Belgian Jupiler league 23/24 - discussion

[casperBGD]

remark: "i saw that there was one topic for Jupiler league, but it is more than two years without posts, so decided to make another one for this season"

it is not one of the top European leagues, but i started to follow it better, since all teams from Jupiler league are in sorare.com global fantasy soccer

last season title ended up in Brugge, with Club Brugge announced as champion due to 15 points difference when corona outbreak happened, and league did not resumed

season started during weekend, and seven matches are played, with two more to play today
league now has 18 clubs for next two seasons, due to Beveren complaint because the league was finished with 29 rounds, and then league accepted that Beveren should not be relegated, and beside Germinal Beerschot, Leuven is also promoted to Jupiler league, these two played play-off match for one spot, and Germinal took advantage, but in the end both teams are now part of Jupiler league, to have even number of teams

first round gave us a few surprises, biggest in Brugge, where Charleroi took all three points, but also in Kortrijk where Beveren won the match, and Antwerp, where Antwerp did not managed to win over Muscron, to confirm their good form after taking cup title last weekend over Brugge and fourth surprising result happened in St.Truiden, where Gent lost 2:1

on the other hand, Genk won in Waregem, with Dessers, maybe a biggest signing this year in Jupiler scored from penalty spot in a calm transfer season, where only Jonathan David from Gent, that will probably end up in Lille was a biggest news

first round results:
Club Brugge - Charleroi 0:1
Antwerp - Royal Mouscron 1:1
Standard Liege - Cercle Brugge 1:0
Sint Truiden - Gent 2:1
Zulte Waregem - Genk 1:2
Mechelen - Anderlecht 2:2
Kortrijk - Beveren 1:3

two more to play today:
Leuven - Eupen
Oostende - Beerschot

both matches between relegation candidates at the moment, and will skip them for betting at the moment

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[swogerino]

I think that this is not the first time in such league and other leagues alike like Switzerland Superleague that surprises happen in the first week.It just shows that the biggest teams of the league like Club Brugge do not take it that seriously the first round.I think they will recover as they have the best players in the league.

[babygun]

Nice to see a new topic about the Jupiler pro league  .
Indeed a surprising first round with AA Gent and Club Brugge loosing their matches. For Club, it was already the second setback as they lost the cup final against Antwerp.
But Club Brugge still has the best papers to win the competition as they didn't loose any good players. They could however use another striker.

[casperBGD]

two matches played yesterday, with future relegation contenders, but Beerschot already proved that they will probably have easier task than other three

Leuven - Eupen 1:1
Oostende - Beerschot 1:2

it was a bit of a new season start for Oostende new goalkeeper Guillaume Hubert, with goal conceived in first minute
https://www.sporttube.com/event/2871054#incident-8001692

[casperBGD]

https://www.besoccer.com/new/lille-to-pay-30-million-for-osimhen-s-replacement-871018

it is official, Gent striker Jonathan David signed for Lille, in a transfer worth 27 million

[LTU_btc]

I don't follow Belgian league much, but I watch some games. It's quite interesting and unpredictable league because they don't have 1-2 teams which dominate all time. And it reminds me Eredivisie a bit, because there is lot of young talents playing there.
First round started with quite many surprising results. But in second round I don't see something interesting because mainly obvious favorites will play against underdogs.
By the way, I'm the only one who always confuse Genk and Gent ?
P.S. @casperBGD, can you give more details about Sorare.com? As I understand, this is fantasy where you pick players from multiple leagues? Sounds interesting, but a bit complicated.

[casperBGD]

I don't follow Belgian league much, but I watch some games. It's quite interesting and unpredictable league because they don't have 1-2 teams which dominate all time. And it reminds me Eredivisie a bit, because there is lot of young talents playing there.
First round started with quite many surprising results. But in second round I don't see something interesting because mainly obvious favorites will play against underdogs.
By the way, I'm the only one who always confuse Genk and Gent ?
P.S. @casperBGD, can you give more details about Sorare.com? As I understand, this is fantasy where you pick players from multiple leagues? Sounds interesting, but a bit complicated.

yeah, it is confusing to have Genk and Gent in the same league

regarding sorare.com, it is a bit of off-topic, but do not know where to put it elsewhere, this is an interesting article reviewing the game
https://medium.com/@blockchainYNWA/sorare-beta-review-part-3-gameplay-5276a379c113

basically, when you sign-in for the game, you will get ten common players, that have no value, expect to play the game, and you can form teams in rookie competitions with them
next step is to buy player cards, that have three different levels:
- rare (100 cards of each player)
- super rare (10 cards of each player)
- unique - each player has one card

there are different competitions, where you assign your team of five players (goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, forward, and extra player that could be either defender, midfielder or forward) and those players receiving points based on their performance in real world matches

up to now, there is all Jupiler league, but also football giants Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Napoli, Lazio, Betis, Valencia, Lyon in the game, and they are adding new leagues (up to now Jupiler, MLS, K1 korea) and teams every now and then

if you have more questions, shoot

if you want to join, you can DM me for referral code

[casperBGD]

round 2 of Belgian Jupiler league, and my predictions for the round:
14.08.19:00  Mouscron - KV Mechelen X
this is a typical draw match, with a slightly better team as away team, but do not think that they will be able to pull through a win
15.08.16:30  Genk - Leuven 1
Genk has corona issues, with Bongonda in quarantine, but they are much stronger side than Leuven, so their win should not be questioned
15.08.19:00  Charleroi - Oostende x2
Charleroi could be a trap this weekend, they won last weekend in Brugge, but that was on one successful counter-attack note, and quote is low, so should be skipped
15.08. 19:00 Gent - Kortrijk 1
Gent sold David, but nevertheless has better squad than Kortrijk, so this should happen as home win
16.08. 13:30 Cercle Brugge KSV - Antwerp X
this is also a typical draw, Antwerp won a cup, but they did not managed to win first match in the league, and this does not seem as a win either
16.08. 16:00 Beerschot VA - Waregem 1
this is a good value quote for a home win, @2.35 it is a good pick, and Beerschot made a good start last week, they are in good form and believe that they will win first match at home, even without audience
16.08. 16:00 Eupen - Club Brugge KV X
this should come, but Eupen has a good goalkeeper, and i would skip betting on Brugge
16.08. 18:15 Anderlecht - St. Truiden 1
St. Truiden won first match at home, but this is to big for them, and i believe that Anderlecht will be back this season, after miserable last season, so this should be home win
17.08. 19:00 Waasland-Beveren - St. Liege 1x
Beveren stayed in the league after appeal and league increased number to 18, which is decreasing TV rights money for all other teams, but they had a good start in Kortrijk, and believe that they will not lost this one

[babygun]

round 2 of Belgian Jupiler league, and my predictions for the round:
14.08.19:00  Mouscron - KV Mechelen X
this is a typical draw match, with a slightly better team as away team, but do not think that they will be able to pull through a win
15.08.16:30  Genk - Leuven 1
Genk has corona issues, with Bongonda in quarantine, but they are much stronger side than Leuven, so their win should not be questioned
15.08.19:00  Charleroi - Oostende x2
Charleroi could be a trap this weekend, they won last weekend in Brugge, but that was on one successful counter-attack note, and quote is low, so should be skipped
15.08. 19:00 Gent - Kortrijk 1
Gent sold David, but nevertheless has better squad than Kortrijk, so this should happen as home win
16.08. 13:30 Cercle Brugge KSV - Antwerp X
this is also a typical draw, Antwerp won a cup, but they did not managed to win first match in the league, and this does not seem as a win either
16.08. 16:00 Beerschot VA - Waregem 1
this is a good value quote for a home win, @2.35 it is a good pick, and Beerschot made a good start last week, they are in good form and believe that they will win first match at home, even without audience
16.08. 16:00 Eupen - Club Brugge KV X
this should come, but Eupen has a good goalkeeper, and i would skip betting on Brugge
16.08. 18:15 Anderlecht - St. Truiden 1
St. Truiden won first match at home, but this is to big for them, and i believe that Anderlecht will be back this season, after miserable last season, so this should be home win
17.08. 19:00 Waasland-Beveren - St. Liege 1x
Beveren stayed in the league after appeal and league increased number to 18, which is decreasing TV rights money for all other teams, but they had a good start in Kortrijk, and believe that they will not lost this one

I agree with most of your predictions but I do think that Standard and Antwerp will win their matches. Waasland Beveren and Cercle Brugge are the teams that will end in the lower regions and both Standard and Antwerp have much more quality in their teams, so should easily win.
I am also avoiding betting on Club Brugge, they are too unpredictable at this moment.

[LTU_btc]

@casperBGD, thanks for sharing analysis. I will make some bets based on it. But I'm not sure that I'm going to watch games this weekend, none of these doesn't loojs very attractive. Though, there is not so many options when biggest leagues haven't started their season yet.
About fantasy, well, usually I don't play such kind of games because it requires too much time if I want to play seriously, but I will look into it.

[DarkDays]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if a previous thread of this sports league had no discussion or activity for over two years, then it is unlikely that your thread would continue to remain active.

But I really hope I am wrong. Personally out of all the teams in this division, I have only heard about Beerschot in the past. I think that is a big reason why this league is not followed widely because it has no star clubs like ManU or ManC.

Let's see how they do against Waregem 1 on Sat.

[casperBGD]

2nd round results:
Anderlecht 3 - 1 St. Truiden (won)
Beerschot VA 3 - 1 Waregem (won)
Eupen 0 - 4 Club Brugge KV (lost - X foreseen)
Cercle Brugge KSV 2 - 1 Antwerp (lost - X foreseen)
Charleroi 1 - 0 Oostende (lost - x2 foreseen)
Gent 1 - 2 Kortrijk (lost - 1 foreseen)
Genk 1 - 1 Leuven (lost - 1 foreseen)
Mouscron 0 - 1 KV Mechelen (lost - X foreseen)

could not say that it was a good weekend for my prognosis, and most surprising for me was Gent and Genk results on Saturday, Gent without David will need time to put it all together obviously, Brugge scored early and then destroyed Eupen, and Beerschot proved that they are not going to be one season wonder in Jupiler

there is one more match today, between Beveren and Standard

[babygun]

Indeed, another surprising loss for AA Gent. This will most probably be the end for their coach Jesse Thorup...
Good to see the big win of Club Brugge, seems to be they are finally finding their rhythm.

[casperBGD]

and the last match yesterday was between Beveren and Standard, where Standard won 1:2, although i expected Beveren to held and not lose this one, stay tuned for round 3

[LTU_btc]

I see that player that I follow - Terem Moffi scored his 1st goal this season for Kortrijk. Mark my words - soon we will see this guy in much better team. There was rumours some tume ago that Rangers are interested in him.

But I really hope I am wrong. Personally out of all the teams in this division, I have only heard about Beerschot in the past. I think that is a big reason why this league is not followed widely because it has no star clubs like ManU or ManC.

Well, Beerschot isn't most famous club from Belgium. It's strange that you didn't hear clubs like Brugge, Genk or Anderlecht, they always play in Champion and Europa league.
Offcourse, it's not EPL or La Liga, but it's decent league, 8th in UEFA ranking, above Eredivisie or Turkish league

[casperBGD]

round 3 of Belgian Jupiler league:
21.08. 19:00 Kortrijk - Eupen X
22.08. 16:15 Waregem - Waasland-Beveren 1
22.08. 18:30 KV Mechelen - Cercle Brugge KSV 1
22.08. 18:30 Leuven - Charleroi 2
22.08. 20:45 Antwerp - Gent X
23.08. 13:30 St. Liege - Genk X
23.08. 16:00 Club Brugge KV - Beerschot VA x2
23.08. 18:15 Anderlecht - Mouscron 1
24.08. 20:45 St. Truiden - Oostende X

Kortrijk plays Eupen tonight and i expect a draw, with same expectation in Antwerp and Liege matches, Charleroi should do good with Leuven, since Leuven has a lot of injured players, will be interesting to see how Beerschot will do in Brugge, and IMO Mechelen and Anderlecht should solve their home matches easily

[swogerino]

round 3 of Belgian Jupiler league:
21.08. 19:00 Kortrijk - Eupen X
22.08. 16:15 Waregem - Waasland-Beveren 1
22.08. 18:30 KV Mechelen - Cercle Brugge KSV 1
22.08. 18:30 Leuven - Charleroi 2
22.08. 20:45 Antwerp - Gent X
23.08. 13:30 St. Liege - Genk X
23.08. 16:00 Club Brugge KV - Beerschot VA x2
23.08. 18:15 Anderlecht - Mouscron 1
24.08. 20:45 St. Truiden - Oostende X

Kortrijk plays Eupen tonight and i expect a draw, with same expectation in Antwerp and Liege matches, Charleroi should do good with Leuven, since Leuven has a lot of injured players, will be interesting to see how Beerschot will do in Brugge, and IMO Mechelen and Anderlecht should solve their home matches easily

I think quite a lot of results are considered unexpected and the main one that caught my eye is Club Brugge as if I understood correctly you are betting against them and the team that plays against is a weak team I believe.I think although that Club Brugge have started the Championship not really well and although that other team is momentarily at the top of the standings I still think Club Brugge is going to win.If the odd is good enough and if I had any money left I would bet on Club Brugge to win the game.

[babygun]

Club Brugge is big favorite against Beerschot but odd for Club to win is only around 1.3. So there is value in double chance for Beerschot.
Beerschot started the competition in a good way and will be highly motivated against a top team

[casperBGD]

round 3 results:
21.08. 19:00 Kortrijk - Eupen X - 0:0 (won)
22.08. 16:15 Waregem - Waasland-Beveren 1 - 4:1 (won)
22.08. 18:30 KV Mechelen - Cercle Brugge KSV 1 - 2:3 (lost)
22.08. 18:30 Leuven - Charleroi 2 - 1:3 (won)
22.08. 20:45 Antwerp - Gent X - 1:0 (lost)
23.08. 13:30 St. Liege - Genk X - 0:0 (won)
23.08. 16:00 Club Brugge KV - Beerschot VA x2 - 0:1 (won)
23.08. 18:15 Anderlecht - Mouscron 1 - 1:1 (lost)
24.08. 20:45 St. Truiden - Oostende X

so, with one match on Monday, have predicted good five results, including surprise Beerschot victory in Brugge, and two draws, what was not expected is that Gent will be on the bottom, after three rounds, with zero points, and that Anderlecht will take just a draw with Mouscron, but extra-time goal by Gnohere was enough for Mouscron to take a point, while playing more than one-half with 10 players

Beerschot and Charleroi are at the top after three rounds, which is far from expected, and probably would not stay for a long time

[YOSHIE]

remark: "i saw that there was one topic for Jupiler league, but it is more than two years without posts, so decided to make another one for this season"

No problem, if the OP updates every week, so anyone who bets and places bets in the Belgian Jupiler league, especially the Bitcointalk community can have a live look at the OP topic.

Oh yes I added a little to their fixtures live.
Can be seen here:

Belgian Jupiler League fixtures.

And the fixtures for this week.

Belgian First Division A Schedule

I hope the Jupiler Belgian league match, in 2020, can go smoothly and be successful.