Misuse of hand sanitizers dangerous to health

[Charles-Tim]

There was a news I read on CNN: People are dying after drinking hand sanitizer, CDC says
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/05/health/hand-sanitizer-cdc-warning-study-wellness/index.html

(CNN)- People are getting sick and even dying after swallowing hand sanitizer, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday. Four died and others have suffered impaired vision or seizures, the CDC says.

I was very shocked when I read this and research for possible reasons hand sanitizers can be ingested leading to death. The reason for the ingestion of hand sanitizers not yet known, but possibly some people could think the composition of hand sanitizers could not be harmful. According to World Health Organization, the recommended hand sanitizer composition are:

Hand Sanitizer Composition recommended by WHO
Isopropyl alcohol or ethanol
Hydrogen peroxide
Glycerol
Sterile distilled or boiled cold water

Normally, mild or recommended does of all the components used for hand sanitizers are unharmful, this could (maybe) be the reason why thses are the combinations recommended by WHO,. Some people could broswed about it and concluded it not harmful, they could just feel sick which may not even be covid 19 disease but ingested hand sanitizer and died. But, I still think of this, why people are having impaired vision and/or dying? This led me to these findings.

Alcohols
Isopropyl alcohol and ethanol mild consumption are not dangerous, isopropyl alcohol excessive consumption is not safe, which is used to attempt suicide but the best which is recommended is the ethanol which is used in making alcoholic drinks. The rest of the alcohols (methanol, rubbing and denatured alcohols) are poisonous to our health.

Methanol poisoning
Methyl alcohol (methanol) is the most dangerous of its kind, when consumed, the body broken it down into formaldehyde first by alcohol dehydrogenase which is later converted to formate by aldehyde dehydrogenase, this takes place in the liver.

Direct symptoms of methanol ingestion
1. It directly depresses the central nervous system

Symptom by forming format (formic acid)
1. It cause impaired vision or completely loss of vision
2. Acidosis
3. putaminal hemorrhages
4. Unconsciousnes
5. Progress to death by respiratory failure.

With the symptoms listed above, I think people are now using metanol in making hand sanitizers which is dangerous to health. Even, it can be absorped through the skin, inhale through it fumes and dangerous but its ingestion makes it more dangous and can lead to impaired vision and/or death.

Advice
1. Be careful and purchase good and recommended hand sanitizer
2. Ingestion of hand sanitizers is not appropriate, if anyone develop any illness, the person should not even think it is corona virus and should report this in hospital as soon as possible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol_toxicity
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/05/health/hand-sanitizer-cdc-warning-study-wellness/index.html
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-make-hand-sanitizer#how-to-make


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[BIT-BENDER]

It's just the corona virus event's, some +face mask sold are reused,
+ Sanitizers - causing harm
+ Vaccine. -well some impaired/bad effect may be observed/seen-

We have been washing our hands with soap before corona virus, now we are in a virus period sanitizers becomes a must have even in homes - sanitizers should be when you don't have access to a soap and a water on the go because it's handy- some ignorantly rub the sanitizers on their faces.
The fear/dread already created about the covid-19 causing more harm than the novel corona virus itself.
Even in a medical treatment process there is emphasises to relax patient anxiety, more action in relaxing citizens this period should be done. Promote
+ Previous/normal healthy live style people do -even before corona-
Eating,exercising, avoid non sterile areas like subways railings, bus supports,dust bins and more.
 A relaxed mind, health life/immune will go far in covid-19 battle

[enhu]

I have read the feed on my phone about the news where people died ingesting sanitizers. As to why they did it is probably a suicide attempt. Even if its ingredients are the not harmful ones, drinking sanitizers still something that normal people don't do. If the patients died because the ingredients are harmful, who manufactured and where do these sanitizers came from?

[Charles-Tim]

The fear/dread already created about the covid-19 causing more harm than the novel corona virus itself.
Even in a medical treatment process there is emphasises to relax patient anxiety, more action in relaxing citizens this period should be done. Promote
+ Previous/normal healthy live style people do -even before corona-
Eating,exercising, avoid non sterile areas like subways railings, bus supports,dust bins and more.
A relaxed mind, health life/immune will go far in covid-19 battle

Well, your comments are good and helpful also. There have been some topics created by Jet Cash about covid-19 in relation to immunity, healthy living and appropriate food and fruit consumption in Serious discussion board, many of this issue are addressed too. For more reading, you can check the link above. You are very right.

Like you commented, imo too, using soap to wash hands will be better at home, while sanitizers would be better for outdoor purposes.

f the patients died because the ingredients are harmful, who manufactured and where do these sanitizers came from?

This is the question that governments need to answer after making appropriate investigations. Normally, only the poisoning alcohol called methanol could result to vision loss or impairment, and that can also lead to fast dead when not even consumed in excess. The people or companies manufacturing this type of sernitizers needs to be jailed. But I guess, it will be locally made sanitizers which are not recommended. Industrially made ones are better, the ones that will be properly monitored by certain government bodies related to public health. The ingredients used to make the sanitizers will be listed on the sanitizers package, we should also check this out to make sure that only ethanol or isopropyl alcohols is used with the three other ingredients, and to make sure no other ingredent(s) added. WHO recommendation should be strictly and completely followed.

[Gyfts]

I didn't realize people could be so stupid until this pandemic hit and people are drinking fish tank cleaner or shoving light bulbs up their asses trying to kill coronavirus. COVID-19 is a giant Darwinism experiment.

[o_e_l_e_o]

You shouldn't be using hand sanitizers which contain methanol, even if you aren't moronic enough to be drinking them. If you have any, you should dispose of them and replace them with ones containing ethanol.

Interestingly, one of the antidotes for methanol poisoning is ethanol, i.e. standard drinking alcohol. Methanol itself is only really as toxic as ethanol is, but methanol is metabolized in the liver to formic acid, which is highly toxic. If you drink ethanol, the enzymes in the liver responsible for converting methanol to formic acid preferentially convert ethanol to acetic acid, giving the kidneys time to excrete the methanol before it is broken down in to the highly toxic formic acid.

[Charles-Tim]

If you drink ethanol, the enzymes in the liver responsible for converting methanol to formic acid preferentially convert ethanol to acetic acid, giving the kidneys time to excrete the methanol before it is broken down in to the highly toxic formic acid.

Yes, this is right. Aside ethanol, fomepizole can also be used. Both fomepizole and ethanol act the same way by reducing the action of alcohol dehydrogenase on methanol through competitive inhibition in which fomepizole or ethanol compete with methanol in a way less methanol is converted and many methanol are not able to convert to formate but extreted by the kidney.

If fomepizole is not avalable, then ethanol is the best option which is more available.

[franky1]

I didn't realize people could be so stupid until this pandemic hit and people are drinking fish tank cleaner or shoving light bulbs up their asses trying to kill coronavirus. COVID-19 is a giant Darwinism experiment.

guess you missed the posts of badecker telling people to drink bleach and also the news of someone in his own homestate dying due to it . yet badecker knowing one of his own locals died due to it still thought people should drink bleach and he carried on for many weeks after telling people to drink it(facepalm)

you would be very surprised that there are ~10% of people that think covid is fake
you would be very surprised that 20% of people think that sick people get treated in the public lobby of a hospital and not the private wards

and the most surprising thing of all the 10% people that think its fake majority of them are 'preppers' that always think of conspiracys of there being secret wars in peacetime so need to prep. but when an actual event occurs that would be worthy of prepping. they deny it even happened and call it fake news

there is just no logic to these idiots

[BADecker]

I didn't realize people could be so stupid until this pandemic hit and people are drinking fish tank cleaner or shoving light bulbs up their asses trying to kill coronavirus. COVID-19 is a giant Darwinism experiment.

guess you missed the posts of badecker telling people to drink bleach and also the news of someone in his own homestate dying due to it . yet badecker knowing one of his own locals died due to it still thought people should drink bleach and he carried on for many weeks after telling people to drink it(facepalm)

you would be very surprised that there are ~10% of people that think covid is fake
you would be very surprised that 20% of people think that sick people get treated in the public lobby of a hospital and not the private wards

and the most surprising thing of all the 10% people that think its fake majority of them are 'preppers' that always think of conspiracys of there being secret wars in peacetime so need to prep. but when an actual event occurs that would be worthy of prepping. they deny it even happened and call it fake news

there is just no logic to these idiots

Hey, thanks franky1. Yeah, people are being cured of all kinds of things by drinking a little bleach in water. I mean, if you live in the city, you already have it in all your drinking water. And it's in essentially all the bottled drinking water. Trouble is, the water-people put so little of it in the water, that it barely does any good at all. So, if you add the same kind of bleach to water in a little greater amount, it can cure you of lots of stuff.

The bleach in question is chlorine dioxide. It is used all over the world for water purification. Dupont sells it in bulk. But it is easy to make cheaply. Simply mix 5 drops of 50% citric acid solution, with 5 drops of 28% sodium chloriTe solution, and wait about 3 minutes. You might stir the mixture a bit during the 3 minutes. Then dump it into, say, 12 ounces of water, stir a little, and chug it down. Btw, search for it on the Net. There are people selling it all over the place... way cheaper than the doctor charges you for medicine.

The tiny amount of bleach in there is good for killing off all kinds of "bugs" and for neutralizing many different toxins in your body. But the flavor isn't especially inviting. So you have a natural protection in the taste, that will keep you from consuming too much.

Btw, the guy that died that F-1 is talking about, consumed some other kind of bleach in amounts that were way more dangerous than this tiny amount of sodium chlorite. So, follow the directions, and you will be safe as well as cured... if you take it everyday for a while.


Regarding people who think that Covid is fake, there are way more people who think it is way more dangerous than it really is. When you check the real death statistics in the cities, and counties, and States, you find that the total deaths are essentially the same as any year, and less than some years. This means that the statistics are being massaged to take away from things like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, car accidents, and all kinds of other thing, just to make Covid look way worse than it is.

It's really a shame that people don't understand what is going on, and that they are letting their lives be destroyed by a bunch of lies from government and medical leaders. So, thanks again, franky1, for prompting me to list a few websites where anybody can go to check out the facts and the logic, that shows us all that the medical leaders are lying to us about Covid.

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/

https://altcensored.com/watch?v=otRN0X6F81c

https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI


Keep up the good work franky1. But I sure hope you wake up before you are hurt by your own unwillingness to look at the truth... be it truth about Covid, or truth about the bad parts of being a troll.

[akram143]

Had sanitizers contain fuel agents like ethanol so it will get fire in no time and I had seen lot of videos about fires got burnt when they misused the sanitizer while they are in kitchen.It is helpful to kill the living organisms in our health which means it is poisonous too so people should be really careful while applying them.

[Jet Cash]

You have got to be mad to drink anything like that, but then people smoke cigarettes, so obviously a lot of the population has no sense.

Hand sanitisers destroy the bacteria that kills the Corona virus in under 5 minutes, so in my opinion, they help the spread of the virus, rather than slowing it.

[Naida_BR]

You have got to be mad to drink anything like that, but then people smoke cigarettes, so obviously a lot of the population has no sense.

Hand sanitisers destroy the bacteria that kills the Corona virus in under 5 minutes, so in my opinion, they help the spread of the virus, rather than slowing it.

Hand sanitasers and masks, gloves do not help us be protected at all.
We use them and we think that we are protected but actuallly we are not. This way, we become more reckless and we touch our mouth,eyes etc due to the fact that we feel protected...

[Jet Cash]

Acrtally, I don't think there is anything you can eat or drink that will kill the virus. Anything you try will either poison you, or will be neutralised by your body's defence mechanism. The only things that would work are immune boosting foods, such as citrus fruits, broccoli, spinach, almonds, and many other healthy and natural produce.

[franky1]

Hand sanitisers destroy the bacteria that kills the Corona virus in under 5 minutes, so in my opinion, they help the spread of the virus, rather than slowing it.

Hey, thanks franky1. Yeah, people are being cured of all kinds of things by drinking a little bleach in water.
The tiny amount of bleach in there is good for killing off all kinds of "bugs" and for neutralizing many different toxins in your body.

two idiots
drinking bleach goes in the stomach. not the lungs
so it wont kill te virus in the lungs

bleach however can kill the healthy stuff in your throat. which is why drinking pool water can give you a sore throat because its burning your throat
for each ounce of water should be  0.000,000,05 parts of chlorine
for swim pools 1 ounce should be   0.000,000,2 parts of chlorine
for badecker clown recipe he says 0.001,5  (5 drops per 12 ounce)

yep badecker wants people to drink something 30,000x stronger than drinking water
yep badecker wants people to drink something 7,500x stronger than pool water
yep badecker and jetcash think what your drink gets into your lungs(facepalm) without damaging/causing issues elesewhere first

[franky1]

Acrtally, I don't think there is anything you can eat or drink that will kill the virus. Anything you try will either poison you, or will be neutralised by your body's defence mechanism. The only things that would work are immune boosting foods, such as citrus fruits, broccoli, spinach, almonds, and many other healthy and natural produce.

by the way if you got a hole in your motor homes fuel tank. it doesnt matter how much fuel you keep filling it with, you wont get very far without your engine conking out alot and needing refilling
the miles to the gallon ratio would be very grappy because most of the fuel peed out of the hole and was never used by the engine

magadosing doesnt solve issues
finding other solutions does
like
injecting fuel directly into the engine(blood plasma donation) thus avoiding the need of the damaged fueltank
fixing the fuel tank(other medications(stuff HIV people take))

immuno deficient(not enough fuel in a car with no issues) is different from immuno surpressed(fueltank damage)

[BADecker]

Hand sanitisers destroy the bacteria that kills the Corona virus in under 5 minutes, so in my opinion, they help the spread of the virus, rather than slowing it.

Hey, thanks franky1. Yeah, people are being cured of all kinds of things by drinking a little bleach in water.
The tiny amount of bleach in there is good for killing off all kinds of "bugs" and for neutralizing many different toxins in your body.

two idiots
drinking bleach goes in the stomach. not the lungs
so it wont kill te virus in the lungs

Did you ever have the guy from the public water department come into your house to add bleach to your water supply in your pipes? Of course not. I wonder how the bleach he added at the water plant made it all the way to your house, lol.

bleach however can kill the healthy stuff in your throat. which is why drinking pool water can give you a sore throat because its burning your throat
for each ounce of water should be  0.000,000,05 parts of chlorine
for swim pools 1 ounce should be   0.000,000,2 parts of chlorine
for badecker clown recipe he says 0.001,5  (5 drops per 12 ounce)

Thanks, F-1. You show us again how ignorant you are. You can't seem to figure out that most of the 5 drops is water. And then it gets diluted in the 12 ounces, and then again in your circulatory system.

Don't you even realize that the public water system is there to put only as much bleach in water so that it kills off germs in water? At times you need water without bleach in it. When you need more bleach, to fight off germs in your body, you need to use more yourself. Standard bleach-in-water amounts aren't for fighting diseases in your body. They are simply a general disease control method in the public water system.

yep badecker wants people to drink something 30,000x stronger than drinking water
yep badecker wants people to drink something 7,500x stronger than pool water
yep badecker and jetcash think what your drink gets into your lungs(facepalm) without damaging/causing issues elesewhere first

Seems that franky1 wants you to take all the poisons in medicines, when a little bleach in water can do as much good. Of course, franky1 wants you to take medicine poison because he and his buddies make money.

Hand sanitizers that have bleach and water without much of anything else in them, are probably good for you. The bleach will be absorbed into your system through your skin, and will do much of the same thing as drinking MMS-water does... kill off germs not only on your hands, but throughout your whole system, as well. Just be sure to use the right bleach. Probably household bleach isn't good for you, but it might be. Chlorine dioxide which is good for you is a gas. It's difficult to disperse it through the water in the hand sanitizer. That's why MMS is far better.

Andreas Kalcker explains how bleach-water in your system kills Covid. Click the links at the site - https://andreaskalcker.com/en/.

[BADecker]

Acrtally, I don't think there is anything you can eat or drink that will kill the virus. Anything you try will either poison you, or will be neutralised by your body's defence mechanism. The only things that would work are immune boosting foods, such as citrus fruits, broccoli, spinach, almonds, and many other healthy and natural produce.

by the way if you got a hole in your motor homes fuel tank. it doesnt matter how much fuel you keep filling it with, you wont get very far without your engine conking out alot and needing refilling
the miles to the gallon ratio would be very grappy because most of the fuel peed out of the hole and was never used by the engine

magadosing doesnt solve issues
finding other solutions does
like
injecting fuel directly into the engine(blood plasma donation) thus avoiding the need of the damaged fueltank
fixing the fuel tank(other medications(stuff HIV people take))

immuno deficient(not enough fuel in a car with no issues) is different from immuno surpressed(fueltank damage)

franky1 doesn't even realize that all fuel tanks are designed with at least two holes... the filler-tube hole, and the hole for the line out to the engine.

If you want to see what injecting fuel directly into the engine does, watch the end of the movie Mad Max: Fury Road.

Btw, for the sake of saving the life of your vehicle, don't inject blood plasma into the engine at all!  

[Jet Cash]

My diesel engine injects fuel directly into the cylinders, but then bleach isn't a fuel.

As for killing bacteria. My body is full of beneficial bacteria, and the last thing I want to do is to kill them. Hence the reason that I won't use skin sanitisers.

[franky1]

Seems that franky1 wants you to take all the poisons in medicines, when a little bleach in water can do as much good. Of course, franky1 wants you to take medicine poison because he and his buddies make money.

i havnt been the one telling people to take HCQ .. YOU have

also by your own admission . the snake oil you say is potent venom that can do magic and only needing 5 drops. is actually just water in of itself.. thus the product your advertising isnt even the thing you say it is

the problem is.. while you and your affiliates advertise water as chorine..
people actually buy chlorine from other sources and use it at the 5drop concentrate you advertise..
thus they get sick

i know you want to say its not your fault that they didnt buy your fake-chlorine(water) and they died by actually buying chlorine.
but your still the idiot saying to people they should ingest chlorine

[BADecker]

Seems that franky1 wants you to take all the poisons in medicines, when a little bleach in water can do as much good. Of course, franky1 wants you to take medicine poison because he and his buddies make money.

i havnt been the one telling people to take HCQ .. YOU have

also by your own admission . the snake oil you say is potent venom that can do magic and only needing 5 drops. is actually just water in of itself.. thus the product your advertising isnt even the thing you say it is

the problem is.. while you and your affiliates advertise water as chorine..
people actually buy chlorine from other sources and use it at the 5drop concentrate you advertise..
thus they get sick

i know you want to say its not your fault that they didnt buy your fake-chlorine(water) and they died by actually buying chlorine.
but your still the idiot saying to people they should ingest chlorine

There you go again. HCQ is partially bleach. Look for the doctors who tell you how HCQ works. Watch near the beginning of this video, for a doctor that explains HCQ action with zinc, in a very clear way - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI. He's the doctor that is linked in to the meeting over the Internet; he's not actually present.

The point of your statement about HCQ is, I never mentioned it in my post you quoted. But you know haw you promote doctors and hospitals all over the place. That means you promote medicines in general.


Chlorine dioxide isn't exactly chlorine. The compound is different than the element. They act differently. If you don't want people to ingest chlorine, why haven't you been telling them to 100% stay away from table salt? As usual, all you are trying to do is mix things up. You post things that are untrue about me, and then you post things that are wrong about yourself.

Further, nowhere did I talk about magic. In addition, it is YOU who are not reading what I said enough that you even know what I was talking about.


But, I understand. When your thinking ability is only firing on 3 out of 8 cylinders, anything might happen. At least you might regulate which 3 cylinders, so that your thinking engine is a little more balanced. There's so much vibration in there, that you are shaking yourself apart.