Russia has developed covid-19 vaccine.

[Charles-Tim]

When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718

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[Collier1]

It's a welcoming and significant development for sure.

But on the other hand, most counties have seen the struggle for covid-19 vaccine as being a struggle for supremacy among other nations and not necessarily a struggle to save the world. The aggressive and speedy progress from some countries who are eager to be declared premier on possible victory on one of the worst outbreaks in the world be (Covid-19) is something to worry about as well because this assumable competition would possibly led to an unreliable cure which could turn to be harmful or give people a false sense of security about their immunity. Global health experts had warned that most countries are skipping some of the critical and large-scale testing that is essential to determine if a possible covid-19 protection is safe and effective.

Disclaimer: I don't mean 'Sputnik V' is one of those.

[Juggy777]

When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718

@Charles-Tim yea I saw this news too and I’m skeptical about Russia’s claim, and furthermore I don’t expect anyone to try it unless WHO and other medical bodies can certify that this vaccine is safe. Also I hope that Russia’s citizens will give it a miss, otherwise they’ll be risking their life’s on an untried vaccine who’s side effects are yet not known to us.

[franky1]

russia 'mass vaccination campaign' is not a full population campaign
its a phase 3 study of a few thousand people.. mainly doctors and teachers(people in professions that usually know how to report things and not be stupid about reporting things) thus the results from this 'mass' would actually be more accurate than other studies

america for instance will accept anyone from any background. meaning they might get more flawed results with people stupidly saying their 23yo son who didnt get the vaccine suddenly is diagnosed with autism 'because' the mother volunteered for the vaccine (usual vaccine autism nonsense random idiots say)

some will say the vaccine failed due to the cellphone usage.(usual 5g nonsense) even though they ddnt get sick. they just read somewhere that cellphones destroy stuff so assume it failed based on the stupid article they read

..
i find it really funny how some idiots take the word 'mass' from the reality of more then a dozen(meaning a few thousand) but then pretend it means full population..
i think the joke is on the idiots that dont check the facts beyond the first google search link they find

,, heres some good reading about the only doctors and teachers bits the OP didnt actually read
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53621708
yea its filled with snip bits of 'russian hackers' and stuff.. to spoil the relevant parts..

but for added fun
the BBC reports how the UK's phase 2 has already got a deal that has already made 100million doses of its version for british use..
the funny parts are UK is only phase 2 stage also. but already preping for mass population usage
and also 100m doses just for the UK...... theres only 65mill people and not everyone will needs/want it..

[af_newbie]

When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718

I would trust a word coming from Putin's mouth. Trusting Russians is just plain stupid.  These people say one thing, think another and do yet another, all while being half drunk.  Most are moral and ethical degenerates.

They can have it.

[Charles-Tim]

but for added fun
the BBC reports how the UK's phase 2 has already got a deal that has already made 100million doses of its version for british use..
the funny parts are UK is only phase 2 stage also. but already preping for mass population usage
and also 100m doses just for the UK...... theres only 65mill people and not everyone will needs/want it..

This is not fun at all, you have actually pointed out the truth. I have gone through the link you provided and from it I saw another link:

Oxford vaccine triggers immune response
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53469839

Because of the short period of time, they have not run for long enough to understand how long the antibodies (against the virus) produced by the body will last, the study in the Lancet showed. But, as time goes on, this will be known. Over 90% UK patient that were given one dose of the vaccine showed positive result while the remianing 10% people showed positive result after given 2 doeses of the vaccine. You are right. And this is just still second phase of testing.

[franky1]

but for added fun
the BBC reports how the UK's phase 2 has already got a deal that has already made 100million doses of its version for british use..
the funny parts are UK is only phase 2 stage also. but already preping for mass population usage
and also 100m doses just for the UK...... theres only 65mill people and not everyone will needs/want it..

This is not fun at all, you have actually pointed out the truth. I have gone through the link you provided and from it I saw another link:

Oxford vaccine triggers immune response
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53469839

Because of the short period of time, they have not run for long enough to understand how long the antibodies (against the virus) produced by the body will last, the study in the Lancet showed. But, as time goes on, this will be known. Over 90% UK patient that were given one dose of the vaccine showed positive result while the remianing 10% people showed positive result after given 2 doeses of the vaccine. So, UK has gone far beyond. You are right. And this is just still second phase of testing.

my point is
while russia done its phase 2 and is doing a phase 3 with doctos and teachers in october. where russia is not promoting it has millions of doses prepped for mass population

bbc is saying how the UK is still at the phase 2 also done phase 3 simultaneously(wheres UK's wait and see)
and also produced 100m doses ready and is yet  phase 2 isnt finished and yet to finish phase 3

heck even america will make millions of doses before actually getting to phase 3

kinda funny at the hypocrisy
(by the way im british yet i can see the irony/hypocrisy in my own countries media announcements)

remember
BBC Says UK is mid way thought 2&3, already marketed/produced 100m doses. yet to get final rests of 2or3
BBC says russia passed phase 2 and yet to market/produce mass amounts. and will start phase 3 in october
while also prepping millions of doses
..
reality.
both UK and russia are going to do phase 3 .. WHILST manufacturing(but not releasing hundreds of millions of doses)
russia's plan is the same as the UK plan.. just worded biasedly to make russia look bad and uk look better. yet its the same thing if you untwist the wording

[Charles-Tim]

reality.
both UK and russia are going to do phase 3 .. WHILST manufacturing(but not releasing hundreds of millions of doses)
russia's plan is the same as the UK plan.. just worded biasedly to make russia look bad and uk look better. yet its the same thing if you untwist the wording

You are right. And we should hope for best outcome of the phase 3.

[BADecker]

In addition, the only way anybody, Russia included, can do safety studies, is to do them over time. Generally speaking, 4 or 5 years are needed for safety studies. If Russia has done those, they already had their vaccine 4 or 5 years ago or more. This might be possible for Coronavirus, or for SARS, but not for Covid-19, except that Covid has been around for all that time, and the whole pandemic thing was planned long ago.

[electronicash]

he seem to be guaranteeing its effectiveness that he said his daughters had been vaccinated.

why risk his daughters if its not tested. i think this will really be a good development for all. whether UK or Russia will be the first to provide, either of them will do as long as it could help all of us to continue living the normal life. this lockdown seem stopping the kids to learn in school.

[BADecker]

he seem to be guaranteeing its effectiveness that he said his daughters had been vaccinated.

why risk his daughters if its not tested. i think this will really be a good development for all. whether UK or Russia will be the first to provide, either of them will do as long as it could help all of us to continue living the normal life. this lockdown seem stopping the kids to learn in school.

Note that there are differences in vaccines produced by different countries. If his daughters got the dead virus in a saline solution, they might be totally safe. It's when you add all kinds of garbage like dead-baby cells, and mercury, and aluminum, and formaldehyde, and monkey parts, and who knows what else - like they do in America - that things become dangerous.

[Artemis3]

Excellent, it so happens that my country is in good relation with Putin. Should it come from USA or UK, we would not see a pint of it until next year, if ever. And Trump wouldn't allow export of it anyway.

China also has 3 vaccines in testing, but i guess Russia rushed it (first post lol), Putin went so far as to place his own daughter at risk...

[franky1]

It's when you add all kinds of garbage like mercury and monkey parts, and who knows what else

(facepalm) your stuck in the 1960's

you get more meth-mercury from eating one plate of fish than a dozen 1960's vaccines.
as for worrying about monkey kidneys. wel again worry more about the fish guts contaminating the filleted fish

i am not a vegan and i love meat. and thats why i know the 'harm' from the amount of kidney cells and mercury is of no consequence. so the harm from vaccine adjuncts in 1960's even even less consequential

by the way methyl-murcury and ethyl-mercury are not the same
its like alcohol vs crystal meth on the scale of risk
yes 1960's meth' was bad. but on a consequential scale of the amount you have .. not really
modern ethyl is safer. and on a consequential scale of the amount you have. even safer

but hey. go tell people to drink your 5 drops of chlorine(0.2ml) vs and avoid ethylmerc(0.005ml)

i know some vegans say dont eat red meat because it causes cancer.. no
the potassium salts used for preserving red meat do. salt brine preservatives in chicken do
and thats because they use a hell of a lot of salts and preservatives

EG chicken can be inflated by atleast 20% salt brine.
so worrying about 0.001% of something and still eating 20% of another. just makes you look like a fool by putting so much effort into the 0.001% thing

[akram143]

Excellent, it so happens that my country is in good relation with Putin. Should it come from USA or UK, we would not see a pint of it until next year, if ever. And Trump wouldn't allow export of it anyway.

China also has 3 vaccines in testing, but i guess Russia rushed it (first post lol), Putin went so far as to place his own daughter at risk...

And also it could be a proud related thing for Russia against other developed nation, especially with USA because Russia still got bullied for not reaching the moon first so this is like Vaccine race between the countries to make themselves as better in the health care system.

[franky1]

And also it could be a proud related thing for Russia against other developed nation, especially with USA because Russia still got bullied for not reaching the moon first so this is like Vaccine race between the countries to make themselves as better in the health care system.

russia is part of the international agreement where it will share the vaccine
part of the national agreement is to offset some amounts for the most needed country at the time

right now thats brazil but by october it might be somewhere else. so although they are going to be prepping factories to mass produce vaccines while doing the phase 3
other countries already started prepping factories.
yep UK has 100m and has not said which counties get priority yet. yep100m and they havnt even finished phase 2 even though they started phase 3

i know im repeating myself but it just needs emphasising as some readers take time before it sinks in that there is more to a topic title than the title suggests

[philipma1957]

When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718

I would trust a word coming from Putin's mouth. Trusting Russians is just plain stupid.  These people say one thing, think another and do yet another, all while being half drunk.  Most are moral and ethical degenerates.

They can have it.

Wow I have more than 1 Russian friend that is not a moral or ethical degenerate.

That said they are no further ahead than a few other countries. No one has tested 10,000 people for 6 months which is a bare minimum to even declare it is 'safe'

[tvbcof]

The key to 'success' in vaxx-land is to choose a target ailment which isn't a problem.  Marketing, fake news, and fake science will handle the rest.

Put a big green check-mark in front of 'SARS-CoV-2' for something which, if it exists at all, is completely non-problematic and most people are already immune to anyway.  That's probably why something like 150 'vaccine makers' popped up out of the woodwork to try their hand at a 'covid-19 vaccine.'  Anyone who can fill a syringe with saline can be a successful 'covid-19 vaccine maker.'

[bitsurfer2014]

Let's just hope and pray that this vaccine would be the real deal because if this really works, it could definitely save millions of lives not to mention that it could alleviate fear and anxiety among humanity.

Now I think we cannot underestimate Russia's capacity to develop such vaccines but I still have some reservations since my country has been previously subjected to controversy related to mass administration of vaccines which in this case was  a Dengue vaccine.

This scandal was caused by poor coordination with the vaccine manufacturer with regards to vaccine's side effects and my Goverment's negligence to take certain precautions before implementing the mass vaccination program which unfortunately caused deaths among a few number of children.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengvaxia_controversy

[lepbagong]

the world is racing against time because of the covid pandemic which has not yet been able to handle which is encouraging or until the stage where there is no more transmission and is finished completely.
Immediately there is a need for vaccines and medicinal drugs so that this pandemic will end soon or at least a very significant transmission will not occur again.

So with the discovery that occurred in Russia where it was tested in the third fae (phase to humans), of course it is good news, and Russia is trying that the third phase can be completed soon and can be mass produced immediately.
but there is also some discouraging news that the vaccine has not been recognized, this could make the atmosphere even less conducive.

we know that in several countries such as China and my country also do,  the vaccines even though my country is originally from China. have also tested the vaccine in the third phase but the results to be obtained still need more time. in my country it is estimated that it will be completed in 2021 and will only be mass produced after the third phase of the mass test runs with satisfactory results.

where we are chased by time, but the existing vaccines still need a long time, clearly this is alarming news. Russia is one of those who dared to do the acceleration to be able to immediately overcome the pandemic which will end soon. We have to appreciate the Russian state in this regard, hopefully it can be used quickly and effectively.

[Spendulus]

Excellent, it so happens that my country is in good relation with Putin. Should it come from USA or UK, we would not see a pint of it until next year, if ever. And Trump wouldn't allow export of it anyway.

China also has 3 vaccines in testing, but i guess Russia rushed it (first post lol), Putin went so far as to place his own daughter at risk...

And also it could be a proud related thing for Russia against other developed nation, especially with USA because Russia still got bullied for not reaching the moon first so this is like Vaccine race between the countries to make themselves as better in the health care system.

First to produce a vaccine isn't quite a Moon shot, but it's a serious accomplishment.

[tvbcof]

Excellent, it so happens that my country is in good relation with Putin. Should it come from USA or UK, we would not see a pint of it until next year, if ever. And Trump wouldn't allow export of it anyway.

China also has 3 vaccines in testing, but i guess Russia rushed it (first post lol), Putin went so far as to place his own daughter at risk...

And also it could be a proud related thing for Russia against other developed nation, especially with USA because Russia still got bullied for not reaching the moon first so this is like Vaccine race between the countries to make themselves as better in the health care system.

First to produce a vaccine isn't quite a Moon shot, but it's a serious accomplishment.

I developed a vaccine to make women have male children instead of female ones.  It's 50% effective!  OK, 'not quite a moonshot', but pretty dogon impressive if I do say so myself, and it looks like you would agree.

This stuff is snake oil.  Semi-insiders knew the plandemic was afoot and made bank which is why you see that almost any substance (hydroxycloroquine, vitamin C. etc, etc) 'cures' so-called 'covid-19'.

I'd certainly prefer the domestically oriented Rooshin vaccine though since there is not such a perceived nation-wide overpopulation problem in that country, and, unlike in America, individual peeps and bloated 'social' medical systems don't have the funds to make cancer such a big money maker for Big Pharma.

[samputin]

he seem to be guaranteeing its effectiveness that he said his daughters had been vaccinated.
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That's what I've heard from the news, too —that his daughter was one of the persons who have tried the vaccine. Maybe it is indeed effective since he risked his daughter's health for it. If that's that case, well then that's good news.

However, WHO is not that confident with Russia's achievement. And some experts here in our country also said that the vaccine still needs to undergo several clinical trials and tests. I don't know what our government's plan is knowing that Russia have already produced what they claim to be an effective vaccine for Covid-19. Guess I'll just stay tuned. And hope that it is indeed effective and the answer that we've all been waiting for.

[tvbcof]

he seem to be guaranteeing its effectiveness that he said his daughters had been vaccinated.
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That's what I've heard from the news, too —that his daughter was one of the persons who have tried the vaccine. Maybe it is indeed effective since he risked his daughter's health for it. If that's that case, well then that's good news.
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Insiders have a special technique for getting they and their families 'vaccinated'.  Here's a Queensland MP demonstrating on mainstream media:

  https://youtu.be/2sFI6aCjRdQ

[cabron]

he seem to be guaranteeing its effectiveness that he said his daughters had been vaccinated.
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That's what I've heard from the news, too —that his daughter was one of the persons who have tried the vaccine. Maybe it is indeed effective since he risked his daughter's health for it. If that's that case, well then that's good news.
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Insiders have a special technique for getting they and their families 'vaccinated'.  Here's a Queensland MP demonstrating on mainstream media:

  https://youtu.be/2sFI6aCjRdQ

The video was uploaded Apr 28, 2020. Ain't that a shit. If Russia had developed a vaccine why is this going to be a problem?

Let them have them claim and let all other countries claim if they have, the Japanese also claimed to have a vaccine. Its a matter of race who gets to have their own vaccine. If US can create one for themselves, there wouldn't be any revolution in youtube about that sinceits their right also. Testing it to other countries however might not be a good thing, they can do it to thier own people.

[Jet Cash]

The problem with testing these health damaging products is that we, the taxpayer, have to pay for the cripples it creates for the rest of their lives - which will be shorter than normal.

[Salauddin1994]

If Russia develops the Covid-19 vaccin is good news for the whole world will be very easy to prevent this virus and the whole world will be able to return to normal. The effects of the virus seem to have stopped the whole world Russia's goal was to bring vaccines to the forefront of the fight against epidemics. It is true that they have been able to overtake all the western countries and China since then in that process the process of preventive development and approval is done so quickly. That's why one of her daughters tested herself with a Russian-made Covid-19 vaccine and is now recovering she said the Russian-made vaccine is capable of showing lasting and sustainable immunity.

[BADecker]

Well, Gates gotta get his vaccines somewhere.     

[tvbcof]

Well, Gates gotta get his vaccines somewhere.    

The 'vaccine' is just a vehicle to get people ID'd and into the Certificate Of Vaccination IDentification system.  That's all that is needed for the cashless system.  

As such, the 'vaccine' doesn't actually need to do anything, and 'covid-19' is not really a particular disease.  The 'vaccination' exists for the Certificate Of Vaccination rather than for the other way around although 'covid-19' will be a handy way to divert attention from the effects of the 5G system as it is progressively activated.

Russia's adenovirus vaccine would be good enough for Gates' purposes.  Anything which will get the world's 'useless eaters' force-marched at gunpoint to the tagging stations will do.

[franky1]

the stupid thing is tvbcof thinks that governments are wanting to indocrinate people into a cashless society because he read somewhere that china done it

the stupid thing is
when tourists go to china they dont have to go through a lengthy registration process and doctors appointment when the get off the plane just to be able to buy a starbuck coffee

people in china do actually use paper cash that is not linked to a specific ID
even now tvbcof can be proved wrong by asking him to go to his local currency exchange place and ask for chinese currency
and guess what, no injections, no requirement of any chinese ID or authorisation letters he will just be handed chinese currency

..
guess what else
in the 1990's the 'word documents' were going paperless because of computing.. but wait.. we still have paper documents

'going paperless' is not being 100% non paper
it means 'going from 100% paper to a mix where there is less paper"

i seriously cant believe people actually think that china is 100% cashless

[tvbcof]

the stupid thing is tvbcof things that governments are wanting to indocrinate people into a cashless society because he read somewhere that china done it

the stupid thing is
when tourists go to china they dont have to go through a lengthy registration process and doctors appointment when the get off the plane just to be able to buy a starbuck coffee

people in china do actually use cash that is not linked to a specific ID
even now tvbcof can be proved wrong by asking him to go to his local currency exchange place and ask for chinese currency
and guess what, no injections, no requirement of any chinses ID or authorisation letters he wil just be handed chinese currency

"That's all that is needed for the cashless system."  -->  "That's all that is needed for the global cashless system."

My bad on not being more clear and I'll apologize for making you waste your time on your now-nullified screed.

Chinese under their totalitarian so-called 'communist' system are already pretty well tagged as part of the surveillance grid and social credit score system.  The Chinese are just the test-bed for the globalist technocratic social management model.  They have never know 'freedom' per-se and a fair number of them are highly uncomfortable with the concept such is the power of millennia of cultural baggage and several generations of modern state-sponsored brainwashing from an early age.  The system they've been guinea-pigs for is ready to roll out world-wide now.  Here we go my friends.

[franky1]

^ and there he goes blabbering about how china is already indocrinated again
i dont think tvbcof has ever even got on a plane to visit any country to which he has read conspiracies about

also china has moved away from communist practices a couple decades ago. they are moving towards capitalism now

[tvbcof]

^ and there he goes blabbering about how china is already indocrinated again
i dont think tvbcof has ever even got on a plane to visit any country to which he has read conspiracies about

also china has moved away from communist practices a couple decades ago. they are moving towards capitalism now

I worked in Beijing for a while trying to train people to do my job so I could move on.  Tokyo and Bangalore likewise although in both of those cases it was more of a short visit than was my experience in China.

[royalfestus]

I would trust a word coming from Putin's mouth. Trusting Russians is just plain stupid.  These people say one thing, think another and do yet another, all while being half drunk.  Most are moral and ethical degenerates.

They can have it.

would you trust Trump more than Putin? with all those misleading information about Corvid. We might be skeptical with diverse standard with respect to health but Russia is as well detail like USA. Sadly if the vaccine fails in Russia we may not know and if it succeeds some developed countries might find it like failing the competition. I felt we need a quicker measure to restore the economy and the proposed 2021 USA vaccines looks far for the pending crisis.

[electronicash]

the stupid thing is tvbcof things that governments are wanting to indocrinate people into a cashless society because he read somewhere that china done it

the stupid thing is
when tourists go to china they dont have to go through a lengthy registration process and doctors appointment when the get off the plane just to be able to buy a starbuck coffee

people in china do actually use cash that is not linked to a specific ID
even now tvbcof can be proved wrong by asking him to go to his local currency exchange place and ask for chinese currency
and guess what, no injections, no requirement of any chinses ID or authorisation letters he wil just be handed chinese currency

"That's all that is needed for the cashless system."  -->  "That's all that is needed for the global cashless system."

My bad on not being more clear and I'll apologize for making you waste your time on your now-nullified screed.

Chinese under their totalitarian so-called 'communist' system are already pretty well tagged as part of the surveillance grid and social credit score system.  The Chinese are just the test-bed for the globalist technocratic social management model.  They have never know 'freedom' per-se and a fair number of them are highly uncomfortable with the concept such is the power of millennia of cultural baggage and several generations of modern state-sponsored brainwashing from an early age.  The system they've been guinea-pigs for is ready to roll out world-wide now.  Here we go my friends.

whatever they are doing there seem to be working good. anyone should be able to see that since they have rise from the ashes. whether its a draconian system or not, its just that they can achieve things. developed vaccine as quick as possible.

Putin may not be trusted in the media but Russians I believe liked him otherwise they would have revolt and ousted him already. its the media outside Russia that just misrepresented him.

[tvbcof]

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Chinese under their totalitarian so-called 'communist' system are already pretty well tagged as part of the surveillance grid and social credit score system.  The Chinese are just the test-bed for the globalist technocratic social management model.  They have never know 'freedom' per-se and a fair number of them are highly uncomfortable with the concept such is the power of millennia of cultural baggage and several generations of modern state-sponsored brainwashing from an early age.  The system they've been guinea-pigs for is ready to roll out world-wide now.  Here we go my friends.

whatever they are doing there seem to be working good. anyone should be able to see that since they have rise from the ashes. whether its a draconian system or not, its just that they can achieve things. developed vaccine as quick as possible.

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The Globalists decided to shift over to parasitizing China after 'the great reset' and have spent the last half century wringing all of the wealth out of the West and transferring their operations to China.  These transfers are the ONLY reason China is where it is today in my analysis, and being an ant in that particular ant-farm sucks donkey balls with all the servailance and social engineering.  When the time is right they globalists will 'pull it' and the West will crumble into it's own footprint.  'Covid-19' is the analog of the conventional thermite charge sawing through some of the core columns.

'Communism' is only possible when debt-based-money 'Capitalists' (from Engles on down) decide it is right for a particular country,  It is just a tool that they use.  Private property and resources are taken 'for the collective' instead of purchased which saves money.  After 'collectivism' takes economy and society into the abyss, they can flip the page into 'reset' where, wearing their 'Oligarch' hats, they re-claim the property and resources for themselves.  That was they lifecycle of the Soviet Union.  China too really.  The difference was that the Globalists realized that China would be a good surfboard to replace the United States when the time came.

If, as I believe, the quality of life improvements that the average Chinese has realized come as a gift from Globalists and their 'technology transfers' and what-not, this is obviously not sustainable.  The inflection point will be sharp when the Western 'wealth pool' has been sucked dry and imploded.  Then they are just extraordinarily well monitored serfs under complete control of the Globalists technocracy.  Even more so than today.

[franky1]

seems tvbcof is stuck in the 1940s

soviet russia(communist) ended decades ago.. russia is now capitalist

china in the 1920's was the Qing dynasty which wasnt communist. but became somewhat communist there after.. although in the 40's+ some area's retained the autonomy

but in the last decade although still 'branded' communist they are actually more capitalist
..
the issue is that although chinese people can buy property for renting/sub-leasing/changing of use.. outsiders cannot. so the outsiders then demonise them as communist by not letting outsiders buy land for profit

funny part is. this sole feature is something the western capitalists want for their own country to stop foreigners from buying their land.
..
but getting back to the topic
this outdated mindset that russia is still 'soviet' and 'communist' makes western media portray their phase 3 trial of a few thousands doctors and teachers. as being a 'mass inoculation campaign' where they try to make 'mass' then falsely sound like 'millions'

russia completed phase 2 (UK/US hasnt)
russia hasnt even got millions of doses(UK has/US is getting there)

so in actual reality it is UK/US that is skipping more steps

(it needs repeating as some idiots above seem ignorant of facts and more interested in outdated propaganda)

[xenon131]

The problem is  not to develop vaccine but to develop such one that would  not harm the body.  It  took almost 5 years to develop vaccine against Ebola. I don't think  Russia has manage to develop the good  stuff against COVID on such a reduced timeline.

The problem with testing these health damaging products is that we, the taxpayer, have to pay for the cripples it creates for the rest of their lives - which will be shorter than normal.

but who knows what is normal? Thanks to children immunized against smallpox the humankind  has a long and successful health record relevant to that illness in the past and current centuries. Are you sure you would exist without that?

[BADecker]

The problem is  not to develop vaccine but to develop such one that would  not harm the body.  It  took almost 5 years to develop vaccine against Ebola. I don't think  Russia has manage to develop the good  stuff against COVID on such a reduced timeline.

The problem with testing these health damaging products is that we, the taxpayer, have to pay for the cripples it creates for the rest of their lives - which will be shorter than normal.

but who knows what is normal? Thanks to children immunized against smallpox the humankind  has a long and successful health record relevant to that illness in the past and current centuries. Are you sure you would exist without that?

Except, of course, if it was only timing, and the vaccinations had nothing to do with it, and smallpox was in its final stages anyway, and Big Pharma only took advantage of what they knew was coming... smallpox going away naturally.

[Sendoku]

At this point Putin can just put out whatever BS he wants using the image we all in some way endowed him with and this BS will be seriously discussed. This guy is by no means a fooll but definitely slowly gets into lunatic zone

[BADecker]

At this point Putin can just put out whatever BS he wants using the image we all in some way endowed him with and this BS will be seriously discussed. This guy is by no means a fooll but definitely slowly gets into lunatic zone

Like you say, he is no fool. But the lunatic part is only what he sounds like sometimes.

If they really developed a vaccine, who cares? Vitamin-C + zinc sulfate + vitamin D3 cures/controls Covid - or hydroxychloroquine + zinc sulfate. Putin's talk is simply trying to get us to realize that vaccines are a stupid idea that won't work, and that we have the cure already.

[xenon131]

The problem is  not to develop vaccine but to develop such one that would  not harm the body.  It  took almost 5 years to develop vaccine against Ebola. I don't think  Russia has manage to develop the good  stuff against COVID on such a reduced timeline.

The problem with testing these health damaging products is that we, the taxpayer, have to pay for the cripples it creates for the rest of their lives - which will be shorter than normal.

but who knows what is normal? Thanks to children immunized against smallpox the humankind  has a long and successful health record relevant to that illness in the past and current centuries. Are you sure you would exist without that?

Except, of course, if it was only timing, and the vaccinations had nothing to do with it, and smallpox was in its final stages anyway, and Big Pharma only took advantage of what they knew was coming... smallpox going away naturally.

Not correct, vaccination against smallpox began as early as in 17th century. There was neither Big nor Small Pharma at that time. Doctors used variolation -"process by which material from smallpox sores (pustules) was given to people who had never had smallpox". Learn the history.

[tvbcof]

Not correct, vaccination against smallpox began as early as in 17th century. There was neither Big nor Small Pharma at that time. Doctors used variolation -"process by which material from smallpox sores (pustules) was given to people who had never had smallpox". Learn the history.

This and HCG for TB are the only two technologies I agree with after the years of research that I've done.  Part of the equation is that smallpox and tuberculosis are actually serious diseases that a person really does not want to get.  Unlike Chickenpox, mumps, measeles, etc which I would rather have gotten in an age appropriate way and thus achieve life-long immunity than not.

I put some effort into getting my daughter the old-school smallpox but decided that it was impossible.  I had it as a kid, and I probably got some more doeses in the military (along with bubonic plague.)  The reason I wanted to get some protection for my daughter is because smallpox could be what Bill and Melinda have planned for 'the next one.'

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3AEuRV2Ytc

There has been a fair bit of predictive programming about smallpox over the years, but it seems like it's withered on the vine a bit lately.  The U.S. maintains vast stockpiles of smallpox vaccine.  But since we've rolled around to the U.S. being probably up next on the chopping block, that argues against use of smallpox for phase-II.  'They' have hundreds of other equally good options though I'm sure.

[Naida_BR]

If Russia develops the Covid-19 vaccin is good news for the whole world will be very easy to prevent this virus and the whole world will be able to return to normal. The effects of the virus seem to have stopped the whole world Russia's goal was to bring vaccines to the forefront of the fight against epidemics. It is true that they have been able to overtake all the western countries and China since then in that process the process of preventive development and approval is done so quickly. That's why one of her daughters tested herself with a Russian-made Covid-19 vaccine and is now recovering she said the Russian-made vaccine is capable of showing lasting and sustainable immunity.

The US is not going to accept that Russia has the vaccine.
You know, it is all about money. There are a lot of pharmaceutical companies that are US-based that have invested a lot of money in the vaccine production and they expect to get those money back. The US will get this money for them and they will not give them to Russia.

[Jet Cash]

You know, it is all about money. There are a lot of pharmaceutical companies that are US-based

I agree that it is mainly about money, but it is also about population control.

The Pharma companies are supra national, and this means they are above the US. In fact their finances are closer to the City of London, than the US. Much of the Corona virus research was done in the Wuhan labs, and funded by Fauci. They probably control the Russian virus development as well. It is difficult to understand their motives in allowing this vaccine to be released so early. Maybe they want it to fail, and persuade people that they need to use a "safer" one of their choosing. However, with any luck the failure of the Russian vaccine will turn people away from artificial control of their immune system, and lead to a revival in natural immunity.

[elisabetheva]

the thing that cannot be avoided is that time is pursued when the need for vaccines is very much needed, even though there may not be clinical trials yet, but we also cannot blame because we need a vaccine to accelerate. but indeed the testing protocol must be put forward because it will be a big risk.

Several countries have claimed to have found a vaccine but they have not dared to publish it like Russia did, we don't know why there is a very significant difference, whether because there are other things that we also don't know.

Our hope is that there will be drugs and vaccines soon, because they are needed.

[BADecker]

The problem is  not to develop vaccine but to develop such one that would  not harm the body.  It  took almost 5 years to develop vaccine against Ebola. I don't think  Russia has manage to develop the good  stuff against COVID on such a reduced timeline.

The problem with testing these health damaging products is that we, the taxpayer, have to pay for the cripples it creates for the rest of their lives - which will be shorter than normal.

but who knows what is normal? Thanks to children immunized against smallpox the humankind  has a long and successful health record relevant to that illness in the past and current centuries. Are you sure you would exist without that?

Except, of course, if it was only timing, and the vaccinations had nothing to do with it, and smallpox was in its final stages anyway, and Big Pharma only took advantage of what they knew was coming... smallpox going away naturally.

Not correct, vaccination against smallpox began as early as in 17th century. There was neither Big nor Small Pharma at that time. Doctors used variolation -"process by which material from smallpox sores (pustules) was given to people who had never had smallpox". Learn the history.

You never heard of alchemy? What do you think the early stages of Big Pharma were? Before something gets big, it is small. Mesmerism and hypnotism have been around forever. The alchemists simply made it stick this time, through good timing, shrewd alchemy, and playing on the simple-mindedness of the people.

[BADecker]

the thing that cannot be avoided is that time is pursued when the need for vaccines is very much needed, even though there may not be clinical trials yet, but we also cannot blame because we need a vaccine to accelerate. but indeed the testing protocol must be put forward because it will be a big risk.

Several countries have claimed to have found a vaccine but they have not dared to publish it like Russia did, we don't know why there is a very significant difference, whether because there are other things that we also don't know.

Our hope is that there will be drugs and vaccines soon, because they are needed.

This is thinking that is a bit ignorant. Why? Because there are clinical trials and real-world usage that shows that hydroxychloroquine is saving lives around the world in 3rd world countries. Why there? Because it works. Why not in the USA and Europe? Because Big Pharma wants to make money off vaccines. So, they don't promote what works.

[gmakaveli]

I sipmly don't believe it. Putin is putting out loads of BS and we just eat it up

[Mauser]

the thing that cannot be avoided is that time is pursued when the need for vaccines is very much needed, even though there may not be clinical trials yet, but we also cannot blame because we need a vaccine to accelerate. but indeed the testing protocol must be put forward because it will be a big risk.

Several countries have claimed to have found a vaccine but they have not dared to publish it like Russia did, we don't know why there is a very significant difference, whether because there are other things that we also don't know.

Our hope is that there will be drugs and vaccines soon, because they are needed.

Apparently now Russia even wants to supply Pakistan with 1 million vaccines. So far I didn't read anything about the success rate of the vaccine and if you really become immune afterwards. This might just be a big media campaign.

https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/fact-check-has-russia-gifted-1-million-doses-of-covid-vaccine-to-pakistan-1712655-2020-08-18

[Chrystora123]

The Gamaleya Research Institute, part of Russia’s Ministry of Health, launched a Phase 1 trial in June of a vaccine they called Gam-Covid-Vac Lyo. It is a combination of two adenoviruses, Ad5 and Ad26, both engineered with a coronavirus gene. In July, the chair of the upper house of Russia’s Parliament announced the country might start vaccine production by the end of the year. On Aug. 11, President Vladimir V. Putin announced that a Russian health care regulator had approved the vaccine, renamed Sputnik V, before Phase 3 trials had even begun. Vaccine experts decried the move as risky. Nevertheless, Tass reported, Vietnam soon agreed to purchase 50 to 150 million doses.

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..

[akram143]

The Gamaleya Research Institute, part of Russia’s Ministry of Health, launched a Phase 1 trial in June of a vaccine they called Gam-Covid-Vac Lyo. It is a combination of two adenoviruses, Ad5 and Ad26, both engineered with a coronavirus gene. In July, the chair of the upper house of Russia’s Parliament announced the country might start vaccine production by the end of the year. On Aug. 11, President Vladimir V. Putin announced that a Russian health care regulator had approved the vaccine, renamed Sputnik V, before Phase 3 trials had even begun. Vaccine experts decried the move as risky. Nevertheless, Tass reported, Vietnam soon agreed to purchase 50 to 150 million doses.

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

Is there any new update about the vaccine? Mass productions has started already?

[jossiel]

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

Is there any new update about the vaccine? Mass productions has started already?

AFAIK, not yet.

They'll go through the process and will still go through phase 3.

[franky1]

Apparently now Russia even wants to supply Pakistan with 1 million vaccines. So far I didn't read anything about the success rate of the vaccine and if you really become immune afterwards. This might just be a big media campaign.

apparently AGES AGO US/UK started mass producing hundreds of millions of supplies even before they actually passed phase 2(uk/us skipped steps)

but its ok because what you need to learn is EVERY country is going to mass produce large amounts before phase 3 so that if it passes phase 3 all they have to do is deliver it
(save a few months)

russia might have trade deals with the philippines and pakistan but that does not mean they are going to start vaccinating general public until phase 3 completes
because russia hasnt even made millions of doses yet

do expect vaccine manufacturers to prepare millions of doses ready
do expect vaccine manufacturers to trash those supplies if it doesnt pass phase 3
dont expect results from phase 3 this year
dont expect delivery of doses until phase 3 passes

by having phase 3 results in maybe january, they can see that alongside questioning and surveying the phase 2 people which would have had 6-9 months, along with the phase 3 three months. to then get a better idea of any notable reactions.

[akram143]

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

[fortunecrypto]

When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718

I think the Russian rush it, very similar words Russians and Rush it, if they think they are effective and they have done the right process in their own way, then they can try it first on their own, there are negative feedbacks on their claims because clinical trial needs a lot of time and process, I prefer doing everything I can do avoid getting infected than get a vaccine create hurriedly by the Russian.

[cabron]

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

They can inject it to their own people which is its own risk. There is no report yet of side effects though so if ever the vaccine help them solve the corona virus crisis then they'd be the next to China. I wouldn't mind taking the risk if I see no deaths from the people vaccinated.

WHO will take this process very long but the people needs the urgent solution because we want to go back to the streets and help the economy to stand up again.

[akram143]

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

They can inject it to their own people which is its own risk. There is no report yet of side effects though so if ever the vaccine help them solve the corona virus crisis then they'd be the next to China. I wouldn't mind taking the risk if I see no deaths from the people vaccinated.

WHO will take this process very long but the people needs the urgent solution because we want to go back to the streets and help the economy to stand up again.

But the government needs to approve a vaccine  if they are going to import vaccine from other countries and it varies from countries to countries.In India they will conduct the trials on our own people even if it is successful in other countries to know the side effects of Indian region people.

[virasog]

The Gamaleya Research Institute, part of Russia’s Ministry of Health, launched a Phase 1 trial in June of a vaccine they called Gam-Covid-Vac Lyo. It is a combination of two adenoviruses, Ad5 and Ad26, both engineered with a coronavirus gene. In July, the chair of the upper house of Russia’s Parliament announced the country might start vaccine production by the end of the year. On Aug. 11, President Vladimir V. Putin announced that a Russian health care regulator had approved the vaccine, renamed Sputnik V, before Phase 3 trials had even begun. Vaccine experts decried the move as risky. Nevertheless, Tass reported, Vietnam soon agreed to purchase 50 to 150 million doses.

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..

There are many forces in the world who do not want Russia vaccine to be introduced in the world and there are some powerful groups which do not want any vaccine to be developed for covid19 as they have their own agenda. The matter of vaccine is not as simple as it seems.   

[jossiel]

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.

[akram143]

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.

Why they have to report it to the WHO? WHO is not going to create a vaccine they are just here for nothing and RUSSIA continuously reported everything through media but may not be much transparent in what they are said and this happens with every government as well because in this vaccine race every government wants to win.

[lepbagong]

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.

Why they have to report it to the WHO? WHO is not going to create a vaccine they are just here for nothing and RUSSIA continuously reported everything through media but may not be much transparent in what they are said and this happens with every government as well because in this vaccine race every government wants to win.

in fact, the rules of the world may oblige every discovery that for the benefit of the world, there is a need for regulation to WHO so that what is claimed can be accounted for. But I really appreciate the Russians government dare to take policies because we are indeed being chased by time that cannot be too long with the rules made.
I hope it is true that what is found in Russia can be used immediately because many need immediately.

[Jet Cash]

The last thing we need is a crappy untested vaccine against a minor virus that hasn't killed any healthy person so far. These crippling vaccines are far more of a threat than natural viruses that we can gain fairly fast immunity if we have a sensible health policy.

[franky1]

The last thing we need is a crappy untested vaccine against a minor virus that hasn't killed any healthy person so far. These crippling vaccines are far more of a threat than natural viruses that we can gain fairly fast immunity if we have a sensible health policy.

it has killed many thousands of people with no pre-existing conditions
you ignorant man

the risk factor for vaccines are like 1 in a million having a rash on their arm
the virus KILLS more than 1 in a million
atleast get your facts right

and last point the vaccines are being tested. thats why there was no general population vaccination option in april. because they have been testing it for the last 5 months

i can guarantee you this fact
there will not be officers with guns knocking on doors forcing people to get vaccinated
there will not be doctors knocking on doors forcing people to get vaccinated

try to live in the real world of reality and not the fake world of the stupid conspiracies you read

[jossiel]

Why they have to report it to the WHO? WHO is not going to create a vaccine they are just here for nothing and RUSSIA continuously reported everything through media but may not be much transparent in what they are said and this happens with every government as well because in this vaccine race every government wants to win.

The meaning of the organization tells it.

We are in the pandemic and they are the governing body giving information from one country to another country. If they don't have to report to WHO, they don't have to report that they were already in the most recent phase.

Media is media and WHO is WHO.

It is true that the reason could be the race and that's why they didn't have told it earlier. We still got no updates.

[BADecker]

Russia simply wants to be first. It's a gamble.

Often the first guy to invent something is the guy who gets control of it in the world. That's what patents are all about.

Who cares if the vaccine is dangerous or not. We had it first, so we get the big prize. If we don't get the prize, oh well. It was a gamble, and we might lose a little.

But if we win, it will be worth billions.

[BADecker]

The Russian vaccine - indeed every vaccine - are totally unnecessary regarding Covid. Why? Because the Covid-only death count is so small that we need protection from the other things way more. At least that's what the CDC says.


CDC Bombshell: Only Six Percent Of "Covid Deaths" From Only Covid!

The rest - a vast majority - had on average 2.6 serious additional diseases, with the addition in most cases of extreme advanced age. Is it time to begin litigating the damage done to the US and the world from the lockdown policies? Also today: the "largest protest in German history" over the weekend, as estimated millions turned out to oppose mandatory masks and lockdowns. Similar protests took place in London and in Spain. In the US...mostly silence.

[squatz1]

Just as a little update to all of this, Russia is continuing its campaign to hate the West with the following news report that was put out yesterday in Reuters.

A Russian official is saying that the Western world (in this case Britian, USA, and the rest of Europe) is now following their example and approving drugs before they've been fully tested. While I don't fully agree with his statements, as the US (FDA) and the British equivalent is only letting their vaccines go through IF they are shown to be safe and such, even if they're being fast tracked. Seems like Russia isn't following this same approach though, doubt that their vaccine is going to work at all.

They even named the thing Sputnik, an obvious jab at the US. Like what the fuck?

[Oshosondy]

I am not ready to receive any vaccine, the virus has really died down in my country, I wish it is just going like that. With this, I do not believe in any vaccine now. Our prevention has helped, with time the virus will go, that is just it. This vaccine is new, I can not take anything that can affect me later in life or that will after my offsprings or the generations to come. Our generation is becoming more prone to disease maybe because of modern days time and their ignorance about what they are developing in modern days.

[BADecker]

I am not ready to receive any vaccine, the virus has really died down in my country, I wish it is just going like that. With this, I do not believe in any vaccine now. Our prevention has helped, with time the virus will go, that is just it. This vaccine is new, I can not take anything that can affect me later in life or that will after my offsprings or the generations to come. Our generation is becoming more prone to disease maybe because of modern days time and their ignorance about what they are developing in modern days.

That's all good and wonderful. But when they come to stab you, with a bunch of cops along for enforcement, what will you tell them legally so that they stop?

Read this one page http://voidjudgments.com/ to understand what they are required to do in court. Then go here - https://www.youtube.com/c/CraigLynch/videos - to understand how it is put into practice.

Start moving if you are in the States or Britain. Learn now before it's too late.

[proscratcher]

The Oxford Vaccine is looking very promising and is in stage 3 trials at the moment with over 30,000 volunteers.

I understand people's concerns about 'rushed' vaccines. But, the oxford vaccine is not in that position. It's an adjusted version of a vaccine developed to tackle the original SARS. Development was stopped as that outbreak was squashed. No shortcuts are being taken and stage 3 trials are part of the normal vaccine development schedule.

[elisabetheva]

in a situation that is still uncertain this is the best news that can make at least one hope that will solve the problem. for me there is no business how people say about covid-19 and I don't want to be trapped by the politicization of covid-19 which continues to grow . at this time it is clear that drugs and vaccines are needed if Russia has stated they have found it and some say there are no rules yet Russia has been through for me, there must be an appreciation from Russia to be able to appear bold enough to say about their vaccine. Legalization arrangements can be taken care of while on the move even though they do not rule out the rules, because time is running out and the fact that Covid-19 has not yet subsided.

[Saisher]

Russia simply wants to be first. It's a gamble.

Often the first guy to invent something is the guy who gets control of it in the world. That's what patents are all about.

Who cares if the vaccine is dangerous or not. We had it first, so we get the big prize. If we don't get the prize, oh well. It was a gamble, and we might lose a little.

But if we win, it will be worth billions.

You have a point it's a big gamble for the Russian government and their scientist as well, they will either lose their reputation or recognized as the first to create an effective vaccine our country is collaborating with the Russian government, Russian has no bad reputation when it comes to medicine breakthrough, this is something that might get government to believe them, I hope their vaccine is really effective.