The Covid situation in the US perfectly summarized in video form

[BADecker]

I believe there is a virus, but I don't think it is a match for a healthy immune system.

But what is a healthy immune system to you? Is that one of someone is the 'low-risk' category, meaning that the person is under 50 and has no underlying health conditions that could increase their chances of death due to Covid?

Or is it just anyone that doesn't have underlying health conditions?

There's like 150,000 people that are dead because of this. Is there a way for this to be explained?

Actually, the real stats show that the total number of dead is the same this year as any year. That they might be attributed to Covid simply takes away from other things... like heart disease and cancer and diabetes.

The medical has done this before in history. Suddenly heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and flu deaths decline almost to zero, but everybody is dying of Covid.

How many deaths have there been since the beginning of time?

[GeorgeJohn]

I believe there is a virus, but I don't think it is a match for a healthy immune system.

No one can differentiate humans,
Because the virus don't know who is who.
In respective of the immune system,because I have seen a man of 55 years the immune system is stronger than a boy of 17 years.
The only thing we have to looked at,is how strong is virus?
Because I noticed in hospital that a medical doctor prescribed a drugs for treatment of malaria for a patient and the patient get better.
But the same drug was prescribed to another patient but the sickness persists,while is because of the level of the illness not immune system.

[squatz1]

I believe there is a virus, but I don't think it is a match for a healthy immune system.

But what is a healthy immune system to you? Is that one of someone is the 'low-risk' category, meaning that the person is under 50 and has no underlying health conditions that could increase their chances of death due to Covid?

Or is it just anyone that doesn't have underlying health conditions?

There's like 150,000 people that are dead because of this. Is there a way for this to be explained?

Actually, the real stats show that the total number of dead is the same this year as any year. That they might be attributed to Covid simply takes away from other things... like heart disease and cancer and diabetes.

The medical has done this before in history. Suddenly heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and flu deaths decline almost to zero, but everybody is dying of Covid.

How man deaths have there been since the beginning of time?

I know there's this conspiracy theory regarding listing people as  COVID death, though it's just not true at all. Hospitals aren't going to get any more money for someone who has probably died from COVID, they get paid based on the amount of people that have COVID and are being treated for it.

Under the CARES Act, the government will pay hospitals 20% more for Medicare patients with COVID-19.

These payments are for Medicare patients with the disease who are hospitalized, and doesn’t change based on whether someone is discharged or dies. They also do not cover those who seek medical care for the coronavirus at emergency rooms and are not admitted for hospital stays, said Julie Lonborg, senior vice president of the Colorado Hospital Association.

Probable deaths are included in the death count, as testing is still limited at the moment, though there isn't any more money paid to hospitals just for coding someone as a 'probable death' of COVID.

There's no proof of this fraud. It's not on someone to prove that fraud didn't happen, its on the accuser to prove that fraud did occur.

[BADecker]

I know there's this conspiracy theory regarding listing people as  COVID death, though it's just not true at all. Hospitals aren't going to get any more money for someone who has probably died from COVID, they get paid based on the amount of people that have COVID and are being treated for it.

Paid on how many people are being treated for Covid? Thank you. Because the people being treated in hospitals are dying, right? Oh sure, not all of them. But if you can take a car accident vicim in the hospital, and say he is a Covid victim, you get more money. But since he is a car accident victim, and you start treating him for Covid, it's the wrong treatment, and he dies.

Under the CARES Act, the government will pay hospitals 20% more for Medicare patients with COVID-19.

These payments are for Medicare patients with the disease who are hospitalized, and doesn’t change based on whether someone is discharged or dies. They also do not cover those who seek medical care for the coronavirus at emergency rooms and are not admitted for hospital stays, said Julie Lonborg, senior vice president of the Colorado Hospital Association.

Probable deaths are included in the death count, as testing is still limited at the moment, though there isn't any more money paid to hospitals just for coding someone as a 'probable death' of COVID.

There's no proof of this fraud. It's not on someone to prove that fraud didn't happen, its on the accuser to prove that fraud did occur.

There is no proof of this fraud? We get the info from the media and State reports. If you can't trust the media and State reports, why does anybody think that Covid deaths have made the total death count greater than it is? I mean, either you trust the media or you don't. You can't simply say, trust them here, but don't trust them there.

Further, are we trusting Communist China that Covid is really real? They are communists, for Pete's sake. And THAT is where the WHO is headquartered.

[Spendulus]

There's nothing wrong with the national government paying 20% more if a patient is Covid positive, because of the massive extra c cost the hospital has in dealing with covid-positive patient.

[BADecker]

There's nothing wrong with the national government paying 20% more if a patient is Covid positive, because of the massive extra c cost the hospital has in dealing with covid-positive patient.

You're wrong! Why? Watch the first 25 minutes of this - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI.

Hospitals are not necessary. Hydorxychloroqine is safe and effective when used in doses of 200mg at least twice a week. Virtually everybody is cured, especially if they start at the onset of symptoms. The addition of zinc or products that include zinc, increase the effectiveness of HCQ.

[squatz1]

There's nothing wrong with the national government paying 20% more if a patient is Covid positive, because of the massive extra c cost the hospital has in dealing with covid-positive patient.

+1 to that. Not sure on why there are so many conspiracy theories on the matter. Everything can be quickly resolved by saying the following.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No.

Are hospitals telling everyone they have COVID and making a shit ton of money from it? I mean, probably not. This may happen with a few people who have symptoms, but I assume there are other people who are told they don't have COVID (and are turned away from the hospitals) who the Hospitals are 'losing' out on.

Not sure on why people think there's this crazy conspiracy going on here. Wouldn't someone blow the whistle? So many hospitals, so many people on the staff, highly doubt that this could be kept under wraps.

[Jet Cash]

Listing a death as Covid reduces paper work I believe. There are several reports of false declarations being made by busy doctors and surgeons. One surgeon actually stated a case. It seems he had attempted an organ transplant on a patient with Covid. This was not successful, and regrettably the patient died. He was told to report it as a Covid death, as this was a simple report. If he had reported it as a transplant failure, there would have been an inquest into the operation, and this involves a considerable amount of paperwork and reporting.

[Spendulus]

There's nothing wrong with the national government paying 20% more if a patient is Covid positive, because of the massive extra c cost the hospital has in dealing with covid-positive patient.

+1 to that. Not sure on why there are so many conspiracy theories on the matter. Everything can be quickly resolved by saying the following.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No....

The isolation wards, the protective gear, the cleanups, as required for every single COVID positive patient, that's not a minor expense. Neither is finding people to work in such wards.

[Salauddin1994]

The COVID situation in the United States has been perfectly summarized in video form as the spread of the virus in the United States continues to grow. Although the cost of hospital treatment has increased, it is very small and the situation is getting worse because not enough people in the United States are wearing masks and not respecting the social distance. car accidents are not epidemics, they are usually accidents.

[Spendulus]

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Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No.

Are hospitals telling everyone they have COVID and making a shit ton of money from it? I mean, probably not. ....

I can check with people I know who every day handle death certificates and forms in hospitals, but just knowing what kind of people they are, it's impossible there is a bunch of lying and misrepresentation going on.

But this is a huge enough issue that I'm sure anybody that went poking through the deaths looking for oddities could find them among the COVID-related deaths. Then again that's really always been true, if you went poking through that stuff you could find oddities.

[BADecker]

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No.

Part of the process for listing a death as Covid is treating the person for Covid before he died.

The only time you can split the two is if he doesn't die, and they STILL might get more to treat him.

The point is calling it Covid when it isn't Covid. Or calling cause of death Covid when there were enough co-morbidities (heart diseas, cancer, diabetes, etc.) that nobody can say for sure that it was Covid. But they are going beyond that. They are calling it Covid when they KNOW it is one of the co-morbidities. They aren't magnifying Covid because it's fun. They are doing it for money.

[squatz1]

There's nothing wrong with the national government paying 20% more if a patient is Covid positive, because of the massive extra c cost the hospital has in dealing with covid-positive patient.

+1 to that. Not sure on why there are so many conspiracy theories on the matter. Everything can be quickly resolved by saying the following.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No....

The isolation wards, the protective gear, the cleanups, as required for every single COVID positive patient, that's not a minor expense. Neither is finding people to work in such wards.

+1

Imagine the amount of gear that they had to go out and buy to ensure that all of their employees are safe while working with COVID patients? Plus I've heard from medical professionals that the doctors are actually undressed (from their protective gear) by nurses, who are also paid, and I assume are only undressing doctors as there is probably a lot to do regarding that.

Plus sick pay and stuff for sick employees -- as they're going to have the highest chance of getting the Coronavirus. Not good PR for someone to get COVID from working at a hospital, and then not getting paid or getting fired.

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Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No.

Are hospitals telling everyone they have COVID and making a shit ton of money from it? I mean, probably not. ....

I can check with people I know who every day handle death certificates and forms in hospitals, but just knowing what kind of people they are, it's impossible there is a bunch of lying and misrepresentation going on.

But this is a huge enough issue that I'm sure anybody that went poking through the deaths looking for oddities could find them among the COVID-related deaths. Then again that's really always been true, if you went poking through that stuff you could find oddities.

Yeah I mean I can't see this being this crazy for people to understand. Why hasn't anyone picked up on all of this? Maybe because all the conspiracies aren't true.

[lepbagong]

The COVID situation in the United States has been perfectly summarized in video form as the spread of the virus in the United States continues to grow. Although the cost of hospital treatment has increased, it is very small and the situation is getting worse because not enough people in the United States are wearing masks and not respecting the social distance. car accidents are not epidemics, they are usually accidents.

as long as there are no drugs and vaccines, prevention of infection that continues to grow is to follow a very strict health protocol.

- mandatory use of masks,
- maintaining a distance between one person and another must be maintained,
- don't do a lot of crowd in one area.
- washing hands every time they touch ingredients when outside the home,

and it seems that some health protocols are often overlooked, this is clearly very unfortunate if a large country cannot provide an example so that continuing transmission does not occur.

[BADecker]

The COVID situation in the United States has been perfectly summarized in video form as the spread of the virus in the United States continues to grow. Although the cost of hospital treatment has increased, it is very small and the situation is getting worse because not enough people in the United States are wearing masks and not respecting the social distance. car accidents are not epidemics, they are usually accidents.

as long as there are no drugs and vaccines, prevention of infection that continues to grow is to follow a very strict health protocol.

- mandatory use of masks,
- maintaining a distance between one person and another must be maintained,
- don't do a lot of crowd in one area.
- washing hands every time they touch ingredients when outside the home,

and it seems that some health protocols are often overlooked, this is clearly very unfortunate if a large country cannot provide an example so that continuing transmission does not occur.

All of these things spread the virus more than they contain the virus.

[Gyfts]

That's not how it works at all. If contact tracing was perfect, you could stop the virus before infecting more than a handful of people, and then poof it would disappear.

Just because it can technically spread to everyone doesn't mean it will. It's just one more factor.

No, that actually is how it works. The Ro value is on average how many people the virus will infect within a population. Unless a population was completely isolated, then the Ro value is not relevant. But that's not true. Ebola's Ro value was significantly less than coronavirus primarily because it was spread through surface touching, not through the air. The transmission is what matters here. And I also was not making a point that contact tracing was perfect, but it helps when your population is isolated over a small geographical area and is small on absolute terms. The bigger the population, the exponential growth of potential contacts.

Japan's population is not small. It's about half of the population of the US. (About 40% if you're being pedantic, even 38% if you're being anal)
Japan is also spread through islands and has some very dense areas. Contact tracing isn't going to be any harder in the US.

Contact tracing becomes a little harder when you don't handle the crisis in a timely fashion. It'd be even easier in the US as you can just limit travel from the infected states and you have tons of land separation.

Contact tracing becomes exponentially more difficult when the population increases. If you have an island of 100 people, That is 100 individual points of transmission in which any one person can have contact with. When you have an island of 1,000 people, that's 1,000 individual points of transmission in which the virus can spread. The more the population, the harder it becomes to contact trace because of the potential number of contacts. To your point, contact tracing only works when the virus is under control. But even then, geography also plays a role. The U.S. is a lot larger than Japan so health officials need to work over a greater area instead of isolating resources into one condensed area.

Another point to make, Japan has greater social conformity than the U.S. You tell an American to do something simple like washing their hands and wear a mask, they'll do the opposite. Japanese people will conform for the betterment of society and don't mind sacrificing personal comfort for it. This isn't a necessarily a failure on Trump. Americans can be retarded, at times.

Just because New York got hit, it didn't mean that florida had to be hit hard, but it did. Florida is Trumptopia and they listened to big daddy Trump. I'm not saying Trump is bad, nor that Trump people are bad, many of my friends are very pro-Trump.

What I am saying, is that Trump fucked up. Do you disagree?

Florida didn't really get hit that hard though. And define "Trump fucked up"? Whenever governors asked for federal resources, Trump delivered. When Cuomo asked for PPE, he got it. When he asked for ventilators, he got it. People don't understand that the response to coronavirus is largely up to the state level because the federal government can't be the ones to lock everyone in a cage in order to prevent the spread. States can implement lockdowns, mandatory mask wearing, introducing testing infrastructure, prepping their hospitals, ect. That isn't Trump's responsibility. What is his responsibility is failing to step in when states request for help, and so far I have not seen that.

Also important to note, it's mostly doctors running the show. Despite what people like to think, Trump isn't the one making calls. His staff his. So rest assured that it's professionals that are handling this.

Also on the China data. Thunderf00t on YouTube (thunderf00t is a PHD chemist, who does mostly nuclear chemistry experiments on nuclear reactors and has had a pretty solid academic career (a lot of impactful papers)) used the data from China.

In fact using the data from China he made a simple but actually very accurate model for other countries, including the US before the whole thing was even a crisis. Since his model was accurate, that leads me to believe the Chinese numbers were accurate.

You'll notice on the chinese data there is suddenly a day with a huge increase, that's when they expanded the definition for what is considered coronavirus related.

Yes the Chinese government is pretty close to dystopian. I would never want to live in country like that. However look at the PPE they are using and the measures they took. It makes pefect sense they could contain the virus quickly.

It doesn't matter if Thunderf00t used their data or not. A lot of high level intellectuals used China's data thinking it was accurate and it simply is not. Again, I'll reference China's curve. Not a single country in the ENTIRE world has a logarithmic curve in terms of cases. It's not possible. China began shipping out journalists from their country when coronavirus got out of hand and silenced doctors. Don't take their word for shit, including their reported cases.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No.

Part of the process for listing a death as Covid is treating the person for Covid before he died.

The only time you can split the two is if he doesn't die, and they STILL might get more to treat him.

The point is calling it Covid when it isn't Covid. Or calling cause of death Covid when there were enough co-morbidities (heart diseas, cancer, diabetes, etc.) that nobody can say for sure that it was Covid. But they are going beyond that. They are calling it Covid when they KNOW it is one of the co-morbidities. They aren't magnifying Covid because it's fun. They are doing it for money.

You are right. When anyone affected by covid and got died call that dead has happened for covid19. But the death might be for different case if the person already affected by other disease as you have mentioned for example, diabetes, heart attack, cancer etc.

[BADecker]

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more to treat people for COVID? Yes.

Is it true that Hospitals get paid more for listing a death as COVID? No.

Part of the process for listing a death as Covid is treating the person for Covid before he died.

The only time you can split the two is if he doesn't die, and they STILL might get more to treat him.

The point is calling it Covid when it isn't Covid. Or calling cause of death Covid when there were enough co-morbidities (heart diseas, cancer, diabetes, etc.) that nobody can say for sure that it was Covid. But they are going beyond that. They are calling it Covid when they KNOW it is one of the co-morbidities. They aren't magnifying Covid because it's fun. They are doing it for money.

You are right. When anyone affected by covid and got died call that dead has happened for covid19. But the death might be for different case if the person already affected by other disease as you have mentioned for example, diabetes, heart attack, cancer etc.

Like one case in Florida where the guy died as the result of a car accident.

[Subbir]

I accept as true with all of you that albeit he died within the normal way now he's counting that he died of the coronavirus.
many of us died in car accidents when there was no coronavirus you're right that they're doing this for money the speed of novel coronavirus infection is increasing day by day within us that's why these are being presented within the sort of more videos. Hospitals have increased the speed of treatment thanks to taking extra money.

[BADecker]

Trump started taking HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) immediately after Dr. Zelenko informed him about it. Go to the website for more Zelenko quotes.

Watch the video, below. Note that this video might come down, because it is hosted on Youtube. So, get it while you can.


UPDATE: Dr. Zev Zelenko Gives Insightful Talk On HCQ/Deep Medical State Corruption w/ Debbie Aldrich

People are not dying from COVID, they are dying from politics…

Dr. Zev Zelenko M.D. Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences, University at Buffalo. For more information about the Covid-19 Outpatient Early risk Protocol visit TheZelenkoProtocol.com or Internetprotocol.co.

Debbie Aldrich spoke at length with Dr. Zev Zelenko on the medical protocol he developed to treat COVID-19 early and mitigate the virus, massively preventing hospitalizations.

Dr. Zelenko had some memorable quotes…we summarized below.

"I didn't choose Covid-19, Covid-19 chose me.

"I pride myself on keeping my patients out of the hospital.

"No one was looking for intervention in an out patient process, to stop hospitalizations, mitigate the disease process.

Dr. Zelenko on the Front Lines of HCQ. Why is the Media and Fauci against HCQ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu_scJimKrA&feature=emb_logo