Quality War ( Europe vs China and India )

[jademaxsuy]

China products are cheaper but quality? No, most of their product made like disposable once damage then you need to buy again. Besides, because it is cheaper the material being used compromised. China has the worst product here in our place but the most in demand because other products are expensive compared to them. Indian products i bet not too strong like japan and us products especially when it comes to equipment.

[bryant.coleman]

But they have narrowed their gap with the Korean brands, such as LG and Samsung. I have used Chinese (Xiaomi) and Korean (LG) brands, and I can confirm this.

It is true that Chinese products really raised the bar in that budget/best buy segment, and they do offer a lot for the money. I personally use few Xiaomi products (scale, Xiaomi Mi Box and Smartphone) and I am generally satisfied with the quality, especially considering the price, their products are really good value for the money. But if I want top quality, I have to look elsewhere. At least for now, unless they tackle that part of the market too. I remember times when Samsung phones were considered crappy and cheap, when Nokia ruled the market, and we can see now how situation changed.

If you are talking about the smartphone sector, then no other brand can give you the same quality that Apple (iPhone) offers. So if you want the best quality, then you go for this American brand. Xiaomi started off as a budget smartphone brand. But they have rapidly expanded in to the other niches. I haven't got a chance to use Mi Note 10 till now, but I have heard very good reviews for that phone. Same with their TVs as well. My friend is using their 65 inch 4k UHD TV and he's quite satisfied with the quality.

[Shasha80]

The advantage of Chinese products is the cheap price, but of course the quality is much better European products.
All customers in the world acknowledge this, I come from a poor country so many use products made in China.
And I am also satisfied with the quality, but that does not make the quality of Chinese products better than Europe.

[teosanru]

Fourthly, in India most of the population don't even touch any kind of non vegetarian food and follows a perfect vegetarian diet so should we consider ourselves superior than Europeans?
Europeans and Americans have long been in some sort of hype about their supermacy. Now if two new countries whom they labelled third world are actually beating their Economy they are talking about protectionism.

You guys poop on beaches ... and you eat with your hands ... you Indians should be the last persons on earth that give morals about hygiene ...

Here is the proof  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJgY2VSct0

And here comes an illiterate European who would just counter everything by saying no no we are great see this youtube video. I gave you 5 arguments and your best answer was? You eat with hands you are unhygienic 😂grow up man there are companies who claim to kill 99.99% germs from your hands. So what's the problem in eating with hands if your hands are clean?

Your second point, It's just 5% of the population which does this poop on beaches/public places and that is not due to choice but due to poverty. It's not that a person wakes up and thinks that let's go to beach today for a poop. And atleast you don't talk about toiletry hygeine you people don't even wash after sitting.

But point of the post wasn't this. You just don't understand things spy. Leave it if you can't debate on facts and are going to debate on youtube videos. Coronavirus has clearly depicted how great Europe is.

[crzy]

The advantage of Chinese products is the cheap price, but of course the quality is much better European products.
All customers in the world acknowledge this, I come from a poor country so many use products made in China.
And I am also satisfied with the quality, but that does not make the quality of Chinese products better than Europe.

With the Chinese mass production, I can say that we don't have any choice but to buy Chinese products because that is available everywhere in my country and its really cheap. Also, there's an expensive item to buy like Nike or other things, but if you see its manufacturing details you'll see that it is made from China and that didn't make sense to buy expensive things. Indian products are best only to them, I didn't know my country are importing goods from them maybe aside oil but other than that China dominates our market.

[iv4n]

Quality... we had quality before, when everything was made to last! Today nothing is made to last, it's made to look good and to last year or two, after that you will have to buy another one. Consumer based society, what else to say about that?!
Quality can be found in little businesses, handicrafts, homemade products, when people made for themselves, and they have something for selling. They have quality, and in most cases they are more expensive of course!

[abhiseshakana]

The advantage of Chinese products is the cheap price, but of course the quality is much better European products.
All customers in the world acknowledge this, I come from a poor country so many use products made in China.
And I am also satisfied with the quality, but that does not make the quality of Chinese products better than Europe.

China has never objected to being an imitating nation, China is also relaxed with the nickname of a country producing cheap goods, China also ignored the ridicule as a communist country with an authoritarian system. For China to imitate it was the beginning of success, from copying to modifying and finally being able to innovate. Besides the fact that Chinese goods are indeed accepted throughout the world despite being known as low quality goods.

China is not the most benefited by the corona pandemic. In fact, China is disadvantaged by the disruption of global supply chains because China is the world's manufacturing center at the moment for finished goods and semi-finished goods which are components or raw materials for other countries' industries. Besides that China is not the creator of the world economic system, so it cannot reset the world economy. China only saved the pass from Trump who couldn't control the game.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Quality... we had quality before, when everything was made to last! Today nothing is made to last, it's made to look good and to last year or two, after that you will have to buy another one. Consumer based society, what else to say about that?!
Quality can be found in little businesses, handicrafts, homemade products, when people made for themselves, and they have something for selling. They have quality, and in most cases they are more expensive of course!

Quality is important and there is no doubt about it. But who will purchase a quality product, if the pricing is very unaffordable? Electronic items such as Apple iPhones are being regarded as status symbols and a lot of people purchase them for that purpose. But IMO, they are very much over-priced. A smartphone from the Chinese brands, having the same specs can be purchased at 1/5th or 1/6th of the price of an iPhone. And the quality of these phones are not that bad. They may last only 2 years average, compared to 5-6 years for an iPhone. But even considering that, the latter option represents a better deal.

[Reid]

Quantity, not quality.

Maybe they just forgot about that.
Most services that need jobs to be finished fast go to India.
Most products that need to be produced in huge amounts go to China.

If its quality you want, you don't go to both of them.
Or, you will need to pay again for a Quality Analyst which is difficult to find.
The better option is to pay higher and expect quality and quantity.

[elisabetheva]

Quantity, not quality.

Maybe they just forgot about that.
Most services that need jobs to be finished fast go to India.
Most products that need to be produced in huge amounts go to China.

If its quality you want, you don't go to both of them.
Or, you will need to pay again for a Quality Analyst which is difficult to find.
The better option is to pay higher and expect quality and quantity.

that all can determine what they want to do with their own desires without anyone else can forbid.
because all decisions are in the possession of money that may determine. what everyone needs is certainly different and that is a natural thing.

I agree with your opinion that quality is certainly different from quantity, what you are looking for will determine where you want to go next.
in quantity obviously China is more dominant and you can get it at a friendly price.
but if you are looking for quality, of course you will go to Europe and the US because there is the center, but must remember that more funds are needed to get it.

[Rosilito]

I'm quite aware with European products but haven't used them as much as I had with Chinese products. With my experience with Chinese products, well, some of them really suck. Yeah, not all, I have some items here that I bought several years ago that, fortunately, I'm still enjoying up until now. Not tryin' to support them or anything, but even though the market of the country I'm residing in were pretty much controlled by poor Chinese products, still they can make/produce a good one, and you cannot exclude that away with them.

However,  if I had to choose between the two. Well, I'm in favor of European products, as I haven't heard any issues of them making a low quality products unlike China that have been in many news for ages.

[Pamadar]

The advantage of Chinese products is the cheap price, but of course the quality is much better European products.

Mass productions wise, China have lower labor cost the very reason for businesses to import but quality wise european made is far better.

All customers in the world acknowledge this, I come from a poor country so many use products made in China.

It's almost everywhere, china made products are being adopt by more companies nowadays.

And I am also satisfied with the quality, but that does not make the quality of Chinese products better than Europe.

Even it's branded the quality is really more reliable with products that being manufactured from european countries.

[hulla]

The advantage of Chinese products is the cheap price, but of course the quality is much better European products.

Mass productions wise, China have lower labor cost the very reason for businesses to import but quality wise european made is far better.

Despite the fact that India and China produce huge numbers of engineering and industrial study every year, China quality cant match up with the European but I dont understand the reason why @Shasha80 believe the Chinese product to be more quality than the European product when statistics shows that 2.3 Million or more of the Chinese professional workers moved to Europe especially France.

All customers in the world acknowledge this, I come from a poor country so many use products made in China.

It's almost everywhere, china made products are being adopt by more companies nowadays.

Thats because they are the cheapest product in the marker which serves as perfect alternatives. Ask yourself, why most things we buy today not better than the 19's ?

And I am also satisfied with the quality, but that does not make the quality of Chinese products better than Europe.

Even it's branded the quality is really more reliable with products that being manufactured from european countries.

No, they are never reliable and it like BTC versus Altcoins.

[DaveF]

It has been mentioned, but I'll put it out there again. A lot comes down to price point.
China can and does produce some high quality items.
But, as the quality increases so does the price. You need better materials to start with, better machinery to build it, better trained / more skilled workers. Etc.

So if you want the cheap version $5.00 item for $1.00 then yes China can do that for you. If you want the better made higher quality $5.00 for $5.00 they can do that for you too. Same as anyplace else.
And then they will kick your ass anyway because between China / India / the entire Asian area they have much higher population then Europe / North America / etc. So they can do the mass production thing and get costs down just due to the larger market.

-Dave

[tbterryboy]

My Fellow Europeans

Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ...

What do you say to them ?

“Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkOUfrnSNSs

Hmmm... When it comes the country that makes better products, I will probably give it to Japan, I believe they make strong and durable products. I am not from any of these countries, but I have used products that came from them and based on what I have seen, there is no doubt Japan is definitely the best thing. The thing with European products is that they are usually costly, well... They are usually worth the extra bucks. As for Chinese and Indian products (I rarely see products made in India, it’s mostly made in China), they are always cheap but they do not last for a long time.

I heard that recently India is trying to take the place of China in terms of supplying basic and raw materials and equipment but not sure India will be capable of that. China is leading in that industry due to their population and big land area and dictatorship government whereas India is having only big population which makes them unable to compete against county like China.

[darewaller]

You see the ego problem has hit you as well. I mean maybe they are making better or inferior products or maybe not but they are neither forcing you to buy them nor you are liable to buy their product and this ego is the main problem in the market right now.

China we all know make products that are cheap and once you buy products that are cheap you are going to compromise with the quality and I do not see any problem with it.

I don't understand why people are so egoistic based on their country or region because you are blessed you are born there doesn't mean you humiliate people who are born in other parts.

[dothebeats]

Quality and everything rightfully belongs to the Japanese, I think. They really excel in craftsmanship and all aspects of production so I think, no contest and without any doubt, they are the masters of craftsmanship. Though for comparison between the 3 countries, the Europeans really have some quality products on their side, followed by India and lastly China. Don't get me wrong, the Chinese are basically the producers of almost all raw materials needed for most things, but their final products are really just too bad that most people often ignore using them. India on the other hand, has some good products but they are very few, or are seldom exported to other countries. Bottomline is, people can choose whatever they want, and unsurprisingly, they are getting knock-off brands from China since it serves them the purpose of what they want done. There isn't any problem to me personally as long as one thing does what it's intended to do, even if it's fake or cheap or low-quality. It may break faster than the original but seriously, China has upped its game when it comes to production so I guess its products will have more reliability compared to what it has years back.

[CarnagexD]

It has been mentioned, but I'll put it out there again. A lot comes down to price point.
China can and does produce some high quality items.
But, as the quality increases so does the price. You need better materials to start with, better machinery to build it, better trained / more skilled workers. Etc.

The problem is that China is dominant over this stuff, that if they messed up and so does everything will be messed up too. I've seen some videos from China, and seeing their factories amazes me it is huge and full of workers, and found a separate video of chinese workers doing their job like no one else can. Can we based this on nationality? - NO, but rather on how strict you are to your employee the more open you are to them they will take the job for granted. Make money hard to earn.

So if you want the cheap version $5.00 item for $1.00 then yes China can do that for you. If you want the better made higher quality $5.00 for $5.00 they can do that for you too. Same as anyplace else.
And then they will kick your ass anyway because between China / India / the entire Asian area they have much higher population then Europe / North America / etc.

The quality of living matters here, $1 is just like $3 for the americans, they are paid for more than $50 per day for a day of work unlike in asian country that could only costs $12 minimum.

[panganib999]

Actually I am not from any European countries because I currently reside in Asia. But I have heard of the products from Europe which I can say that they are really of a high quality since Western countries are also well-known for good quality products. With regards to quality of products between India and China, I have tried and known many products coming from China but from India, I haven't even try one so I cannot say anything about that.

Products of China are known to be generic in a concept that they are of a low quality which I mostly heard from my fellow men here in our country and that is what the general thought that came in whenever they saw or heard that a product is "Made from China". But little they do know that most gadgets and technologies coming from Western countries are being assembled in China because of small cost of labor and have advance technology to do such task. What I can say is that products coming from China do have quality not that poor and not that so good. It is just in between. The problem is that people just have generic identification of China's products to low quality because of rotating murmurs and rumors making a bad impression about it.

Actually it is normal whenever you buy in the market that if you pay for a low cost, expect to get a low quality of product. Maybe those came from China because of small cost of labor and massive production of products. But there are still good products you can buy in good quality but of course with a higher price. It just shows the rational relationship of price to quality. Good price then good quality, low price then low quality.

[slapper]

Competition makes it good cheaper with better quality. War is not a good thing unless it benefits all the people around the world. Right now, we only have one enemy, and its the COVID. The commercial fight between US and China as well as China vs India is making things cheaper and easier to buy. As I have heard, many Western products are imported from Asia at a very cheap price. And then they pump the price up to 500% for profit and taxation.

According to recent movement, many factories from several countries are leaving China. They aim to build new factories in Vietnam, Thailand, etc. I believe that this behavior will make our economy stronger. The less powerful China is, the more flexible the world will be. The international equitable economy is what we are aiming for. Freedom will give everyone chances to improve either themselves and their civilization