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July 09, 2020, 08:03:16 PM
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I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.

You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.

As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.

There is nothing needed to say if you choose the first three. If you fortunately and bravely to choose the last one, and want to go as good members the next thing you have to do is choosing the area you have interests in. It is important because you will more easily spend more time for that, and you will feel more comfortable to do so. It is your interests so your works with it will bring lots of fun back to you.

I chose to focus my time on the forum with security and privacy and wallet's features and usages. You can see it in my first thread I created to ask about Brave browser - What's wrong with Brave browser?. Unfortunately, because of privacy problems I stopped using the browser months ago.

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If you are newbies, now choose your journey and your interested areas you want to go with.

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July 09, 2020, 08:27:49 PM
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Well, you are right and as I have observed recently, most newbies are spammers they are spam their referral links in the forum and using different accounts to post on the topic aside from the OP. They deserve to get a reward, all of them have been nuked.
Perhaps there are additional options aside from what you gave in the newbie's journey, --[1] -Fraud victim asking for help and [2] -For business purpose establishing ANN thread. Not all newbies are here just to be a good member, there are various reasons why they are here and indeed, the most common reason was already you have stated.
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July 09, 2020, 08:41:20 PM
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 if they choose the fourth -good member- and not having the enthusiasm to spare head it, can leave them in the remaining three especially the second -spammers-
In a short summary, -newbies- work and the rest is history

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July 09, 2020, 08:48:51 PM
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As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.


I don't think that new members explicitly choose to be spammers or bounty hunters instead of being good members, and as for scammers, those people aren't actually newbies, they probably have dozens of other accounts, some maybe even with higher ranks.

Some users who started as shitposters eventually changed their ways and became very valuable users, this is because when you posts are good, they will get merited without people going through your post history to check if you are worthy.


You shouldn't encourage newbies to earn merit via creating educational topic posts, because they are newbies, they will often fail to do so properly and will only introduce misconceptions.
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July 09, 2020, 09:58:03 PM
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As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.
Spam is usually a direct result of the first; bounty hunting especially when it's done with no regard for the forum; enlisting multiple accounts and posting simply to fulfil your post count can cause a serious spam problem as is seen in some boards.
The position one takes is really down to how the forum was presented to them when they learnt about it and also how much they are willing to read and gain knowledge.
• If one is sold the idea that the forum is a gold mine for easy cash, and by joining an ICO bounty campaign one can get a token that will go ×10 when listed, they will likely focus on bounties and could get lost in those sections.
• if a user who has an interest in reading and learning is sold the same idea, they could start off as a bounty spammer, but after gaining a little knowledge about the forum and Bitcoin, they'll likely want to learn more, this will expose them to more boards and they will eventually start contributing quality content.

Forum members would likely transition through various stages. Scammers however, could be bounty hunters, spammers or even high quality posters, and are usually unrepentant.

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July 09, 2020, 10:35:06 PM
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As beginners they will choose their destination to become a bounty hunter, because what they know is that Bounty will produce more with many projects that can be followed. and some bounty hunters will become spammers who will brutally carry out all bounty tasks.

The choice is indeed in their hands. But being a good member will have a more positive impact to be able to achieve a high Rank and be able to participate in the BTC Signature Campaign which has more potential to pay consistently. At the moment I am also focused on developing my account and becoming a good and useful member of this forum.

 
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July 09, 2020, 11:18:47 PM
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I rarely see someone really new on this forum, even rarer to find a new guy who acts like a normal member to learn about Bitcoin. Most of the newbie on this forum is not really new, they are newbie because they did not earn one merit, but they have been too old in this space for a long time, or with a lot of accounts.
Newbies are not really participating in the bounty campaign, instead, they will ask a few questions about how to make money, activities, ... and not posting the correct section. Also not appear in the bitcoin discussion section for spam  Cheesy
I also think that bounty hunters and scammers are often the same, they go the same way, they cheat

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I wouldn't put bounty hunters & spammers in the same pool with scammers. I would expect very new members to believe BitcoinTalk is a literal job and a way to get a Bitcoin in no time, just as I probably thought when I first registered on here. Even for older bounty hunters the reason why they aren't seen as normal/good members on here is still a question mark.

There are some unwritten "rules" of being accepted in this community as a good member, such as having to read at least a part of the replies before actually replying to the thread. Many members expect that. I bet a lot of the newbies don't even read OPs besides the title, let alone all the other replies to know what's been said yet and what hasn't. This is something even I had an issue with for a long time.

Guess it all goes down to the way each member spends their time on here. If one spends most of their time truly interested in replying to others and actively participating in the forum, they'll be seen as a "good member". I don't mind someone desperately looking for more and more bounties unless they literally throw their shitposts everywhere and fill up the forum with nonsense.
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July 10, 2020, 12:13:29 AM
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Everyone has the right to choose their own path in the forum and will never be forced. Being a good member who contributes is a choice and those are things that are highly recommended by the forum and users because that will make us individual who have benefit for the forum and users. There arent many people who want to reward spammer or users who have low quality posts with something like merit and that will prevent them from going up in rank "if their rank is still low".

I would never agree if all those bounty hunter are spammer, because I can also find them as good quality poster that also contribute. But many of the bounty hunter are spammer who in turn are those who post lots of low quality and useless thing. Theres nothing good besides contributing and obeying forum rules, and being a spammer will only make the forum full of junk.

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July 10, 2020, 12:37:35 AM
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As beginners they will choose their destination to become a bounty hunter, because what they know is that Bounty will produce more with many projects that can be followed. and some bounty hunters will become spammers who will brutally carry out all bounty tasks.
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For sure this kind of decision was only common when there are a lot already using bitcointalk to some campaign of cryptocurrency projects like altcoins who starting their ICO in this forum, but for sure way back 2010 - 2015 maybe, those time is only for Bitcoin knowledge that wants a newbie need, since way back being a bounty hunter is still not so popular.

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July 10, 2020, 01:18:39 AM
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Almost every Newbie is here to earn money through Bounties. Earning in bounties is not that good nowadays therefore they resort to spamming and when they get caught and get banned they would create a new ID to scam other members.

Eventually, they would again get banned. If a newbie is here to learn then they would never think about the bounty first. Their primary goal would be to understand the technology and learn as much as they can.

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I like how you separate the other 3 from good members. My favorite type of member is the Builder. Someone who creates something, the more innovative and existent on the blockchain the better.

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July 10, 2020, 03:09:15 AM
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As beginners they will choose their destination to become a bounty hunter, because what they know is that Bounty will produce more with many projects that can be followed. and some bounty hunters will become spammers who will brutally carry out all bounty tasks.

The choice is indeed in their hands. But being a good member will have a more positive impact to be able to achieve a high Rank and be able to participate in the BTC Signature Campaign which has more potential to pay consistently. At the moment I am also focused on developing my account and becoming a good and useful member of this forum.

Many will come here to earn at first, unlike before we go here to gain knowledge about bitcoin as its community been a good place to share thoughts and ideas about new discoveries and related crypto websites or products that been known in crypto. But since many know that we were able to earn from here before many take it as an advantage to do bounty hunting thru spamming, hopefully newbies not here to scam. Those who do scam maybe are already here even before and see it as a room to do their bad intentions. Newbies and truly beginners here in forum should be more observant than ever.

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July 10, 2020, 03:33:50 AM
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Many will come here to earn at first, unlike before we go here to gain knowledge about bitcoin as its community been a good place to share thoughts and ideas about new discoveries and related crypto websites or products that been known in crypto.
Basically forum and users never prohibit anyone from earning money here because this forum is intended to discuss about bitcoin as well as a place to promote product, sites or platforms, especially with bounty program or signature campaign. Its just that many bounty participant ignore things that can make them better because they are too focused on earning income so they dont seem to care about the quality and function of the forum as a place to get knowledge.

I think if they can make these two things balanced then there wont be a problem to solve. Getting income from promoting sites on the "signature campaign" forum can also be categorized as a form of bonus for those who contribute. But in reality we can see that there are very many bounty participant who are signature spammer on various board and that is totally useless for forum and users. There is a wrong perception about them and that must be able to change and start learning to be a good user.

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Well, you are right and as I have observed recently, most newbies are spammers they are spam their referral links in the forum and using different accounts to post on the topic aside from the OP. They deserve to get a reward, all of them have been nuked.
Such ones choose to use the forum in the shady and negative ways. Let they be what they want to be.
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Perhaps there are additional options aside from what you gave in the newbie's journey, --[1] -Fraud victim asking for help and [2] -For business purpose establishing ANN thread. Not all newbies are here just to be a good member, there are various reasons why they are here and indeed, the most common reason was already you have stated.
Fraud victims and crypto entrepreneurs are truly good members (if they don't start a project to scam). Their projects can be successfully or failed, but their contributions, their projects help the crypto to be spread wider globally.
if they choose the fourth -good member- and not having the enthusiasm to spare head it, can leave them in the remaining three especially the second -spammers-
In a short summary, -newbies- work and the rest is history
If they want to be good, and start their works, don't give up, they will become good members definitely. I don't see why they will become spammers.
I don't think that new members explicitly choose to be spammers or bounty hunters instead of being good members, and as for scammers, those people aren't actually newbies, they probably have dozens of other accounts, some maybe even with higher ranks.

Some users who started as shitposters eventually changed their ways and became very valuable users, this is because when you posts are good, they will get merited without people going through your post history to check if you are worthy.
Scammers can be experienced scammers or newbie scammers. Newbie good members, newbie scammers like so. Shitposters and scammers can change to be good members, I agree with you on this opinion. However, scammers don't change to be good members. They love the ways the live as scammers and love the way the earn money by scam the others.
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You shouldn't encourage newbies to earn merit via creating educational topic posts, because they are newbies, they will often fail to do so properly and will only introduce misconceptions.
No. I don't encourage anyone. If you check my threads, some of them are simply questions when I needed help for my needs. Some questions are truly come from newbies. Anyhow, you nailed a point that newbies don't need to replicate anyone else. Just choose the things they like, have interests in and keep up their good works on such.
Spam is usually a direct result of the first; bounty hunting especially when it's done with no regard for the forum; enlisting multiple accounts and posting simply to fulfil your post count can cause a serious spam problem as is seen in some boards.
The position one takes is really down to how the forum was presented to them when they learnt about it and also how much they are willing to read and gain knowledge.
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Forum members would likely transition through various stages. Scammers however, could be bounty hunters, spammers or even high quality posters, and are usually unrepentant.
There are many different reasons why members join the forum and spam. People can change from bad to good but not all of them will change like that. Indeed, very small percent of them will change positively like that.
The choice is indeed in their hands. But being a good member will have a more positive impact to be able to achieve a high Rank and be able to participate in the BTC Signature Campaign which has more potential to pay consistently. At the moment I am also focused on developing my account and becoming a good and useful member of this forum.
Knowledge is what most important good members will get from their good works. What are good works? Such works can contribute good information, are helpful and users will spend decent times and efforts to build up their good works. From such journey, they learn more. After that, other members will contribute and somehow help them to learn more. More knowledge will be gotten for good members.
I rarely see someone really new on this forum, even rarer to find a new guy who acts like a normal member to learn about Bitcoin.
Likely similar as people who consider themselves as bitcoin investors but don't know any basic about bitcoin. Some consider themselves as bitcoin enthusiasts but don't know how to install and use a bitcoin wallet. What they care indeed is money.
I wouldn't put bounty hunters & spammers in the same pool with scammers. I would expect very new members to believe BitcoinTalk is a literal job and a way to get a Bitcoin in no time, just as I probably thought when I first registered on here. Even for older bounty hunters the reason why they aren't seen as normal/good members on here is still a question mark.
I put them into different groups but there are some of users will do multitasks: scam, spam, bounty hunt. Your other words are true, I agree.
Everyone has the right to choose their own path in the forum and will never be forced. Being a good member who contributes is a choice and those are things that are highly recommended by the forum and users because that will make us individual who have benefit for the forum and users.
Totally true. Your destiny is on your hands, your mind and your decisions.
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I would never agree if all those bounty hunter are spammer, because I can also find them as good quality poster that also contribute. But many of the bounty hunter are spammer who in turn are those who post lots of low quality and useless thing.
You are right but most of bounty hunters are spammers. I guess 80% of bounty hunters are spammers.
For sure this kind of decision was only common when there are a lot already using bitcointalk to some campaign of cryptocurrency projects like altcoins who starting their ICO in this forum, but for sure way back 2010 - 2015 maybe, those time is only for Bitcoin knowledge that wants a newbie need, since way back being a bounty hunter is still not so popular.
I don't know because I was not here in 2010 or 2015.
Almost every Newbie is here to earn money through Bounties. Earning in bounties is not that good nowadays therefore they resort to spamming and when they get caught and get banned they would create a new ID to scam other members.
Good earnings from bounties or bad earnings, it does not matter. You can earn thousands of dollars from bounties but you won't get any far and wont' get rich with it.
I like how you separate the other 3 from good members. My favorite type of member is the Builder. Someone who creates something, the more innovative and existent on the blockchain the better.
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July 10, 2020, 08:46:46 AM
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Totally true. Your destiny is on your hands, your mind and your decisions.
Of course, but sometimes the goodness is a bit vague at first because of the lack of awareness to get better. That's why I think all forum members will welcome anyone who wants to try to be better and start contributing to the community even if only by posting something constructive. A constructive and quality post is also a good effort to make the forum cleaner and it is not uncommon for such posts to be rewarded as a form of appreciation.

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You are right but most of bounty hunters are spammers. I guess 80% of bounty hunters are spammers.
The percentage may still be greater than 80% and I think it is around 90% of bounty hunter are those who are less concerned with the quality of posts. This is just my prediction based on what I found.

By the way, it is very difficult to read your replies when all other user responses are answered in one post. Its like looking at a wall of text. Sorry

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There is nothing needed to say if you choose the first three. If you fortunately and bravely to choose the last one, and want to go as good members the next thing you have to do is choosing the area you have interests in. It is important because you will more easily spend more time for that, and you will feel more comfortable to do so. It is your interests so your works with it will bring lots of fun back to you.
If someone would choose being a spammer and/or a scammer, then I don't know what they're thinking aside from wasting their time. This forum aims to give us knowledge about cryptocurrency and other related things and the least we can do to give back is to become a good member.

And by good member, that means following rules and doing your best to improve as part of your contribution in this community. It's somehow mutualism. You can help in making the forum cleaner and in turn, you allow yourself to learn new things and with commitment, you'll eventually become a master of your own craft.

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Not!. The first thing a newbie should do is go read the forum rules. After that if you are free to do what you want.

You don't stop being a novice, ever. you are novice because you are simply in a section of the forum that you never use, when you get to your first post in that section, e.g. each section has its internal rules.

None of those stages you mention are rigid for a novice, the expert can go through them at any stage as a forum user.

Finally, common sense and try to add value to the conversations, that process is sometimes achieved, sometimes not, opinions are sometimes not right, but it is freedom of opinion joined to forum rules.

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July 10, 2020, 01:02:34 PM
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Not!. The first thing a newbie should do is go read the forum rules. After that if you are free to do what you want.
Intention before joining anything is important. Read rules is a next step of intention identification of one person. Without clear plan on what you are doing, you will not be able to do something good and well planned.

Rules are important and must read but it is not the first thing to do.

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July 10, 2020, 04:23:10 PM
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Agree with this, they should be a reader of this topic first, not as a topic creator, cause they aren't really getting those educational post from themselves, maybe they will get it from an article, some tend to plagiarize just to create a certain post because in the first place they aren't really fully understand the topic they are creating. It may be true that they may learn from reading it but what if not. Its best to read first and acquire knowledge, when you have it then you can easily contribute to topics with quality post. And everything will follow. Forum members will see it through your post if you really know what you are talking about or you are just creating it because you are expecting something.

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