[ANN][SAU] SatoriGold, The Virtual Gold Mining Coin | No Premine

[p3ngu1n]

need new exchange

[larzul]

need new exchange

Amen to that. I wasn't able to register at spookyplanet because of the broken registration form.

[p3ngu1n]

yes broken registration
so anyone cant buy and sell SAU

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

need new exchange

Amen to that. I wasn't able to register at spookyplanet because of the broken registration form.

yes broken registration
so anyone cant buy and sell SAU

There is created in discord, the separate channel "#over-the-counter-market": https://discord.gg/t9XjDp
So, anyone, without any exchanges, there, throught "Private Messages",
can exchange the SatoriGold (SAU) for ANY CRYPTO and back,
But, no any warranty, and some users can be a scammers.
Therefore, it is recommended to process a large deals - by a small transactions.

Also, for bitcoin-based altcoins (where 2-3 multisig addresses is supporting),
there is possible to process the safe escrow-transactions with garant (which supporting the chargebacks).
In this case, there is possible to transfer altcoins, by "buyer" into the "2-3 multisig-address",
and noone can not spend that coins, and scam the another side.

Because, only 2 signatures from 3 is allow to spend the coins from that "2-3 multisig-address":
1. "buyer+seller" - if deal processed, "buyer" received the coins,
and signed the "seller"'s transaction from this "2-3 multisig-address", or give for "seller" his "buyer"'s private key.
In this case no need to ask "garant" to do something.
2. "seller+garant" - if "seller" sent his coins for "buyer", but "buyer"
did not sign the "seller"'s transaction from this "2-3 multisig-address",
or did not give for "seller", his "buyer"'s private key.
In this case, "garant" can sign the "seller"'s transaction from "2-3 multisig address",
or give his "garant"'s private key for "seller",
after verify the proofs, that "seller" did sucessfully sent the coins for "buyer".
3. "buyer+garant" - if buyer sent altcoins for "2-3 multisig-address", but did not receive nothing coins from "seller",
and "seller" is not responding a long-time, the "buyer" can turn back his coins, from "2-3 multisig-address",
after "garant" sign the transaction from this address,
or give for "buyer" his "garant"'s private-key,
to let "buyer"'s sign his transaction, himself.

But noone, alone, can not spend the coins from "2-3 multisig-address", no "buyer", no "seller", no "garant".

Sometimes, @username1565, in discord, can be a garant for the bitcoin-altcoins escrow-transactions,
or also, you can select any another garant for escrow-transactions (bitcoin/altcoin),
on this forums, who are online, and ready to process your deal.
Garants, you can select from this list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0
or this list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5083258.0
Also, see their fees.

Maybe, for large cryptocurrencies, like bitcoin/litecoin/dash/etc...
there is already exists some online garant-services,
which allow to use escrow-transactions, AUTOMATICALLY.
But for another altcoins, it can be processed manually.

[larzul]

There is created in discord, the separate channel "#over-the-counter-market": https://discord.gg/t9XjDp
So, anyone, without any exchanges, there, throught "Private Messages",
can exchange the SatoriGold (SAU) for ANY CRYPTO and back,
But, no any warranty, and some users can be a scammers.

While this works in a pinch, it is a temporary solution at best. What's worse, lack of a proper exchange hurts coin adoption.

I'm in no hurry, so happy to wait until it is listed somewhere else (and then some).

[satori1]

Really trying to get any exchange involved, but its really difficult without payment, they all want something even though they make money with the trading fees!! One important factor is to have an exchange that will still be there in a year or two!!

[larzul]

Really trying to get any exchange involved, but its really difficult without payment, they all want something even though they make money with the trading fees!!

Which is not entirely unfair, as I see it.
At any rate, most exchanges want not only fees, but also a good vision, mission statement, roadmap, something useful in the coin ecosystem, you name it.

One important factor is to have an exchange that will still be there in a year or two!!

Of those that deal with small-ish coins, Tradeogre comes to mind. Had solid experience with them this far.

[p3ngu1n]

I think Tradeogre is good on a small exchange.

[satori1]

I think Tradeogre is good on a small exchange.

Just submitted the coin info with TradeOgre , just hope they will give our coin a listing shot!!

[p3ngu1n]

I think Tradeogre is good on a small exchange.

Just submitted the coin info with TradeOgre , just hope they will give our coin a listing shot!!

 

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

There is created in discord, the separate channel "#over-the-counter-market": https://discord.gg/t9XjDp
So, anyone, without any exchanges, there, throught "Private Messages",
can exchange the SatoriGold (SAU) for ANY CRYPTO and back,
But, no any warranty, and some users can be a scammers.

While this works in a pinch, it is a temporary solution at best. What's worse, lack of a proper exchange hurts coin adoption.

I'm in no hurry, so happy to wait until it is listed somewhere else (and then some).

I think this is not a temporary solution, and this solution is better than an exchange.
Simply because exchanges can be scams (mt.gox, btc-e, cryptopia, and many-many others)
while escrow-transactions support chargebacks.
Moreover, in the over-the-counter market, you can exchange SatoriGold (SAU) for any coin, for many coins,
at any negotiated prices, and for specified persons,
and not just for one trading pair, which was been listed on exchange,
and not at prices that are dictated by the volumes of market makers's, there,
and where can be exists the dirty money, which was been stoled after scam someone,
or terrorists money, narco-money.

Anyway, I see in #pool-operators channel, in discord, a some proposition to listing SatoriGold somewhere.
Maybe this lady can add SatoriGold on Finebox, and anyone can add SatoriGold on their exchange, right now,
and as one from the main tickers, just because this HAVE NO PREMINE.

Also, I do not think, SatoriGold need some listings,
because in this case this will seems just like some another not usable altcoin,
which will, be traded for long-term after dumps of market-bears @ price around a fucking satoshies
of the only ASIC-premined and instamined old coins (BTC/LTC/ETH/DASH/WAVES/USDT/etc...),
which can not be mined by noone, with CPU or GPU.

But SatoriGold (SAU) - this is a mineable coin, and this is mineable by CPU/GPU miners,
SAU have FPGA-resistant and ASIC-resistant algorithm "cn-pico/turtl",
and moreover, with hardcoded blocktime 5 minutes,
SAU can be mined within 10-50 years, without large growing of blockchain-height, like Monero/ZCash/BitcoinGold !!
Therefore, SatoriGold, can be the better than bitcoin, for the traders on the all crypto-market,
just because over 80% of bitcoins, was been already mined, and mined by large ASIC-farms.

Just try to mine bitcoins, right now. Or try to withdraw this, with the current fees.
This is not comfortable to use, for fair mining (without cheating with FPGA/ASIC) and for trading,
maybe, this is usable only just for investing, but this is overpriced now.

[satori1]

I feel that the project is progressing steadily 

Well its not easy, but we just keepon going  !!!

Really would like more people to join!


Here are my mining stats with a Ryzen 7 3800X

[larzul]

Here are my mining stats with a Ryzen 7 3800X

Not bad! Is that stock? How are the temps under 100% load?

[larzul]

I think this is not a temporary solution, and this solution is better than an exchange.
Simply because exchanges can be scams (mt.gox, btc-e, cryptopia, and many-many others)

So can be otc dealers, as you mentioned before. And escrows. Ultimately unless atomic swap is implemented, any exchange, be it a centralized one or an otc, would be a matter of trust.
And unless otc exchange is somehow automated, it is going to be a lot more busywork than just dumping the coins on exchange and creating a couple of orders.

Also, I do not think, SatoriGold need some listings

Thing is, to have a coin adopted it has to have some use. Who needs just random bytes laying around? You gotta be able to do something with the coins you have.
Having a coin listed on an exchange is one such use; another would be having an ecosystem/platform/whatever using this coin as a primary currency.

Without seeing the roadmap I have no idea about the latter, so..

[p3ngu1n]

I feel that the project is progressing steadily 

Well its not easy, but we just keepon going  !!!

Really would like more people to join!


Here are my mining stats with a Ryzen 7 3800X

yes and we need more miners
it will make it stronger

[p3ngu1n]

https://miningpoolstats.stream/satoricoin

pool-pay.com and letshash.it are small hashrate now
need more miners

[p3ngu1n]

WebBrowser-miner: https://satorigold.github.io/SatoriGold-webminer/ (CPU-threads)

This webminer is very useful for those who don't know much about mining.
If you can't use the mining application, I recommend using it.

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

WebBrowser-miner: https://satorigold.github.io/SatoriGold-webminer/ (CPU-threads)

This webminer is very useful for those who don't know much about mining.
If you can't use the mining application, I recommend using it.

There is also already exists the paperwallet, to generate SAU-address, in browser, and begin the mining, without running satwallet:
https://satorigold.github.io/SatoriGold-paperwallet/
Also, there is possible to restore wallet by mnemonic-seed.

Also, maybe, will be possible to create something, like this android-miner: https://github.com/wrkzcoin/wrkz_android_miner

[satori1]

Here are my mining stats with a Ryzen 7 3800X

Not bad! Is that stock? How are the temps under 100% load?

yes stock,Yes the temps are under 100% load!!

[larzul]

Hi, it's been a while.

Any updates?