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August 18, 2020, 04:14:58 PM
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The problem is  not to develop vaccine but to develop such one that would  not harm the body.  It  took almost 5 years to develop vaccine against Ebola. I don't think  Russia has manage to develop the good  stuff against COVID on such a reduced timeline.

The problem with testing these health damaging products is that we, the taxpayer, have to pay for the cripples it creates for the rest of their lives - which will be shorter than normal.

but who knows what is normal? Thanks to children immunized against smallpox the humankind  has a long and successful health record relevant to that illness in the past and current centuries. Are you sure you would exist without that?

Except, of course, if it was only timing, and the vaccinations had nothing to do with it, and smallpox was in its final stages anyway, and Big Pharma only took advantage of what they knew was coming... smallpox going away naturally.

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Not correct, vaccination against smallpox began as early as in 17th century. There was neither Big nor Small Pharma at that time. Doctors used variolation -"process by which material from smallpox sores (pustules) was given to people who had never had smallpox". Learn the history.

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August 18, 2020, 04:34:25 PM
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Not correct, vaccination against smallpox began as early as in 17th century. There was neither Big nor Small Pharma at that time. Doctors used variolation -"process by which material from smallpox sores (pustules) was given to people who had never had smallpox". Learn the history.

This and HCG for TB are the only two technologies I agree with after the years of research that I've done.  Part of the equation is that smallpox and tuberculosis are actually serious diseases that a person really does not want to get.  Unlike Chickenpox, mumps, measeles, etc which I would rather have gotten in an age appropriate way and thus achieve life-long immunity than not.

I put some effort into getting my daughter the old-school smallpox but decided that it was impossible.  I had it as a kid, and I probably got some more doeses in the military (along with bubonic plague.)  The reason I wanted to get some protection for my daughter is because smallpox could be what Bill and Melinda have planned for 'the next one.'

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3AEuRV2Ytc

There has been a fair bit of predictive programming about smallpox over the years, but it seems like it's withered on the vine a bit lately.  The U.S. maintains vast stockpiles of smallpox vaccine.  But since we've rolled around to the U.S. being probably up next on the chopping block, that argues against use of smallpox for phase-II.  'They' have hundreds of other equally good options though I'm sure.


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August 19, 2020, 08:56:05 AM
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If Russia develops the Covid-19 vaccin is good news for the whole world will be very easy to prevent this virus and the whole world will be able to return to normal. The effects of the virus seem to have stopped the whole world Russia's goal was to bring vaccines to the forefront of the fight against epidemics. It is true that they have been able to overtake all the western countries and China since then in that process the process of preventive development and approval is done so quickly. That's why one of her daughters tested herself with a Russian-made Covid-19 vaccine and is now recovering she said the Russian-made vaccine is capable of showing lasting and sustainable immunity.

The US is not going to accept that Russia has the vaccine.
You know, it is all about money. There are a lot of pharmaceutical companies that are US-based that have invested a lot of money in the vaccine production and they expect to get those money back. The US will get this money for them and they will not give them to Russia.
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August 19, 2020, 09:07:01 AM
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You know, it is all about money. There are a lot of pharmaceutical companies that are US-based

I agree that it is mainly about money, but it is also about population control.

The Pharma companies are supra national, and this means they are above the US. In fact their finances are closer to the City of London, than the US. Much of the Corona virus research was done in the Wuhan labs, and funded by Fauci. They probably control the Russian virus development as well. It is difficult to understand their motives in allowing this vaccine to be released so early. Maybe they want it to fail, and persuade people that they need to use a "safer" one of their choosing. However, with any luck the failure of the Russian vaccine will turn people away from artificial control of their immune system, and lead to a revival in natural immunity.

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August 21, 2020, 09:26:51 AM
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the thing that cannot be avoided is that time is pursued when the need for vaccines is very much needed, even though there may not be clinical trials yet, but we also cannot blame because we need a vaccine to accelerate. but indeed the testing protocol must be put forward because it will be a big risk.

Several countries have claimed to have found a vaccine but they have not dared to publish it like Russia did, we don't know why there is a very significant difference, whether because there are other things that we also don't know.

Our hope is that there will be drugs and vaccines soon, because they are needed.
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August 21, 2020, 03:05:58 PM
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The problem is  not to develop vaccine but to develop such one that would  not harm the body.  It  took almost 5 years to develop vaccine against Ebola. I don't think  Russia has manage to develop the good  stuff against COVID on such a reduced timeline.

The problem with testing these health damaging products is that we, the taxpayer, have to pay for the cripples it creates for the rest of their lives - which will be shorter than normal.

but who knows what is normal? Thanks to children immunized against smallpox the humankind  has a long and successful health record relevant to that illness in the past and current centuries. Are you sure you would exist without that?

Except, of course, if it was only timing, and the vaccinations had nothing to do with it, and smallpox was in its final stages anyway, and Big Pharma only took advantage of what they knew was coming... smallpox going away naturally.

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Not correct, vaccination against smallpox began as early as in 17th century. There was neither Big nor Small Pharma at that time. Doctors used variolation -"process by which material from smallpox sores (pustules) was given to people who had never had smallpox". Learn the history.

You never heard of alchemy? What do you think the early stages of Big Pharma were? Before something gets big, it is small. Mesmerism and hypnotism have been around forever. The alchemists simply made it stick this time, through good timing, shrewd alchemy, and playing on the simple-mindedness of the people.

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August 21, 2020, 03:09:05 PM
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the thing that cannot be avoided is that time is pursued when the need for vaccines is very much needed, even though there may not be clinical trials yet, but we also cannot blame because we need a vaccine to accelerate. but indeed the testing protocol must be put forward because it will be a big risk.

Several countries have claimed to have found a vaccine but they have not dared to publish it like Russia did, we don't know why there is a very significant difference, whether because there are other things that we also don't know.

Our hope is that there will be drugs and vaccines soon, because they are needed.

This is thinking that is a bit ignorant. Why? Because there are clinical trials and real-world usage that shows that hydroxychloroquine is saving lives around the world in 3rd world countries. Why there? Because it works. Why not in the USA and Europe? Because Big Pharma wants to make money off vaccines. So, they don't promote what works.

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August 22, 2020, 03:08:39 PM
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I sipmly don't believe it. Putin is putting out loads of BS and we just eat it up
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August 22, 2020, 04:36:09 PM
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the thing that cannot be avoided is that time is pursued when the need for vaccines is very much needed, even though there may not be clinical trials yet, but we also cannot blame because we need a vaccine to accelerate. but indeed the testing protocol must be put forward because it will be a big risk.

Several countries have claimed to have found a vaccine but they have not dared to publish it like Russia did, we don't know why there is a very significant difference, whether because there are other things that we also don't know.

Our hope is that there will be drugs and vaccines soon, because they are needed.

Apparently now Russia even wants to supply Pakistan with 1 million vaccines. So far I didn't read anything about the success rate of the vaccine and if you really become immune afterwards. This might just be a big media campaign.

https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/fact-check-has-russia-gifted-1-million-doses-of-covid-vaccine-to-pakistan-1712655-2020-08-18
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August 22, 2020, 07:06:59 PM
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The Gamaleya Research Institute, part of Russia’s Ministry of Health, launched a Phase 1 trial in June of a vaccine they called Gam-Covid-Vac Lyo. It is a combination of two adenoviruses, Ad5 and Ad26, both engineered with a coronavirus gene. In July, the chair of the upper house of Russia’s Parliament announced the country might start vaccine production by the end of the year. On Aug. 11, President Vladimir V. Putin announced that a Russian health care regulator had approved the vaccine, renamed Sputnik V, before Phase 3 trials had even begun. Vaccine experts decried the move as risky. Nevertheless, Tass reported, Vietnam soon agreed to purchase 50 to 150 million doses.

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..

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August 22, 2020, 08:31:39 PM
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The Gamaleya Research Institute, part of Russia’s Ministry of Health, launched a Phase 1 trial in June of a vaccine they called Gam-Covid-Vac Lyo. It is a combination of two adenoviruses, Ad5 and Ad26, both engineered with a coronavirus gene. In July, the chair of the upper house of Russia’s Parliament announced the country might start vaccine production by the end of the year. On Aug. 11, President Vladimir V. Putin announced that a Russian health care regulator had approved the vaccine, renamed Sputnik V, before Phase 3 trials had even begun. Vaccine experts decried the move as risky. Nevertheless, Tass reported, Vietnam soon agreed to purchase 50 to 150 million doses.

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..
AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

Is there any new update about the vaccine? Mass productions has started already?

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August 22, 2020, 09:51:46 PM
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AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.
From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

Is there any new update about the vaccine? Mass productions has started already?
AFAIK, not yet.

They'll go through the process and will still go through phase 3.

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August 23, 2020, 01:33:12 AM
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Apparently now Russia even wants to supply Pakistan with 1 million vaccines. So far I didn't read anything about the success rate of the vaccine and if you really become immune afterwards. This might just be a big media campaign.

apparently AGES AGO US/UK started mass producing hundreds of millions of supplies even before they actually passed phase 2(uk/us skipped steps)

but its ok because what you need to learn is EVERY country is going to mass produce large amounts before phase 3 so that if it passes phase 3 all they have to do is deliver it
(save a few months)

russia might have trade deals with the philippines and pakistan but that does not mean they are going to start vaccinating general public until phase 3 completes
because russia hasnt even made millions of doses yet

do expect vaccine manufacturers to prepare millions of doses ready
do expect vaccine manufacturers to trash those supplies if it doesnt pass phase 3
dont expect results from phase 3 this year
dont expect delivery of doses until phase 3 passes

by having phase 3 results in maybe january, they can see that alongside questioning and surveying the phase 2 people which would have had 6-9 months, along with the phase 3 three months. to then get a better idea of any notable reactions.

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August 23, 2020, 06:05:28 AM
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AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.
From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.
There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

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When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718


I think the Russian rush it, very similar words Russians and Rush it, if they think they are effective and they have done the right process in their own way, then they can try it first on their own, there are negative feedbacks on their claims because clinical trial needs a lot of time and process, I prefer doing everything I can do avoid getting infected than get a vaccine create hurriedly by the Russian.

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August 23, 2020, 06:53:55 AM
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AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.
From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.
There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

They can inject it to their own people which is its own risk. There is no report yet of side effects though so if ever the vaccine help them solve the corona virus crisis then they'd be the next to China. I wouldn't mind taking the risk if I see no deaths from the people vaccinated.

WHO will take this process very long but the people needs the urgent solution because we want to go back to the streets and help the economy to stand up again.

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AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.
From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.
There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

They can inject it to their own people which is its own risk. There is no report yet of side effects though so if ever the vaccine help them solve the corona virus crisis then they'd be the next to China. I wouldn't mind taking the risk if I see no deaths from the people vaccinated.

WHO will take this process very long but the people needs the urgent solution because we want to go back to the streets and help the economy to stand up again.
But the government needs to approve a vaccine  if they are going to import vaccine from other countries and it varies from countries to countries.In India they will conduct the trials on our own people even if it is successful in other countries to know the side effects of Indian region people.

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The Gamaleya Research Institute, part of Russia’s Ministry of Health, launched a Phase 1 trial in June of a vaccine they called Gam-Covid-Vac Lyo. It is a combination of two adenoviruses, Ad5 and Ad26, both engineered with a coronavirus gene. In July, the chair of the upper house of Russia’s Parliament announced the country might start vaccine production by the end of the year. On Aug. 11, President Vladimir V. Putin announced that a Russian health care regulator had approved the vaccine, renamed Sputnik V, before Phase 3 trials had even begun. Vaccine experts decried the move as risky. Nevertheless, Tass reported, Vietnam soon agreed to purchase 50 to 150 million doses.

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..

There are many forces in the world who do not want Russia vaccine to be introduced in the world and there are some powerful groups which do not want any vaccine to be developed for covid19 as they have their own agenda. The matter of vaccine is not as simple as it seems.   

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August 23, 2020, 10:42:44 PM
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AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.
From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.
There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.
It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.

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AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.
From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.
There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.
It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.
Why they have to report it to the WHO? WHO is not going to create a vaccine they are just here for nothing and RUSSIA continuously reported everything through media but may not be much transparent in what they are said and this happens with every government as well because in this vaccine race every government wants to win.

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