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July 23, 2020, 05:57:22 AM
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The biggest winnet during this Covid 19 are those people that can create a vaccine to fight the virus. Once the vaccine are ready to release in the market ,the price of it is very high because it was in demand and the demand will make it valuable. The country that can create this first are so lucky. But i think China knows what is the cure for this virus and just keep it secret to see their fellow countries suffered from this virus.
agree that the country of China has found a vaccine that has been tried in the country, currently it has been distributed to many countries to be developed independently and adapted to the needs of each country.

in my country currently has received a vaccine from china and is being analyzed again with existing interests, and has entered the third phase that is tested on humans.
if the vaccine is suitable for what is happening in my country, the country can produce a lot to be used.

do not know the mechanism that occurs by administering vaccines from China to my country, whether by buying the patent rights or when producing them will be charged a fee for each vaccine made. but at least the price can be further suppressed because the country itself is producing and not dependent on China.
I don't think there was a vaccine for COVID-19 because there are still countriest that has a huge numbers of active virus cases, that is why it is impossible for other countries to receive a vaccine from china. However, COVID-19 symptoms can be treated that makes the virus less dangerous and don't need for us to panicked.

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July 23, 2020, 06:11:38 AM
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To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.

Covid impacted negatively economies, disrupting lives of citizens leaving many of them out of the job.
Sanitary emergencies required exceptional measures like lockdowns or temporary restrictions of individual liberties.
In this situation Governments could go full steam in what they like the most: interfere with economic systems and with private life of their citizens.
They could also do without restrictions, as a gargantuan amount of money was poured into the systems by CB’s brrr and relaxation of fiscal policies, allowing an enormous quantity of debt to be created.
Governments are the ultimate beneficiaries of the pandemic, at the expenses of their citizens.

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July 23, 2020, 06:59:04 AM
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To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.
To be exact, the government officials are the ones that are benefitting, they keep a facade yet do nothing. The pharmaceutical companies will only win if they manufactured a cure in which they can sell it but the research funds outweigh the classification that they benefitted.

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July 23, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
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To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.
To be exact, the government officials are the ones that are benefitting, they keep a facade yet do nothing. The pharmaceutical companies will only win if they manufactured a cure in which they can sell it but the research funds outweigh the classification that they benefitted.
no surprise to me, there is no pandemic, they have begun to act as a position that. behind a pandemic outbreak there must be someone who does something selfish it is certain, though not all of them but one of the groups is doing it. This is what makes people shout demonstrations to the government because aid is not coming.a business above people's suffering, sad?

 
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July 23, 2020, 11:17:23 AM
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To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.

Specially to the countries who have political issues such as graft and corruption. I could say that they are really the most benefactors of COVID-19 pandemic. They are just telling to the media the empathy that they feel for the less fortunate people, but behind that they really don`t care. Probably, before a program will launch such as relief or programs related to the calamity funds, they have already plans on how they are going to deceive the budget. And that is the reason why they are the biggest winners of this pandemic (as I said earlier).

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July 23, 2020, 11:28:04 AM
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To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.

To be exact, the government officials are the ones that are benefitting, they keep a facade yet do nothing.

Even this virus unable to move the good samaritan inside the government's officials heart, instead of utilizing all the resources they still
find ways to corrupt the budget, from national to local government.

The pharmaceutical companies will only win if they manufactured a cure in which they can sell it but the research funds outweigh the classification that they benefitted.

This part will be crucial, the one who will successfully provide the right vaccine will win the raise and will really banks trillions as the whole world are
suffering from this pandemic virus.
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July 23, 2020, 11:56:17 AM
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Do you think this was a man-made virus to destabilize the world's economy and buy huge shares so that a vaccinations can be rolled out once the enough damage is made ?

There has been a lot of theory about that, but I don't want to believe unless there is a concrete evidence concerning that.

What we are experiencing now could be a man made or a natural one, but we should be focus on how to battle the covid-19, it was affected the global economy and until now it's still not solve, I don't want to talk about the biggest winners and I don't want to know who based only on my own speculation, but I believe there are people who benefited from these especially those who are selling basic necessities as the demand have increase significantly, but overall, the economy is down.

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July 23, 2020, 04:41:24 PM
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Do you think this was a man-made virus to destabilize the world's economy and buy huge shares so that a vaccinations can be rolled out once the enough damage is made ?

There has been a lot of theory about that, but I don't want to believe unless there is a concrete evidence concerning that.

What we are experiencing now could be a man made or a natural one, but we should be focus on how to battle the covid-19, it was affected the global economy and until now it's still not solve, I don't want to talk about the biggest winners and I don't want to know who based only on my own speculation, but I believe there are people who benefited from these especially those who are selling basic necessities as the demand have increase significantly, but overall, the economy is down.

no doubt every time there is a pandemic there will certainly be a lot of speculation arising from the problem, but this is a reality and now what is needed is cooperation so that this pandemic can be finished soon rather than a polemic just to discuss who and what happened and who enjoyed the benefits.

if there is no immediate cure and vaccines then many countries will experience an economic crisis after this has passed, not yet in the past many countries have experienced difficulties to meet crucial needs such as medical devices which are suddenly very expensive. even to get medical support devices must elbow each other because they really need it.

vaccines have been found in many countries but not yet at a crucial stage or have not been tested on humans.
but there is the latest news about vaccines, that the country of China is already at the stage of clinical trials in humans so that it is already at the renewable stage. but each country certainly has a different character so that vaccines cannot be directly relevant to each country so it needs to be re-analyzed before mass production. but this is already news of progress even though for mass production also requires a lot of time and funds.
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July 23, 2020, 08:38:27 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2020, 12:32:38 PM by fillippone
 #169

To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.

To be exact, the government officials are the ones that are benefitting, they keep a facade yet do nothing.

Even this virus unable to move the good samaritan inside the government's officials heart, instead of utilizing all the resources they still
find ways to corrupt the budget, from national to local government.

How can a virus move something that doesn't exists?
When I spoke about government of course I was thinking about government officials: abstract bodies do not exists: government is a sum of people, every one of them with their own agenda.
Every decision they are taking is a decision in their own interest, which is not, in many cases, aligned with the interest of the people who elected them.
This is not by change, or an accident, this is by design being governments a centralised scheme.



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July 24, 2020, 06:26:44 AM
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To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.

Covid impacted negatively economies, disrupting lives of citizens leaving many of them out of the job.
Sanitary emergencies required exceptional measures like lockdowns or temporary restrictions of individual liberties.
In this situation Governments could go full steam in what they like the most: interfere with economic systems and with private life of their citizens.
They could also do without restrictions, as a gargantuan amount of money was poured into the systems by CB’s brrr and relaxation of fiscal policies, allowing an enormous quantity of debt to be created.
Governments are the ultimate beneficiaries of the pandemic, at the expenses of their citizens.

They use the current pandemic to campaign for the upcoming election next year, they hoard alcohol, mask, and PPE and now they're putting names on it and giving to people. The testing prioritizes those VIP which is those government officials and other politicians. The funds are straight in their pocket, some of the poor people didn't receive any help from the government.

They're destroying the citizen's life on their incompetent decisions while they're just chillin' on their positions. Instead of showing that they really deserve the spot and giving care to the people, they're showing their true identity that they're just a corrupt politician. They keep blaming the citizens because of their incompetencies and now that people are against the government, they implemented a bill about terrorism which is very inappropriate in this pandemic.
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July 24, 2020, 09:30:00 AM
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We are aware that most of the countries economy has gone for a toss and many are at the brink of collapse but who has been the biggest winner of this pandemic? is it corporate medical industry who are charging abnormous fee for treatment or else a particular regime who is silently buying stakes of major groups at lower price during this situation? Do you think this was a man-made virus to destabilize the world's economy and buy huge shares so that a vaccinations can be rolled out once the enough damage is made ?
As cruel as it sounds, but  from the very beginning of the pandemic, I was sure that it was a swollen bubble. Yes, the virus exists, but it does not go beyond the epidemiological framework. The mortality death rate does not exceed the standard. I've seen how much effort PR people put in to strike fear into entire nations. Others made good money on this COVID.

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Video streaming platforms and home training systems are seeing a huge boom as people are social distancing and staying at home.
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July 24, 2020, 02:00:01 PM
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Is it really possible that despite of the current situation of pandemic there is a biggest winner to be stated? I guess no, because we are all seriously affected by this situation and no one is benefiting on the current scenario we have been getting through at this time. If you were talking about the revenues or payment being paid to the health workers in exchange for the services they provide in order to save other people's lives, then it is really not a good deal because even if they were getting paid millions or billions for the services they provide, still their lives worth priceless because money cannot turn back their lives once they die while working to put medical attention on those infected patients.

Even business people are also affected and they were all helping to the extent of what they have to help other people. Here in our country, a well-known business man on the field of making alcoholic drinks stop its manufacturing of alcoholic drinks and converted the whole production on making alcohols for the sake of sanitation and giving it all just for free. Imagine that, there is literally no biggest winners at this time of pandemic for we are all extending all things we can do to help stop the spread or to end up this pandemic.


I agree with you that human lives cannot be valued by money.
conversely, medical personnel may refuse to serve people affected by co-19? but in reality they are still in the front to continue to provide the best service, so it's good we continue to be disciplined and do not consider this pandemic as a business area for an industry.
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July 24, 2020, 03:25:35 PM
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The biggest winnet during this Covid 19 are those people that can create a vaccine to fight the virus. Once the vaccine are ready to release in the market ,the price of it is very high because it was in demand and the demand will make it valuable. The country that can create this first are so lucky. But i think China knows what is the cure for this virus and just keep it secret to see their fellow countries suffered from this virus.

There is a point on saying that. Maybe they would be the real big winners at this pandemic because many countries are struggling to find the cure for the virus and the discovery of the vaccine that will eventually end up the pandemic will surely be expensive on the market since it is a new discovery in the field of medicine for the new type of existing virus.

To me, biggest winner during the COVID were the governments.


This can be possible because we all know that there are really government officials who are corrupt on which the donations that are meant for the poor ones are being boycotted and directly getting straight to make their fat pockets. This was just absurd that even at time of crisis there are still individuals who are making use of the situation to take advantage just for the sake of earning money for themselves.

But seriously if we are going to think about generally, neglecting corruption and other stuff related on that, there is really no big winner on this pandemic because we are all seriously being affected negatively by this situation. Even the richest one are affected and most specially the poor ones that are directly affected by the effect of this pandemic because many have been temporarily to permanently jobless and it is hard to seek job opportunities at this time due to the existing community quarantine.
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July 24, 2020, 03:32:35 PM
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Even the richest one are affected and most specially the poor ones that are directly affected by the effect of this pandemic because many have been temporarily to permanently jobless and it is hard to seek job opportunities at this time due to the existing community quarantine.

Yes the rich for sure they were affected.They were in fact positively affected. They saw their business only slighly negatively impacted, or at least less than a lower class one (owning a restaurant is for sure better than working in a restaurant) or a lawer is surely less impacted than a driver. Also they benefited from the huge stocks rally, wich increased their wealth even more. While the poor people, without any savings, let alone investments, have seen their wealth gap increase even more.
 

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July 24, 2020, 10:46:09 PM
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the medical industry is the biggest beneficiary. this we have proven with the high cost of prevention and handling tools for Covid. such as personal protective equipment, thermometers, rapid tests, ventilators, masks and so on.
but for medical parties such as doctors and nurses are the most affected because they have to bother to treat patients , and that is free? Cry

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July 25, 2020, 02:27:51 AM
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Do you consider deaths among those who had made this virus if this is a man made. Pretty sure he will come to his senses and conscience must be out of this world now. There were many died because of this virus and of course anyone can think of this to happen before it will be executed. So if they have enough conscience then they could not do it. My conclusion would be that this is not made by human instead it is acquired from those chinese people probably from their exotic eating activities.
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July 25, 2020, 08:22:07 AM
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Well, many people think that this is a conspiracy, and I don't think it's important, because right now it's better to focus on treatment and how to deal with it than to think whether it's a conspiracy or not. Well, right now the thing that benefits the most is the food industry and home needs, I think those who get the most market demand right now. while for health workers, of course not. quite a lot of health workers lost their great people because they were in the forefront against this pandemic. currently, all countries are trying to solve this problem.
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Even the richest one are affected and most specially the poor ones that are directly affected by the effect of this pandemic because many have been temporarily to permanently jobless and it is hard to seek job opportunities at this time due to the existing community quarantine.

Yes the rich for sure they were affected.They were in fact positively affected. They saw their business only slighly negatively impacted, or at least less than a lower class one (owning a restaurant is for sure better than working in a restaurant) or a lawer is surely less impacted than a driver. Also they benefited from the huge stocks rally, wich increased their wealth even more. While the poor people, without any savings, let alone investments, have seen their wealth gap increase even more.
 
And the rich are continuing to push for bailout while criticizing the low income initiatives.



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July 25, 2020, 01:58:51 PM
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A few days ago I read the news about Wimbledon, which seems to have benefited the most from the coronavirus. The tournament updated its pandemic insurance 17 years ago and paid $ 2 million a year for it. Now they will receive $ 141 million in insurance.
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