Can we still enjoy the anonymity in gambling in the long run?

[mirakal]

The Truth Behind Crypto and Online Gambling

Online gambling is, therefore, part of this bandwagon because internet proliferation has enabled cryptocurrencies to emerge as convenient payment avenues in this sector as hundreds of betting sites offer this option.

1-Eliminating payment headache
2- Anonymity is guaranteed
3-Minimal operation costs

I am very much concern with the bolded wordss so I like to ask your opinion on it.
We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

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[jademaxsuy]

There are set rules and regulations already regarding on bitcoin deposits to every platform may it be from gambling, crypto exchanges or even wallets. These regulations had been set for KYC to avoid abuses and easy to trace whenever there will be inquiries for a possible investigation especially on illegal acrivities.

In this connection some of the gambling platform especially if it is establish require users to do the KYC. In this matter your identity has been compromise already knowing that it is being held by the organization.

However, playing a game would let the user to be remain anonymous and probably this is what they had been thinking of from the start.

[Casdinyard]

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We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

I think there is less chance to make online casinos and gambling be regulated, yet it depends on the platform and the currency to be used whether they would be centralized or decentralized. And as the anonymous gambling (or the common gambling casinos online) we enjoy today are decentralized (often use dec system and cryptos as well), I think making a centralized one would have less clients/customers, in which, we all know were a big risk to take. I still don't see the possibility of a regulated online casino, it has too many cons and risks.

[20kevin20]

1. You buy BTC
2. You buy something off the Internet with some of it
3. You gamble the rest without mixing your coins, using your real IP or name

Your anonymity is already gone. Gone after the fingerprints you left in the immutable ledger. Full anonymity would probably only happen if a coin such as XMR ever gets to have gambling DApps to combine the privacy features of the coin with blockchain-based bets. Otherwise, the "full anonymity" mostly falsely remains in your head.

The article even gets crypto payments the wrong way around:

Crypto wallets are confidential, as details are only known by the owners. This is another aspect that makes cryptocurrencies endeared to gamblers because of payment anonymity.

Some people may find it challenging to gamble based on limited stakes and restrictions made to specific regions. Cryptocurrencies are eradicating these challenges based on the anonymity offered.

Payments with crypto in general do not provide anonymity and even when using XMR it's of no help if you're using a centralized platform. Moreover, using XMR, VPN or both possibly triggers a KYC request from the website before you are allowed to withdraw any money from it. Try registering on Binance with Mail2Tor through Tor Browser and then depositing some XMR, trading and finally withdrawing - can you? I assure you the answer is 99% negative.

So yeah, privacy is mostly gone right now and I see it worse when it comes to gambling. I'm usually very much against the way privacy gets stripped away from us however, but I am personally fine with it strictly when it comes to betting. It provokes addiction and there are some age groups I guess we all want to keep off it.

[mirakal]

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We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

I think there is less chance to make online casinos and gambling be regulated, yet it depends on the platform and the currency to be used whether they would be centralized or decentralized. And as the anonymous gambling (or the common gambling casinos online) we enjoy today are decentralized (often use dec system and cryptos as well), I think making a centralized one would have less clients/customers, in which, we all know were a big risk to take. I still don't see the possibility of a regulated online casino, it has too many cons and risks.

In some online casinos, there are restrictions, some countries are ban and maybe some countries are required to follow the set or rules for KYC.
In my country which is the Philippines, everytime I access in different casinos, I was never ask for a KYC, an email is already good enough as a requirement then you can start to gamble, what I'm worried is if in the future, things will change and I can't enjoy the same liberty I'm enjoying now.

[btc_angela]

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We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

I think there is less chance to make online casinos and gambling be regulated, yet it depends on the platform and the currency to be used whether they would be centralized or decentralized. And as the anonymous gambling (or the common gambling casinos online) we enjoy today are decentralized (often use dec system and cryptos as well), I think making a centralized one would have less clients/customers, in which, we all know were a big risk to take. I still don't see the possibility of a regulated online casino, it has too many cons and risks.

In some online casinos, there are restrictions, some countries are ban and maybe some countries are required to follow the set or rules for KYC.
In my country which is the Philippines, everytime I access in different casinos, I was never ask for a KYC, an email is already good enough as a requirement then you can start to gamble, what I'm worried is if in the future, things will change and I can't enjoy the same liberty I'm enjoying now.

I think it will be just a matter of time before online crypto related casino's will require KYC similar to fiat base. And it's really scary thought as there will be no difference at all. And we all know that we used bitcoin or other crypto because we want to be anonymous at least. But this scenario might change overtime. And if this happens, we don't know if crypto gambling will still be a good platform to play.

[Bitinity]

I started to think about the anonymity of cyrpto will end soon when most exchanges ask for KYC few years back. Nowadays we see many crypto gambling sites are also having KYC requirement. It makes me more confidence that we will not have the anonymity anymore in crypto gambling industry. Once everything related to crypto is being regulated, that's the end of the anonymous of crypto imho.

[Tipstar]

For most of crypto gambling site, they'd never ask for your identity until you have large sum of money going in and out or rouge bitcoin coming in. In that case, with an official complaint from the authorities, they may force you to do a KYC. And again not asking your KYC doesn't mean you are anonymous as they do log your email (if required) and IP.
Small users would never be bothered by it, as authorities won't be hunting you and your coins for small tax frauds.

[Finestream]

I started to think about the anonymity of cyrpto will end soon when most exchanges ask for KYC few years back. Nowadays we see many crypto gambling sites are also having KYC requirement. It makes me more confidence that we will not have the anonymity anymore in crypto gambling industry. Once everything related to crypto is being regulated, that's the end of the anonymous of crypto imho.

That's definitely fore sure, when there is a regulated, the KYC is always present since we are dealing with money in this activities where some money launderer can take advantage on laundering their funds into a casinos.

We can site some example.
Bangladesh Bank Heist Exposes Laundering Links In Philippine Casinos

This is a big crime, without KYC they won't be able to see where the money was link or where it was laundered.

So as market is fully regulated, it would help to increase adoption but at the expense of our anonymity.

[mu_enrico]

Anon gambling sites will still exist despite the AML rules, but the problem is, what kind of games they offer... probably not as developed as mainstream ones. For slots lovers like me, I'll enjoy the very moment, when I can play mainstream slots on sites that still accept no-KYC accounts for small deposits/withdrawals. In the future, if all accounts need KYC, then I'll probably retire from gambling since I live in "gambling is bad" country. However, if I'm lucky and become rich, I'll move to Australia for sure.

[Sanitough]

Anon gambling sites will still exist despite the AML rules, but the problem is, what kind of games they offer... probably not as developed as mainstream ones. For slots lovers like me, I'll enjoy the very moment, when I can play mainstream slots on sites that still accept no-KYC accounts for small deposits/withdrawals. In the future, if all accounts need KYC, then I'll probably retire from gambling since I live in "gambling is bad" country.

That's probably the future of crypto gambling, if the government are trying to Deanonymize Privacy Coins, then they will not exempt the crypto casinos for sure.

Article (IRS Is Trying To Deanonymize Privacy Coins Like Monero And Zcash

That's what would happen if we wish that the crypto market will be regulated, our anonymity will be gone as the government has the right to track us once we are under the regulation.

However, if I'm lucky and become rich, I'll move to Australia for sure.

I wish you good luck, hopefully you'll achieved that dream soon or before all crypto casinos will be fully regulated.

[Ziskinberg]

2- Anonymity is guaranteed

Not all the time, Not forever.

Even depositing our money in the bank which we owned it, it was never private as the bank itself can divulge our information and the authorities knows our record, so even if they will say they will protect our privacy, that's not guaranteed as we are living in a corrupt world where greedy people exist.

For casinos, yes for now we can gamble anonymously, we can use mixers, to further hide our identity, but it will not last forever or for long, we better enjoy it now while it last.

[Casdinyard]

In some online casinos, there are restrictions, some countries are ban and maybe some countries are required to follow the set or rules for KYC.
In my country which is the Philippines, everytime I access in different casinos, I was never ask for a KYC, an email is already good enough as a requirement then you can start to gamble, what I'm worried is if in the future, things will change and I can't enjoy the same liberty I'm enjoying now.

Don't worry dude, I'm from Philippines as well. And I think we shouldn't be bothered with online casinos especially those who are just focused in accepting cryptos, as most of it weren't based in the country. The anonymity is still intact as long as KYC isn't required.

If you are pertaining to taxes especially as it was a hot topic in the senate, I guess it will take time for the government to study well how online casinos and it's Philippine players had been grown for years and the vast internet would be impossible to looked up as with the country's capability to investigate online activities were pretty much outdated.

I think it will be just a matter of time before online crypto related casino's will require KYC similar to fiat base. And it's really scary thought as there will be no difference at all. And we all know that we used bitcoin or other crypto because we want to be anonymous at least. But this scenario might change overtime. And if this happens, we don't know if crypto gambling will still be a good platform to play.

If crypto or the use of crypto would require knowing your information, then I guess it will be its very end. Not only the end of crypto gambling, but only the whole crypto in general as well.

1. You buy BTC
2. You buy something off the Internet with some of it
3. You gamble the rest without mixing your coins, using your real IP or name
Your anonymity is already gone.

I think the OP pertains to the anonymity of one's legal and personal information more specifically a user's submission to a gambling's KYC. Knowing your IP isn't that an "anonymity" killer, but just a vulnerability, and gambling platforms that bypasses its user's security is often red-tagged.

[FontSeli]

Your thoughts please.

I think that the owners of crypto casinos are well aware that maintaining the anonymity of players is one of the main advantages of their casinos over other online casinos. And I hope they will try to keep it as long as possible.
However, players should remember that if they withdraw coins from the casino to the exchange wallets where they have passed the KYC, this will remove their anonymity.

[passwordnow]

The crypto casinos keep the record from logins of their customers so that's not 100% anonymous. As long as they won't use that other the verification of their website or platform our identities and IPs are being kept by them. There are incidents that a casino requires KYC for the purpose that they're asking for it for better verification and if you are a winner, you have no choice but to comply to get your money from them.

[Questat]

Your thoughts please.

I think that the owners of crypto casinos are well aware that maintaining the anonymity of players is one of the main advantages of their casinos over other online casinos. And I hope they will try to keep it as long as possible.

That would remain their advantage if they will be able to maintain that, and of course they will try to but if regulation will exist and would give a mandate that it's not allowed anymore, I think they have no choice but to follow, otherwise their business will be compromise.

I was thinking if there are non-licensed casinos now that are making good profit, if you guys can name one, I'd appreciate it as it would only proved that even if a casinos has no license, it can still succeed.

However, players should remember that if they withdraw coins from the casino to the exchange wallets where they have passed the KYC, this will remove their anonymity.

That's given as exchanges both local outside local are all regulated.

[FontSeli]

Your thoughts please.

I think that the owners of crypto casinos are well aware that maintaining the anonymity of players is one of the main advantages of their casinos over other online casinos. And I hope they will try to keep it as long as possible.

That would remain their advantage if they will be able to maintain that, and of course they will try to but if regulation will exist and would give a mandate that it's not allowed anymore, I think they have no choice but to follow, otherwise their business will be compromise.

I was thinking if there are non-licensed casinos now that are making good profit, if you guys can name one, I'd appreciate it as it would only proved that even if a casinos has no license, it can still succeed.

However, players should remember that if they withdraw coins from the casino to the exchange wallets where they have passed the KYC, this will remove their anonymity.

That's given as exchanges both local outside local are all regulated.

We can now see something similar on the example of exchanges where cryptocurrency is traded. There are exchanges where KYC is mandatory, but there are also those who resist the decisions of regulators and do not require their customers to mandatory KYC verification. I think it will be the same with online casinos.

[spike420211]

When the market is fully regulated, and probably will be in the future, anonymity will not matter. In the sense that many will have to go through the identification procedure.
Of primary importance will be the security of the data storage platform.

If it were a single secure platform on the blockchain, it would solve many problems with data leaks.
I am not a fan of deanonization, but I don’t see anything safe in it if there is a guarantee that my data will be completely safe and self-destruct at the slightest attempt to hack. But such guarantees can be obtained only in words.

[Botnake]

Probably this kind of complain will not happen again, from our very owned forum.
Luckyfish accepting kids

This is just some of the risk when a casino is not fully regulated, kids can gamble because it's anonymous, and with the variety of games casinos are offering, it will not be hard to find for a game that would entertain based on individual's preference.

Therefore, I agree with most of you here that anonymity will not last forever in crypto, due to the regulation as regulation makes a business transparent from their eyes for them to easily monitor when there are complains of violation, either from the casino or for the casino.

[ethereumhunter]

I think there will be a crypto gambling website which will not apply KYC someday, even if there is a regulation for every gambling site. I think the government will understand the anonymity, and they can not force all people to give their document, even to the third party because the user will have full control of their private document. Somehow, I don't think that the government can interfere with the internet, which is out from their hands, but they can force the ISP to get their consumer data. But danger or not, we will see it later when the government are trying to regulate the online crypto gambling, and we don't have to worry about that.

[dothebeats]

The moment you bought bitcoins on an exchange wherein you divulged your information to satisfy their KYC requirement, your anonymity is already compromised in a way. One thing that can somewhat mask your trail from the exchange to the gambling site is to use a mixer, but even that people can still follow the traces on where your coins went with modern ways of coin tracing (though it is very minimal). Privacy coins can be a workaround to do such, but there aren't that many platforms that are dealing with privacy coins that we are seeing so one way or another you will have to convert back to btc or any crypto that their support.

IMO, for as long as you are not gambling millions or hundreds of thousands on crypto gambling, you're fine. Usually, your trail is only relevant to other people if you are a big fish on the pond. Most of us here are probably just gambling for a jackpot and are minnows and carps in a pond full of giants anyway. So consider your privacy compromised once you played on crypto casinos requiring KYC. They will always say that they got your back when it comes to your info but in truth, they just save those information and who knows, they might even sell that info somewhere.. and it's nothing new.

[TrevorS]

I don't really believe in casino anonymity they are declaring even today and take all my best to hide myself behind different IPs, let their watching system to follow the wrong path when analyzing my online device and so on. That's just a matter of time when we face the  fully regulated market. So we need to be prepared for that, improving the  skills of hiding online.

I believe that the anonymity referred to in the first post is a direct passage of the CIC procedure in view of the introduction of regulation.
Take a look at how quickly many top exchanges reduced withdrawal limits without identification. All in order to adapt to the conditions of regulation and conduct their activities as widely as possible.
It is best to bypass those casinos that require you to identify if you are worried about your anonymity.

[Herbert2020]

I don't really believe in casino anonymity they are declaring even today and take all my best to hide myself behind different IPs, let their watching system to follow the wrong path when analyzing my online device and so on. That's just a matter of time when we face the  fully regulated market. So we need to be prepared for that, improving the  skills of hiding online.

I believe that the anonymity referred to in the first post is a direct passage of the CIC procedure in view of the introduction of regulation.
Take a look at how quickly many top exchanges reduced withdrawal limits without identification. All in order to adapt to the conditions of regulation and conduct their activities as widely as possible.
It is best to bypass those casinos that require you to identify if you are worried about your anonymity.

almost all cryptocurrency oriented casinos have no kind of license and are not working under any regulations or anything like that. additionally they do not work with fiat every. that means if any of this type of casino is asking for your identification they are trying to scam you because there is no reason for it.
exchanges on the other hand are either working with fiat, want to add fiat in near future or are under a lot of pressure from government and are under a lot of regulatory laws. so it makes a lot of sense for them to ask for your documents.

[jrrsparkles]

You may not have complete anonymity while using any service on the internet but if you are not giving any of your sensitive information like name, nationality and things like that you are atill enjoying your anonymity because while using fiat deposit they literally have evry details about you from your banks.

[Lakai01]

You may not have complete anonymity while using any service on the internet but if you are not giving any of your sensitive information like name, nationality and things like that you are atill enjoying your anonymity because while using fiat deposit they literally have evry details about you from your banks.

This is actually exactly what the OR is all about and what "regulation" means. Casinos are virtually forced from their players to demand KYC, otherwise they lose their license or face heavy penalties.
Of course, this applies especially to casinos that are located in countries with strict laws such as EU member states. It is not for nothing that many online casinos are located in countries with very advantageous laws for gambling such as Malta.

[LbtalkL]

If the government will interfere I am afraid they will require and regulate all gambling sites according to their policies, and require users to initiate KYC which is not good some users wants to stay anonymous. I guess the government can do that, they can force shut down a website if they want to if it is not following their regulations. But if their regulations help adoption why not and they will accept bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies fully legal around the world.

[carlfebz2]

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

Regulation might come to these platforms but im sure that it would really be hard to implement it strictly yet any crypto casinos can able to launch without anybodies permission.

They can come and go as they like this is why it is somewhat hard to implement regulation into this one due to anonymity and i guess this would still takes time

for government to get control of.Hence, it is somehow pointless on following these platforms from time to time and also total liquidation is hard to be known.

[TrevorS]

I don't really believe in casino anonymity they are declaring even today and take all my best to hide myself behind different IPs, let their watching system to follow the wrong path when analyzing my online device and so on. That's just a matter of time when we face the  fully regulated market. So we need to be prepared for that, improving the  skills of hiding online.

I believe that the anonymity referred to in the first post is a direct passage of the CIC procedure in view of the introduction of regulation.
Take a look at how quickly many top exchanges reduced withdrawal limits without identification. All in order to adapt to the conditions of regulation and conduct their activities as widely as possible.
It is best to bypass those casinos that require you to identify if you are worried about your anonymity.

almost all cryptocurrency oriented casinos have no kind of license and are not working under any regulations or anything like that. additionally they do not work with fiat every. that means if any of this type of casino is asking for your identification they are trying to scam you because there is no reason for it.
exchanges on the other hand are either working with fiat, want to add fiat in near future or are under a lot of pressure from government and are under a lot of regulatory laws. so it makes a lot of sense for them to ask for your documents.

It turns out that casinos are in a rather favorable position in relation to regulators. They do not work with fiat, which allows them to be out of range of regulators.
And at the same time, they use cryptocurrency which is almost not regulated and in most cases does not have a legal status.
However, at the same time, does this endanger users of such platforms without a license?

[asu]

However, at the same time, does this endanger users of such platforms without a license?

Obviously, yes. It's a double-edged sword because of those illegal activities.

The time you signed up and start playing endangered your information (such as: ip, device), because operating a casino that is not registered and without a valid license is illegal.

[Mahanton]

However, at the same time, does this endanger users of such platforms without a license?

Obviously, yes. It's a double-edged sword because of those illegal activities.

The time you signed up and start playing endangered your information (such as: ip, device), because operating a casino that is not registered and without a valid license is illegal.

I dont see for ip or device reveal would be a big issue towards that matter since we can make use vpn or other service to hide it out if you are really keen towards your privacy aspects but
most of the time, users arent really that much of concern thats why i dont count this as a risk on playing online specially with crypto based platforms and as long you dont give out your
personal details then you are still good.For now we can still cherish out these good days with crypto gaming because of anonymity aspect.We can question out their legitimacy since majority
of them doesnt have license but just simply stick out to those who are commonly being used then you are still in the right platform.

[asu]

I dont see for ip or device reveal would be a big issue towards that matter since we can make use vpn or other service to hide it out if you are really keen towards your privacy aspects but
most of the time.

Well, yeah it's not that an issue. But those who operates illegally are those often ask for KYC registration.

We can question out their legitimacy since majority
of them doesnt have license but just simply stick out to those who are commonly being used then you are still in the right platform.

You're wrong.

Try to look at all the popular gambling casino, swipe down and you'll find what a registered casino license is. The majority is only those lazy people continuously playing at unlicense casino.

[harizen]

We don't have to worry if the amount involved, on either deposit or withdrawal is not that decent. In most cases at gambling sites, KYC is just needed at those big amounts of withdrawals or suspicious.

I mean, look at some popular exchanges. KYC is only to surpass the withdrawal limits and not actually mandatory.

There might be a time that imposing KYC will be mandatory but as long as not all crypto-exchanges like that, which is much bound in being a centralized one, low chances to happen for now in crypto-gambling sites.

[Becky666]

You may not have complete anonymity while using any service on the internet but if you are not giving any of your sensitive information like name, nationality and things like that you are atill enjoying your anonymity because while using fiat deposit they literally have evry details about you from your banks.

Let be real here. Gamblers don't really have anonymity while they gamble because, from the start to the point of gambling we have already lost our anonymity. As a gambler who want to gamble, you get your coins from an exchange or from a wallet, and in those exchanges you have done your KYC or when install your wallet you probably did your KYC then anonymity is far from such gambler. The issue we  have is, many cryptocurrency exchanges now apply KYC as their policy.

For anyone to be very sure of their privacy while gambling online, they should first check how their coins get into their wallets and how they were moved into the gambling casino.

[imstillthebest]

online gambling existed long time ago but so far only few gambling markets are being regulated so i think this will not affect the other  , i dont worry on it at all  .  im still confident that some gambling sites will remain to operate in a anonymous way  because that is the real essence of crypto or they are using a crypto  .  doesnt make sense at all when they use a crypto but they will operate in a full regulation or a non anonymous way  . many onine gamblers will leaving then  .

[Mahanton]

I dont see for ip or device reveal would be a big issue towards that matter since we can make use vpn or other service to hide it out if you are really keen towards your privacy aspects but
most of the time.

Well, yeah it's not that an issue. But those who operates illegally are those often ask for KYC registration.

We can question out their legitimacy since majority
of them doesnt have license but just simply stick out to those who are commonly being used then you are still in the right platform.

You're wrong.

Try to look at all the popular gambling casino, swipe down and you'll find what a registered casino license is. The majority is only those lazy people continuously playing at unlicense casino.

You got some point too which i do agree! KYC is just part of their alibi to make people wont able to withdraw their winnings.
Recently, i just read up some thread about huge win and ask out KYC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260506.0
Even known ones can ask out which is not really that appealing.

[ReiMomo]

Anonymity is good in gambling platform but it will depend if this licensed casino, not the unlicensed one.

As I understand, the obvious point of having government regulation in the gambling industry is to ensure that people should aware that they are dealing with a good platform and their fund is safe with the regulated and licensed casino. This regulation is to ensure that they are operated lawfully, ethically and gamblers are safe and treated fairly.

KYC implementation is only those players who withdraw/deposit that exceed their highest limit. This is to avoid money laundering which prohibited in all countries' jurisdictions.

If you gamble just for fun with a small amount, there 's no problem with that. Gmail verification was commonly required in most gambling platforms.

[Lucasgabd]

Edward Snowden says that technology is always 2 or 3 generations ahead of laws.

there are some development and things that happen online that laws will always lack and try to adjust to be able to contemplate.
worth remembering that.

[harizen]

If you gamble just for fun with a small amount, there 's no problem with that. Gmail verification was commonly required in most gambling platforms.

Agree, as I point out too. We are not a typical gambler doing an over BTC1 betting regularly, either by withdrawal or so.

The added layer of security, might be something related to additional verification, is possible but we don't have to worry about that as long as we are not hitting the alarm. For let's say, things got centralized, as per all services related to crypto, gambling sites will surely the last crypto-related service that will be required to have a complete and mandatory KYC.

[serjent05]

The Truth Behind Crypto and Online Gambling

Online gambling is, therefore, part of this bandwagon because internet proliferation has enabled cryptocurrencies to emerge as convenient payment avenues in this sector as hundreds of betting sites offer this option.

1-Eliminating payment headache
2- Anonymity is guaranteed
3-Minimal operation costs

I am very much concern with the bolded wordss so I like to ask your opinion on it.
We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

Obviously, when the market is regulated, anything that has something to do with money flow needs KYC.  So this "anonymity guaranteed" will just a part of the history in crypto gambling industry once it is fully regulated.  Aside from that, some crypto Casino requires their player to submit identity documents when winning a huge amount of money.

[nelson4lov]

I think right now, Its quite obvious that casinos won't be to do much  to keep the details of their users (gamblers on their platform) should governmental policies and laws requests for it. It's similar to what we have seen with exchanges over the last couple of years. I think the way this would work is via a full-fledged decentralized and open source gambling platform with no ties to government / gambling licenses providers. This way, gamblers can maintain anonymity across the platform. This is something current gambling platforms don't have.

[asu]

You got some point too which i do agree! KYC is just part of their alibi to make people wont able to withdraw their winnings.
Recently, i just read up some thread about huge win and ask out KYC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260506.0
Even known ones can ask out which is not really that appealing.

Not an alibi, just a part of their T&C. You can tell thay by what others pointing it out too.

In that case, that's not surprising with that huge amount. Casino wouldn't just handed out that amount without some verification, were the KYC go enter the discussion.

[Mahanton]

You got some point too which i do agree! KYC is just part of their alibi to make people wont able to withdraw their winnings.
Recently, i just read up some thread about huge win and ask out KYC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260506.0
Even known ones can ask out which is not really that appealing.

Not an alibi, just a part of their T&C. You can tell thay by what others pointing it out too.

In that case, that's not surprising with that huge amount. Casino wouldn't just handed out that amount without some verification, were the KYC go enter the discussion.

When dealing up with crypto gambling sites then i dont really believe much on strict KYC implementation incase of big win yet there are reputable ones that do directly
pays out even if its a big win or not unless if they do find out suspicious activity into your betting then that would be the time they might consider on asking out documentation
but it do really sucks and basing of  into the thread you can see the video that everything was done smoothly with extreme luck.

[chaser15]

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Fully regulation doesn't mean gambling sites will have to mandatory required KYC. It's just for surpassing an account limit or those who are subject to investigation.

I'm sure gambling sites will remain on their current setup for several years to come. It's hard to believe right now that they will mandatorily ask for KYC, even in the future. It's useless to impose it if there's an account that just playing with a lower amount on each of their betting session.

[shoreno]

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Fully regulation doesn't mean gambling sites will have to mandatory required KYC. It's just for surpassing an account limit or those who are subject to investigation.

I'm sure gambling sites will remain on their current setup for several years to come. It's hard to believe right now that they will mandatorily ask for KYC, even in the future. It's useless to impose it if there's an account that just playing with a lower amount on each of their betting session.

fully regulation for me means that a gambling site will require kyc and implement more strict rules that removes anonimity   .

what we have on many gambling sites right now is partial regulation only because the kyc isnt mandatory  . kyc purpose isnt only for big or small amount but they can impose kyc because that is only the answer to know if what kind of people are playing on thier site or if what are thier age .  many fraudster and under age people are using a gambling site today  .

[Awraawra]

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We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

I think there is less chance to make online casinos and gambling be regulated, yet it depends on the platform and the currency to be used whether they would be centralized or decentralized. And as the anonymous gambling (or the common gambling casinos online) we enjoy today are decentralized (often use dec system and cryptos as well), I think making a centralized one would have less clients/customers, in which, we all know were a big risk to take. I still don't see the possibility of a regulated online casino, it has too many cons and risks.

In some online casinos, there are restrictions, some countries are ban and maybe some countries are required to follow the set or rules for KYC.
In my country which is the Philippines, everytime I access in different casinos, I was never ask for a KYC, an email is already good enough as a requirement then you can start to gamble, what I'm worried is if in the future, things will change and I can't enjoy the same liberty I'm enjoying now.

Yes in Philippines are not so strict in online gambling just all need is to verify in email then you can start gambling you can deposit and withdraw with out any hard. You don't need to worry because there's a lot of online gambling that we can gamble with out kyc.

[seleme]

Depending on the "heaven" rules of location, the anonymity is not fully implemented on many casinos. The casino management always uses the terms and conditions in their favour and they put some lines on this page for preventing the user to avoid the KYC, AML. The anonymity will be there on small casinos but crossing the red limits will lead to passing the KYC sooner or later.

1. You buy BTC
2. You buy something off the Internet with some of it
3. You gamble the rest without mixing your coins, using your real IP or name

Your anonymity is already gone. Gone after the fingerprints you left in the immutable ledger. Full anonymity would probably only happen if a coin such as XMR ever gets to have gambling DApps to combine the privacy features of the coin with blockchain-based bets. Otherwise, the "full anonymity" mostly falsely remains in your head.

The article even gets crypto payments the wrong way around:

Crypto wallets are confidential, as details are only known by the owners. This is another aspect that makes cryptocurrencies endeared to gamblers because of payment anonymity.

Some people may find it challenging to gamble based on limited stakes and restrictions made to specific regions. Cryptocurrencies are eradicating these challenges based on the anonymity offered.

Payments with crypto in general do not provide anonymity and even when using XMR it's of no help if you're using a centralized platform. Moreover, using XMR, VPN or both possibly triggers a KYC request from the website before you are allowed to withdraw any money from it. Try registering on Binance with Mail2Tor through Tor Browser and then depositing some XMR, trading and finally withdrawing - can you? I assure you the answer is 99% negative.

So yeah, privacy is mostly gone right now and I see it worse when it comes to gambling. I'm usually very much against the way privacy gets stripped away from us however, but I am personally fine with it strictly when it comes to betting. It provokes addiction and there are some age groups I guess we all want to keep off it.

Well explained, I agree with detailed analysis.

[sheenshane]

I'm sure gambling sites will remain on their current setup for several years to come. It's hard to believe right now that they will mandatorily ask for KYC, even in the future. It's useless to impose it if there's an account that just playing with a lower amount on each of their betting session.

I tend to agree with you, this KYC implementation will keep people away on the site. When it comes to online gambling we should protect our privacy for any circumstances that may happen. And being anonymity is a part of your privacy that shouldn't be revealed by whom someone else.

If you worried about this anonymity, you should be practice always to read the FAQ or the TOS of the gambling site to avoid the possible problem when it comes you have a plan of cashing out your fund and also might possible gambling sites owner will take advantage on it. There are various gambling platforms where you can choose a better one.

[Yamifoud]

We are going to lose that anonymity feature somehow in the future knowing that most gambling sites are asking for KYC and lead our information left in their site until forever. Some countries are taking action already to regulate the numbers of a growing gambling site online. Authorities would like to see its transparency and this could hold everything and all registrants to undergo KYC as probably it is mandated by the owners. But I'm not worried about this thing to happen in the future, instead, it was a good way to stop or minimize (at least) illegalities online.

[Twinkledoe]

We are going to lose that anonymity feature somehow in the future knowing that most gambling sites are asking for KYC and lead our information left in their site until forever. Some countries are taking action already to regulate the numbers of a growing gambling site online. Authorities would like to see its transparency and this could hold everything and all registrants to undergo KYC as probably it is mandated by the owners. But I'm not worried about this thing to happen in the future, instead, it was a good way to stop or minimize (at least) illegalities online.

Gamblers can always choose those online sites that don't require KYC and there are still reputable sites that don't require one. But players should be careful with the ToS, because some casinos at one point will ask KYC if they feel there are some irregularities with your account. However, if you are not hiding anything or not afraid of the possible tax that you need to pay, submitting KYC would not be a problem.

[serjent05]

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Fully regulation doesn't mean gambling sites will have to mandatory required KYC. It's just for surpassing an account limit or those who are subject to investigation.

I'm sure gambling sites will remain on their current setup for several years to come. It's hard to believe right now that they will mandatorily ask for KYC, even in the future. It's useless to impose it if there's an account that just playing with a lower amount on each of their betting session.

Minors are supposed to be not allowed to join the gambling activities.  This reason alone is enough to implement KYC to every player on the site.  That is when government fully regulates crypto casinos.  It is not how little or how big you wagered or deposit is.  It is about the legality of the player's age to do gambling activities.

[Danslip]

We are going to lose that anonymity feature somehow in the future knowing that most gambling sites are asking for KYC and lead our information left in their site until forever. Some countries are taking action already to regulate the numbers of a growing gambling site online. Authorities would like to see its transparency and this could hold everything and all registrants to undergo KYC as probably it is mandated by the owners. But I'm not worried about this thing to happen in the future, instead, it was a good way to stop or minimize (at least) illegalities online.

Gamblers can always choose those online sites that don't require KYC and there are still reputable sites that don't require one. But players should be careful with the ToS, because some casinos at one point will ask KYC if they feel there are some irregularities with your account. However, if you are not hiding anything or not afraid of the possible tax that you need to pay, submitting KYC would not be a problem.

Endless loop has started after this point, the main idea is to avoid the KYC in all costs, this is why we call the stated online casinos as anonymous casinos. It doesn't matter, at which point they will break the rules and will send a sudden email about blocked account that can be reopened after submitting all personal documents. I don't believe any anonymous casino 100%, the regulators can kick them out at any time.

[arwin100]

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Fully regulation doesn't mean gambling sites will have to mandatory required KYC. It's just for surpassing an account limit or those who are subject to investigation.

I'm sure gambling sites will remain on their current setup for several years to come. It's hard to believe right now that they will mandatorily ask for KYC, even in the future. It's useless to impose it if there's an account that just playing with a lower amount on each of their betting session.

Minors are supposed to be not allowed to join the gambling activities.  This reason alone is enough to implement KYC to every player on the site.  That is when government fully regulates crypto casinos.  It is not how little or how big you wagered or deposit is.  It is about the legality of the player's age to do gambling activities.

For this issues sites really needed to conduct a KYC feature but this is debatable since it's very dangerous for us if scam casino's will require their players to do the KYC procedure and we might gonna face a serious issue if we go on the wrong site. For this its our obligation to watch our children's on what platform or what kind of things they are going thru so that they will not go in the addictive path.

[Wexnident]

There are different regulations from casino to casino, some require you to use KYC and some don't. Whether you use Crypto or not is a second matter tbh, it's all about how the casino itself judges you before you are able to play, whether you are allowed to play anonymously, or identity is required. If in the future, Casinos are able to find a way to find minors without needing KYC procedures, then anonymity may be quite obvious at that point. Sadly, most solutions require an identity number, so in the end, you'd still be stuck with them knowing who you are through tracing various databases ( if such a solution were implemented anw.)

Casinos would most likely implement KYC in the long run, especially if countries that have legal casinos start implementing stricter regulations. Not like they can really refuse such regulations if they want to keep their business going right? I'm not that against providing KYC to casinos, especially since I understand the logic behind the reasons as to why KYC was implemented, but if there was a way to satisfy both sides, where casinos are able to ensure the safety of players and follow regulations WHILE retaining the anonymity of players, then I'd be down for it. Sadly, at this point, without the ability to do so, we can only compromise.

[rhomelmabini]

We are going to lose that anonymity feature somehow in the future knowing that most gambling sites are asking for KYC and lead our information left in their site until forever. Some countries are taking action already to regulate the numbers of a growing gambling site online. Authorities would like to see its transparency and this could hold everything and all registrants to undergo KYC as probably it is mandated by the owners. But I'm not worried about this thing to happen in the future, instead, it was a good way to stop or minimize (at least) illegalities online.

Gamblers can always choose those online sites that don't require KYC and there are still reputable sites that don't require one. But players should be careful with the ToS, because some casinos at one point will ask KYC if they feel there are some irregularities with your account. However, if you are not hiding anything or not afraid of the possible tax that you need to pay, submitting KYC would not be a problem.

We can choose but most likely the unexpected things really do happen and to realize it is to abide by what terms they have. I'm good with casinos that have KYC as long as they are running legally and we know who we can sue if the site has some irregularities pertaining to any kind;  may it about some probably fair,  etc.

[Darker45]

Anonymity is guaranteed but only to a certain extent. There is no such thing as absolute anonymity when it comes to fully regulated businesses.

As a matter of fact, how many times have we encountered situations in which users were suddenly asked to comply with KYC even if the gambling site does not require it from everyone?

A simple suspicion is enough for your account to get frozen and won't be unlocked until you complied and passed with everything they ask from you.

[ralle14]

As kevin mentioned with the additional activities that some gamblers do before and after gambling in a casino a part of your information will always be exposed. Several sites have been updating their terms and conditions as well making it much harder for certain people to gamble. There's always new casinos taking advantage of registrations with no KYC but they'll eventually switch like the rest since they need to follow the rules if they want to continue operating.

[seoincorporation]

is hard to see anonymous gambling nowadays, most of the casinos need KYC system and more if they are paying big amounts.

The only 100% anonymouse site is that one where you can place a bet without having an account, is known as ofchcnain gambling, and you place a bet each time you send a transaction.

For those who want more information, i will leave the site here: https://classic.luckyb.it/

[mersal]

I can see better anonymity while playing on an online crypto gambling while compared to a physical casinos but on rare occasions we may need to undergo KYC in that time our personal details may get exposed but as long as we are playing with little money and getting decent amount in return we can be completely stay anonymous, the suspicious arises only when we won huge amount or huge changes in our account's log details.

[iamsheikhadil]

I don't think it will be hampered because the moment a casino asks KYC documents from me, I'll not play in that casino anymore. The only exceptions are exponentially high wins like millions of dollars in a single bet, then I can understand why they need KYC because it's for my safety and control.

[alani123]

The larger a platform becomes, the harder it is to keep it running without KYC and compliance. Its owners might be hunted by the authorities in their home country if their name is revealed. Seals with Clubs faced this issue if I remember correctly.

If the owners are commited to growing their website, they might have to alter their lifestyle dramatically. In other words, lay low and potentially even move to a different country that has more permissive policies on gambling. I think anonymous gambling will never be banned worldwide all thanks to BTC now. Even if war is waged on it by online service providers, there are ways to keep it afloat still.

So far hosting platforms, registrars and cloudflare are all pretty chill about it, in spite of the act of running an unregulated gambling website isn't exactly considered legal. If a country bans it, others are going to provide licenses for profit. I think so far there has been little drive to eradicate anonymous gambling.

[MCobian]

Now we can enjoy the anonymity in gambling, because most online gambling doesn't enforce KYC. But in the long run maybe we can no longer
enjoy the anonymity in gambling. Possibilities like exchanges and centralized wallets that impose KYC, online gambling may enforce KYC because
of government requests. This is applied to avoid illegal activities.

[Genemind]

We cannot blame some platforms in requiring KYC because most regulated casinos have to comply with the law or get punished for breaking it. There are some countries where gambling is strictly prohibited, and not to mention age restrictions which is one of the reasons why most are using online casinos.

[maydna]

Now we can enjoy the anonymity in gambling, because most online gambling doesn't enforce KYC. But in the long run maybe we can no longer
enjoy the anonymity in gambling. Possibilities like exchanges and centralized wallets that impose KYC, online gambling may enforce KYC because
of government requests. This is applied to avoid illegal activities.

While we still have time to enjoy the anonymity in gambling, we better use that time to playing gambling games because once the government makes regulation about online crypto gambling, we should follow the rule if we don't want to have a problem.

But personally, I guess the gambling website will search for the hosting website which doesn't have a regulation to fill the KYC or the gambling website will find out the country which gambling is allowed and host their website with the hosting from that country and they will have a license, so their members don't have to fill the KYC. The crypto gambling website gets the money from the gamblers, and if they apply the KYC, their revenue will reduce because crypto gamblers think that their identity is an important thing that they should protect.

[adzino]

Anon gambling sites will still exist despite the AML rules, but the problem is, what kind of games they offer... probably not as developed as mainstream ones. For slots lovers like me, I'll enjoy the very moment, when I can play mainstream slots on sites that still accept no-KYC accounts for small deposits/withdrawals. In the future, if all accounts need KYC, then I'll probably retire from gambling since I live in "gambling is bad" country. However, if I'm lucky and become rich, I'll move to Australia for sure.

Doesn't matter if they offer different kind of games, they still will have to apply KYC policies. As long as financial transaction takes place in company, there must be KYC and AML policies in order not to fall in trouble with your government laws.
Lol, you live in a country where gambling is prohibited. How do you expect to move those move legally from your country to Australia? You government will end up convicting you for laundering money.

[Degens]

Anon gambling sites will still exist despite the AML rules, but the problem is, what kind of games they offer... probably not as developed as mainstream ones. For slots lovers like me, I'll enjoy the very moment, when I can play mainstream slots on sites that still accept no-KYC accounts for small deposits/withdrawals. In the future, if all accounts need KYC, then I'll probably retire from gambling since I live in "gambling is bad" country. However, if I'm lucky and become rich, I'll move to Australia for sure.

Doesn't matter if they offer different kind of games, they still will have to apply KYC policies. As long as financial transaction takes place in company, there must be KYC and AML policies in order not to fall in trouble with your government laws.
Lol, you live in a country where gambling is prohibited. How do you expect to move those move legally from your country to Australia? You government will end up convicting you for laundering money.

Well what about smart contract platforms like Degens where the bets are made directly with the blockchain? Is KYC legally required? It's a grey area when it comes to decentralized applications.

[20kevin20]

I think the OP pertains to the anonymity of one's legal and personal information more specifically a user's submission to a gambling's KYC. Knowing your IP isn't that an "anonymity" killer, but just a vulnerability, and gambling platforms that bypasses its user's security is often red-tagged.

Knowing your real IP without also knowing any other personal information doesn't make you anonymous though, does it?

You're automatically giving up your real IP and an e-mail address you own upon registering; KYC makes it so that you also willingly give up other critical information of yours in order to be accepted on the website (or in order to extend some features of your account).

Just think about it: you use the same IP to register 2 accounts under the same e-mail, out of which one is supposedly "anonymous" and the other is an exchange you've completed KYC on. As soon as the KYC is complete, you literally fully de-anonymize yourself on the former account. Not to mention other fingerprints you leave behind, including but not limited to the way you write, your English skills, your browser fingerprint, your activity (part of which is tracked on a large part of the currently existing websites) etc. If IP wasn't an issue, Tor Browser, Tails, Qubes etc wouldn't exist.

So if we want anonymity, we should start studying this stuff from zero instead of jumping in the misleading "crypto anonymizes your accounts" train. First and foremost, the biggest flaw in this argument is that you literally automatically give up enough information to be identified by a bad actor (incuding the state) when visiting a website.


A good potential solution to all of the above might be launching a crypto gambling website on an Onion link that has no JS requirement and allows Mail2Tor registration. But that would completely kill off the fun as no JS means no more fast-paced gambling. For sports betting however, it might not be a problem - so that could even turn into a combination of JS-required gambling (blackjack, dice etc) and a no-JS part of the website that allows bet placing for sports gambling. Biggest issue here is that only very few are looking for privacy to the extremes, so not sure how successful a such website would really be.

[Kasabus]

I hope so, but it's not in our control as when regulation comes, we have to choice but to follow, or else we will get punished, that's probably the scenario. What we are enjoying now might not last longer, so let's enjoy what we have now, anonymous gambling is still here offering us the service although in reality we are not totally anonymous.

[spike420211]

I hope so, but it's not in our control as when regulation comes, we have to choice but to follow, or else we will get punished, that's probably the scenario. What we are enjoying now might not last longer, so let's enjoy what we have now, anonymous gambling is still here offering us the service although in reality we are not totally anonymous.

To be honest, it's hard to imagine a FULLY regulated crypto market.
I am sure that there will always be countries / zones where the cryptocurrency will remain unregulated by anyone, which means using VPN and other tools you can continue to play at the casino anonymously.

Imagine how much online volume increases on platforms that will continue to provide anonymous games, and how it decreases on those who enter identification.

[Maslate]

I hope so, but it's not in our control as when regulation comes, we have to choice but to follow, or else we will get punished, that's probably the scenario. What we are enjoying now might not last longer, so let's enjoy what we have now, anonymous gambling is still here offering us the service although in reality we are not totally anonymous.

To be honest, it's hard to imagine a FULLY regulated crypto market.
I am sure that there will always be countries / zones where the cryptocurrency will remain unregulated by anyone, which means using VPN and other tools you can continue to play at the casino anonymously.

I don't think it would still be possible if the casino will require a KYC, and they'll know when you are using a VPN as your IP address might conflict with your location to the documents you submitted.

Imagine how much online volume increases on platforms that will continue to provide anonymous games, and how it decreases on those who enter identification.

That's going to be a risk when there is already a regulation, the usual way will not be enjoyed in the future, but of course we are not hoping it will happen, soon or in the future but at least we know this is possible.

[Distinctin]

I think full anonymity will be gone in the long run.

As of now, based on my observation, there are gambling sites that allows you to gamble anonymously based on what country you are living, or course they based it only on IP as that's the only way to verify it, and then if  your IP address says you belong to a country where crypto is regulated, then they could accept you but with KYC, and that alone you will already lose your anonymity when you comply.

If you would look at the other site to gamble, you can but the risk is high as reputable casinos are normally compliant to the law.

[avikz]

I am very much concern with the bolded wordss so I like to ask your opinion on it.
We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please!

Regulation and anonymity can't go hand in hand! Both have its own pros and cons. Anonymous gambling is especially beneficial for thos where gambling is legally banned. So anonymity factor allows them to gamble even if their country doesn't allows them to do so. So anonymity factor helps increase the business for gambling houses.

On the other hand, regulation brings transparency. In a regulated casino, players can be assured that they are not cheated by the owner. They have a grievance redressal system available.

Personally, I feel anonymity is a very popular factor in gambling. A lot of people don't want to be disclosed as a gambler for various social reasons. But regulation will be here for longer run. The crypto gambling market is growing on a daily basis. So regulation has to come at some point of time in future. Till then, enjoy being anonymous!

[BitcoinTurk]

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

To express my personal opinion, I think that anonymity is not fully protected even in today's conditions. I think there will be no anonymity, especially when online casino services are becoming more popular and more popular. As I mentioned, I think that even though there is no regulation today, the services we use do not happen in the future as I think that our identity or other information is not stored anonymously. In addition, we should not forget the fact that this process we are talking about is not very far away.

[bitcoinst]

We cannot blame some platforms in requiring KYC because most regulated casinos have to comply with the law or get punished for breaking it. There are some countries where gambling is strictly prohibited, and not to mention age restrictions which is one of the reasons why most are using online casinos.

Nobody blames them, people just stop playing them. I am convinced that every casino should warn about the introduction of KYC in advance.

Worst of all, when a casino without warning introduces an identification procedure and thereby forces users to disclose their data only in order to withdraw funds.
This is a tricky move that platforms that have financial difficulties often use.

[Ziskinberg]

We cannot blame some platforms in requiring KYC because most regulated casinos have to comply with the law or get punished for breaking it. There are some countries where gambling is strictly prohibited, and not to mention age restrictions which is one of the reasons why most are using online casinos.

Nobody blames them, people just stop playing them. I am convinced that every casino should warn about the introduction of KYC in advance.

I think the current format was when you gamble in FIAT, you comply with the KYC, if its for crypto, it's alright to be anonymous.
There are sites that has that kind of policy, but most of us here will prefer to gamble in crypto alone, so it's really a big inconvenient to us if this would result to a full KYC for fiat and crypto gamblers.

Worst of all, when a casino without warning introduces an identification procedure and thereby forces users to disclose their data only in order to withdraw funds.
This is a tricky move that platforms that have financial difficulties often use.

That's called cheating I guess, unless it's written in the TOS, we can't complain on that.

[Natalim]

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

To express my personal opinion, I think that anonymity is not fully protected even in today's conditions. I think there will be no anonymity, especially when online casino services are becoming more popular and more popular. 

As long as we don't give our information to them and yet we are still allowed to gamble, I believe we are doing an anonymous gambling.
In terms of IP address, we can always hide that using VPN services, so we can always keep our anonymity 100%.

As I mentioned, I think that even though there is no regulation today, the services we use do not happen in the future as I think that our identity or other information is not stored anonymously. In addition, we should not forget the fact that this process we are talking about is not very far away.

It might come sooner or later, we never know as I'm pretty sure that the government are also watching us, they are just waiting for the right timing to implement or still making the right regulation on how to treat crypto casinos, with regulation, it makes gives them a boost of their taxes, so there is no reason they will not touch us.

[20kevin20]

In terms of IP address, we can always hide that using VPN services, so we can always keep our anonymity 100%.

It depends on a few factors, but in general VPNs do not make you 100% anonymous. They only give you a false feeling of anonymity and using them might even get you banned, depending on the casino ToS.

In fact, some VPNs are logging a lot of crucial data about you. McAfee Safe Connect logs your IPs, timestamps, browsing history and even what other software you have installed. The list of the stuff they collect is quite scary, check it out here.

Also check out these policies:

Hoxx VPN: "We may share your data with our services providers (...). We have contracts with our service providers that prohibit them from sharing the information about you that they collect or that we provide to them with anyone else, or using it for other purposes."
Hola VPN: "We may also transfer or disclose Personal Information to our subsidiaries, affiliated companies."
McAfee Safe Connect: "We may share Personal Information in the following ways: (..) To legal, governmental, or judicial authorities as instructed or required by those authorities and applicable laws, or in relation to a legal activity, such as in response to a subpoena or investigation of suspected illicit or illegal activities, or where we believe in good faith that users may be engaged in illicit or illegal activities, or where we are bound by contract or law to enable a customer or business partner to comply with applicable laws;"

As you can see, the examples above are quite scary. VPNs may unlock some content that is unavailable in your country, but they surely do not make you anonymous at all - and I think people who are using VPNs are more likely to be checked out by the gov than those who do not try to go off the grid at all.

[LogitechMouse]

Right now, most of the gambling site aren't requiring the users KYC but in the long run especially when crypto will be regulated (not hoping though) anonymity will not be there already.

I know that there are some cases where they can trace you thru the IP you are using and even when you are buying Bitcoin, the fact that you passed on the KYC then the anonymity is not already there. I'm not expecting myself to be forever anonymous though so I will just not gamble at all .

[Sadlife]

Looks like if that happens we have to sacrifice a little bit of our privacy to play our favorite casino and sport betting games. It's most likely unavoidable in the near future but its necessary while there are cons there are also pros. Because we might get insurance and protection against scam gambling sites.

[bitbunnny]

I think that in todays' world we have lost our privacy completely, that become an illusion. Many say that we needed to sacrifice part of our privacy to get protection and some benefits. That is the true, but how big the cost is it's yet to find out.
Gambling sites are no exception and KYC and other legal obligations are a must. So, if you want to use legitimate sites I think you can't escape it.
We see how many people are not happy with KYC and protest because of their privacy but on the other hand on social networks and similar places they reveal much more on themselves than it's decent and acceptable. So, what's the point...

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Looks like if that happens we have to sacrifice a little bit of our privacy to play our favorite casino and sport betting games. It's most likely unavoidable in the near future but its necessary while there are cons there are also pros. Because we might get insurance and protection against scam gambling sites.

When we began to access a site or a gambling site, and we start to sign up expect that our anonymity was gone because before we sign up they will ask our email address and other information and sometimes they required KYC, that is why we should avoid scam gambling sites for us not to steal our information. In today's generation don't expect that you could hide your identity, even you use fake information because there are some organizations and people who can easily trace you.

[Latviand]

I started to think about the anonymity of cyrpto will end soon when most exchanges ask for KYC few years back. Nowadays we see many crypto gambling sites are also having KYC requirement. It makes me more confidence that we will not have the anonymity anymore in crypto gambling industry. Once everything related to crypto is being regulated, that's the end of the anonymous of crypto imho.

We need this kind of feature to secure our accounts especially that when it comes to this gambling platforms, hackers or scammers are very popular due to anonymity. But when this KTC was required to most of the gambling platforms, they are not that scared to play in a certain platform and they are comfortable.

Especially when cryptocurrencies are involved in a gambling, people will much more worried about their money that they are going to spend in a casino. Anonymity is important but that anonymity will help those scammers to scam more customers. Hopefully, they will really make this KYC to become a normal requirement for other crypto gambing sites.

[Mauser]

Looks like if that happens we have to sacrifice a little bit of our privacy to play our favorite casino and sport betting games. It's most likely unavoidable in the near future but its necessary while there are cons there are also pros. Because we might get insurance and protection against scam gambling sites.

When we began to access a site or a gambling site, and we start to sign up expect that our anonymity was gone because before we sign up they will ask our email address and other information and sometimes they required KYC, that is why we should avoid scam gambling sites for us not to steal our information. In today's generation don't expect that you could hide your identity, even you use fake information because there are some organizations and people who can easily trace you.

Don't forget that the governments are also interested in your online gambling habbits. Any larger winnings would need to be taxed, so from casinos storing data on their customers, it's only a small step to make such data accessible for the governments.  And of course personal information has a huge value these days. There are so many companies just buying this information and selling them to various advertisement companies. So for example when registering your phone number on some casino website, I would assume that you definitely get more sales calls.So much for the anonymity =/

[yazher]

Looks like if that happens we have to sacrifice a little bit of our privacy to play our favorite casino and sport betting games. It's most likely unavoidable in the near future but its necessary while there are cons there are also pros. Because we might get insurance and protection against scam gambling sites.

It would happen in the future when the government has finally accepted Bitcoin as a means of payment, they will go for the Gambling site next time and any other industries that run cryptocurrency in their Country. Of course, there is some advantage when that happens because those fake investment scams will have a hard time running their company in the public and they will be asked for a permit just to run a mere scam.

[TrevorS]

However, at the same time, does this endanger users of such platforms without a license?

Obviously, yes. It's a double-edged sword because of those illegal activities.

The time you signed up and start playing endangered your information (such as: ip, device), because operating a casino that is not registered and without a valid license is illegal.

I dont see for ip or device reveal would be a big issue towards that matter since we can make use vpn or other service to hide it out if you are really keen towards your privacy aspects but
most of the time, users arent really that much of concern thats why i dont count this as a risk on playing online specially with crypto based platforms and as long you dont give out your
personal details then you are still good.For now we can still cherish out these good days with crypto gaming because of anonymity aspect.We can question out their legitimacy since majority
of them doesnt have license but just simply stick out to those who are commonly being used then you are still in the right platform.

In this case, casinos of this kind are a rather dangerous place to store money. It makes sense to keep there only small amounts and withdraw profit as often as possible.
It seems that crypto casinos are now some kind of "offshore zone", and in theory it can last a very long time.
It is difficult to regulate cryptocurrency, and the use of VPN complicates the blocking of sites by providers.
As always, cryptocurrency expands the possibilities for everyone who uses it. 

[Fredomago]

Looks like if that happens we have to sacrifice a little bit of our privacy to play our favorite casino and sport betting games.

No other option if you'll going to play online, if all the casino site will applied this requirement, complying is a must if you wanted to play.

It's most likely unavoidable in the near future but its necessary while there are cons there are also pros.

Legal entity is needed once everything being adopted, there's no way government will not interfere to make sure that government rules are strictly implemented from each gambling house.

Because we might get insurance and protection against scam gambling sites.

Might be the brighter side in case problem like this happened , the law have the claw to punished those scammers.

[travwill]

Looks like if that happens we have to sacrifice a little bit of our privacy to play our favorite casino and sport betting games. It's most likely unavoidable in the near future but its necessary while there are cons there are also pros. Because we might get insurance and protection against scam gambling sites.

It is extremely difficult to imagine exactly how it will be. After all, in order to make any claims to the site, you need to know its physical location or have an international authority to block Internet resources (which certainly will not happen in the near future). Otherwise, we will see locks only locally in each individual country. Otherwise, everything will be as before.
Regulation is unrealistic because no one is even technologically prepared for this globally.

[adamistraybar]

yes as long as places that offer gambling lsicense dont care and only care about money casinos bring in for them it wont change anytime soon and not muc goverments can do to stop t

[supine]

The Truth Behind Crypto and Online Gambling

Online gambling is, therefore, part of this bandwagon because internet proliferation has enabled cryptocurrencies to emerge as convenient payment avenues in this sector as hundreds of betting sites offer this option.

1-Eliminating payment headache
2- Anonymity is guaranteed
3-Minimal operation costs

I am very much concern with the bolded wordss so I like to ask your opinion on it.
We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

I think sooner or later we wouldn't be able to fully enjoy it anymore since some people are getting mad due to their kids gambling in this online sites without KYC and accepts minor because they couldn't filter their user well.
And they would be forced to do a KYC to continue on operating but I hope that this would never happen because not all of us like the idea of KYC or submitting our personal information's and I.D's.

[DoublerHunter]

I think sooner or later we wouldn't be able to fully enjoy it anymore since some people are getting mad due to their kids gambling in this online sites without KYC and accepts minor because they couldn't filter their user well.
And they would be forced to do a KYC to continue on operating but I hope that this would never happen because not all of us like the idea of KYC or submitting our personal information's and I.D's.

^ There is nothing we can do if all gambling casinos will be wanted to force us in having KYC just for the sake of all minors.
Even if it will required valid ID it will remain to be cheated by using or even buying other people's identities. So, that means become useless.
However, if KYC will be implemented in most gambling casinos, rest assured that there will be no more certain hackers or cheaters in all gambling aspects. They will probably afraid of being tracked their real identity and penalized by the authorities. Nevertheless, the anonymity contains pros and cons that we will be considered.

[chaser15]

Fully regulation doesn't mean gambling sites will have to mandatory required KYC. It's just for surpassing an account limit or those who are subject to investigation.

I'm sure gambling sites will remain on their current setup for several years to come. It's hard to believe right now that they will mandatorily ask for KYC, even in the future. It's useless to impose it if there's an account that just playing with a lower amount on each of their betting session.

fully regulation for me means that a gambling site will require kyc and implement more strict rules that removes anonimity   .

what we have on many gambling sites right now is partial regulation only because the kyc isnt mandatory  . kyc purpose isnt only for big or small amount but they can impose kyc because that is only the answer to know if what kind of people are playing on thier site or if what are thier age .  many fraudster and under age people are using a gambling site today  .

Fully regulation doesn't mean gambling sites will have to mandatory required KYC. It's just for surpassing an account limit or those who are subject to investigation.

I'm sure gambling sites will remain on their current setup for several years to come. It's hard to believe right now that they will mandatorily ask for KYC, even in the future. It's useless to impose it if there's an account that just playing with a lower amount on each of their betting session.

Minors are supposed to be not allowed to join the gambling activities.  This reason alone is enough to implement KYC to every player on the site.  That is when government fully regulates crypto casinos.  It is not how little or how big you wagered or deposit is.  It is about the legality of the player's age to do gambling activities.

Disagree with you both. Just look at some exchanges that heavily regulated. They don't require a mandatorily KYC unless for surpassing limits.

If that's the case in exchanges, which is more sensitive and lots of money around compare to gambling sites, except that it will have the same scenario when gambling sites now become regulated.

For age concern, how come a gambling site should monitor that. There are lots of ways to bypass it so that won't help. If the government is serious, put a heavy violation at those minors who will be caught doing online gambling. ISPs can track that. That is more effective as these minors will be afraid. It's totally non-sense for a gambling site to required KYC just to prove that the user is over 18. So uncomfortable for new users that will just play a small amount on the site or will just test how good the site is.

[teosanru]

This actually is a double edged sword and a very controversial question in cryptocurrency arena these days. On one side greater regulation would mean quick unfolding of scam but at the same time would mean revelation of your identity on casino. I think in longer term it's going to be difficult to not regulate casinos as authorities already feel casinos are a heaven for money launderers. I believe either all the casinos have to go to cayman islands and Operate from there or just get out of business. But even if they get registered anywhere authorities can still block such websites. I don't think we would be able to gamble without revealing identity in long term. It's a privilege enjoy it until you can.

[Ryker1]

For age concern, how come a gambling site should monitor that. There are lots of ways to bypass it so that won't help. If the government is serious, put a heavy violation at those minors who will be caught doing online gambling. ISPs can track that. That is more effective as these minors will be afraid. It's totally non-sense for a gambling site to required KYC just to prove that the user is over 18. [ So uncomfortable for new users that will just play a small amount on the site or will just test how good the site is. ]

Well, I agree and you have a point. Even me, I won't waste my time submitting KYC if I just want to test the gambling site of how does it work or even just for entertainment purpose with a small amount. Because it does not mean people who gambled are gamblers. If there are heavy violations once minor age will be caught, they had feared to gamble, and even their parents will guide and monitor them. In online gambling, we can't really sure who really is the player because as of now using internet is very easy. Even 7-8 years old can operate cellphone or laptop alone!

[Quidat]

For age concern, how come a gambling site should monitor that. There are lots of ways to bypass it so that won't help. If the government is serious, put a heavy violation at those minors who will be caught doing online gambling. ISPs can track that. That is more effective as these minors will be afraid. It's totally non-sense for a gambling site to required KYC just to prove that the user is over 18. [ So uncomfortable for new users that will just play a small amount on the site or will just test how good the site is. ]

Well, I agree and you have a point. Even me, I won't waste my time submitting KYC if I just want to test the gambling site of how does it work or even just for entertainment purpose with a small amount. Because it does not mean people who gambled are gamblers. If there are heavy violations once minor age will be caught, they had feared to gamble, and even their parents will guide and monitor them. In online gambling, we can't really sure who really is the player because as of now using internet is very easy. Even 7-8 years old can operate cellphone or laptop alone!

With easy access then its really hard to get rid of those minors that do deal up with gambling at a very young age and this is the cons of this new hi-tech era.So in this matter this do depend on the parenting already
on how they do deal with it and guide their siblings on not to deal with it.KYC thing do only fits out in traditional fiat casinos online but not for crypto ones.We havent seen KYC verification in most crypto gambling sites nowadays and yes they might be licensed but asking out user information isnt really part of that which is really a great thing and this is the reason on why this field or industry had boomed up due to anonymity.

[cabron]

If that's the way they would do it then submitting documents is a choice. If its mandatory then you have to submit especially if you have to withdraw your funds.

There are still ways to be anonymous. There are decentralize casinos offering complete anonymity where it only needs a wallet and you can already play. You can go over to the dappsradar list of gambling dapps. EOS alone has tons of these casinos which none of them ever ask an email.

[Vaculin]

If that's the way they would do it then submitting documents is a choice. If its mandatory then you have to submit especially if you have to withdraw your funds.

If we submit then we lose our privacy, there's no difference then from popular fiat casinos and I think people would choose fiat casinos in that matter as who knows, in the future they would also add crypto as part of the payment system.

There are still ways to be anonymous. There are decentralize casinos offering complete anonymity where it only needs a wallet and you can already play. You can go over to the dappsradar list of gambling dapps. EOS alone has tons of these casinos which none of them ever ask an email.

Hopefully they will not be covered by the laws once full implementation starts.

[STT]

So long as you gamble crypto not FIAT and dont pay in FIAT close to the source of depositing your crypto into a gambling site I dont see why theres a great worry about gambling in privacy.     Its only really when you start to gamble the notes with the presidents head on there the authorities want to get a cut of this real life money.   If its just some crypto token then what business is it of somebody outside that economy to be interfering in something with no fixed value, backed by no government or body and completely barter based in any market traded price.    You can gamble bananas if you feel like, are they going to send a swat squad because you win a hundred bananas lol, a religious based authoritarian regime then I can understand its their beliefs but otherwise no not really.

crypto will be regulated

Theres no reason it should be, it belongs to no country and theres no physical product or fixed promise of returns  to regulate.

[Maslate]

Here's some good read relating to crypto casinos and blockchian gaming.

BLOCKCHAIN GAMING DESERVES REGULATION CLARITY

Some does not want regulation but business operators wants regulation as it will give them security in the long run.

[Renampun]

Anonymity is no longer valid when the average gambling site asks email to register IMO...
In my experience, almost all gambling sites ask for email for registrants so that when you forget the password the account can be recovered but indirectly it makes your anonymity disappear, your email makes your identity open.

[Questat]

Here's some good read relating to crypto casinos and blockchian gaming.

BLOCKCHAIN GAMING DESERVES REGULATION CLARITY

Some does not want regulation but business operators wants regulation as it will give them security in the long run.

This explains a lot, the operators wants them to be regulated so they can operate with certainly and I'm sure they are already aware things that would change when they are already regulated.

It means they have to comply and if the government says everyone should follow the KYC for AMLA, then they should comply, or else they will lose the privilege to operate with a license.  I hope this casinos now is not something we will hate in the future due to regulation as it's already predicted, when the crypto industry will grow,  the govern will aim to have a cut for the revenue its making.

[Shasha80]

I am pessimistic that we can continue playing anonymous in gambling, because the number of gambling sites without KYC is decreasing.
The reason is to get the legality of online gambling must follow government regulations which must enforce KYC. Therefore many online
gambling is now illegal, and now many people are victims of fraud from illegal online gambling. Therefore there is a possibility that
all gambling will apply KYC for the security of its users, and if that happens anonymity in gambling is already don't exist anymore.

[maydna]

Anonymity is no longer valid when the average gambling site asks email to register IMO...
In my experience, almost all gambling sites ask for email for registrants so that when you forget the password the account can be recovered but indirectly it makes your anonymity disappear, your email makes your identity open.

Not really because I think we can still use email which doesn't require complete data from the user. Even if the email provider needs telephone number, we can use disposable telephone number

We can use random identity, or you can search for generator identity which available on the internet. There are many ways you can use to hide your identity for a browse on the internet or just want to use a fake identity.

But it will differ if the gambling websites need you to do KYC verification and ask you to send your document, that means, it will not hide your identity, and that can makes your identity open.

[ShowOff]

I am pessimistic that we can continue playing anonymous in gambling, because the number of gambling sites without KYC is decreasing.
The reason is to get the legality of online gambling must follow government regulations which must enforce KYC. Therefore many online
gambling is now illegal, and now many people are victims of fraud from illegal online gambling. Therefore there is a possibility that
all gambling will apply KYC for the security of its users, and if that happens anonymity in gambling is already don't exist anymore.

You dont need to be pessimistic because we never lack a site that can be used without verifying KYC. Site rules that require users to verify KYC can be regarded as one thing that can make their sites shunned by those who want anonymity for gambling activities. I believe that we will have these two choices and that will be the competition between each site.

[Ziskinberg]

Anonymity is no longer valid when the average gambling site asks email to register IMO...
In my experience, almost all gambling sites ask for email for registrants so that when you forget the password the account can be recovered but indirectly it makes your anonymity disappear, your email makes your identity open.

Not really because I think we can still use email which doesn't require complete data from the user. Even if the email provider needs telephone number, we can use disposable telephone number

We can use random identity, or you can search for generator identity which available on the internet. There are many ways you can use to hide your identity for a browse on the internet or just want to use a fake identity.

But it will differ if the gambling websites need you to do KYC verification and ask you to send your document, that means, it will not hide your identity, and that can makes your identity open.

That's the kind of liberty we are currently enjoying now, we have an email, and we are good to gamble, it's very simple and it seems like there is no security in our part as the only thing that binds is just an email address, if we are gambling like thousands of dollars, I think that is too risky.

But why people are still risking even with that reality?

it's because they know that the site itself can't risk their reputation as they will lose a lot of money.
In the forum alone, we can see a lot of gambling sites already having a scam accusation and slowly they loss their reputation.

[Janation]

Anonymity is no longer valid when the average gambling site asks email to register IMO...
In my experience, almost all gambling sites ask for email for registrants so that when you forget the password the account can be recovered but indirectly it makes your anonymity disappear, your email makes your identity open.

These emails though doesn't require you to put all of your information with it.

Also, you could make an email address that doesn't make sense at all so you would be able to maintain your anonymity. For example, you could use Iwantedtobeanonymous14@gmail.com so they will never know besides, you should just create a sole email for gambling and differentiate your other personal email addresses. It is that easy.

[aioc]

We all know that slowly the crypto casinos are getting regulated as we can't deny it's been growing and gamblers are slowly adopting to it.

What we are enjoy now is an "anonymous gambling" is very satisfying to us, but will it be in danger when the market is fully regulated?

Your thoughts please.

Big concerns to majority of online gamblers is when the day comes that majority of online gambling sites are regulated and ask for KYC, but there will always anonymous gambling sites and they will fight for their rules not to implement KYC, because this is one of the thing that attract gamblers anonymity and no KYC.

[leea-1334]

The answer is always yes,,, but it depends on the operators. Some guys do want to make a name for themselves and so they get a licensed business and then you have no choice but to comply with regulations. Other operators I see in this space still want to be anonymous yet they require kyc from users so I do not get that.

There is always a route to anonymity. It is whether we as gamblers demand it and if they as operators are willing to provide that protection.

[barbara44]

This is an excellent thread and the point you raised is truly brilliant!

The crypto gambling industry is blooming only because gamblers do not have to pay any taxes or don't have to even inform who they are despite winning any amount of money. I saw a few weeks or like a month ago there was a guy at stake named TheFinalizer and he won like 100 bitcoins or so. Now just imagine the same happening in a fiat casino and you would had to pay taxes and various other formalities. I am not accusing him that he is not paying the taxes but he is not liable to pay taxes and no one even knows who just won so much money.

Now talking about the long term, as bitcoins are getting more and more standard, I mean more industries are accepting it, surely with standardization will come legalization and very soon we might see the crypto casinos operating like the real fiat casinos and we would be asked to provide KYC.

[ampere]

I think anonymity in gambling is simply to some extent; for example, if you stick to gambling on bitcoin or crypto currency supported platforms; then you can remain anonymous as much as you want to be. But if you use an online gambling section where your inputs and outputs are in your local currency; anonymity is limited because if you are opportuned to earn huge millions; you would need to walk in to the head office for wirhdrawal. One thing comes to mind; is there anything secrecy about gambling ? that we have to worry about being anonymous.

[Maslate]

Here's some good read relating to crypto casinos and blockchian gaming.

BLOCKCHAIN GAMING DESERVES REGULATION CLARITY

Some does not want regulation but business operators wants regulation as it will give them security in the long run.

This explains a lot, the operators wants them to be regulated so they can operate with certainly and I'm sure they are already aware things that would change when they are already regulated.

It means they have to comply and if the government says everyone should follow the KYC for AMLA, then they should comply, or else they will lose the privilege to operate with a license.  I hope this casinos now is not something we will hate in the future due to regulation as it's already predicted, when the crypto industry will grow,  the govern will aim to have a cut for the revenue its making.

That's probably the scenario as we are all aware that our government is so strict when it comes to KYC compliance for financial transactions.
To my knowledge, there's no bank, exchanges, and even remittance centers that would allow you to transact with them anonymously, that's because they are regulated, they have their license from the government that would regulate them, same with cryto casinos so probably the same treatment as well.

[mu_enrico]

Well what about smart contract platforms like Degens where the bets are made directly with the blockchain? Is KYC legally required? It's a grey area when it comes to decentralized applications.

There will be anon sites even if KYC is mandatory, but like I said, even if the anon sites manage to function properly, what kind of games can be put in a smart-contract? Probably it's like EOS/TRON-based casinos at best. No music, no animation; it's like playing ATARI (if someone here still remembers) when the mainstream can enjoy Playstation 5. Sad...

[hulla]

After reading some posts on this thread i saw some people who yet to understand that the reason KYC was implemented by most crypto egambling site is the stance of the governments of the country where they operated in against crypto but the duties of gambling license master holders is to regulate and issue license to egambling company.
We have a case where some government have their own master license holder company but anonymity is always excluded but egambling that got their license from KYC free master license holder or country but request for KYC does that for their own security purpose.

Back the OP question, yes we can still enjoy anonymity in gambling but gamblers need to read the terms and conditions of gambling sites before using it.

[smyslov]

Anonymity is no longer valid when the average gambling site asks email to register IMO...
In my experience, almost all gambling sites ask for email for registrants so that when you forget the password the account can be recovered but indirectly it makes your anonymity disappear, your email makes your identity open.

You can create a new email specifically for a gambling site that you want to play, email providers are not asking KYC so I don't see any reason why giving your email will expose your identity, when you can create a pseudonym when creating an email, ans there are email that you can subscribe that can protect your identity, so no issue at all.

[bitcoinst]

Worst of all, when a casino without warning introduces an identification procedure and thereby forces users to disclose their data only in order to withdraw funds.
This is a tricky move that platforms that have financial difficulties often use.

That's called cheating I guess, unless it's written in the TOS, we can't complain on that.

All structures of this kind leave loopholes in agreements, as a rule, this is a disclaimer in case of unforeseen circumstances and force majeure. In addition, even if this is a hoax, there will be no one to complain, because the casino area is unregulated. This is about the same as with crypto exchanges, only worse. In the case of exchanges, you can often find their owners and put them in jail or try to return funds.

[justdimin]

I am pessimistic that we can continue playing anonymous in gambling, because the number of gambling sites without KYC is decreasing.
The reason is to get the legality of online gambling must follow government regulations which must enforce KYC. Therefore many online
gambling is now illegal, and now many people are victims of fraud from illegal online gambling. Therefore there is a possibility that
all gambling will apply KYC for the security of its users, and if that happens anonymity in gambling is already don't exist anymore.

That might be true but if anonymity is sucked out of the crypto gambling industry than it would be pretty useless.
There are mainly 2 reason why I believe crypto casinos are as popular that are as follows:
1- Anonymity
2- Provably Fair games

Now you remove the biggest pillar that is anonymity than there is nothing unique left about gambling and people would rather prefer to bet with bet365 than a crypto casino, I am being harsh but honest.

People who gamble legally are usually the ones who gamble on williamhill, bet365 and similar websites while certain countries that prohibit gambling, users from those countries have found a new lifeline into gambling with bitcoins and crypto.

[TrevorS]

I think anonymity in gambling is simply to some extent; for example, if you stick to gambling on bitcoin or crypto currency supported platforms; then you can remain anonymous as much as you want to be. But if you use an online gambling section where your inputs and outputs are in your local currency; anonymity is limited because if you are opportuned to earn huge millions; you would need to walk in to the head office for wirhdrawal. One thing comes to mind; is there anything secrecy about gambling ? that we have to worry about being anonymous.

What kind of secret do you mean?
If you win millions, it is obvious that you should worry about your anonymity even if your money is clean.
It is not known who is the creator of most online casinos; there is also no regulation in them, which means that in the event of a database drain, there will be no one to complain about.
It is known that even Facebook collects statistics on users and sells it to corporations. Imagine how many statistics of users of online casinos. Based on these metrics, high-class online casinos are created.

[matchi2011]

I think anonymity in gambling is simply to some extent; for example, if you stick to gambling on bitcoin or crypto currency supported platforms; then you can remain anonymous as much as you want to be. But if you use an online gambling section where your inputs and outputs are in your local currency; anonymity is limited because if you are opportuned to earn huge millions; you would need to walk in to the head office for wirhdrawal. One thing comes to mind; is there anything secrecy about gambling ? that we have to worry about being anonymous.

There are also crypto gambling sites who are now asking for KYC, mostly once you win a huge amount of money.
Crypto casino sites are also requiring gamblers to provide KYC info before allowing to withdraw huge amount of
winnings, it's not just the fiat based casinos but also happening inside crypto businesses.

[electronicash]

If the market is fully regulated then I think this industry might fall, because so far online gambling is very supportive about anonymous and at least that is the reason why traditional gamblers turn to online gambling at least to be able to take advantage of the features of anonymity itself. But I personally believe online gambling will have a long time to remain anonymous, because even online gambling itself continues to grow from time to time despite opposition from other parties or even from the government itself.

its a money making business i don't think all of them will ask kyc because it will definitely scare away the guys who kept their names known to anyone. its why they are here in cryptocurrency so they can have privacy. if the crypto casinos are all going to be regulated that they mandate us to submit docs for withdrawing 0.1 BTC, gamblers will look for other dapps that don't asks for kyc. they'd feel it when a sudden decline of number of deposits to them.

[travwill]

If the market is fully regulated then I think this industry might fall, because so far online gambling is very supportive about anonymous and at least that is the reason why traditional gamblers turn to online gambling at least to be able to take advantage of the features of anonymity itself. But I personally believe online gambling will have a long time to remain anonymous, because even online gambling itself continues to grow from time to time despite opposition from other parties or even from the government itself.

Not necessary. Poker and poker rooms have long been adjustable because they use fiat funds, however, this does not scare away the players and they go through the identification process without problems to play it.
Most likely, the market will undergo a restructuring, and instead of dozens of casinos we will see only a few but large ones.

[maydna]

~snip~

That's the kind of liberty we are currently enjoying now, we have an email, and we are good to gamble, it's very simple and it seems like there is no security in our part as the only thing that binds is just an email address, if we are gambling like thousands of dollars, I think that is too risky.

But why people are still risking even with that reality?

it's because they know that the site itself can't risk their reputation as they will lose a lot of money.
In the forum alone, we can see a lot of gambling sites already having a scam accusation and slowly they loss their reputation.

People always want to make more money, and that is why they still risking their money to get more money by playing gambling. They know about the risk, but they don't mind spending more money. It is natural because we are not satisfied with what we already got, so we still do again and again.

The websites themselves always try to protect their members from any bad thing that can happen. They will not let their reputation ruined because a little problem because that can make their members leave them. But yes, many gambling sites already scam people and run their money, and that makes the members sad.