Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective.

[Poker Player]

Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

The problem with all this is the economic interests behind it. Normally we cannot rely on statistics, so if the statistics support the fact that the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money, even less so, I think. Curiously, we hear little or nothing about boosting the immune system in a natural way. What a coincidence that it does not make money for the pharmaceutical companies.

[Mauser]

Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

It is so hard to keep track of all these different kind of vaccines. Almost all of the big countries have their own vaccines, USA and China have 3 vaccines each already being exported. But what we don't know is how effective is each and everyone one of them. Why is it so hard to make a comparison between them? In my opinion this is politically motivated to not make these information public. If we could rank the vaccines in terms of efficency then worst vaccines probably wouldn't be used anymore as nobody would want to get it.

[semobo]

Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

It is so hard to keep track of all these different kind of vaccines. Almost all of the big countries have their own vaccines, USA and China have 3 vaccines each already being exported. But what we don't know is how effective is each and everyone one of them. Why is it so hard to make a comparison between them? In my opinion this is politically motivated to not make these information public. If we could rank the vaccines in terms of efficency then worst vaccines probably wouldn't be used anymore as nobody would want to get it.

Covid virus is getting mutated so now we have completely different kinds of covid 19 virus from the year 2020 but these vaccines are made for the early strain but now the new strain can be resistant to the vaccines that is why efficacy is getting reducing further.

[BADecker]

Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

It is so hard to keep track of all these different kind of vaccines. Almost all of the big countries have their own vaccines, USA and China have 3 vaccines each already being exported. But what we don't know is how effective is each and everyone one of them. Why is it so hard to make a comparison between them? In my opinion this is politically motivated to not make these information public. If we could rank the vaccines in terms of efficency then worst vaccines probably wouldn't be used anymore as nobody would want to get it.

Covid virus is getting mutated so now we have completely different kinds of covid 19 virus from the year 2020 but these vaccines are made for the early strain but now the new strain can be resistant to the vaccines that is why efficacy is getting reducing further.

"Mutated" isn't and doesn't mean "completely different."

One might say that Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 is a mutation of the original SARS that existed back in 2003. But the two of them are around 80% or 85% the same. Mutations of Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 that happen here and there over a short period of days or weeks, are almost exactly the same as their parent that they mutated from.

Vaccines may not recognize mutated strains. But the immune system recognizes even Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 because of its work on, and memory of, the original SARS.

The original SARS is simply a mutated form of the common cold. There are many mutations of the common cold. SARS happened to be one of them that was a little more aggressive. So is Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2. But the immune system stopped the original SARS. We didn't have a pandemic. Vaccines certainly didn't work.

Big Pharma wants to make money. That's why they used the media to turn Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 into a pandemic when it really isn't. Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 will go away on its own, except that the things that the medical are doing are making it last longer. Why will/is Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 going away naturally? Because the immune system recognizes its similarity to the common cold, and is destroying it just like immune systems destroyed the original SARS.

The vaccine is not 50% effective at getting rid of Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2. Rather, the vaccines are probably 50% effective at making Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 last longer. So, Fauci wasn't lying. He was simply twisting the truth in a wrong direction.

[Cnut237]

The problem with all this is the economic interests behind it. Normally we cannot rely on statistics, so if the statistics support the fact that the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money, even less so, I think. Curiously, we hear little or nothing about boosting the immune system in a natural way. What a coincidence that it does not make money for the pharmaceutical companies.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is sold at cost. No profit.

Agree that the other vaccine companies are making vast amounts of money. But if an urgent problem can only be resolved by a very small number of expert companies, then you'd expect those companies to make money - it's how the modern economy works. Doesn't make the problem itself artificial, though.

Also, we've heard a fair amount about the effectiveness of vitamin D, which doesn't make $$$ for pharma. And we've heard about the importance of healthy diet, how obesity is a factor, etc. At least in my country - will obviously vary around the world.

[BADecker]

The problem with all this is the economic interests behind it. Normally we cannot rely on statistics, so if the statistics support the fact that the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money, even less so, I think. Curiously, we hear little or nothing about boosting the immune system in a natural way. What a coincidence that it does not make money for the pharmaceutical companies.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is sold at cost. No profit.

Nobody does all that work at no cost. The cost is to the taxpayers, who supply the money for the grants extended to the vaccine companies. But the bigger cost is to the recipients of the so-called vaccine.


AstraZeneca changes the name of its coronavirus vaccine after wave of blood clot deaths

Pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca changed the name of its Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine following a string of controversies about its efficacy and several deaths. The vaccine developed by the Anglo-Swedish pharmaceutical company in cooperation with Oxford University is now called Vaxzevria. It was previously known simply as the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.

The portal of the Swedish National Medicines Agency confirmed that the name change was approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) on March 25 following a request from the company. It also noted that the name change is not associated with any other change in the vaccine.

No official reason has been given for the name change.

Controversies hound AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine

AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine has made headlines several times for all the wrong reasons since it received the green light from the EMA in late January. Right after its approval, various countries in Europe decided to not use it for the elderly and chose to wait for more data.

Earlier this month, more than a dozen European countries temporarily suspended the use of AstraZeneca’s vaccine after cases of blood clots and low platelet counts emerged. (Related: Researchers confirm antibodies from the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine cause blood clots.)

The company had also been accused of withholding data to make the vaccine seem more effective than it actually was in human trials done in the U.S., Chile and Peru.

In response, the company has done its best to fight the controversies.

The company rectified its efficacy data while actually showing a higher efficacy rate at blocking symptoms in people over 65 years old. The latest data showed 85 percent efficacy, five points higher than the figure reported in March 22.

At the same time, the EMA’s Pharmacovigilance Risk Assessment Committee (PRAC) concluded that the vaccine is not associated with an increased risk of thromboembolic events and that its benefits still outweigh its risks.

But AstraZeneca has still found itself in the middle of another controversy as the European Commission announced tighter new controls on the export of vaccines produced within the European Union.

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[pvalle123]

you did not even make a post in this topic..

[BADecker]

Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective.


All he means is that about 50% who get the jab will die from it. Some die quick. Others die in agony.