Confiscated balance at sportsbet.io

[baikov]

Hello! I deposited 70eur to my account and got 370eur after some winnings. After I tried to withdraw for the first time ever and got my withdrawal rejected. I was asked to complete KYC procedure. I sent my local (Russian) passport and bank statement. After that I was asked to complete KYC using Veriff, where I took a picture with my international passport. After a few days security department asked me if I have any other account, which I actually just do not need. After I answered and waited some more days they asked if I know some other players and sent me their accounts (nicknames), which I saw for the first time because I didn’t know any other guys who use their service. After I answered they told that i am trying to launder money and that they will only send my deposit back. I am really angry because they blocked my account and I didn’t receive my winnings! HELP ME PLEASE!

[actmyname]

Can you provide any evidence of these claims? Screenshots, account page, emails, etc.

It's always better to have more backing your scam accusation than to have just your written words. Interesting how these cases are starting to appear more often... or perhaps, just being reported more often?

[baikov]

Can you provide any evidence of these claims? Screenshots, account page, emails, etc.

It's always better to have more backing your scam accusation than to have just your written words. Interesting how these cases are starting to appear more often... or perhaps, just being reported more often?

I made deposit with my card: https://prnt.sc/tqgw6q

Got my withdraw rejected and was asked to complete KYC using Veriff, but after that I had this messages: https://prnt.sc/tqgx4g and https://prnt.sc/tqgxrt

I asked for any evidence because I really do not know anybody from the listed usernames, but they didn’t show any. This is so crazy, that I posted my review everywhere I could... I can’t show my account page because it was blocked after their messages.

[owlcatz]

Jesus christ. This shit again?

@sportsbet.io ? Where are you?! 

[dragonvsandroid]

This doesn't look good. Yet another Sportsbet.io accusation of a winner withdrawing their winnings and being accused of multi-accounting without any evidence provided  

Let's not forget they used to publically provide evidence of why KYC had failed, as well as evidence of multi-accounting. Now they no longer do, instead they just ignore these requests  

I'm starting to wonder if they would be more responsive to scam accusations without current DT support? It's hard not to imagine they would be providing evidence to clear their name if certain flags were active against their account. There is little to no incentive for them to do this at present unfortunately.

Anyone opposing their flags better hope they are sitting on evidence. Otherwise it facilities a gambling site to refuse withdrawals of winners whenever they feel like it, just by referencing a handful of other random players. It's a dangerous precedent to be setting.

But hey, their T&C covers it right so nothing to worry about?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0

[sportsbet.io]

Hello,

Can you please let me know your user name and I will check it out for you?

regards,

Steve,
sportsbet.io

[sportsbet.io]

This doesn't look good. Yet another Sportsbet.io accusation of a winner withdrawing their winnings and being accused of multi-accounting without any evidence provided  

Let's not forget they used to publically provide evidence of why KYC had failed, as well as evidence of multi-accounting. Now they no longer do, instead they just ignore these requests  

I'm starting to wonder if they would be more responsive to scam accusations without current DT support? It's hard not to imagine they would be providing evidence to clear their name if certain flags were active against their account. There is little to no incentive for them to do this at present unfortunately.

Anyone opposing their flags better hope they are sitting on evidence. Otherwise it facilities a gambling site to refuse withdrawals of winners whenever they feel like it, just by referencing a handful of other random players. It's a dangerous precedent to be setting.

But hey, their T&C covers it right so nothing to worry about?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0

Hi please be advised we appreciate account and user security and we do not wish to put the dirty laundry out in the public.

There is no doubt that there is connect between the recent "oh my god, sportsbet.io is stealing from me" and the price increase in bitcoin

I hope this is not the case here and it is a clear multi accounting issue, but lets see

regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

[dragonvslinux]

This doesn't look good. Yet another Sportsbet.io accusation of a winner withdrawing their winnings and being accused of multi-accounting without any evidence provided  

Let's not forget they used to publically provide evidence of why KYC had failed, as well as evidence of multi-accounting. Now they no longer do, instead they just ignore these requests  

I'm starting to wonder if they would be more responsive to scam accusations without current DT support? It's hard not to imagine they would be providing evidence to clear their name if certain flags were active against their account. There is little to no incentive for them to do this at present unfortunately.

Anyone opposing their flags better hope they are sitting on evidence. Otherwise it facilities a gambling site to refuse withdrawals of winners whenever they feel like it, just by referencing a handful of other random players. It's a dangerous precedent to be setting.

But hey, their T&C covers it right so nothing to worry about?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0

Hi please be advised we appreciate account and user security and we do not wish to put the dirty laundry out in the public.

There is no doubt that there is connect between the recent "oh my god, sportsbet.io is stealing from me" and the price increase in bitcoin

I hope this is not the case here and it is a clear multi accounting issue, but lets see

regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

Hi Steve, same person here, just multi-accounting  

It's good to hear your response in this thread, as well as the other. I understand there would be a correction between bitcoin go up and someone got my bitcoin and I want it back, it's a valid point. I think most users (bar the accusers) are hoping there is clear evidence of multi-accounting, this would resolve the matter swiftly and definitively.

I've reached out to who I believe are "shitik88" and "rasmus15", two of the four accused as part of the multi-account ring, since a bit of dirty laundry got aired in public.
Reference: https://prnt.sc/tqgx4g fom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265366.msg54893612#msg54893612

Given the unique enough usernames and from a quick google search, I think it's fair to assume they are these individuals:
shitik88: https://www.instagram.com/shitik88 & https://www.youtube.com/user/shitik88
rasmus15: https://www.instagram.com/rasmus15/, https://github.com/Rasmus15 & https://soundcloud.com/rasmus15
as well as possibly newer accounts https://www.instagram.com/rasmus15.11/, https://www.tiktok.com/@rasmus15.11 & https://urlebird.com/user/rasmus15.11/

I've messaged them both via Instagram, in the hope they will respond and out of courtesy. I didn't bother with the other two referenced accounts, as the names appear too generic. shitik88 uploaded a photo 2 days ago, but rasmus15 hasn't for years. I realise it's a stab in dark here, but can't imagine there are too many rasmus' that desire no.15 after their usernames. or shitik's that chose 88, but could be wrong. At least a quick search doesn't appear to prove otherwise...

[baikov]

Hello,

Can you please let me know your user name and I will check it out for you?

regards,

Steve,
sportsbet.io

My username was "baikov", before you blocked my account and I couldn’t even log in. And I am not interested in the bitcoin rise, because I used Russian rubles to top up my balance and played using euros.

[sportsbet.io]

This doesn't look good. Yet another Sportsbet.io accusation of a winner withdrawing their winnings and being accused of multi-accounting without any evidence provided  

Let's not forget they used to publically provide evidence of why KYC had failed, as well as evidence of multi-accounting. Now they no longer do, instead they just ignore these requests  

I'm starting to wonder if they would be more responsive to scam accusations without current DT support? It's hard not to imagine they would be providing evidence to clear their name if certain flags were active against their account. There is little to no incentive for them to do this at present unfortunately.

Anyone opposing their flags better hope they are sitting on evidence. Otherwise it facilities a gambling site to refuse withdrawals of winners whenever they feel like it, just by referencing a handful of other random players. It's a dangerous precedent to be setting.

But hey, their T&C covers it right so nothing to worry about?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0

Hi please be advised we appreciate account and user security and we do not wish to put the dirty laundry out in the public.

There is no doubt that there is connect between the recent "oh my god, sportsbet.io is stealing from me" and the price increase in bitcoin

I hope this is not the case here and it is a clear multi accounting issue, but lets see

regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

Hi Steve, same person here, just multi-accounting  

It's good to hear your response in this thread, as well as the other. I understand there would be a correction between bitcoin go up and someone got my bitcoin and I want it back, it's a valid point. I think most users (bar the accusers) are hoping there is clear evidence of multi-accounting, this would resolve the matter swiftly and definitively.

I've reached out to who I believe are "shitik88" and "rasmus15", two of the four accused as part of the multi-account ring, since a bit of dirty laundry got aired in public.
Reference: https://prnt.sc/tqgx4g fom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265366.msg54893612#msg54893612

Given the unique enough usernames and from a quick google search, I think it's fair to assume they are these individuals:
shitik88: https://www.instagram.com/shitik88 & https://www.youtube.com/user/shitik88
rasmus15: https://www.instagram.com/rasmus15/, https://github.com/Rasmus15 & https://soundcloud.com/rasmus15
as well as possibly newer accounts https://www.instagram.com/rasmus15.11/, https://www.tiktok.com/@rasmus15.11 & https://urlebird.com/user/rasmus15.11/

I've messaged them both via Instagram, in the hope they will respond and out of courtesy. I didn't bother with the other two referenced accounts, as the names appear too generic. shitik88 uploaded a photo 2 days ago, but rasmus15 hasn't for years. I realise it's a stab in dark here, but can't imagine there are too many rasmus' that desire no.15 after their usernames. or shitik's that chose 88, but could be wrong. At least a quick search doesn't appear to prove otherwise...

Hmm.. fair play!

Ill check this out,

thank you.

regards,

Steve,
Sportbet.io

[UmerIdrees]

Hello,

Can you please let me know your user name and I will check it out for you?

regards,

Steve,
sportsbet.io

My username was "baikov", before you blocked my account and I couldn’t even log in. And I am not interested in the bitcoin rise, because I used Russian rubles to top up my balance and played using euros.

It will be interesting to see what sportsbet will come up with this investigation.

Hello! I deposited 70eur to my account and got 370eur after some winnings.

By the way did you get back your deposit of 70 Euro ?  If yes, then its the matter of 300 Euros only which is not much for a bookie to pay you if you have won it legally.

[baikov]

Hello,

Can you please let me know your user name and I will check it out for you?

regards,

Steve,
sportsbet.io

My username was "baikov", before you blocked my account and I couldn’t even log in. And I am not interested in the bitcoin rise, because I used Russian rubles to top up my balance and played using euros.

It will be interesting to see what sportsbet will come up with this investigation.

Hello! I deposited 70eur to my account and got 370eur after some winnings.

By the way did you get back your deposit of 70 Euro ?  If yes, then its the matter of 300 Euros only which is not much for a bookie to pay you if you have won it legally.

Yes, i have got my deposit back and had my account banned after this, but it is pretty unpleasant not to receive winnings, as i am sure they would never return my deposit if my bets lost.

[owlcatz]

Yeah - You at least got your deposit back. What more can you ask for here, at least you didn't lose it all and maybe you got cheated, maybe you didn't, but this case is closed as far as we are concerned I think. Cheers and avoid that site from now on obviously. I'm sure there are better/safer ones, but not a big gambler anymore myself.

[baikov]

Yeah - You at least got your deposit back. What more can you ask for here, at least you didn't lose it all and maybe you got cheated, maybe you didn't, but this case is closed as far as we are concerned I think. Cheers and avoid that site from now on obviously. I'm sure there are better/safer ones, but not a big gambler anymore myself.

Why do you think that my case is closed? Sportsbet.io did provide any evidence of multi-accounting? I chose a website from the list of trusted ones from SportsBookReview, and after this they can just send deposit back to a winner and just close the case? Sounds ridiculous.

[owlcatz]

Why do you think that my case is closed? Sportsbet.io did provide any evidence of multi-accounting? I chose a website from the list of trusted ones from SportsBookReview, and after this they can just send deposit back to a winner and just close the case? Sounds ridiculous.

Only you and sportsbet know the full details, so I can't comment any further, sorry.

[actmyname]

Only you and sportsbet know the full details, so I can't comment any further, sorry.

It's kind of strange, the resolution of this:

You have a player that voluntarily gave up KYC, presumably expecting to be cleared of concerns and to be given his winnings. Unfortunately, though, the KYC turned out to have no effect on the case and they decided to close out their account and only return the deposit.

Outcome:

Sportsbet.io gets a user's KYC for free.Am I missing something here?

[adam0991]

Only you and sportsbet know the full details, so I can't comment any further, sorry.

It's kind of strange, the resolution of this:

You have a player that voluntarily gave up KYC, presumably expecting to be cleared of concerns and to be given his winnings. Unfortunately, though, the KYC turned out to have no effect on the case and they decided to close out their account and only return the deposit.

Outcome:

Sportsbet.io gets a user's KYC for free.Am I missing something here?

Sportsbet.io are yet to comment on this, Steve has said he will look into it.

Hopefully they can resolve this. Seems sportsbet.io are being hit with a lot at the moment

[baikov]

Can you provide any evidence of these claims? Screenshots, account page, emails, etc.

It's always better to have more backing your scam accusation than to have just your written words. Interesting how these cases are starting to appear more often... or perhaps, just being reported more often?

Was scrolling my phone gallery and suddenly found these pictures of last days of my account, it was like 2 days before sportsbet stole all of my winnings... I tried to withdraw 240 euros but my request was rejected soon..

https://imgur.com/je1UaNk
https://imgur.com/H9z6ot1

[adam0991]

What were you betting on? Was it table tennis by any chance?

Seems they may have some users abusing their table tennis markets, not implying you are involved, but maybe they believe you are

[baikov]

What were you betting on? Was it table tennis by any chance?

Seems they may have some users abusing their table tennis markets, not implying you are involved, but maybe they believe you are

I only placed bets on e-Football, i am not good at table tennis so i didn't bet on it at all.