[sportsbet.io] Responsible gambling failure, not honouring their own t&c's.

[adam0991]

It’s very likely that had the player been winning then Sportsbet would have pulled out the multiple account / we are seizing your funds malarkey.

The player is always at a disadvantage, casinos tend to do what they want. Interested to see Sportsbet comment on this accusation as it’s for a shit ton of money compared to some of the other cases floating around

[JollyGood]

I had to use the un-ignore on you just to read what trash you were writing but will take the opportunity to make a post too:

If there is no point in making a thread there is no need to explain anything here. if you are a genuine user with a genuine complaint then you would have opened a scam accusation thread with evidence.

Post here using your real user details instead of hiding behind a sock-puppet  

Open a scam accusation thread and provide proof of you being scammed.

I just explained that they didn't allow me to withdraw, whats the point of my making my thread, I'm explaining it here. Nothing will be done since they aren't held accountable.

And why did you delete the post you made which I have copied below? What is your real motive to be here?

PlayerX47 is correct. I had a similar scenario where sportsbet demanded KYC after I already won with my original deposit. Ridiculous rules and they are not held accountable for scamming their users. Everyone sohuld do their research first and I hope your issue is solved.

[Get-Paid.com]

PlayerX47,

Can I ask if you contacted SportsBet.io after you lost 1, 2, 3 BTC or how exactly did it happen?
How quickly did you lose 20 BTC? was it in 1 day, 1 week?

Did you contact SportsBet.io at any point after losing a bit more - and have they told you anything if you did?

The most important key factor that could side by you (legally) is if you have some conversation between yourself and SportsBet.io - if they told you "Keep on gambling for another 24 hours and then let us know your '''final''' decision" then they can be held liable"....

But if you had 0 contact with them and only contacting them after you lost your 20 BTC it might be more difficult to prove damages here unless if you had any "similarities" between the new and old account?

With my case with another provider - I asked to be self-excluded and they closed the account, and then sent me emails asking me if I want to reopen it - I used it against them and won $7000 - but that was the very SAME account, I did not try nor attempted to open a 2nd account.

As others have mentioned besides pursuing (or not) the matter legally - and besides the self-exclusion tips I gave you in the beginning of the thread - you really should be looking to do something with this - honestly losing over $220,000 is terrible .. If I were you I'd seriously consider handing over your finances to someone else (e.g. spouse/wife if you have one or parents or brother/sister whatever).

If I were you before starting any treatment or whatever - the first best treatment for you is to simply not touch any cash ... salaries, bonuses, whatever you earn - get someone else to hold this money for you, you're not capable of handling over cash yourself, and I'm saying it for your own benefit - get at least 1-2 years of letting someone else handling your finances - you are not in a position to be dealing with cash right now.

[adam0991]

PlayerX47,

Can I ask if you contacted SportsBet.io after you lost 1, 2, 3 BTC or how exactly did it happen?
How quickly did you lose 20 BTC? was it in 1 day, 1 week?

Did you contact SportsBet.io at any point after losing a bit more - and have they told you anything if you did?

The most important key factor that could side by you (legally) is if you have some conversation between yourself and SportsBet.io - if they told you "Keep on gambling for another 24 hours and then let us know your '''final''' decision" then they can be held liable"....

But if you had 0 contact with them and only contacting them after you lost your 20 BTC it might be more difficult to prove damages here unless if you had any "similarities" between the new and old account?

I believe OP put all these details in their original post? I am sure these have been answered..

16 BTC over the course of a single weekend.

Then a few weeks losing around another 20 BTC is what it says, not sure the timeframe of the second loss.

Makes me feel a bit sick tbh

[saturent]

Thanks for your brutal opinion, but I also agree with partly what you have said. It's ok I have tough skin, I am not here looking for sympathy.

Ultimately operators have a responsibility to their players, gambling is a real issue worldwide and most regulators have very strict guidelines for protecting players. Curacao maybe not so much, I am not sure at the moment.

One of my main points of taking this public is to raise awareness. The era of anonymous gambling is extremely dangerous to vulnerable players and ultimately is it even legal to be running a business which allows gambling of this level without asking the player any information? I can assure you it's not, it breaks pretty much every single money laundering rule ever. It certainly breaks the license that sportsbet.io operate under.

I totally agree, I saw a player getting banned instanly after indirectly showing signs of ludopathy, but obviously this happened on one of the most reputable sites wordwide (bet365). I have also seen sites holding european licenses, with costumers with successful KYCs, but still playing shady even knowing an addiction is taking place. The simple fact of having this kind of illness is really dangerous.

[JollyGood]

You may be right but let us wait to see what happens when a Sportsbet representative gets in contact with you to address the issues you raised. I hope you post here and update us.

The biggest problem is operators hold the cards and they are happy to watch players lose but only enforce barriers when a player is winning. Had I been winning I truly believe it would have been a very different situation in that they would have flagged my accounts. Obviously that is not the case however so it's not a line of defence.

I am very interested to see sportsbet.io's take on this now that this case is public. I look forward to their reply.

[Get-Paid.com]

You may be right but let us wait to see what happens when a Sportsbet representative gets in contact with you to address the issues you raised. I hope you post here and update us.

Do you expect the rep to come here and say - hey, here's your 36 BTC that you lost? ($400,000)

[notblox1]

The only way for you to get your money "back" is via court or a legal action.

Please,
Don't dig yourself a deeper hole than what it is.

I'm going to PM you.

@PlayerX47 Did you get help in PM?

It appears that GP is back and he is going to protect us from 'evil' betting websites...
Lets make a bet how long until other DT members found and report him for ban evasion?

@hilariousandco: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0
If you are banned on one account then you are not allowed to post under any accounts you own for the duration of your ban.

[suchmoon]

Lets make a bet how long until other DT members found and report him for ban evasion?

One doesn't need to be a DT member to make a report to moderators. However evidence is needed and merely "ranting against casinos" or similar won't cut it...

[Get-Paid.com]

It appears that GP is back and he is going to protect us from 'evil' betting websites...

GP is Game Protect.
Unfortunately our site is named with similar abbreviation Get-Paid.com but we have nothing to do with GP, and please don't use our quote in that reference neither.

[adam0991]

You may be right but let us wait to see what happens when a Sportsbet representative gets in contact with you to address the issues you raised. I hope you post here and update us.

Do you expect the rep to come here and say - hey, here's your 36 BTC that you lost? ($400,000)

Heh

I don’t think they’ll let some forum members decide this one. I wonder if it’s even true

[mindrust]

Why is this even still here?

This is not a scam accusation.

OP is just a sorry loser. Somebody needs to lose so somebody else can win, this is how gambling works. You didn't have to write a wall of text to prove this.

Some mod should move this topic to gambling discussion or off-topic, please.

[saturent]

Heh

I don’t think they’ll let some forum members decide this one. I wonder if it’s even true

Why would someone come here and post such thing if it wasnt true? It would be a waste and absolutely ridiculous. I am sure the OP has all the needed evidence to proof that his story is true. What would be the point of posting something like this if it was all fake? It would be totally useless

[notblox1]

Unfortunately

Why unfortunately?

GP is Game Protect.

I did not say this.

don't use our quote in that reference neither.

I will quote whoever I want when asking question related to topic or something you said.
Why are you offering legal help in PM to anyone in this forum when it has nothing related with your new GP website?

[saturent]

Why is this even still here?

This is not a scam accusation.

OP is just a sorry loser. Somebody needs to lose so somebody else can win, this is how gambling works. You didn't have to write a wall of text to prove this.

Some mod should move this topic to gambling discussion or off-topic, please.

If responsible gambling guideliness were not followed properly, it is a scam. The evidence should determine it.

[adam0991]

Heh

I don’t think they’ll let some forum members decide this one. I wonder if it’s even true

Why would someone come here and post such thing if it wasnt true? It would be a waste and absolutely ridiculous. I am sure the OP has all the needed evidence to proof that his story is true. What would be the point of posting something like this if it was all fake? It would be totally useless

Sorry I didn’t quite mean it like that, I am interested to hear the full truth and sportsbet’s comments. We should wait for their response.

[Get-Paid.com]

Why unfortunately?

Because people seem to mistaken the real GP with ourselves in this forum.

I will quote whoever I want when asking question related to topic or something you said.
Why are you offering legal help in PM to anyone in this forum when it has nothing related with your new GP website?

Honestly it's none of your business.

[notblox1]

Honestly it's none of your business.

It's not of your business to offer people legal help in PM.
That is tactics used by scammers, and I care about people, and I don't want them to be scammed again.

Because people seem to mistaken the real GP with ourselves in this forum.

Real GP?
I don't know what are you talking about

This is not just about being a sorry loser. It's so much more than that, surely you see that.

Did you get any 'help' from Get-Paid?
Please don't trust anyone sending you PM or offering help in PM

[Get-Paid.com]

Honestly it's none of your business.

It's not of your business to offer people legal help in PM.
That is tactics used by scammers, and I care about people, and I don't want them to be scammed again.

We also care about people and I don't trust everything that is being said here neither.

If I had to PM the OP it was for a reason, you don't have to trust me and I don't have to trust you neither, but I do care for the OP and I didn't ask him for money and I did not offer him any legal services - the OP wants a resolution, not to get his thread kicked out from this forum for not being a scam-issue or not etc. - unfortunately in a certain way this forum cannot help the OP, and in some way it would only cause more harm than good.

Real GP?

Game Protect is not Get-Paid.com

Did you get any 'help' from Get-Paid?
Please don't trust anyone sending you PM or offering help in PM

OP, feel free to respond.
No legal help was offered.
Whilst you seem to act like a good cop here it's also being on a borderline of being an idiot - if anyone using a PM in your eyes is a scammer then take out your paranoia on someone else.

[notblox1]

OP wants a resolution, not to get his thread kicked out from this forum for not being a scam-issue or not etc. - unfortunately in a certain way this forum cannot help the OP, and in some way it would only cause more harm than good.

Threads are never kicked out from forum unless it is malicious or reported to moderators.

Game Protect is not Get-Paid.com

And Game Protect is not game-protect,
and merit abuse is merit abuse

No legal help was offered.
Whilst you seem to act like a good cop here it's also being on a borderline of being an idiot - if anyone using a PM in your eyes is a scammer then take out your paranoia on someone else.

You crossed idiot line long time ago, and acting like some kind a betting scam protector is for observation by medical professionals.
Stick to your faucets and clicks.