Bitcasino.io 171btc winner discussion

[StonerStanley]

As a old school (gentle) hacker and working in the video games industry and security, i can tell you that Bitcasino should and must show to everybody here what is the exploit/cheat, otherwise they are big liars and scammers  Zero doubt about that.

Explain us how he could have hacked your slot machine right now by using a client-side vulnerability ? let me laugh hard That smell the scam or the very very very low-developpers (it's very hard to be stupid enough to let a client-side vulnerability/hpp vulnerability in a casino game)

It's not because this dude cheated somewhere in the past that he started over again.

Ok. tell me like I don't know shit, how this guy cheated slot machine?

If the issue still exists (seems like it does) they should first shut the game or all affected games down and fix it. Otherwise the alleged hacker can come back with more convincing KYC and perhaps a smaller less suspicious win, or publish the exploit, or do something else that's not very pleasant. Publishing an explanation is a bit tricky - might disclose more about their backend than they would want the public to know.

It's not  

Bitcasino, we are waiting for an explanation. Because i repeat:  it's very hard to be stupid enough to let a client-side vulnerability/hpp vulnerability in a casino game.

Not a lot of people know the security, but i do. So i'm waiting an explanation.

You all people could ask to any security engineer, he/she will tell you that this smell the scam or the very low developper (at a point where you should avoid this casino) we make a bet ?


In the "commonly programmed" online casino games, the players inputs and their results in terme of action are 100% deterministic (not the game slot results but the actions), which make it impossible to cheat without infiltrating the server and modifying the code.

So i'm clearly waiting for explanation.

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[coinlocket$]

Ok. tell me like I don't know shit, how this guy cheated slot machine?

If the issue still exists (seems like it does) they should first shut the game or all affected games down and fix it. Otherwise the alleged hacker can come back with more convincing KYC and perhaps a smaller less suspicious win, or publish the exploit, or do something else that's not very pleasant. Publishing an explanation is a bit tricky - might disclose more about their backend than they would want the public to know.

Exactly also since the Op seems who has told lies for me the problem just does not exist and does not deserve more time IF he cannot prove the transaction , as he said here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260506.msg54753858#msg54753858

Archive: http://archive.is/wip/WojUW

i removed the video and must not comment more on this thread
i have agreed a settlment with bitcasino.io they have agreed to pay 48 bitcoins (4 per week for 12 weeks)
and i confirm i just received my first 4 bitcoins

please lock the thread

If you look at the blockchain there is no track of a 4BTC transaction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260832.msg54755309#msg54755309
(I hope they give me the correct time)
So if the transaction is not existing you should don't even read what the user is writing since they can be all lies.


About the security of games, I know nothing about it so I will not say anything.

[LAngel]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

[LoyceMobile]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

Quoting just in case you delete it again.

[LAngel]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

Quoting just in case you delete it again.

doesnt matter, i believe netent have now finally fixed this after quite a few years

[alani123]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

So now you're admitting to cheating, which confirms Bitcasino's claim, but only partly, because the big win was allegedly legitimate.

This keeps getting weirder and there's even more questions to ask after this post...
Most importantly, what about the settlement? Whose part of the story is true? Because it can't be that both sides are true.
Bitcasino claims there's no settlement while you have nothing more to say on the matter?

[coinlocket$]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

So you stolen money from the Casino, maybe even withdraw 25 BTC reading the other thread while cheating one game.

After that maybe when you were still cheating that game you did something else to compromise the second game and overwrite bugs across games, maybe with 2 windows opened?
(Again IDK how it can works)

Can you post the 4BTC transaction done today?

[LAngel]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

So now you're admitting to cheating, which confirms Bitcasino's claim, but only partly, because the big win was allegedly legitimate.

This keeps getting weirder and there's even more questions to ask after this post...
Most importantly, what about the settlement? Whose part of the story is true? Because it can't be that both sides are true.
Bitcasino claims there's no settlement while you have nothing more to say on the matter?

there was no settlement. i woke up and wrote some nonsense earlier, i havent taken my pills.
But yes, i repeat on my mothers life, that dawn of olympus 171 btc from a 30 mbtc bet was 100000% legit and real.
so i *WISH* i had not previously cheated at koi princess with the discussed method above.
that is all.

[LoyceMobile]

there was no settlement. i woke up and wrote some nonsense earlier, i havent taken my pills.
But yes, i repeat on my mothers life, that dawn of olympus 171 btc from a 30 mbtc bet was 100000% legit and real.
so i *WISH* i had not previously cheated at koi princess with the discussed method above.
that is all.

Quoting again as evidence of admitting you lied.

[StonerStanley]

I don't want to be harsh but people like who aren't security engineer or don't know anything about security, shouldn't tell to people what Bitcasino can tell or not in this situation. They are probably lying about the cheat in Dawn of Olympus. Do you know how we are creating a game and how we synchronise it with a server ? obviously not.

I repeat:

In the "commonly programmed" online casino games, the players inputs and their results in terme of action are 100% deterministic (not the game slot results but the actions), which make it impossible to cheat without infiltrating the server and modifying the code.

So i'm clearly waiting for an explanation (even if i don't care personally because i don't play casino games, it could be interesting to know why they lied)


This is a big mistake from Bitcasino. People should avoid this kind of plateforms developped by unknown persons who have clearly zero skill in security but who play with your money. Next you gonna cry because this plateform has been hacked or just a scam.

I think they are liars, even if this dude cheated in another game in the past.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

there was no settlement. i woke up and wrote some nonsense earlier, i havent taken my pills.

doesnt matter, i believe netent have now finally fixed this after quite a few years

This is getting more & more fucking ridiculous as it goes on. This guy is a cheating cunt!
Wonder how many times he’s scammed other places for big money over the years & got away with it, disgusting.
Look at his post there (netent fixed it after a few years? How many times has he successfully scammed that game?)

[alani123]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

So now you're admitting to cheating, which confirms Bitcasino's claim, but only partly, because the big win was allegedly legitimate.

This keeps getting weirder and there's even more questions to ask after this post...
Most importantly, what about the settlement? Whose part of the story is true? Because it can't be that both sides are true.
Bitcasino claims there's no settlement while you have nothing more to say on the matter?

there was no settlement. i woke up and wrote some nonsense earlier, i havent taken my pills.
But yes, i repeat on my mothers life, that dawn of olympus 171 btc from a 30 mbtc bet was 100000% legit and real.
so i *WISH* i had not previously cheated at koi princess with the discussed method above.
that is all.

Oh boy...
The entire forum was ready to eat up your claims and some hours later, here you are incriminating yourself; quite literally admitting that you're a liar and a cheat.
You're now just saying that you're not as much of a cheat as they accuse you of being. Well, sadly for you, unless the casino willingly open up their logs, there's no way to prove if your big bet was legitimate or not.
But given that vulnerabilities you exploited might have not been imminently obvious to them in the first place too, it might be that even this can not be trusted as well.

I now understand why you said anything about a settlement.
It would have been part of a wild dream to willingly submit your funds to a casino and expect the house maker to pay out.
Especially to expect them to pay out after they discovered you cheated!

You know what, even if your big bet was legit, its murky water to come to a judgment if the casino should pay out anything if they had been cheated prior. They're in possession of your initial funds and some might argue that it would be fairer for them to keep them too. And if you had made exploitative withdrawals from them before, the only logical defense they have now would be to keep any funds you had left there.

[StonerStanley]

there was no settlement. i woke up and wrote some nonsense earlier, i havent taken my pills.

doesnt matter, i believe netent have now finally fixed this after quite a few years

This is getting more & more fucking ridiculous as it goes on. This guy is a cheating cunt!
Wonder how many times he’s scammed other places for big money over the years & got away with it, disgusting.
Look at his post there (netent fixed it after a few years? How many times has he successfully scammed that game?)

Cheating is clearly bad and he doesn't deserve his money back (at least for the first game he cheated, but i doubt that Olympian Gods is vulnerable... explain me how it's possible technically)

That doesn't change the rest, what if he would have been a legit player ?

Why the game is still online (it's the right game ?) https://bitcasino.io/fr/casino/video-slots/olympian-gods

This kind of plateform are the reason why a lot of people are scared about cryptocurrencies. A cheater can take your money and the developpers don't give a fuck about the security of their games/plateforms because
they are here only for your money (but as i said there is probably no vulnerability in olympian gods because the game sync is full deterministic... )

[mindrust]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

Daym this took me back in time when me and my buddies were trying to find game glitches this way. (trial and error)

When the game's logic gets over-complicated, there happens to be some unintended but "legit"* ways to cheat the game.

I guess what you did was similar to this. (unless you are not lying again)

*It was legit since you did not use any external tools. You only used the games faulty logic against it. (of course that doesn't mean you deserved to get paid, not legit in that way)


Bitcasino painted you as a genius.

Made a TLDR version of bitcasino's post.

...LAngel’s winnings are not legitimate and are a result of fraudulently manipulating GameArt’s Dawn of Olympus.

This is not the first encounter we’ve had with this person and this was made crystal clear when we uncovered a 100% match to a previous user
who had been investigated and subsequently blocked for tampering with games.
We use a wide array of industry-leading detection tools, 100% across them is unambiguously a match.

Previously, this user managed to extract a large amount of BTC from ourselves and also hit a few other crypto casinos in a very similar manner.
For this reason this person is widely known to ourselves, other crypto casinos and at least GameArt, if not other game providers.
...
Given the 100% match, our fraud team’s extensive findings supported by GameArt’s investigation and the history we have with this user
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.
...
There are plenty of red flags that can be seen in the original thread, from the YouTube video to now being private to the very fact that the
user has been withdrawing 25BTC over the past few days - something which has already been noted by Bitcointalk members.

These parts carry some important data.

Now... who's lying?

[cabincrew]

Having reading both sides of the story. I think there's something bitcasino and LAngel needs to clarify:

bitcasino:
As others have pointed out, why not shut down the game and fix it if this is not your first encounter with this person? Or block his address/go legal if you are 100% sure it was the same person exploiting your site before?

LAngel:
Before you post your 4btc tx record no one will believe you

[Krislaw]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

Daym this took me back in time when me and my buddies were trying to find game glitches this way. (trial and error)

When the game's logic gets over-complicated, there happens to be some unintended but "legit"* ways to cheat the game.

I guess what you did was similar to this. (unless you are not lying again)

*It was legit since you did not use any external tools. You only used the games faulty logic against it. (of course that doesn't mean you deserved to get paid, not legit in that way)

You're right about, if a user finds a glitch, he can use it to his own gain, and maybe get away with it if possible, the responsibility is on the website for allowing such to happen. It's just that the winning is from a user known to have used their glitches against them.
But in this case, LAngel can't allowed because he's been accused of cheating, I don't know if it's through external tools.

Bitcasino painted you as a genius.

Made a TLDR version of bitcasino's post.

...LAngel’s winnings are not legitimate and are a result of fraudulently manipulating GameArt’s Dawn of Olympus.

This is not the first encounter we’ve had with this person and this was made crystal clear when we uncovered a 100% match to a previous user
who had been investigated and subsequently blocked for tampering with games.
We use a wide array of industry-leading detection tools, 100% across them is unambiguously a match.

Previously, this user managed to extract a large amount of BTC from ourselves and also hit a few other crypto casinos in a very similar manner.
For this reason this person is widely known to ourselves, other crypto casinos and at least GameArt, if not other game providers.
...
Given the 100% match, our fraud team’s extensive findings supported by GameArt’s investigation and the history we have with this user
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.
...
There are plenty of red flags that can be seen in the original thread, from the YouTube video to now being private to the very fact that the
user has been withdrawing 25BTC over the past few days - something which has already been noted by Bitcointalk members.

These parts carry some important data.

Now... who's lying?

I guess both parties aren't saying something about this whole thing.
This user's IP should have been banned since they noticed he extracted some huge amounts of BTC and also have the game providers fix the glitches.

[cabincrew]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

Daym this took me back in time when me and my buddies were trying to find game glitches this way. (trial and error)

When the game's logic gets over-complicated, there happens to be some unintended but "legit"* ways to cheat the game.

I guess what you did was similar to this. (unless you are not lying again)

*It was legit since you did not use any external tools. You only used the games faulty logic against it. (of course that doesn't mean you deserved to get paid, not legit in that way)

You're right about, if a user finds a glitch, he can use it to his own gain, and maybe get away with it if possible, the responsibility is on the website for allowing such to happen. It's just that the winning is from a user known to have used their glitches against them.
But in this case, LAngel can't allowed because he's been accused of cheating, I don't know if it's through external tools.

Bitcasino painted you as a genius.

Made a TLDR version of bitcasino's post.

...LAngel?s winnings are not legitimate and are a result of fraudulently manipulating GameArt?s Dawn of Olympus.

This is not the first encounter we?ve had with this person and this was made crystal clear when we uncovered a 100% match to a previous user
who had been investigated and subsequently blocked for tampering with games.
We use a wide array of industry-leading detection tools, 100% across them is unambiguously a match.

Previously, this user managed to extract a large amount of BTC from ourselves and also hit a few other crypto casinos in a very similar manner.
For this reason this person is widely known to ourselves, other crypto casinos and at least GameArt, if not other game providers.
...
Given the 100% match, our fraud team?s extensive findings supported by GameArt?s investigation and the history we have with this user
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.
...
There are plenty of red flags that can be seen in the original thread, from the YouTube video to now being private to the very fact that the
user has been withdrawing 25BTC over the past few days - something which has already been noted by Bitcointalk members.

These parts carry some important data.

Now... who's lying?

I guess both parties aren't saying something about this whole thing.
This user's IP should have been banned since they noticed he extracted some huge amounts of BTC and also have the game providers fix the glitches.

Agreed both parties are not telling the full picture. Banning IP is useless you can also use VPNs.

[cwil]

anyone wondering how the cheat worked, it wasnt hacking at all.
it was the koi princess slot by netent i cheated at, NOT dawn of olympus. like i said before, that 171 btc win WAS REAL.
but i was playing with money won on koi princess.
there was a cheat where if you activate bonus bet, and spin until you get the 5-hit fish bonus, and immediately restart the game before stopping the symbol selector whee, your session will continue as if you had the bonus bet on (extra bonus chance) but not have to pay double for spins anymore that entire session.
even bitcasino account are welcome to confirm, did i not, have a big win on koi princess prior to my olympus REAL win?

So now you're admitting to cheating, which confirms Bitcasino's claim, but only partly, because the big win was allegedly legitimate.

This keeps getting weirder and there's even more questions to ask after this post...
Most importantly, what about the settlement? Whose part of the story is true? Because it can't be that both sides are true.
Bitcasino claims there's no settlement while you have nothing more to say on the matter?

there was no settlement. i woke up and wrote some nonsense earlier, i havent taken my pills.
But yes, i repeat on my mothers life, that dawn of olympus 171 btc from a 30 mbtc bet was 100000% legit and real.
so i *WISH* i had not previously cheated at koi princess with the discussed method above.
that is all.

I think it's interesting that the entire GameArt lineup including Dawn of Olympus is available to play on multiple casinos, while every NetEnt offering seems to have disappeared. I think you're being honest.

I also think you need to learn to stfu. Disclose vulnerabilities responsibly and negotiate a fair reward, or keep it to yourself and don't draw attention. Talking about this in a public forum is a great way to piss off just about everyone.

[SyGambler]

would really love to see bitcasino describing how such cheats happen even some people here tried to explain it but just to make sure ( as long as it doesn't still represent a risk for future possible attacks )
in the last 9 months I have seen two dapps getting attacked by hackes ( wink and betfury ) and hackers were able to get good amount of money since they were processing withdrawals automatically with no checks

I still remember the night when wink lost over 30 million TRX to a hacker but no more details were given to users even they are a revenue sharing website which means the money that the site loses is technically users' money as well

[hacker1001101001]

LAngel is not as legitimately lucky as would have you believe.

Transaction 1 where 0.483 BTC is moved to 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
68c63caf998c3e84f342caa988d1e439f8cd78174aa389185b3e4a06f0ecf27b

-snip-

Transaction 6 where inputs 1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ and 1JkAF2owb3QgXG1UN53yREFvogTWeLs1TZ fund a deposit of 0.5 BTC to a players deposit address 38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT within Casino Operator 2 52777ed072b6fdd1c3cbb8b14ce7fb37556d302a0e9eaa64e801731c8b92fcb3

The above combination transactions prove that the addresses involved are in possession of a single entity responsible of the deposits to
Bitcasino Account 1, Account 2 and also to Casino Operator 1 and Casino Operator 2.

Collection of the entity’s mentioned addresses:

14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2
1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD
1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ

Account 1 Bitcasino deposit address:
3G4r8XMKgvKFq3M29kNuV9RE6kvq7eY5Qh
Account 2 Bitcasino deposit address:
3Bn9pecZA6r3Z1bCYdh4GV5tM3DYXxMhzF
Casino Operator 1 deposit address:
1BnqgnQFVpevz7idhBHpdD2Axy7L9ZC42U
Casino Operator 2 deposit address:
38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT

-snip-

Given the 100% match, our fraud team’s extensive findings supported by GameArt’s investigation and the history we have with this user
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.

How does above info prove that LAngle specifically exploited or cheated the particular game ? Your explanation mergly proves that he had multiple accounts on your casino and was also active on other casino's, nothing much.

On the other hand, LAngle is firm that he didn't cheated 'dawn of olympus' game where he won the huge amount.

If GameArt's slots are insecure, why haven't they released a statement regarding this? GameArt slots are quite popular across a lot of different sites so I find it hard to believe their slots had an issue like this.

"No system is 100% secure," I think I've read this on someone's personal text.

It was me.