and having good developers can be easily identified with its interface and the way it's been promoted. In most cases, casinos that have been promoted through our forum were relatively successful. The latest success project being the CASINEOS. Here the interface is simple, and for understanding PLAY tokens were provided. Once after getting satisfied about the platform, one can start using it.
Apart from promoting Casineos signature, sharing the positive feedback is appreciated. I have played many times on Casineos but there are downsides of this mentioned casino. Only 3 games are available, Fight the Emperor is the unique one. The withdrawal fees are around $4 now and I wait for the calm network in order to process my BTC withdrawal. Adding a new interface for Dice will be better, I am sure there are pro developers with ability to change the background of laggy games completely. Just my 2 cents.

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July 21, 2020, 11:54:06 PM
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indeed many cases are like that because when the developers already have a lot of money from gamblers who enter the bankroll they will try to stop the game and bring money from the bankroll so that the gambling industry today is very lucrative.
That's exit scam you are describing there.

The gambling industry has always been lucrative even before but not for every casino that starts and has its launching through the forum. Lucrative in a sense that once they become popular, gamblers will come to them and if the service is fairly good, they will stay on it which shall sustain the casino.

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July 22, 2020, 01:05:14 AM
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Luck.Games have good reviews so for sure that they have good services and of course rewards and welcome offers. When there is a new casinos out there, I do not play it quickly because I also hesitate sometimes and I wait for weeks and months for me to see the review of other gamblers. It is risky for me because there are some casinos that are relatively new that have problems when it comes to withdrawals.
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Luck.Games have good reviews so for sure that they have good services and of course rewards and welcome offers. When there is a new casinos out there, I do not play it quickly because I also hesitate sometimes and I wait for weeks and months for me to see the review of other gamblers. It is risky for me because there are some casinos that are relatively new that have problems when it comes to withdrawals.
While we are waiting for the review from the other gamblers, we can play at the casino, which we usually play on. But maybe we can read from here because the new casino will take attention from the gamblers who want to try their games and their services. I admitted that sometimes the new casino could have problems, but I think that is because they need to edit or add more features to make the sites better.

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Perhaps, another try.
A lot of casinos have been working out to be chosen among gamblers but somehow, most traders are yet confident those who've been existed quite long and that is why new casinos will be left behind with the competition. That is so much entertaining to see any gambling sites have positive feedback and that is how it attracts gambler but less fortunate to new sites that has been scrutinized at its launch and found it more questionable of its existence.

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July 22, 2020, 04:42:34 AM
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Perhaps, another try.
A lot of casinos have been working out to be chosen among gamblers but somehow, most traders are yet confident those who've been existed quite long and that is why new casinos will be left behind with the competition. That is so much entertaining to see any gambling sites have positive feedback and that is how it attracts gambler but less fortunate to new sites that has been scrutinized at its launch and found it more questionable of its existence.
yes if they want to be on top they need to work hard  having many  competition and contest and other form adevertisement ,it can helps to get   to know by other players. Because of too many new scam gambling sites  player is always careful of choosing where to play and of course they will always  choose  And prefer to use a well-known and proven gambling websites than a new comers.
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Perhaps, another try.
A lot of casinos have been working out to be chosen among gamblers but somehow, most traders are yet confident those who've been existed quite long and that is why new casinos will be left behind with the competition. That is so much entertaining to see any gambling sites have positive feedback and that is how it attracts gambler but less fortunate to new sites that has been scrutinized at its launch and found it more questionable of its existence.

The contest, promotions, giveaways etc are just ways of attracting the people to their gambling site. And if they like it they can continue to gamble on their site leaving their existing one. Out of many some of them will be good and will survive and grow as well. Ones who does not make changes as per the requirement or not really trusted will either be out or would not attract much people to their site.
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Luck.Games have good reviews so for sure that they have good services and of course rewards and welcome offers. When there is a new casinos out there, I do not play it quickly because I also hesitate sometimes and I wait for weeks and months for me to see the review of other gamblers. It is risky for me because there are some casinos that are relatively new that have problems when it comes to withdrawals.
Is the website "luck.games"?

I check the website and thought that there are too many players but this is what I've seen.

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Perhaps, another try.
A lot of casinos have been working out to be chosen among gamblers but somehow, most traders are yet confident those who've been existed quite long and that is why new casinos will be left behind with the competition. That is so much entertaining to see any gambling sites have positive feedback and that is how it attracts gambler but less fortunate to new sites that has been scrutinized at its launch and found it more questionable of its existence.

Those that will have a chance are those gambling sites with long term commitment to marketing their projects, have all noticed here after the initial introduction and campaign some gambling sites minimized their marketing efforts when they are competing with other large gambling sites, they should sustain it, most gamblers have marketing effort of the gambling site as one of their criteria.


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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.
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Interesting topic. I think it's because crypto casinos have not evolved. I've also been around for many years and basically nothing has changed except the UI. No new innovative gambling concepts, nor new interesting gaming concepts. Even the bonus concepts are old and boring. Everything exactly the same as already 2012, so why should new casinos have a large influx to keep themselves in the long term? Stake.com is an exception because an established crypto gambling company is behind it. I have been waiting for a really good decentralized casino where you don't have to worry about your funds disappearing overnight. That would be the next big thing.
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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.
well the point is to make the casino players to keep visiting and not feel bored, I think for events and strategies can be more important that they still make a deposit to the casino and still try to be the winner when gambling at the casino.
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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.
well the point is to make the casino players to keep visiting and not feel bored, I think for events and strategies can be more important that they still make a deposit to the casino and still try to be the winner when gambling at the casino.

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July 22, 2020, 10:23:56 PM
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All of sudden, I could recall stake as it is relatively a new casino and due to its background (sister concern of primedice) could be assessed as highly successful compared to most other crypto gambling houses. I'm not sure all dicing site are in consideration here because in my understanding they are not casino but offering one or few gambling types whereas a casino is known for bunch of gambling services.

That way, I can list wolf.bet and windice are new crypto gambling houses with decent success in recent past. There were few other new gambling houses tried campaign but not continuing which might mean they are not complete successful with their business model.
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July 27, 2020, 04:15:02 AM
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Luck.Games have good reviews so for sure that they have good services and of course rewards and welcome offers. When there is a new casinos out there, I do not play it quickly because I also hesitate sometimes and I wait for weeks and months for me to see the review of other gamblers. It is risky for me because there are some casinos that are relatively new that have problems when it comes to withdrawals.

The possibilities are these new casinos have just started their platform and there's still tons of bugs in their system. Also, if they don't have enough funds to conduct bug bounty and to basically afford developers to make the platform even better, we can really experience these gap between new casinos and established ones.

But that doesn't mean that most new casinos are like that, there are probably some new casinos that are hiring reputable developers or company, to make sure that they are already experienced and the platform will be ready to operate without much bugs.
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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.
well the point is to make the casino players to keep visiting and not feel bored, I think for events and strategies can be more important that they still make a deposit to the casino and still try to be the winner when gambling at the casino.

I am sure the casino can do that easily, and with the promotion that helps them get more and more players to keep visiting on their site, the casino will have the opportunity to make more money. That can make the gambler happy if they see that the casino offers bonuses if they deposit more money, and yes, the gamblers will use their time to play more rounds. The gamblers will have a high expectation to win the games because they use more money to try to win.
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.
well the point is to make the casino players to keep visiting and not feel bored, I think for events and strategies can be more important that they still make a deposit to the casino and still try to be the winner when gambling at the casino.

I am sure the casino can do that easily, and with the promotion that helps them get more and more players to keep visiting on their site, the casino will have the opportunity to make more money. That can make the gambler happy if they see that the casino offers bonuses if they deposit more money, and yes, the gamblers will use their time to play more rounds. The gamblers will have a high expectation to win the games because they use more money to try to win.

As we are talking about new sites, it will not be that easy to compete with other existing sites even if the new sites offer great promotions.
Any new sites will need some period of time to build trust first before they can survive and compete with other sites, there is no instant success in any business.
There are also many different types of gambler so it is not easy for any sites to make them all happy at the same time.
Even an old trusted site is still trying and struggling on how to keep their players stays, it means that it is harder for a new site but ofc it does not mean that new sites has no chance to survive.

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July 27, 2020, 08:58:51 PM
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All of sudden, I could recall stake as it is relatively a new casino and due to its background (sister concern of primedice) could be assessed as highly successful compared to most other crypto gambling houses. I'm not sure all dicing site are in consideration here because in my understanding they are not casino but offering one or few gambling types whereas a casino is known for bunch of gambling services.

That way, I can list wolf.bet and windice are new crypto gambling houses with decent success in recent past. There were few other new gambling houses tried campaign but not continuing which might mean they are not complete successful with their business model.
I don't think stake can be classified in the list of emerging casinos that are successful because like you mentioned they are from the same owners who created primedice which was the very first dicing game we had with bitcoins, I believe.

Stake mainly became so famous because they had the trust of primedice and the features of any modern casino also some lucrative VIP bonuses that keep their gambler loyal to them.

I would say goosebet is pretty popular looking at their stats on their website and they just launched like a month or so ago and I have seen so many new crypto based gambling houses and most of them are promising but not yet successful to mention them here. We must give them time to get established on crypto space along with this community.

When we do talk about Stake then it understandable on how they do make themselves too big in a short span of time and as mentioned they did really gain that popularity and reputation and trust

when they do know that the owner is the same on Primedice which had been trusted by many for a long time when this market is still young.Its understandable but for new ones which doesnt have any background

then getting reputation and trust wont really be that simple.It will really require much time and effort on their site to prove out things.

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July 28, 2020, 04:15:58 AM
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I am sure the casino can do that easily, and with the promotion that helps them get more and more players to keep visiting on their site, the casino will have the opportunity to make more money. That can make the gambler happy if they see that the casino offers bonuses if they deposit more money, and yes, the gamblers will use their time to play more rounds. The gamblers will have a high expectation to win the games because they use more money to try to win.

As we are talking about new sites, it will not be that easy to compete with other existing sites even if the new sites offer great promotions.
Any new sites will need some period of time to build trust first before they can survive and compete with other sites, there is no instant success in any business.
There are also many different types of gambler so it is not easy for any sites to make them all happy at the same time.
Even an old trusted site is still trying and struggling on how to keep their players stays, it means that it is harder for a new site but ofc it does not mean that new sites has no chance to survive.

There will always time for a new site to grow and compete with the old gambling sites. The new sites can offer something different from the existing gambling sites, so they can try to get many members. And if the site becomes bigger, the new sites can use the other promotions to get more members, which can make them able to compete with the old gambling sites.

Building trust will be necessary for the new site to convince people to be their members because only with that, people will join with them, and they will help the site become bigger. The gambler itself will see and select which gambling site that suits their needs, and they will check one by one of the new site if they have time to do. So in the gambling industry, we will see competition from each gambling site because they want to have many members.
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July 28, 2020, 04:44:02 AM
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All of sudden, I could recall stake as it is relatively a new casino and due to its background (sister concern of primedice) could be assessed as highly successful compared to most other crypto gambling houses. I'm not sure all dicing site are in consideration here because in my understanding they are not casino but offering one or few gambling types whereas a casino is known for bunch of gambling services.

That way, I can list wolf.bet and windice are new crypto gambling houses with decent success in recent past. There were few other new gambling houses tried campaign but not continuing which might mean they are not complete successful with their business model.
I don't think stake can be classified in the list of emerging casinos that are successful because like you mentioned they are from the same owners who created primedice which was the very first dicing game we had with bitcoins, I believe.

Stake mainly became so famous because they had the trust of primedice and the features of any modern casino also some lucrative VIP bonuses that keep their gambler loyal to them.

I would say goosebet is pretty popular looking at their stats on their website and they just launched like a month or so ago and I have seen so many new crypto based gambling houses and most of them are promising but not yet successful to mention them here. We must give them time to get established on crypto space along with this community.

When we do talk about Stake then it understandable on how they do make themselves too big in a short span of time and as mentioned they did really gain that popularity and reputation and trust
well popularity takes time mate,not because they are staking meaning they are trustworthy already remember those Scam sites offers big stakes but in the end?scamming people.
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when they do know that the owner is the same on Primedice which had been trusted by many for a long time when this market is still young.Its understandable but for new ones which doesnt have any background
Thats what i am thinking mate,because it is the reputation that proves their name for long time than those shilling with good profit but the intention is to take our money.
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then getting reputation and trust wont really be that simple.It will really require much time and effort on their site to prove out things.
exactly,why i stand against  above mate because  i know that time will decide  and their dedications.









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July 28, 2020, 05:36:31 AM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

I do think the new casinos are not much needed since at the end of the day they are competing against the whole body and the previous casinos are allowed to make adjustments in the site.

At the same time they can collaborate with the old casino sites and set up something new , maybe give them a justified revenue for coding your games on their site .

At the same time I have seen some good casinos that came in 2020 , but at the same time I do think it's too soon to say anything before its being used and therefore I believe we should wait a little before making any judgements.

At the same time there are casinos which were offline but now went online during the pandemic , they might be able to hold in their old customers .

People tend to prefer the old casinos because they are
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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.

Due to people gambling online this is the time for them to attract the new users on their site and this they are doing it by various promotions, giveaways etc. Also, we have seen so many new gambling site has being up and to compete with the old ones they will have to attract the users by giving them very good offers so that they gamble on their site.
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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.

Due to people gambling online this is the time for them to attract the new users on their site and this they are doing it by various promotions, giveaways etc. Also, we have seen so many new gambling site has being up and to compete with the old ones they will have to attract the users by giving them very good offers so that they gamble on their site.

People are wise,they will only accumulate those freebies and  promos  but will not trust new gambling sites.

and besides  why need to play with new ones when there are tons of Legit and proven safe here?

i dont need to mention every site,Just  click our  SIgnatures and  you'll find how legit Gambling sites  here.

But luring players is a good intention though i personally don't make it serious about the promotion,instead  i will look  through this  site first  about  legitimacy.

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What I have observed these days the new casino offers great promotions and bonuses that attract the users. They have daily giveaways lurking on their social media page and of course, those newbies catch the opportunity to earn at least a penny. So if new casinos have a good strategy it will make it work for long.

Due to people gambling online this is the time for them to attract the new users on their site and this they are doing it by various promotions, giveaways etc. Also, we have seen so many new gambling site has being up and to compete with the old ones they will have to attract the users by giving them very good offers so that they gamble on their site.

People are wise,they will only accumulate those freebies and  promos  but will not trust new gambling sites.

and besides  why need to play with new ones when there are tons of Legit and proven safe here?

i dont need to mention every site,Just  click our  SIgnatures and  you'll find how legit Gambling sites  here.

But luring players is a good intention though i personally don't make it serious about the promotion,instead  i will look  through this  site first  about  legitimacy.

your signatures ? yours is legit but if your talking about others signature no not all are carrying a legit gambling site under thier sigs  . we shouldnt use sigs or sig campaigns as basis .  

and yeah why play new when there are old gamblings sites  , lately ive been seeing sites adds a new games on thier lists.  thats thier counter to those new gambling sites that are offering new games  . they prevent thier loyal costumer to get bore and jump on other casinos  .
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

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July 28, 2020, 12:44:34 PM
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I must agree. Perhaps new casinos has been constantly opening with the hope to achieve and keep up with established casinos. They use promotions which old casinos do not have to attract gamblers. However, the survival and prosperity of these new casinos would only depend if they provide satisfactory and honest services to there gamers. I think that some use its opening to just have a passive outcome or a form of scam then will be closing after some time.
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I do think the new casinos are not much needed since at the end of the day they are competing against the whole body and the previous casinos are allowed to make adjustments in the site.

At the same time they can collaborate with the old casino sites and set up something new , maybe give them a justified revenue for coding your games on their site .

At the same time I have seen some good casinos that came in 2020 , but at the same time I do think it's too soon to say anything before its being used and therefore I believe we should wait a little before making any judgements.

At the same time there are casinos which were offline but now went online during the pandemic , they might be able to hold in their old customers .

People tend to prefer the old casinos because they are
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it will also help to improved all those old casino gambling  website that we already  have if they know they have strong competitors in terms of having many players.

And those new can give new ideas in gambling market that's can also help in the future online gamblings it's a competition and those who have good and easy to play gambling sites will win the players loyalty.
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July 28, 2020, 03:23:29 PM
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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.

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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.
Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.

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July 28, 2020, 03:53:16 PM
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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.
Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.
If casino won't have luck then they go bankrupt due to paying huge rewards to the layers but its highly unlikely to happen based on the calculation.So new casinos should concentrate more on building their reputation more than making profits, if they have some bad reviews in their growing stage then it could end their career permanently.
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July 28, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
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And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

I think new casinos can do stand a chance against old established casino because mostly specially at this time of pandemic, many gamblers do tend to stay at home and generally newly sprout online casino are attracting potential clients with good promotions that seems to be incomparable on the promotions that the old casinos can offer. It is a matter of promotion that the newly established casinos can stand a chance against the old ones most specially if the gambler is just new to this industry for sure he would easily get attracted on such offers by the new casinos and on that part, there could be a possibility that new casinos can still stand against the old ones.


But the main edge the old casinos have is their established reputations and popularity on which many people are also seeking for their online casino experience. Reputation is the most important weapon that an old casino is taking care of because with the modern times, many casinos are established tend to scam many people those were mostly new casinos so people will probably seek for an old casino with good reputation to keep his money safe since it has already been proven for years of being established.

But if ever new casinos can do the same thing of gaining the trust of the people despite of the fact that they were just newly established, then I guess, there could be a possibility new casinos can stand with the old casinos. They just have to prove themselves first to be trusted.
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July 28, 2020, 04:39:25 PM
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People tend to prefer the old casinos because they are
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Especially those having continuous promotion like Bitvest and 777Coin people herein this forum are fully aware of old online gambling casinos even if they are not gambling, because they always see their banner and logo on members's signature everywhere they posts, other gambling casinos should follow's Bitvest and other old casinos with promotion.

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People tend to prefer the old casinos because they are
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Especially those having continuous promotion like Bitvest and 777Coin people herein this forum are fully aware of old online gambling casinos even if they are not gambling, because they always see their banner and logo on members's signature everywhere they posts, other gambling casinos should follow's Bitvest and other old casinos with promotion.

These 2 sites have been here for years doing their promotion through signature campaigns. Also, 777coin does a daily give away of 0.00001000 BTC in the games and rounds section, if posted in a following format. But we have many other gambling sites now due to people coming on the online platform in this work from home time. Some of them would have captured a certain % of market as well.

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These 2 sites have been here for years doing their promotion through signature campaigns. Also, 777coin does a daily give away of 0.00001000 BTC in the games and rounds section, if posted in a following format. But we have many other gambling sites now due to people coming on the online platform in this work from home time. Some of them would have captured a certain % of market as well.
Bitvest and 777coin are old gambling sites. I am sure to use more and more after they continue to run signature campaigns without pauses and now they keep rolling, but in terms of appearance I am less attractive, what I am comfortable with in gambling sites is Fortunejack with a good interface and they continue to upgrade every time and even their promotions are quite good too in the last few weeks.
I love Fortunejack

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July 28, 2020, 06:50:17 PM
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These 2 sites have been here for years doing their promotion through signature campaigns. Also, 777coin does a daily give away of 0.00001000 BTC in the games and rounds section, if posted in a following format. But we have many other gambling sites now due to people coming on the online platform in this work from home time. Some of them would have captured a certain % of market as well.
Bitvest and 777coin are old gambling sites. I am sure to use more and more after they continue to run signature campaigns without pauses and now they keep rolling, but in terms of appearance I am less attractive, what I am comfortable with in gambling sites is Fortunejack with a good interface and they continue to upgrade every time and even their promotions are quite good too in the last few weeks.
I love Fortunejack
People can choose any gambling sites to play if they are comfortable with, I tried most gambling sites and each are unique on its own way.Fortune Jakc offered free lucky spin in the past but not sure they exists for now and bitvest and 777 offers lot of contest for promotional purposes.









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July 28, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
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These 2 sites have been here for years doing their promotion through signature campaigns. Also, 777coin does a daily give away of 0.00001000 BTC in the games and rounds section, if posted in a following format. But we have many other gambling sites now due to people coming on the online platform in this work from home time. Some of them would have captured a certain % of market as well.
Bitvest and 777coin are old gambling sites. I am sure to use more and more after they continue to run signature campaigns without pauses and now they keep rolling, but in terms of appearance I am less attractive, what I am comfortable with in gambling sites is Fortunejack with a good interface and they continue to upgrade every time and even their promotions are quite good too in the last few weeks.
I love Fortunejack

Having long time signature campaign doesnt indicate that they are much more better to those who do launch less.All things would vary in terms of marketing yet we know that signature campaigns

are just one of the ways on making out exposure and the rest would really be on promotional stuff like bonuses and contest which would make more some noise.

Also, when it comes to progress then its much more good to see on a site that do continuously trying out their best on giving something new and interesting after all these years

but im not saying that bitvest and 777 arent good because if they do able to last this long then that indicates that they are pretty doing well.

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July 29, 2020, 05:22:00 AM
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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.
Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.
A lot of casinos appearing these days and when I am on twitter social media page they were able of having a giveaway to boost their name and could attract more users to sign up on their site. Granted they offer services before they enter into this industry still they need a marketing strategy and plans to make their sites strong and gains trust from the users and also to be competitive with other gambling sites.
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July 29, 2020, 07:22:20 AM
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

The number of online casinos that are appearing is accelarating from time to time. The competition between old & reputable casinos and new casinos.
New casinos can probably survive the competition if they will spent a lot of money to promote their casino. And ofcourse, with fair and good deals that the gamblers are looking for.
Through that promotion they will have a higher chance to gain trusts and eventually survive from competitions.

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July 29, 2020, 07:36:43 AM
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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.
Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.

When you decide to open up a new casino two should be your utmost priorities.I think the first one is implementing rigid security to your wallets and your website.The second which for me personally is the top priority is to find new players to play at your casino and this can only be done by having a really strong marketing department,hiring people from the same industry to do your marketing is recommended.All the casinos that fail don’t have good implementation of these two priorities when opening up a casino.I completely agree with you.

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July 29, 2020, 10:07:48 AM
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Roobet not new at all.

Before Crypto Casino, Roobet is a CSGO Gambling Casino.

I didn't know that they focused on CSGO customers before..

I did a search here, it looks like they had the same games (dice, crash, etc) and just implemented the slots.. From your post, I thought they were focused on esports betting which is a big industry..

Well, it seems that their decision to only accept crypto was the right choice, they are growing fast.

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July 29, 2020, 09:40:39 PM
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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.
Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.
If casino won't have luck then they go bankrupt due to paying huge rewards to the layers but its highly unlikely to happen based on the calculation.So new casinos should concentrate more on building their reputation more than making profits, if they have some bad reviews in their growing stage then it could end their career permanently.
It's not about paying high rewards but it's them that lacks of profit which is needed for them to keep going.

A business that has no customers is likely to go out of business as soon as possible, they are running an online business and an actual business so they pay not actually for high rewards but for the cost and maintenance upon building it.

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July 29, 2020, 11:59:21 PM
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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.
Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.
If casino won't have luck then they go bankrupt due to paying huge rewards to the layers but its highly unlikely to happen based on the calculation.So new casinos should concentrate more on building their reputation more than making profits, if they have some bad reviews in their growing stage then it could end their career permanently.
It's not about paying high rewards but it's them that lacks of profit which is needed for them to keep going.

A business that has no customers is likely to go out of business as soon as possible, they are running an online business and an actual business so they pay not actually for high rewards but for the cost and maintenance upon building it.


When we do talk about business then its just normal to have those expenses when it comes from maintenance down to staffs and others.If you do ran off without making much that of profits then its normal
that you would really be negative which would result into non-feasible or sustainable thing to continue further.So its wise to completely stuff rather than tending to run the business in deep debts.
Success will vary on each one because as a business owner, nothing is assured when it comes on succeeding.

In op's example then its really understandable that the previous site will really compensate out the new ones credibility but to think that building up trust into that first site
does really take long time and wont really be that easy.

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July 30, 2020, 12:42:29 PM
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New casinos that are getting into the gambling networks weren't completely new. They've been into several other business domain and now making footsteps into gambling. Most new casinos were good, and they're open (transparent) with the gamblers. This means even a gambler with very small bet value can have a conversation with the gambling site owner. This way on each and everything the team tries to gain the trust of people which is important to be successful.
Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.

That is why things that need to be considered every new casino must follow in the footsteps of casinos that have been around for a long time and can last until now. Marketing must continue to be improved so that the popularity of the site can be better known to new people who want to try casino related site services. In addition, the level of security, convenience, fair site will certainly be a major factor for new users who will use casino related. Casino sites will not be abandoned by users if the team is always trying to improve its services
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July 30, 2020, 10:33:27 PM
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It's not about paying high rewards but it's them that lacks of profit which is needed for them to keep going.

A business that has no customers is likely to go out of business as soon as possible, they are running an online business and an actual business so they pay not actually for high rewards but for the cost and maintenance upon building it.


When we do talk about business then its just normal to have those expenses when it comes from maintenance down to staffs and others.If you do ran off without making much that of profits then its normal
that you would really be negative which would result into non-feasible or sustainable thing to continue further.So its wise to completely stuff rather than tending to run the business in deep debts.
Success will vary on each one because as a business owner, nothing is assured when it comes on succeeding.

In op's example then its really understandable that the previous site will really compensate out the new ones credibility but to think that building up trust into that first site
does really take long time and wont really be that easy.
Yes, it's the basic sequence and process of a business and the same goes for those starting casinos. If there's nothing really they can get as they are zero customers, there is nothing they can do but to close or else change their marketing style.

Let us also count those new casinos that weren't that good.

There is still balance for both casinos, the new and the old ones. Relatively, there are more that's failing and going out of business and don't even go to near to their popularity because they have a lot of failures like in marketing, budgeting and security of their casino.

That is why things that need to be considered every new casino must follow in the footsteps of casinos that have been around for a long time and can last until now. Marketing must continue to be improved so that the popularity of the site can be better known to new people who want to try casino related site services. In addition, the level of security, convenience, fair site will certainly be a major factor for new users who will use casino related. Casino sites will not be abandoned by users if the team is always trying to improve its services
Marketing is important but the service should be at its finest. Trust, reputation and loyalty of the customers are hard to make and these are not an easy thing to get from the starting casinos.

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July 31, 2020, 01:53:35 PM
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I am sure the casino can do that easily, and with the promotion that helps them get more and more players to keep visiting on their site, the casino will have the opportunity to make more money. That can make the gambler happy if they see that the casino offers bonuses if they deposit more money, and yes, the gamblers will use their time to play more rounds. The gamblers will have a high expectation to win the games because they use more money to try to win.
But the biggest problem casinos face is that the players who come to them for the interest of bonus are not going to be staying for long unless the casinos provides some unique games, below average house edge or they have some kind of promotion that works lifetime for example rake-back was a feature a lot of casinos used initially to retain their players but now even that doesn't attract players.

There are so many threads in the gambling section about various casinos but you can clearly separate apples from oranges and that's because they are just way ahead of the new casinos. Recently I heard betbit scammed so players hesitate to bet on a new casino too.
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I am sure the casino can do that easily, and with the promotion that helps them get more and more players to keep visiting on their site, the casino will have the opportunity to make more money. That can make the gambler happy if they see that the casino offers bonuses if they deposit more money, and yes, the gamblers will use their time to play more rounds. The gamblers will have a high expectation to win the games because they use more money to try to win.
But the biggest problem casinos face is that the players who come to them for the interest of bonus are not going to be staying for long unless the casinos provides some unique games, below average house edge or they have some kind of promotion that works lifetime for example rake-back was a feature a lot of casinos used initially to retain their players but now even that doesn't attract players.

There are so many threads in the gambling section about various casinos but you can clearly separate apples from oranges and that's because they are just way ahead of the new casinos. Recently I heard betbit scammed so players hesitate to bet on a new casino too.
The only thing that will make the gamblers stay at a casino is the benefits so they will stay for longer. That's how popular casino is doing, they are constantly giving the users or gamblers a lot of benefits, that's why they're choosing to stay there. But it's kinda difficult because it's a hard competition, there are many casinos too that can also give those kinds of benefits.

So obviously, the peoples desire is the casino's priority so they can accumulate a lot of users to their platform.
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I am sure the casino can do that easily, and with the promotion that helps them get more and more players to keep visiting on their site, the casino will have the opportunity to make more money. That can make the gambler happy if they see that the casino offers bonuses if they deposit more money, and yes, the gamblers will use their time to play more rounds. The gamblers will have a high expectation to win the games because they use more money to try to win.
But the biggest problem casinos face is that the players who come to them for the interest of bonus are not going to be staying for long unless the casinos provides some unique games, below average house edge or they have some kind of promotion that works lifetime for example rake-back was a feature a lot of casinos used initially to retain their players but now even that doesn't attract players.

There are so many threads in the gambling section about various casinos but you can clearly separate apples from oranges and that's because they are just way ahead of the new casinos. Recently I heard betbit scammed so players hesitate to bet on a new casino too.
The only thing that will make the gamblers stay at a casino is the benefits so they will stay for longer. That's how popular casino is doing, they are constantly giving the users or gamblers a lot of benefits, that's why they're choosing to stay there. But it's kinda difficult because it's a hard competition, there are many casinos too that can also give those kinds of benefits.

So obviously, the peoples desire is the casino's priority so they can accumulate a lot of users to their platform.
Sometimes luck factor also can decide whether the person will stay on this casino or move to a new one, when someone keep losing all their bets then there is high chance of they will move to another one to test their luck their.But as you said there is huge competition in the gambling business so every casino is trying to give best out of them to lure players into their site.

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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
This is an interesting question, I do not have recollection of any new successful casino, most of those that we know have been here for a long time and they have the trust of the community, most likely people keep creating casinos because on the surface it may seem as if it is easy, but they do not realize that it is incredibly difficult especially when taking into account the security aspect, as it is very easy for hackers to find flaws in your code and rig the games or steal the coins of the other players.
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The only thing that will make the gamblers stay at a casino is the benefits so they will stay for longer. That's how popular casino is doing, they are constantly giving the users or gamblers a lot of benefits, that's why they're choosing to stay there. But it's kinda difficult because it's a hard competition, there are many casinos too that can also give those kinds of benefits.
[/quote] They are getting benefits the more they stay in the casino, this is what I noticed with the casino these days, they are taking care of their clients high or low rollers, each has a benefit side from the casino unline before, and I guess they start doing this because of the competition that we have between houses. Indeed, competition these days are high because of the number of casino, people will look for the most beneficial and convenient one. I would not be surprise if there's a casino that will give free money just for registration to test out their platform.

So obviously, the peoples desire is the casino's priority so they can accumulate a lot of users to their platform.
Add the integrity of the system, if they can manage to hold a huge number of players at the same time without having a system error or any error at the user-end, then they are bagging a lot of client. Good service = happy customers.
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The only thing that will make the gamblers stay at a casino is the benefits so they will stay for longer. That's how popular casino is doing, they are constantly giving the users or gamblers a lot of benefits, that's why they're choosing to stay there. But it's kinda difficult because it's a hard competition, there are many casinos too that can also give those kinds of benefits.

So obviously, the peoples desire is the casino's priority so they can accumulate a lot of users to their platform.

Now all casinos have various bonus programs and the ability to play several games for free. Therefore, no one is surprised by this. The fight for players ' wallets is serious. Now I think that the casino that not only gives good bonuses, but also the one with the most variety of games, as well as a convenient and pleasant user interface, will win.
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Add the integrity of the system, if they can manage to hold a huge number of players at the same time without having a system error or any error at the user-end, then they are bagging a lot of client. Good service = happy customers.
This will make them reliable.

Not all the new casinos can handle batches of customers coming to their platform. And not all of them as well are good in handling customer service because it's very important to make your customers feel happy as you address any complains from them.

This is next to the security.

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Add the integrity of the system, if they can manage to hold a huge number of players at the same time without having a system error or any error at the user-end, then they are bagging a lot of client. Good service = happy customers.

i think this is hard to achieve . i play on a popular casino with a huge base of players and i often experience a crash on thier page and causes my games to lag  .

 what i do is disable other functions like chatbox when playing , its been a long time since i report the issue but problem still persist . a site also needs to prepare alot of balance if more players will play and what if most of the players win ?
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?
This is an interesting question, I do not have recollection of any new successful casino, most of those that we know have been here for a long time and they have the trust of the community, most likely people keep creating casinos because on the surface it may seem as if it is easy, but they do not realize that it is incredibly difficult especially when taking into account the security aspect, as it is very easy for hackers to find flaws in your code and rig the games or steal the coins of the other players.
In addition, they will continue to try to make new ones because if they are successful, of course that is a very good profit, because in business there are definitely profits and losses, at least it all depends on how they build their trust. Indeed, it is difficult to succeed in a short period of time but if the new casinos are able to survive and can keep up with the existing competition, of course it is all about good management and a great and planned promotion structure then I am sure over time they will also be able to survive and continue to grow.
And that is yet another reason why we do not see many new casinos becoming successful, it is very difficult for a casino to become successful right away, they will have to bid their time, the problem is that this costs money and as we know creating a casino is a very capital intensive business, not only you need to develop your own games, have good support and have a fast server you need a significant amount of capital to promote the casino, give offers to the gamblers so they can choose to stay and play for longer and you need the capital necessary to avoid being bankrupted by a whale, and when you add all of that I doubt that even 10% of the new casinos have the necessary capital to succeed.
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August 22, 2020, 01:04:49 PM
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And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

It could be possible that new casinos that are just recently established this 2020 specifically those that have just sprout out at the time of pandemic all due because of the trend incoming since physical casino establishments are temporarily closed to prevent the further spread of virus and the only way possible to continue playing gambling games is through online casinos, can still be reliable and be competent enough to get along even with the old established casinos with high reputation if those new casinos have something new on their pockets that can persuade and attract gamblers to get engage into them.

But that was just a possibility because surely old time gamblers will choose to play on proven trusted and with high reputation online gambling sites that are already established for too long. But if the market would be the new gamblers or millennial gamblers, new casinos could stand a chance if they will promote their casino sites too good with awesome and promising bonus to attract new gamblers. But still that was not just a thing to be considered for gamblers nowadays are getting wise to trust only the proven one. Even if such a case, still there is a chance that new casinos can stand along with old casinos if they will prove their authenticity.
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August 22, 2020, 01:30:24 PM
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And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Solid marketing, great interface, and top-notch are the three things that will put them in the radar of online gamblers, online gamblers are on a look for a new gambling site to play not that they are leaving their old one it's just they want to explore the curiosity because they know new gamblers site will launch opening giveaway and new account bonus if they see these three they will attracted to extend their playing hours.


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And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

Solid marketing, great interface, and top-notch are the three things that will put them in the radar of online gamblers, online gamblers are on a look for a new gambling site to play not that they are leaving their old one it's just they want to explore the curiosity because they know new gamblers site will launch opening giveaway and new account bonus if they see these three they will attracted to extend their playing hours.
That is what I am looking as well, but I always look to the security of the website, it is my fund that is at risk, and also to the algorithm of the gambling site, it is important to me, I will make sure that there is no cheat in playing that, they are transparent, and if I will be having a problem, their support will reply to me in an instant, so usually I do some crowdsourcing before I choose some casinos.

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you'd have a high possibility if you run a campaign in the forum and buy a forum ad auctioned by Theymos. this will turn the spotlight on your casino and will make users try out. yes, you will spend on marketing a new casino, that's just the way to go.

they do further in order for the business to survive the competition but once you get there like the trusted casino, they could already roll the money they earn while also spending for the marketing. there is no stopping to remain on top.









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March 19, 2021, 05:03:33 AM
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Sometimes luck factor also can decide whether the person will stay on this casino or move to a new one, when someone keep losing all their bets then there is high chance of they will move to another one to test their luck their.But as you said there is huge competition in the gambling business so every casino is trying to give best out of them to lure players into their site.

If a person is lucky, he would be able to win in any casino. I don't think that luck changes with casino switching. I mostly switch casino if i found a better interface in other casino or if there is any promotion going on. However, keep in mind, that we should only switch between trusted casinos which have good feedback. Playing in a brand new casino with no feedback is a risk in itself.
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you'd have a high possibility if you run a campaign in the forum and buy a forum ad auctioned by Theymos. this will turn the spotlight on your casino and will make users try out. yes, you will spend on marketing a new casino, that's just the way to go.

they do further in order for the business to survive the competition but once you get there like the trusted casino, they could already roll the money they earn while also spending for the marketing. there is no stopping to remain on top.
Not to mention that their team is going to help users of this forum get some extra cash for the job for promoting their website through signature campaign and with that you can consider yourself a contributor on this platform that is hopefully grows steadily. Trust is another thing you have to prove which is completes the part of becoming an established casino in the forum.
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you'd have a high possibility if you run a campaign in the forum and buy a forum ad auctioned by Theymos. this will turn the spotlight on your casino and will make users try out. yes, you will spend on marketing a new casino, that's just the way to go.

they do further in order for the business to survive the competition but once you get there like the trusted casino, they could already roll the money they earn while also spending for the marketing. there is no stopping to remain on top.
Not to mention that their team is going to help users of this forum get some extra cash for the job for promoting their website through signature campaign and with that you can consider yourself a contributor on this platform that is hopefully grows steadily. Trust is another thing you have to prove which is completes the part of becoming an established casino in the forum.

Trust is earn and they can have that overtime, they continue doing what they usually do (of course not scamming) and they'll grow. The forum is big, if some posters or members here will help promote a site, they'll become popular especially if those who promote are members with trust and good reputation in the forum. However, if they scam, it's also easy to expose their activities and project will fail.

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March 19, 2021, 10:43:45 PM
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you'd have a high possibility if you run a campaign in the forum and buy a forum ad auctioned by Theymos. this will turn the spotlight on your casino and will make users try out. yes, you will spend on marketing a new casino, that's just the way to go.

they do further in order for the business to survive the competition but once you get there like the trusted casino, they could already roll the money they earn while also spending for the marketing. there is no stopping to remain on top.
Not to mention that their team is going to help users of this forum get some extra cash for the job for promoting their website through signature campaign and with that you can consider yourself a contributor on this platform that is hopefully grows steadily. Trust is another thing you have to prove which is completes the part of becoming an established casino in the forum.

Trust is earn and they can have that overtime, they continue doing what they usually do (of course not scamming) and they'll grow. The forum is big, if some posters or members here will help promote a site, they'll become popular especially if those who promote are members with trust and good reputation in the forum. However, if they scam, it's also easy to expose their activities and project will fail.
Advertising doesn't really guaranteed out success because it all matters with the site design and overall experience will really be the main points on why they do succeed.

Awareness or exposure is just one but lacking with those other important factors then it is still bound to fail or get some recognition on the entire market.

All of those popular sites atm do came or start on being new until they do gain up reputation and popularity which isn't something that they can really gain with simple efforts
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