Lockdown easing - I'm back in the cafe

[BADecker]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is Google "virus vs. exosome." If he can read, and if he can watch a few videos, he would see that viruses and exosomes do approximately the same thing. Also, they look the same so that they can't be distinguished by medical researchers.

One very interesting item is that exosomes are being used by medical people as medicine, along with stem cells (often where they originate). Google "exosome therapy" or "medical use of exosomes."

We are finding out that there are billions of kinds of exosomes, just like there are billions of kinds of viruses. We are finding out that most of the time a researcher can't determine the difference between a virus and its corresponding exosome. We are finding out that both exist in the same kinds of places in the cell. But watch the video at https://stoplookthink.com/exosome-theory-vs-virus-theory/ to see how the so-called Covid-19 virus fits exosome theory better than it fits virus theory.

When you put all the info together - including the fact that the Covid-19 identification tests were inconclusive - maybe there aren't really any viruses at all! Maybe it's all exosomes in various operations within and outside of the body.

Poor franky1. Still stuck in last century's understanding of medicine, rather than moving on into the future.

[Spendulus]

.....

one day he will learn science. of chemical, ion, enzyme analysis. aswell as magnification to nano scales...

Don't bet on it.

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is ....
Poor franky1. Still stuck in last century's understanding of medicine, rather than moving on into the future.

Still think America didn't go to the Moon, Badecker?

[franky1]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is Google "virus vs. exosome." If he can read, and if he can watch a few videos, he would see that viruses and exosomes do approximately the same thing. Also, they look the same so that they can't be distinguished by medical researchers.

your "approximately" is where you would say a carrot is approximately an orange

there is alot of different things happening and alot of differences
there are lots of different viruses.. take ebola. it looks like a string tied in a knot. but a corona virus is like a spikey ball and a exosome looks like a bubble

exosomes have a totally different function than a virus
exosomes have a positive effect on cells.. viruses have a negative effect on cells
healing vs destruction

exosomes are native to the person and their rna encoding is for the persons health benefit like transporting things cells need to repair
viruses are alien/outsiders/invaders. RNA is not part of the humans biology and their task is to multiply and cause damage. using the invaded host as the host to multiply their alien rna

funny part is you said stupidly no one has seen a corona virus.. heck even the link said he thinks no one has tested corona virus nor identifued it(facepalm) but above you said an exosome looks like a corona virus
funny fip flop and self debunking you done.
if you say its never been identified how can you then say it looks like something else....

but i guess apples and oranges would confuse you too
as would the difference between methylmercury vs ethylmercury
as would monkey kidneys vs stem cells
as would crystal meth vs ethereal alcohol

..

But watch the video at https://stoplookthink.com/exosome-theory-vs-virus-theory/

you linked a website that also talks about flat earth and 9-11
(facepalm)
not even worth reading them cultish conspiracy sites. but i do find it funny how most of your links are conspiracy centric websites. but you avoid reading full documented and referenced scientific websites

[BADecker]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is ....
Poor franky1. Still stuck in last century's understanding of medicine, rather than moving on into the future.

Still think America didn't go to the Moon, Badecker?

I suppose we all talk silly at times, but you take the cake with that question.

Let me spell it out for you. It's difficult enough getting a few astronauts to the moon. Why would you ever think America went to the moon?

It wouldn't be so bad if you said it only once. But go read "The Secret of the Martian Moons" by Donald Wollheim to see that something like America going to the moon is far more of a project than Americans would even want to think about undertaking.

[BADecker]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is Google "virus vs. exosome." If he can read, and if he can watch a few videos, he would see that viruses and exosomes do approximately the same thing. Also, they look the same so that they can't be distinguished by medical researchers.

your "approximately" is where you would say a carrot is approximately an orange

there is alot of different things happening and alot of differences
there are lots of different viruses.. take ebola. it looks like a string tied in a knot. but a corona virus is like a spikey ball and a exosome looks like a bubble

exosomes have a totally different function than a virus
exosomes have a positive effect on cells.. viruses have a negative effect on cells
healing vs destruction

exosomes are native to the person and their rna encoding is for the persons health benefit like transporting things cells need to repair
viruses are alien/outsiders/invaders. RNA is not part of the humans biology and their task is to multiply and cause damage. using the invaded host as the host to multiply their alien rna

funny part is you said stupidly no one has seen a corona virus.. heck even the link said he thinks no one has tested corona virus nor identifued it(facepalm) but above you said an exosome looks like a corona virus
funny fip flop and self debunking you done.
if you say its never been identified how can you then say it looks like something else....

but i guess apples and oranges would confuse you too
as would the difference between methylmercury vs ethylmercury
as would monkey kidneys vs stem cells
as would crystal meth vs ethereal alcohol

..

But watch the video at https://stoplookthink.com/exosome-theory-vs-virus-theory/

you linked a website that also talks about flat earth and 9-11
(facepalm)
not even worth reading them cultish conspiracy sites. but i do find it funny how most of your links are conspiracy centric websites. but you avoid reading full documented and referenced scientific websites

If you want to discuss flat Earth, why not start another flat Earth thread? You probably won't be able to dispel a lot of the ideas flat earthers have.

As for viruses and exosomes, it's a great idea that these two beasties have different goals in their imitation of life. The thing that they have naturally, however, is a method that keeps us from determining which of these particles are viruses, and which are exosomes... except if we use extremely exacting and painstaking analysis in each and every, individual case.

The point is, in all our analysis and testing of average people, there might be a handful of them where some diligent researcher made an accurate, knowing determination regarding which of the two a patient has... exosomes or Covid-19. They literally are that similar.

The numbers are all skewed because of this. In fact, it may only have been a few hundred people who had the Covid virus, and the rest had exosomes. That's the simplistic way the individual testing has been done. We simply haven't done the testing correctly enough to do more than guess.

Or do you think that you can explain a case better than the doctors and professors in my links and websites?

[Spendulus]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is ....
Poor franky1. Still stuck in last century's understanding of medicine, rather than moving on into the future.

Still think America didn't go to the Moon, Badecker?

Let me spell it out for you. It's difficult enough getting a few astronauts to the moon. Why would you ever think America went to the moon?

Now that's a fabulously non answer of an answer. Yes or do, did American put six spacecraft carrying twelve men on the Moon between 1969 and 1971?

[Jet Cash]

Sending men to the moon is so last century.

Elon Musk is going to save energy by bringing the moon to the earth. I think he is just trying to raise money for an abstract project.

The Chinese are going to build a bridge so that they can mine the minerals there.

Boris Johnson wants to put a face mask on the man in the moon in case he has the covid virus, but Bill Gates is going to vaccinate him so that he has to buy pharmaceuticals.

Ban Ki-moon is going to host a climate change summit so that Jack can build a beanstalk as a natural way to get to the moon.

Jet Cash is going to cut down on coffee and eating blue ray cod - some say it affects the brain.

[Spendulus]

Sending men to the moon is so last century....

Or wasn't, if you believe Badecker.

[Jet Cash]

Who cares anyway - I've got enough green cheese in my fridge as it is.

[BADecker]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is ....
Poor franky1. Still stuck in last century's understanding of medicine, rather than moving on into the future.

Still think America didn't go to the Moon, Badecker?

Let me spell it out for you. It's difficult enough getting a few astronauts to the moon. Why would you ever think America went to the moon?

Now that's a fabulously non answer of an answer. Yes or do, did American put six spacecraft carrying twelve men on the Moon between 1969 and 1971?

Are you asking me? I mean, you didn't seem satisfied with my last answer, so are you really asking me again?

Do you not have the ability to search the internet and elsewhere to find out how many people have landed on the moon? But America didn't go to the moon. America is still here on Earth where she has always been... or haven't you figured this out, yet?

Don't tell me you are one of those flat earthers, and you think the earth flipped over and America fell off.

[BADecker]

Who cares anyway - I've got enough green cheese in my fridge as it is.

Maybe the people in Sweden have a lot of green cheese in their fridges. And maybe that's the real reason why they haven't had a big Covid problem. The green cheese is eaten, and acts like a natural vaccine in the tummy. But you gotta go to the site to see the chart.


Sweden: the One Chart That Matters

Sweden has been harshly criticized in the media for not imposing draconian lockdowns like the United States and the other European countries. Instead, Sweden implemented a policy that was both conventional and sensible. They recommended that people maintain a safe distance between each other and they banned gatherings of 50 people or more. They also asked their elderly citizens to isolate themselves and to avoid interacting with other people as much as possible. Other than that, Swedes were encouraged to work, exercise and get on with their lives as they would normally even though the world was still in the throes of a global pandemic.

The secret of Sweden's success is that its experts settled on a strategy that was realistic, sustainable and science-based. The intention was never to "fight" the virus which is among the most contagious infections in the last century, but to protect the old and vulnerable while allowing the young, low-risk people to circulate, contract the virus, and develop the antibodies they'd need to fight similar pathogens in the future. It's clear now that that was the best approach. And while Sweden could still experience sporadic outbreaks that might kill another 2 to 300 people, any recurrence of the infection in the Fall or Winter will not be a dreaded "Second Wave", but a much weaker flu-like event that will not overwhelm the public health system or kill thousands of people.

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Bottom line: Lockdowns don’t work, but the media continues to support them. Why?

Because the media is owned by elites who see lockdowns as an effective way to exert greater control over the population. The real issue is power, not efficacy or saving lives. The Swedish model undermines this effort by providing a viable alternative that challenges lockdowns and leads countries out of crisis. That’s why Sweden has been treated with such open hostility, because elites see crisis management as a useful tool for making the structural changes they want to impose on the political and economic systems. Billionaire oligarchs do not see crises as ‘periods of intense disorder or distress’, but golden opportunities that can be exploited to their advantage.

[franky1]

cheese=bacteria. = tummy
corona = virus= lungs

its the same silly mistake as badecker thinking swallowing bleach into the stomach would kill virus in the lungs..

but the idiot doesnt realise that the lungs and the stomach are separate. nor does he realise the damage to the stomach bleach can do.

and thats just common sense stuff badecker doesnt understand, before even discussing the science of the difference between a bacteria and a virus

but silly old badecker thinks everything is the same thing. he thinks bacteria, viruses, exosomes, apples and pears are all the same thing
because.. he is an idiot

[BADecker]

cheese=bacteria. = tummy
corona = virus= lungs

its the same silly mistake as badecker thinking swallowing bleach into the stomach would kill virus in the lungs..

but the idiot doesnt realise that the lungs and the stomach are separate. nor does he realise the damage to the stomach bleach can do.

and thats just common sense stuff badecker doesnt understand, before even discussing the science of the difference between a bacteria and a virus

but silly old badecker thinks everything is the same thing. he thinks bacteria, viruses, exosomes, apples and pears are all the same thing
because.. he is an idiot

Well, Sweden was right about not locking down. It's in the graph. Look at the site I listed above.

So, maybe they are right about eating the moldy green cheese to get vaccinated. That is, if you believe they do this, lol.

You kinda remind me of Willis, the parroting alien, in Robert Heinlein's sci-fi book RED PLANET.

[Spendulus]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is ....
Poor franky1. Still stuck in last century's understanding of medicine, rather than moving on into the future.

Still think America didn't go to the Moon, Badecker?

Let me spell it out for you. It's difficult enough getting a few astronauts to the moon. Why would you ever think America went to the moon?

Now that's a fabulously non answer of an answer. Yes or do, did American put six spacecraft carrying twelve men on the Moon between 1969 and 1971?

...you didn't seem satisfied with my last answer, so are you really asking me again?....

One more time. Here is your question. It's simple and it's not scary at all.

Yes or do, did American put six spacecraft carrying twelve men on the Moon between 1969 and 1971?

[BADecker]

^^^ All that franky1 would have to do is ....
Poor franky1. Still stuck in last century's understanding of medicine, rather than moving on into the future.

Still think America didn't go to the Moon, Badecker?

Let me spell it out for you. It's difficult enough getting a few astronauts to the moon. Why would you ever think America went to the moon?

Now that's a fabulously non answer of an answer. Yes or do, did American put six spacecraft carrying twelve men on the Moon between 1969 and 1971?

...you didn't seem satisfied with my last answer, so are you really asking me again?....

One more time. Here is your question. It's simple and it's not scary at all.

Yes or do, did American put six spacecraft carrying twelve men on the Moon between 1969 and 1971?

It isn't my question. If it were, I might be interested in looking it up. What? Am I your only source?

Hey, anybody. Spendy has a question that he can't apparently find the answer out for himself. Would somebody please answer it for him, so he doesn't have to continue to look like an idiot. [I'm sure he's not an idiot. He has some good points at times.]

[franky1]

Well, Sweden was right about not locking down. It's in the graph. Look at the site I listed above.

So, maybe they are right about eating the moldy green cheese to get vaccinated. That is, if you believe they do this, lol.

You kinda remind me of Willis, the parroting alien, in Robert Heinlein's sci-fi book RED PLANET.

sweden is not safer due to moldy cheese

sweden is safer because they didnt invade their country with hundreds of cases in january and do absolutely nothing at all untill mid march

instead they didnt even get their first cluster of cases until much later. and initiated social distancing early on

funny part is dumb americans dont even went to social distance soon after that and ocked borders down
and limited travel and limited many things
but certain americans think even swedens personal space respect advice is bad advice

these idiot americans want to think cheese is the answer. along with bleach. along with sucking on a lightbulb
funny how even idiot moronic americans who dont think there is a virus are soo obsessed with turning it into an oppertunity to sell products. heck .. they even think selling subscriptions to some youtubers membership website will cure them.

such idiots. especially when they cant get the hint that they are the idiot even when reading things that describe them

and that is the reason why americans receive stricter controls. because there are obviously some americans that cant even take advice or use common sense. they would prefer to remain ignorant and cause issues with people around them. not even respecting peoples personal space. so tougher needed restrictions get implemented to help them even when they dont like or want it

america would have been in a different situation if some americas shown they had some common sense

america first community of covid positive cluster late january.
america first death of covid early february
america implemented community response mid march

sweden first community of covid positive cluster feb 26th
sweden first death of covid march 9th
sweden implemented community response march 11

oh look couple months vs couple weeks. shows america just didnt get the message intime

[BADecker]

Well, Sweden was right about not locking down. It's in the graph. Look at the site I listed above.

So, maybe they are right about eating the moldy green cheese to get vaccinated. That is, if you believe they do this, lol.

You kinda remind me of Willis, the parroting alien, in Robert Heinlein's sci-fi book RED PLANET.

sweden is not safer due to moldy cheese

Lol. I would be surprised at somebody saying this... if it weren't you.

Sweden was safer because of faster herd immunity. But they weren't really much safer. Why not? Because the numbers have been manipulated. If they hadn't been manipulated, they would show that Covid isn't any more dangerous than the flu of any other year for anybody.

My question is, do you promote Covid propaganda out of ignorance, or because you are part of the Covid propaganda machine?

[Jet Cash]

I like mouldy cheese, and I know how to spell "mouldy"

Mature Stilton is great. It's a long time since I poured port into a round though.

I'm back in Asda for an experiment. That is another cafe with restricted WiFi, and no power sockets. Things are starting to open up slowly.

I've got a new theory about the virus as well. I believe it is a military creation, but it slipped out by accident. It isn't very serious, and it is very contagious. That is bad for the vaxers, as it spreads immunity, and then people don't need vaccinations. This seems to have created a panic in the Pharma world, but all those untested useless vaccines will probably do them more harm than good.

[franky1]

badecker flip:
covid isnt real.
badecker flop:
its real and has achieved herd immunity

badecker flip:
it hasnt acheived herd immunity because the government locked down cities
badecker flop:
government shouldnt have locked down because there is no pandemic

badecker flip:
covid is real and they can test it, but they are manipulating numbers saying people dying 'of' it, not 'with' it
badecker flop:
government are faking it all, theres no way to test for it they are making it all up

badecker flip
it said on some  fauxnews that car crash people are being classed as covid deaths
badecker flop
real news is saying people are dying due to respiratory infection symptoms and secondary related symptoms but they cant identify it


badecker flip:
it cant be identified
badecker flop:
it can be identified and it looks like something else

badecker flip
its not a virus its something else
badecker flop
people need to become immune to it
..
anyway while badecker flip flops and just cant grasp the basics
he wants immunity but then says its nothing important and that there is nothing to be immune against.
yet he then goes and tries talking people into swallowing glitter, bleach, lightbulbs and moldy cheese

so here is the thing
if badecker on his more lucid moments accepts there is a virus. and wants to say there is herd immunity.
he has to atleast at some point factor in that it does make some people sick..

otherwise if no one gets sick then there is nothing to pressure people into being immune against.
EG no threat=nothing needs to be done

once he grasps that a certain amount of people do get sick he has to realise that certain things need to be done to help reduce the amount of sick.

i know he will then bounce across to darwin and say survival of the fittest need to play out.
but at thi point he has to realise that he is just being immoral selfish idiot that doesnt care about human life

[BADecker]

badecker flip:
covid isnt real.
badecker flop:
its real and has achieved herd immunity

badecker flip:
it hasnt acheived herd immunity because the government locked down cities
badecker flop:
government shouldnt have locked down because there is no pandemic

badecker flip:
covid is real and they can test it, but they are manipulating numbers saying people dying 'of' it, not 'with' it
badecker flop:
government are faking it all, theres no way to test for it they are making it all up

badecker flip
it said on some  fauxnews that car crash people are being classed as covid deaths
badecker flop
real news is saying people are dying due to respiratory infection symptoms and secondary related symptoms but they cant identify it


badecker flip:
it cant be identified
badecker flop:
it can be identified and it looks like something else

badecker flip
its not a virus its something else
badecker flop
people need to become immune to it
..
anyway while badecker flip flops and just cant grasp the basics
he wants immunity but then says its nothing important and that there is nothing to be immune against.
yet he then goes and tries talking people into swallowing glitter, bleach, lightbulbs and moldy cheese

so here is the thing
if badecker on his more lucid moments accepts there is a virus. and wants to say there is herd immunity.
he has to atleast at some point factor in that it does make some people sick..

otherwise if no one gets sick then there is nothing to pressure people into being immune against.
EG no threat=nothing needs to be done

once he grasps that a certain amount of people do get sick he has to realise that certain things need to be done to help reduce the amount of sick.

i know he will then bounce across to darwin and say survival of the fittest need to play out.
but at thi point he has to realise that he is just being immoral selfish idiot that doesnt care about human life

Of course Covid is real. It's real exosomes, not a real virus.