miklesm
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July 31, 2020, 09:03:06 AM |
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The first thing you should pay attention when you join a Bounty campaign is a Manager. If he has a good reputation on Bitcointalk, it does not actually matters whether the thread is self moderated or not.
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robelneo
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July 31, 2020, 11:04:08 AM |
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It depends on who moderated it if the bounty manager is highly reputable I have no problem with that and his intention is to protect the campaign from spam and useless posts, I have participated on campaigns that were moderated by a bounty manager and things went smoothly but different if the bounty manager is part of the team, that is highly questionable.
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kaseygriffin
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July 31, 2020, 11:11:08 AM |
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No need to pay too much attention to the topic of moderation, you should care about the quality of the project and the bounty manager. If it is a good project and a reputable manager in this market then I believe you should participate in it without doubt.
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abel1337
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July 31, 2020, 11:18:52 AM |
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It depends on who moderated it if the bounty manager is highly reputable I have no problem with that and his intention is to protect the campaign from spam and useless posts, I have participated on campaigns that were moderated by a bounty manager and things went smoothly but different if the bounty manager is part of the team, that is highly questionable.
Right, Bounty manager is always placed on a neutral side between the team and the participants, The main job of the bounty manager between those two is to be fair with both. We do know that some participants who are hard-headed that didn't accept the fact that he got troubled or whatever the reason is with the bounty campaign is destroying the thread by posting unrealistic scam accusation that affects the bounty manager, team and the project itself. Most of the time the scam accusation is built with an oversized font and red color font. Also, scam accusations like that should be posted on the right board and not into a bounty thread for discussion.
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saint_casanova
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July 31, 2020, 01:00:39 PM |
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I dislike how a few bounty projects do this, allow bounty manager using the self-moderated feature on btt to delete and remove any post they dislike, especially shady project. Most telegram or discord channel already behave like this. The only place where you can freely criticize or ask any question regarding the project is in btt but if they using the self-moderated feature then you still have chance to warning other people by making a new thread.
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lizarder
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July 31, 2020, 01:15:41 PM |
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There really isn't basically saying scam. For ibidtowin itself, I think the project is a little suspicious and yes it comes from Vietnam, most of bounty projects originating from there now are not many good ones, for example Bcnex case that ended as scam project, self moderated is actually suitable for use because sometimes there are many spammer bots that make submissions it is not clear and if used self moderate this will be good for bounty managers because they can delete their submissions.
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Beparanf
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July 31, 2020, 01:19:08 PM |
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No need to pay too much attention to the topic of moderation, you should care about the quality of the project and the bounty manager. If it is a good project and a reputable manager in this market then I believe you should participate in it without doubt.
What matter most is the project itself and how they will going to pay, sometimes bounty managers have no say in payment when the project fails so it's better to have escrow if the bounty manager is not yet established or does not have any trust rating to risk. If they are old in forum and seems to know the project pretty well and know how to manage then it's good to give it a try especially now that it's hard to be accepted in campaigns that are paying weekly.
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FairUser
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July 31, 2020, 01:22:39 PM |
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No need to pay too much attention to the topic of moderation, you should care about the quality of the project and the bounty manager. If it is a good project and a reputable manager in this market then I believe you should participate in it without doubt.
Absolutely agree with your comments, we must care about that project. If they are a good and potential project, I believe that their bounty will be successful and help the bounty hunter to profit from it.
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sayulita
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July 31, 2020, 01:23:22 PM |
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Self moderated bounty threads is a bad move for the bounty manager and the project itself, bounty manager might have reasons for using self moderated but I don't see it's usefulness because even if the thread isn't self moderated the BM can still remove any unwanted questions or posts
in my opinion they use Self-moderated to look better and look legitimate, just to manipulate a few participants, but somehow we are still careful in choosing the bounty before joining Everyone here loves fair criticism and no one false accuses people here, so why would someone have a self moderated thread for a bounty campaign where everyone like fair policies towards everyone. The self moderated threads of a bounty campaign and announcement threads too for the same campaign having self moderation aren't good indicators of a healthy business, if they want to look legitimate then they should show it by their handwork and actions, not by making self moderated topics, this suppresses free speech imho.
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Lantind
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July 31, 2020, 01:25:39 PM |
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in my opinion they use Self-moderated to look better and look legitimate, just to manipulate a few participants, but somehow we are still careful in choosing the bounty before joining
Yes, that is in your opinion, and if in my opinion it is also almost the same as you said, because the project that uses Self-Moderated is only to prove that their project is good and good, even though Self-Moderated does not follow the project and they dare provide payment for Self-Moderated in this case.
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Rodeo02
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July 31, 2020, 01:43:32 PM |
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Only projects that have something to hide use self moderated bounty thread, they use this to avoid any strict questions from members of the forum, I don't have any reasons to trust projects or bounties that use self moderated thread
its ok to have this as long as the project have announcement thread that not self moderated so what ever question should be asked directly in announcement thread . However if the project doesn't have any announcement in this forum then there something they want to hide if they make it self moderated.
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princecharles
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July 31, 2020, 01:54:22 PM |
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
Thanks for the heads up, I was sincerely going to participate in the ibidtowin project, infact I've already posted my proof of Authentication, but was procrastinating when to write the article. I recently noticed that the bounty manager has a red trust and was accused by about 4 different users. I didn't notice that the thread was self moderated. It's nice to be informed before hand. Most of those bounties would end up parting away with hunters funds as they have no reputation in the first place to protect.
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Raflesia
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July 31, 2020, 02:28:17 PM |
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There really isn't basically saying scam. For ibidtowin itself, I think the project is a little suspicious and yes it comes from Vietnam, most of bounty projects originating from there now are not many good ones, for example Bcnex case that ended as scam project, self moderated is actually suitable for use because sometimes there are many spammer bots that make submissions it is not clear and if used self moderate this will be good for bounty managers because they can delete their submissions.
But I am suspicious that with this project ibidtowin will refer to the ponzi scheme that already has its catch, then where do they say it is not a scam? I really can't believe what they have to offer in the product and it doesn't look interesting enough so from the need to avoid bounties like this so don't be tempted by $ 10,000 that is too small for hunters. Catch of the ibidtowin project https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262615.msg54807819#msg54807819
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July 31, 2020, 02:30:11 PM |
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
Yeah, I actually have not seen a bounty project that had a successful run, and most of the time bounty hunters had so many concerns regarding the rewards or staking or anything lacking with they activities. I hope to see the Bitcointalk to implements, that every Project that will hold their bounty campaign should be handled by respectable Bounty Managers and the allocation should be scrowed to guarantee bounty hunter's rewards.
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killerfrost
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July 31, 2020, 02:38:59 PM |
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
ibidtowin is a ponzi project, and it was tagged by DT member in this forum. Stay away from this project and all ponzi projects, don't try to promote it. In addition, he created a censorship topic that made many people doubt about the quality of the project and in the end it was a scam.
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arufox
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July 31, 2020, 02:46:40 PM |
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I think it depends on the bounty manager, because sometimes professional bounty manager also doing self moderated thread. But if new managers or managers from their own, we must ask, why did he do that, if for good purpose, that's good because sometimes newbie post spam report in bounty thread and self moderated will help manager to clean the thread
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thesmallgod
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July 31, 2020, 02:47:25 PM |
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While your narrative may be through, self moderated topics give the thread poster to be able to edit all the post on the thread without any approval from the posters. This sometime help moderator to take care of spam messages that are being posted. If your comment was deleted, it means the bounty manager see it as inappropriate and this doesn't mean self moderated topics are not bad or that all bounty managers use to do the same
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poodle63
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July 31, 2020, 03:11:11 PM |
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It's no wonder and there have been many cases like this before. actually joined bounty managed by their own team has enough risk in between. - lock thread bounty - lock ann thread - manipulate spreadsheets - reduce bounty allocation - not pay participants
I've been into that kind of bounty campaign too, there were many bounty hunters didn't get paid and the campaign that we're participating was just faking everything. that's why so many people have called a bounty thread that fully moderated can be used to fool the hunters. So many times the scam projects were using this method to remove any bad post about the project to give awareness for everyone. I think that so many negativity for moderated bounty thread.
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radjie
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July 31, 2020, 09:52:34 PM |
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
that's why we should avoid projects like this, if from the beginning we find suspicion about the campaign thread that is moderated by the gift manager or there is a quote from the gift manager whenever the rules change, you should never join a prize like this, because there will usually be fraud about prize allocations that can be reduced for some reason or even do not pay the participant one bit. Such campaign programs only spend time for participants who join to promote related platforms
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