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July 17, 2020, 11:19:26 PM
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Well, i found another thing that the  Cyprus users can't play on your site. Why don't you let your won country men to play on your site ?
This is from your FAQ page (https://loot.bet/blog/rules/faq)

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We do not provide services to citizens of the following countries:
Australia
Belize
Belarus
Cyprus
Malta
France and its territories
Netherlands and its territory, and countries within the Kingdom of the Netherlands
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
United States and its territories)

Happens all the time with different gambling platforms. It's probably because gambling is banned in Cyprus and the Countries listed there. This helps them avoid getting in trouble with Law enforcement authorities, so if anyone from Cyprus uses their website to gamble, they will be doing it at their own risk.

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July 17, 2020, 11:28:30 PM
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Welcome to the forum Smiley

Is the website Russian based? I don't have a good experience with Russian based gambling platforms, maybe you will be an exception.
What kind of bonus requirement do you apply for winnings?
BTW, why do you link shorteners instead of direct links to website?
-Site based of in Cyprus.
-When it comes to bonus requirement then its already stated on op.
-Is it really that much an issue? Anyone can use up link shorteners also the link tied up wasnt a referral link but rather
a tracking one.

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Last edit: July 18, 2020, 12:55:21 AM by logfiles
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BTW, why do you link shorteners instead of direct links to website?
The shortened link they used actually helps them track and be able to visits that have been made to their website over a period of time. This is not achievable with a direct link.

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July 18, 2020, 01:26:30 AM
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How far the KYC could help casino?  what is is kind violation which leads for ToS or fraud?
How could you confirming of data were valid. Do you get database people whole the planet?  Roll Eyes
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Last edit: July 18, 2020, 04:39:30 AM by Yabes
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I recommend  y'all for do not bet at these casino.
Cause you will killed by ToS :
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According to clause 9.2 of the Service Rules http://loot.bet/blog/rules/terms-and-conditions, there are no withdrawal commissions if you roll over (wager) the deposit 1 time. Otherwise we are entitled to deduct a 8% fee with minimum sum of 4 euro (or equivalent in your account currency) in order to combat money laundering

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Unique case >> https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/1654961/dont-use-lootbet-they-scam
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July 18, 2020, 06:02:02 AM
Last edit: July 18, 2020, 07:02:55 AM by LOOT.BET
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Any promotion coming ahead?
Yes, we are getting ready to launch a signature campaign! Date has not been confirmed yet.

What is is kind violation which leads for ToS or fraud?
Gambling companies have a stable structures and methods to identify a violation of their ToS. They are pretty unique for each service, so I can't shed any light on it.

Cause you will killed by ToS
This is a common AML procedure, as stated in your quote from ToS. We cannot change it due to the license regulations.

Regarding the thread you've linked, the year of 2018 has been pretty rough for us. We had a previous version of site with a lot of glitches very suitable for abuse. I cannot deny that bets have been removed, but users affected by this have been fully refunded. Moreover, we had to shut down our site for 3 months to roll out a new version from a scratch.

We've put a lot of effort during the last 2 years to make sure our quality and security for customers won't repeat a mistakes from the past. Our team works hard to launch a new features and continue the development process. I can gift a small freebet, so you can try it out by yourself and change your mind for the better Smiley

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July 18, 2020, 01:47:32 PM
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BTW, why do you link shorteners instead of direct links to website?
Some casinos do that to help them track the traffic which was mentioned earlier and on the first page. They're more comfortable doing that which is accessible than with their own link.

@OP, you should back this up with signature campaign to widen up sites exposure.
They've heard from you.  Cheesy

Yes, we are getting ready to launch a signature campaign! Date has not been confirmed yet.
If you need a campaign manager, choose someone like yahoo62278, he's been into campaign management for a long time including online casinos.

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July 18, 2020, 01:52:09 PM
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Made a deposit by ETH today and discovered, that it isn't possible to play any slots with that currency.
So, I decided to withdraw which wasn't possible, because of my unverified account.

@LOOT.BET Whats about your "No-KYC" promise??? The support agent wrote, that they don't know anything about that!
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July 18, 2020, 04:44:43 PM
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Well, i found another thing that the  Cyprus users can't play on your site. Why don't you let your won country men to play on your site ?
This is from your FAQ page (https://loot.bet/blog/rules/faq)

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We do not provide services to citizens of the following countries:
Australia
Belize
Belarus
Cyprus
Malta
France and its territories
Netherlands and its territory, and countries within the Kingdom of the Netherlands
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
United States and its territories)

Happens all the time with different gambling platforms. It's probably because gambling is banned in Cyprus and the Countries listed there. This helps them avoid getting in trouble with Law enforcement authorities, so if anyone from Cyprus uses their website to gamble, they will be doing it at their own risk.

If gambling is banned in Cyprus then how it is allowed to open an online casino in Cyprus ? The risk for having an online gambling site where the gambling is illegal is much bigger then the players playing at the site. I must say that they are very brave giving their contact number publicly on the site.

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This is very risky to make any deposits.
 I like the interface from the site, but personally I do not bet on Esports.

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This is very risky to make any deposits.
 I like the interface from the site, but personally I do not bet on Esports.


There are some concerns here that for the withdrawal you need to do the KYC and only then the withdrawal will be processed. Although this is not mentioned anywhere on the site. Rather the site claims that it is a NO KYC gambling site. I will like to hear official opinion on it before betting here.
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Made a deposit by ETH today and discovered, that it isn't possible to play any slots with that currency.
So, I decided to withdraw which wasn't possible, because of my unverified account.

@LOOT.BET Whats about your "No-KYC" promise??? The support agent wrote, that they don't know anything about that!
Our support team have not detected a question like yours today. Please leave me a DM with your LOOT.BET nickname for further investigation.

There are some concerns here that for the withdrawal you need to do the KYC and only then the withdrawal will be processed. Although this is not mentioned anywhere on the site. Rather the site claims that it is a NO KYC gambling site. I will like to hear official opinion on it before betting here.
We do require KYC for Fiat users and always mention that on appropriate pages. However, for crypto deposits and withdrawals we do not ask for KYC in 99% of cases.

We are going to update our UI as soon as possible to eliminate such misunderstandings for both kind of customers and make the experience better.

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There are some concerns here that for the withdrawal you need to do the KYC and only then the withdrawal will be processed. Although this is not mentioned anywhere on the site. Rather the site claims that it is a NO KYC gambling site. I will like to hear official opinion on it before betting here.
We do require KYC for Fiat users and always mention that on appropriate pages. However, for crypto deposits and withdrawals we do not ask for KYC in 99% of cases.
Well, this makes clear now that the KYC verifications are only for those who withdraw fiat. I think this is very common in a certain casino that accepting fiat to avoid money laundering of course. That was the most advantage in using online casinos and the cryptocurrency as well, --you were completely protecting your privacy rather than using fiat.

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Welcome to the forum Smiley

Is the website Russian based? I don't have a good experience with Russian based gambling platforms, maybe you will be an exception.
What kind of bonus requirement do you apply for winnings?
BTW, why do you link shorteners instead of direct links to website?
-Site based of in Cyprus.
-When it comes to bonus requirement then its already stated on op.
-Is it really that much an issue? Anyone can use up link shorteners also the link tied up wasnt a referral link but rather
a tracking one.
Thanks for info, actually I have found some traces linking the website to similar Russian based  gambling sites. My bad...
Bonus requirement rules can be different for crypto users(maybe?) or Bitcointalk exclusive deal is also possible.

BTW, why do you link shorteners instead of direct links to website?
The shortened link they used actually helps them track and be able to visits that have been made to their website over a period of time. This is not achievable with a direct link.
I have never thought this side but Brave has blocked this kind of third party cookies on my PC. I will try the website with Chrome and will share my feedback as soon as possible.

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July 18, 2020, 09:23:26 PM
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Why I haven't know this site?. It's mainly because the site didn't have much exposure to many people. I agree that you should have signature campaign to promote your site and have more exposure. I like gambling platform that accept fiat and also crypto. It is just sad that not many crypto enthusiast know much about this site. Welcome to the bitcointalk forum.

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July 18, 2020, 09:30:22 PM
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Why I haven't know this site?. It's mainly because the site didn't have much exposure to many people. I agree that you should have signature campaign to promote your site and have more exposure. I like gambling platform that accept fiat and also crypto. It is just sad that not many crypto enthusiast know much about this site. Welcome to the bitcointalk forum.
It isnt really that much popular here on cryptospace but if you do try to get out and try to search on how well-known this site is when it comes to esports betting then you will surely
say the different way around.

It is one of the most famous betting sites when it comes to e-sports, they've might not for them to be heard of on this market but on the other side, this one had been trusted and been used by many

and now they do extent out their market which i can say a really good move for them on trying to get crypto users specially to those who do bet on esports.
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July 18, 2020, 11:10:04 PM
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BTW, why do you link shorteners instead of direct links to website?
Some casinos do that to help them track the traffic which was mentioned earlier and on the first page. They're more comfortable doing that which is accessible than with their own link.

@OP, you should back this up with signature campaign to widen up sites exposure.
They've heard from you.  Cheesy

Yes, we are getting ready to launch a signature campaign! Date has not been confirmed yet.
If you need a campaign manager, choose someone like yahoo62278, he's been into campaign management for a long time including online casinos.

i would suggest the same manager. aside from managing your campaign the best way he can, he will help you earn trust from the community. furthermore, he will assist you in answering questions if he needs to. sometimes people need to calm down and remove their hesitation towards the new player in the forum. and if your campaign is handled by yahoo - people know that you are a trusted site because he only accepts a legit one.

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July 18, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
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Any promotion coming ahead?
Yes, we are getting ready to launch a signature campaign! Date has not been confirmed yet.

What is is kind violation which leads for ToS or fraud?
Gambling companies have a stable structures and methods to identify a violation of their ToS. They are pretty unique for each service, so I can't shed any light on it.

Cause you will killed by ToS
This is a common AML procedure, as stated in your quote from ToS. We cannot change it due to the license regulations.

Regarding the thread you've linked, the year of 2018 has been pretty rough for us. We had a previous version of site with a lot of glitches very suitable for abuse. I cannot deny that bets have been removed, but users affected by this have been fully refunded. Moreover, we had to shut down our site for 3 months to roll out a new version from a scratch.

We've put a lot of effort during the last 2 years to make sure our quality and security for customers won't repeat a mistakes from the past. Our team works hard to launch a new features and continue the development process. I can gift a small freebet, so you can try it out by yourself and change your mind for the better Smiley

Nice gesture for being honest from those previous mistakes, and basing from what you explained those affected gamblers was been refunded. The time that you spent for rebuilding your site is quite impressive and now you are here relaunching your service, it will be nice to see if how will you excel from the business and how will you handle every competitions from those old and reputable gambling house around.



Nice to know that there's a plan for advertising here thru signature campaign. Best of luck

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Basic on curacao licences has restricted those country. also loop.bet has rules
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Is the website Russian based?
the link on thread based on RU, just change EN language on top right for change it.



Bonus requirement rules can be different for crypto users(maybe?) or Bitcointalk exclusive deal is also possible.
seems bonus for fiat only, no crypto based on forum. https://loot.bet/promo#bets
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July 19, 2020, 12:59:17 AM
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BTW, why do you link shorteners instead of direct links to website?
The shortened link they used actually helps them track and be able to visits that have been made to their website over a period of time. This is not achievable with a direct link.

Much better if they used (utm_source) parameters to tell them where is the source of. their traffic. I think its a valid question.

Anyways, good luck it seems the site is really attractive and can compete with more established sports bookies like sportsbet.io. And if they are going to offer more attractive odds, they definitely it will be a plus for sports gamblers here.

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