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July 21, 2020, 03:11:16 AM
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Online transactions are completed very quickly but now in many places they have lagged behind in terms of technology No idea about the internet This is why it will take a long time for governments to transact with physical cash even after fully adopting CBDCs, as the government will first have to try to improve the underdeveloped countries with the advancement of technology. The virus has caused a financial crisis that has led many to give up using physical money.

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July 21, 2020, 03:37:57 AM
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Keep in mind internet adoption didn't reach everywhere yet, as its implementation is still too expensive in some places, consequently local communities don't have enough resources to pay for the installation (anthem) or to pay for a satellite internet monthly subscription.
And without internet, virtual transactions aren't possible, even if people were seeking for this. I think it is the main challenge to overcome physical transactions and to adopt a fully digital system, but I expect satellite internet investments are going to increase soon as it's the most practical source of signal as far as I know, what will make the service cheaper, covering the whole world with signal. When this happens we will be ready to phase out physical cash completely. Older people will have to adapt to it as they did before towards vehicles, electricity, television and more...

internet is cheaper now 10 times  compare to what they are before  . gadgets to browse the internet are also cheaper , now we dont need the actual pc or laptop but we can use our phones  . its also not the job of the community to buy satelites for signals but its the job of the government to put that  . i dont think its not possible for all to convert to digital payments  but maybe its not the right time yet   .  i guess governments are still on the process to that idea because i think its not easy to just decide that we will permanently leave using physical money

There are still people who prefer to use the traditional payment - cash. Not all people accept change, they are more than happy to live in the traditional way. Not because they can't afford but it's their way of life ever since. So I'm not seeing that physical cash will be abolished completely.
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July 21, 2020, 07:00:09 AM
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Keep in mind internet adoption didn't reach everywhere yet, as its implementation is still too expensive in some places, consequently local communities don't have enough resources to pay for the installation (anthem) or to pay for a satellite internet monthly subscription.
And without internet, virtual transactions aren't possible, even if people were seeking for this. I think it is the main challenge to overcome physical transactions and to adopt a fully digital system, but I expect satellite internet investments are going to increase soon as it's the most practical source of signal as far as I know, what will make the service cheaper, covering the whole world with signal. When this happens we will be ready to phase out physical cash completely. Older people will have to adapt to it as they did before towards vehicles, electricity, television and more...

internet is cheaper now 10 times  compare to what they are before  . gadgets to browse the internet are also cheaper , now we dont need the actual pc or laptop but we can use our phones  . its also not the job of the community to buy satelites for signals but its the job of the government to put that  . i dont think its not possible for all to convert to digital payments  but maybe its not the right time yet   .  i guess governments are still on the process to that idea because i think its not easy to just decide that we will permanently leave using physical money

There are still people who prefer to use the traditional payment - cash. Not all people accept change, they are more than happy to live in the traditional way. Not because they can't afford but it's their way of life ever since. So I'm not seeing that physical cash will be abolished completely.
Indeed. Even a lot of people are now using online or virtual payment when they buy in groceries and online stores, they still prefer to use physical cash as a payment method because no technology is perfect when it comes to security, so online wallets are not completely safe and secure. It is the reason why most crypto users recommend to use a hardware wallet to avoid getting hacked. It is also difficult for the government and other people to decide which is better physical money or virtual money, and there are still people who can't afford to get their device to use virtual money as a payment.

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July 21, 2020, 08:30:38 AM
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I think this is not so easy to change physical cash to digital completely within short period of time. Yes we can say people now realize deeply for digital currency in this pandemic situation but where maximum country still not accepted digital currency there change within short time is impossible. On the other hand banks now made many ways to send and receive money without physical existence and in this period people are made more adaptions with this. So finally i will say it needs more experiment and more time  banks to phase out physical cash completely.

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July 21, 2020, 11:08:42 PM
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As we enter the digital realm due to the effects of COVID-19, the process of central banks phasing out physical cash from existence might take place soon. Before the outbreak, we've been accustomed in using credit/debit cards and contactless payments greatly eliminating the need for physical cash. Now that we're in a "COVID Era", things have accelerated quite a bit. Banks and governments are in talks of adopting CBDCs which could completely eliminate the need to pay for things with physical cash.

Now the real question is, how long will it take banks to start the transition from physical to digital cash (CBDC)? Do you think that physical cash will still be used right after governments adopt CBDCs in their entirety? Or will it take decades before every single person in the world stops transacting with physical cash, paving the way for a full-fledged cashless society? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Smiley
What exactly is your main reason that made you think that the banks has to phase out cash?
If Covid-19 is your reason, I don’t think that’s enough. Cash will always be there, whether you like it or not, and no one is forcing you to make use of it, it’s just your choice.

There are so many payment methods out there that people can use, it’s just your choice to choose what works for you. There is PayPal, and there are so many people who make use of it, we have Bitcoin and you can as well use it if that’s what you choose. It’s always your choice.
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July 22, 2020, 05:24:38 AM
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For sure it would really take a very long time for the phasing out of physical money to take place. Also there would be a lot of arguments and consultations to be done before coming up into such decision because there are lots of people around the world who would still prefer using fiat or paper money more than digital ones like cryptocurrencies. Just like in the cases in the third world countries wherein they have difficulty on adapting into the latest technology because of the economic status and cultural as well as traditional belief stored on people's minds that makes it an additional difficulty to implement such thing of phasing out paper money just to put it into a digital manner.

Humanity are known to adapt into changes but it would really take long to execute the idea of phasing out physical money for it would still take concern of the citizen's opinion regarding the matter if it would fit their daily life situation and if it would suit to adapt on the tradition they have on using paper money. If the government and people would jive into the same decision and if it would benefit both parties wherein no one would be left behind, then possibly that is the time when banks can totally phase out usage of physical money and turn it into digital ones. Although it could be possible to happen, it would really take time for people to accept and adapt on the new system of currency.
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July 22, 2020, 11:13:37 AM
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Keep in mind internet adoption didn't reach everywhere yet, as its implementation is still too expensive in some places, consequently local communities don't have enough resources to pay for the installation (anthem) or to pay for a satellite internet monthly subscription.
And without internet, virtual transactions aren't possible, even if people were seeking for this. I think it is the main challenge to overcome physical transactions and to adopt a fully digital system, but I expect satellite internet investments are going to increase soon as it's the most practical source of signal as far as I know, what will make the service cheaper, covering the whole world with signal. When this happens we will be ready to phase out physical cash completely. Older people will have to adapt to it as they did before towards vehicles, electricity, television and more...

internet is cheaper now 10 times  compare to what they are before  . gadgets to browse the internet are also cheaper , now we dont need the actual pc or laptop but we can use our phones  . its also not the job of the community to buy satelites for signals but its the job of the government to put that  . i dont think its not possible for all to convert to digital payments  but maybe its not the right time yet   .  i guess governments are still on the process to that idea because i think its not easy to just decide that we will permanently leave using physical money

There are still people who prefer to use the traditional payment - cash. Not all people accept change, they are more than happy to live in the traditional way. Not because they can't afford but it's their way of life ever since. So I'm not seeing that physical cash will be abolished completely.

Many people are not gonna buy those new changes since many people cannot adopt the new technology and also cannot trust the digital system since hacking is so rampant. So I think this digital things will not happen nor have little possibilities since I'm sure billionaire want to see their money piling up on their house nor in banks.

But I'm open with this changes let see how this discussion go far if the thoughts will became reality.

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July 22, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
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I feel like there will be a moment when the technology is so advanced that people who were born before 1970's will not be alive so the adoption would be a lot easier and everyone will be adopting to whatever the newest technology is. At that moment we could start to see some crazy stuff that we can't even imagine right now.

People who are over 60 years old right now have hard time paying stuff from mobile, let alone get into crypto, so it is understandable that they would have hard time adopting to something new that would remove cash all together, yet there will be time when they are no longer with us which would open up a lot of doors. Hell even buying stuff online was something "dangerous" for a long time and now it is common as drinking it water so I am sure it will be fine.
I remember those times, people were very afraid to make any purchases online but that was because there was not really any way to do this securely as you needed to give your credit card information and that is always a risk, but then platforms like PayPal appeared and helped to make online commerce more common, however even if I believe you are right on your prediction I do not really think cash is ever going to disappear completely as poor people simply do not have the necessary access to technology to make that a reality.
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July 22, 2020, 04:47:48 PM
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59 percent of global population has access to internet and according to this website we achieved this percentage in 25 years.
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Numbers down below are up to 80 because there was a mixture of early and monthly statistics.

Btw seems there is a significant steady rise in number of internet users but still I think it will take decades to move population into cashless society, personally I don't like this fact cause it will be super easy to manipulate everything as you wish online. And after that, there will be no need of ATMs, right? Idk, that may happen or may not in near future, very hard to predict.

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July 22, 2020, 09:56:54 PM
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People already know how important that cash is, this is not in doubt. And I don't think cash will go away because the use of it is enormous in humanity. I expect that banks will adopt bitcoin to make payment faster since the countries are now going digital.

It will go away because it will cost more and more to produce it and make it difficult to counterfeit. Right now many coins all over the world cost more to produce than the valye they hold.

The governments will push to switch to digital payments like phone wallets and cards first to remove small bills and then finally the big ones. You'll see I was right when they cease production of the smallest coins and bills in your country to decrease the amount in circulation and discourage people from using them.
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July 23, 2020, 06:20:09 AM
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People already know how important that cash is, this is not in doubt. And I don't think cash will go away because the use of it is enormous in humanity. I expect that banks will adopt bitcoin to make payment faster since the countries are now going digital.

It will go away because it will cost more and more to produce it and make it difficult to counterfeit. Right now many coins all over the world cost more to produce than the valye they hold.

The governments will push to switch to digital payments like phone wallets and cards first to remove small bills and then finally the big ones. You'll see I was right when they cease production of the smallest coins and bills in your country to decrease the amount in circulation and discourage people from using them.

It's a process, and we need to mention that some advanced countries started that process some time ago, and of course those countries will get rid of the cash soon. There're some announcements from Sweden, Norway, Islands, Japan, South Korea, and probably some others. But in the same time we can count that in some countries it will take time for this, they didn't start to think about it yet, to not talk when will they start working on that, third world countries, big countries without infrastructure, etc...
Just to say that digitalisation of fiat is not the same as adoption of crypto, have that in mind. Fiat system is corrupted, new name and form will not change the fact that it's a corrupted system. If we need changes we need to support crypto and tell others to do the same.

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July 23, 2020, 06:55:53 AM
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Now the real question is, how long will it take banks to start the transition from physical to digital cash (CBDC)? Do you think that physical cash will still be used right after governments adopt CBDCs in their entirety? Or will it take decades before every single person in the world stops transacting with physical cash, paving the way for a full-fledged cashless society? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Smiley
In my opinion, it depends on the attitude of the people and the way the government conducts socialization to better use digital cash. I think this still needs a long time to change the usage to digital, besides that we also have to pay attention to supporting needs if the use of digitalcash is required. This is the problem of the government in each country. Besides, there are still a number of things that need to be fixed related to the shortcomings of using digital cash.

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July 23, 2020, 11:24:53 AM
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59 percent of global population has access to internet and according to this website we achieved this percentage in 25 years.
Here you can see the chart:
Numbers down below are up to 80 because there was a mixture of early and monthly statistics.

Btw seems there is a significant steady rise in number of internet users but still I think it will take decades to move population into cashless society, personally I don't like this fact cause it will be super easy to manipulate everything as you wish online. And after that, there will be no need of ATMs, right? Idk, that may happen or may not in near future, very hard to predict.

The transition from Fiat to CBDC is possible not only by solving technical issues, such as Internet availability, but also by solving financial problems for the entire population. We know that there are a lot of people who will never be able to have a smartphone due to their poverty. For such people and those where the Internet is not available, the only unit of calculation will be the Fiat.

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July 24, 2020, 01:42:02 AM
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To my knowledge, CBDCs will not be using blockchain

I agree that first proposals around 2015-2016 (e.g. by the Bank of England) mentioned blockchain, up to a point of actually suggesting to use it as their backbone value transfer system. CBDCs were in fact inspired by Bitcoin and its technology. However, from what we now know, the real implementations won't be based on blockchain. Seriously, what's in it for central bankers? In my opinion, they would do just fine with centralized solutions

A CBDC will prove to be a safe-haven for banks worldwide, as they'll gain more control over people's money. Privacy will be a thing of the past, as banks alongside governments, will control the centralized Blockchain ledger allowing them to do as they please. With no physical cash, every transaction performed will be entirely visible to said entities. I think this is one of the many reasons why central banks and governments have become so interested in a launching their own CBDCs. It seems that China will be at the forefront of the digital economy, as it's already massively testing its own digital version of the Chinese Yuan. Other countries might start doing the same soon, in order to avoid getting left out of the game.

Once the whole world relies on CBDCs for mainstream transactions, then the battle between the centralized and decentralized realm will begin. While I don't think decentralized cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum are going anywhere, they'll be challenged by CBDCs worldwide. After all, CBDCs will provide virtually the same benefits of crypto (speed and low costs) while retaining the same properties of physical cash (especially price stability). It'll be up to the people to choose from one type of currency from another. While CBDCs will increase government surveillance, people who want privacy over their transactions will rely on decentralized cryptocurrencies we all know and love today. Using Blockchain tech on a CBDC makes no sense if the same will be utterly centralized. It'll be nothing more than a "glorified database" subject to manipulation and corruption by the world's most powerful governments and central banks. Just my thoughts Grin

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July 24, 2020, 03:50:00 AM
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If we are practically thinking, another century would completely phase out physical money, we either along the way die of extinction from apocalypse or quantum computing is flourishing and resource management become so efficient that we became dependent on technology when it comes to finances. I specify quantum computing because I believe that by that time a centralized computer will do all the things that is needed and one example is finances.

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July 24, 2020, 09:58:58 AM
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If we are practically thinking, another century would completely phase out physical money, we either along the way die of extinction from apocalypse or quantum computing is flourishing and resource management become so efficient that we became dependent on technology when it comes to finances. I specify quantum computing because I believe that by that time a centralized computer will do all the things that is needed and one example is finances.

I don't think it would be that long.

It is true that we are slowly depending on the technologies available in our country and before we even think about cryptocurrencies, we should be aware that there are also cards and digital wallets. Technology will flourish and transactions will do the same in that process. We don't know, Blockchain might be used at that future.
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July 24, 2020, 11:38:38 PM
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After all, CBDCs will provide virtually the same benefits of crypto (speed and low costs) while retaining the same properties of physical cash (especially price stability)

They will not offer the most important thing

Which is predictable and controlled supply (read, hard-capped). And this also happens to be the first part of Bitcoin's value proposition, the other part being its decentralized nature (which CBDCs also lack). All the advantages of CBDCs (whatever those might be) will become instantly irrelevant once central banks start printing these "new" currencies like there's no tomorrow. That's a doornail into the coffin of any CBDC out there. Put simply, a CBDC is just fiat on juice

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July 25, 2020, 08:01:24 AM
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It will be long a long process to get rid of physical cash however now is the right time for this financial system change. But before this financial changes takes place, there are a lot of things to be considered specially that countries around the world have different economic status and not all can easily keep up with these changes but in due time with the proper guidance of the government and the central banks we can all get there. 

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July 25, 2020, 09:36:35 AM
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The last time we had a crisis is the 2008 US Financial Crisis but that didn't affect the whole world but its just the US and at that time, there is no alternative currency that can be use like cryptocurrencies.

The transition from physical to digital cash takes years or decades so this transition process will be long or it may not happen at all. I see some reasons why as of this moment, this transition will be hard.

1. Not all of the people around the world have access to digital apps or anything related to digital cash. Still there are some people who are using physical cash right now and that is the only cash that they have right now.
2. Even though we are in the process of digitalization already, there are some people who still don't know how to use gadgets. Lets face it, there are some parts of the world which aren't familiar with gadgets or didn't even tried to use gadgets in their whole life.

This process takes a long time or it may not happen because of the scenarios/reason I said above.

 
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July 25, 2020, 09:40:22 AM
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Before corona I would have said it's going to take a very long time to phase out physical cash but now with the new normal it might be much faster. People got scared using cash in the stores because of catching the corona virus. Almost all stores asked their customers to use electronic payments. Even thought spreading of corona via money is very unlikely.
so most of the payments I see now are either done with a card, just holding at the sensor or even via phone. Probably after corona is gone this will not change back.
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