Dev and team, show some care

[Dondeon]

I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.

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[Coyster]

Your thread won't stop scam bounty devs/team from their exit scam scheme, you could prolly be saying the truth when you say they need the hunters as well, but payment comes after the bounty is over, after the long weeks of advertisement, and many times, extending the campaign for a longer time; after that, the developers who are shady do not need the bounty hunters anymore, they have already executed their perfect scam and they take a bow with their exit along with investors money.

[erikoy]

actually they show care to all who join in their.channel. they.consider all in it as investors. However they will be showing their atitude after they will be closing the crowdsourcing period. The mood will change and will gone saying that project has failed. This is always what I hate on doing bounty campaigns. You work for few weeks or even month but they rewards you small amount or nothing at all. So, you are wrong OP because they share care for they needed your support to get more funds from the crowd and after than they juat run away with the money.

[0verseer]

Some bounty projects or bounty managers never consider others equally. The relationship between bounty hutters and bounty project is a give and take with both equally. One needs to spread the news of their crypto project so they want a lot of people to promote their crypto while one just doing their job and takes a fair share for their effort. Yes, simple give and take so both parties should come to the point to understand and respect the others.

[ScamViruS]

I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.

This system has been around for a long time. When Bounty launches, they want more people to join their Bounty. This will allow them to reach more people with their project. But when it comes to bounty payments, they try to cut payments with a variety of issues. Which is a very bad thing for Bounty Hunters. I would say, before joining any bounty, one should do a good check on that project. Because if there is an unprofessional team of that project then it is understood from the beginning. They will use every system to eliminate the Hunters. So if you always support a good project, the amount of cheating is less.

[btcltcdigger]

Red pill time;

Over 50% of all bounty participants are alt accounts. This is a fact. Some are clever and make sure they can't be traced, some just don't care or have so many alts that they slip up and get caught.
Why do they do it? Greed.

Just look at latest scandal that hit the forum, Polar91 and his 100+ accounts. It took some time to expose them, but in the end, he slipped up and puzzle pieces started connecting.

So in conclusion, once you see these stats, it's hard to believe stuff around bounty. Especially when you see 10 accounts pming you, with same grammar mistakes

I'm affraid that it's not only project team to blame, but hunters as well. Some of them ruin it for the legit ones. That's the sad truth. That's why more and more projects ask for any kind of kyc.

[semobo]

I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.

No one forces you to join on bounties either then why you are looking for someone to care for you.They are in such place so you actually need to move out of bounties if you don't like that being treated in that way.Make demand for the bounty hunters then they will look for the hunters or else they will treat you like this one and on.

[Slow death]

I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.

I once commented on these kinds of problems and I think the solution is in the forum administrator to force all campaigns to be paid in bitcoin and weekly to prevent these damn creators of new altcoins from taking advantage of people and then refuse to pay. if it were in the real world they would have to pay and in the real world it doesn’t work like this: "advertise my project, which I will pay later when I launch the project" so, why is this allowed here? I think this system is wrong

[tabas]

You should think of them that don't care with their investors. They create tokens from thin air and they have nothing to offer in real life after purchasing those tokens that they've made. Don't join them if you think that the developers of that bounty do look down to bounty hunters.
You have a choice for each opportunity that comes and not all of those opportunities can be found in bounties.

[disconnectme]

I think bounty hunters need to help themselves. Stop doing campaign or promoting any project you do not trust the bounty manager, most of the time it is not the fault of the team or developers but the bounty managers that sell themselves cheap. Also some bounty hunters do not help matter causing unnecessary problem for the bounty managers

[Slow death]

Here is not intended to participate in insulting bounty hunters because I myself still participate in bounty campaign activities too, in my opinion, there are reasons why there are still many projects that insult bounty hunter

1. I think because bounty hunter is the main cause of token dump even though it depends on the allocation and liquidity project itself

2. Most bounty hunters work in spam, for example in creating article content, blogs, if you observe that 80% of the content is spin article and the level of similarity is very high on social media as well if you see Twitter tweets, Facebook status content is almost same as copywriting and I think this makes them angry

3. I think the cause they don't like bounty hunters because spam is often done especially about bounty distribution. Sometimes there are some hunters who spam main telegram project group by asking when bounty distribution. in fact, if they reading in bounty thread or in special bounty group all detail is clear.

you can bet all these points, but the fact is that these creators of new altcoins do not like to pay people who sacrifice so much to promote their product and worse than most of the time these new altcoins are listed in shitty exchanges or ask for participants to do KYC, this system is very wrong

They create tokens from thin air and they have nothing to offer in real life after purchasing those tokens that they've made.

I think it’s only fair that they pay in bitcoin and weekly

[Twentyonepaylots]

Actually they care, but only at first when they need bounty hunters, after some time they will start ignoring your inquiries about the project development. I've experienced this a lot way back when I was bounty hunting about 2 years ago, whenever I ask something on their telegram channel they will ask you first if you are an investor or a bounty hunter, once they get to know where you belong they will transfer you to the bounty telegram channel with one UNRESPONSIVE administrator, his job? he will only post a monthly update. So I guess for now project reputation is a must for a bounty hunter, I bet you all lived with a year having less $100 on your address.

[doctor877]

it wont still change the habits of some bad project teams. the only lasting solution is to have an escrow system that will have all the coins and make sure payment is done. this will save the hunters from doing a free work and also for the team to have a good job done for them.

[btcholder]

Well not every projects team/dev are same but yes now days maximum projects team/dev treat bounty hunters like a thief. When they start campaign they have not much issue but when time come for payment they trying to show many excuses. Even many projects directly scam hunters. A very good example for that is "DigitalBits" project. I heard they didn't gave bounty hunters payment from very long time and after that they scammed bounty hunters. People should be aware from this kinda project.

[coinporch]

I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.

thats why if you want to join any bounty campaign, you must doing a research my friend
choose only a good bounty project with serious, professional and honest team, just my opinion

[Sebas.tian]

They would love to be,  but because of their greediness they Won't. Project team should be happy when their project is seeing the best light from investors. Sometimes, even when their project is successful they tend not to pay those who brought them the luck. Project team should encourage bounty hunters, either by making a compulsory escrow services available for the hunter's.

[Shallow]

It is now like a norm and there seems to be no solution to it. But what baffles me is that, during the bounty campaign, they don't say a word nor comment on the work been carried out but once all is over, they will now start showing their true colour such that those who never asked for kyc will then initiate one and when asked they refers the participants to the rules guiding the bounty and even at that, they might still not pay. Many projects have denied hunters there rewards for a long time now and nothing was ever said about it, at the same time there are project team who see it as nothing to reward their bounty hunters; thus one can see that it varies from team to team.

[shollyen]

No one can stop them, except bounty hunters have same voice or better still, except the funds to be paid to bounty hunters are escrowed, in a way in which they have no say or power to withdraw the fund.
They know that bounty hunters are very useful to their projects, yet they act as though they are nothing to them. This act will not come up at the beginning and neither will you noticeit at the middle, but immediately they get what they wanted, they begin to show attitudes.

[Rengga Jati]

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This has been always happening and actually no need to complain anymore. We are all bounty hunters who may have known about this happening several times. But let's see from a two-sides point of view.
1. Bounty hunter views
We have worked several weeks or months hardly to fulfill all the requirements by the BM as good as possible, avoiding spam posts and many others. But, in the middle of the campaign or at the end of the campaign, the rules changed. Well, actually they have noticed previously at the beginning that the team can change the T&C and we cannot complain for it. Moreover, after the end of the campaign, there are so many requirements addition to being given staring from KYC, fulfilling form, proof of work, and many others. And we must wait for months to get the rewards. And after waiting for months, we are excluded as the participants that accept the rewards. It hurts. Yeah, it really hurts and it may often happen so far.

2. Team perspective
However, aside from that, we must also see from the perspective of the team. They may have certain considerations why should tighten the rules and also T&C of claiming the rewards.

....So in conclusion, once you see these stats, it's hard to believe stuff around bounty. Especially when you see 10 accounts pming you, with same grammar mistakes
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This is what I mean. they do this because of this kind of condition. there are so many multi-accounts that join in similar bounty campaigns and the team should clear of this. They have the data and they may also know the alt-accounts in their projects. therefore, they tighten the rules to get the rewards.

Although it may not be fair for other bounty participants that are actually honest, this is their real fact.

Moreover, after the bounty has ended, it doesn't mean that the program is ended. We must be also active to check and recheck the bounty thread announcement or in the telegram group to see the progress and also additional rules to be submitted or done by the bounty hunters. Commonly, many bounty hunters will leave the projects when it has ended and they will come back if they are no qualified for the rewards because they miss the information to do more things before the distribution.

[Tipstar]

Most of the times these projects are those that are badly executed. There are rare events of a successful project crying out about bounty hunters.
Though filtering out multiple users and plagiarized content are good for bounty hunter themselves, it's not good to blame every participants for some bots and scammers. Bounty manager ofcourse has a greater role to act both as a bridge between devs and participants as well to keep bots and scammers out of the campaign.