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August 21, 2020, 03:34:10 PM
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I don't think so, if you look at the history of the country that first controlled the economy in the Dutch world with an organization called the VOC, I don't know what happened because I didn't read in detail but after that the market conditions were controlled by the US for a long time, even their currency was USD used as the value of the world currency, that's what we can see now if you are trading in forex, USD is almost in all currency pairs, but China seems to be showing its strength after almost dominating the entire market because their exports are so large, and also because this pandemic is profitable China which is rumored to have been free from corona while America is in the most terrible position.

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August 21, 2020, 03:42:32 PM
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The Chinese are very good at building the economy into social manipulation. The Chinese are many and they are very united to become a network. They have different ways of economic development, they are closely organized together.
The belt and road initiative was theirs, and they stuck smaller countries into debt by lending them money. China's debt recovery is difficult and they ask to be exchanged by renting an area for 50 years-100 years. This happened in African countries. I think they will let their people travel the world and gradually take over the world.

The one belt and one road initiative is actaully one of the impressive things they are planing and its gradually making sense now. Its like building the Silkroad again and all the countries where this road goes are going to benefit including the cointries in UK as its where its going. This is why they are making friends with the countries there including the countries in Africa.

If China can make it, so are the countries where this road is built.



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August 21, 2020, 04:44:17 PM
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The Belt and Road Initiative is a scary neo-domination tactic that China is employing right now. This is a money trap for the poor countries (including mine) that promises prosperity but when in fact it is a ruse to take a piece of a nation's land.

Here is how I understood this money trap works. China is creating a new Silk Road that is not based of lands but most of it are in the water and air, they will offer help to third world countries by giving them funds to create infrastructures like ports, skyscrapers or airfields. There will be a timeframe for this help to be paid and as a poor country they offer exorbitant amount of money which is impossible if not difficult to be paid and then here is where the trap works, when the country can't pay the debt then the other option happens where China will have full control over the infrastructure including the land, basically they are buying lands from this nation without really buying it. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they haven't paid their debt.
Any powerful country will do something like this, the economy of China is incredibly powerful, even after they were hit with the epicentre of the pandemic they were able to recover really quickly and instead they are now the ones that are helping other countries, besides I really think that the Chinese do not really trust that their dollars are going to be worth something for long and they are trying to find ways to get rid of them in any way they can and by doing this they are weakening the dollar as well which makes it a win-win situation for them.
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August 21, 2020, 04:55:50 PM
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If we compare China and the United States, then the Chinese government is pursuing a very tough policy towards all large companies and small and medium-sized businesses, where everyone works for the good of the country, and not for the good of their own pockets, as is done in the United States. That is why it is much easier in China to get out of any economic crisis.
Yes we all know it the Chinese people tend to be a great business man among other countries they know how to manage their wealth, they know how to make a strategy during hard times, that will not let them to fall in a big debt, and most especially, their economic stability has been handled very well, that is what I am seeing in China, I guess some countries cannot do this thing, in China patriotism is one of the main thing they implementing.
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August 21, 2020, 05:21:30 PM
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If we compare China and the United States, then the Chinese government is pursuing a very tough policy towards all large companies and small and medium-sized businesses, where everyone works for the good of the country, and not for the good of their own pockets, as is done in the United States. That is why it is much easier in China to get out of any economic crisis.
Yes we all know it the Chinese people tend to be a great business man among other countries they know how to manage their wealth, they know how to make a strategy during hard times, that will not let them to fall in a big debt, and most especially, their economic stability has been handled very well, that is what I am seeing in China, I guess some countries cannot do this thing, in China patriotism is one of the main thing they implementing.
I think Chinese people are very wise and hustler in doing things that can make their country  above others. Like now in Covid 19 pandemic,We all know that covid virus came from Wuhan China but look what happened? Other country getting worst and have more covid cases than China, it means they are very smart, I think or they just know the Cure that's why they recover easily from this and their economy didn't collapse.

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China had been in a battle for centuries, the country had experienced it all since time of the Xang to Qin Dynasty and then once again crumble and back up again to what they are now. The time of war is over for China. They won't engage in war the first unless you provoke them in the contested borders.

They are going to build roads for easy access to countries from east to west. Chinese are not into wars, they are businessmen and any country can grow with them.

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August 21, 2020, 07:16:09 PM
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China had been in a battle for centuries, the country had experienced it all since time of the Xang to Qin Dynasty and then once again crumble and back up again to what they are now. The time of war is over for China. They won't engage in war the first unless you provoke them in the contested borders.

They are going to build roads for easy access to countries from east to west. Chinese are not into wars, they are businessmen and any country can grow with them.

   I agree with you Electronicash, Chinese seems as business oriented, they have done
son much in the last centuries, they build huge empire with big labor force, cheap
product affordable by anyone. We can criticize them, but they are doing their job
and they are getting richer. They are aware that wars can ruin everything they did
and war can just slow down their economic rise.



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August 21, 2020, 08:31:00 PM
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China had been in a battle for centuries, the country had experienced it all since time of the Xang to Qin Dynasty and then once again crumble and back up again to what they are now. The time of war is over for China. They won't engage in war the first unless you provoke them in the contested borders.

They are going to build roads for easy access to countries from east to west. Chinese are not into wars, they are businessmen and any country can grow with them.

   I agree with you Electronicash, Chinese seems as business oriented, they have done
son much in the last centuries, they build huge empire with big labor force, cheap
product affordable by anyone. We can criticize them, but they are doing their job
and they are getting richer. They are aware that wars can ruin everything they did
and war can just slow down their economic rise.
That's the reason why they're avoiding war and just starting a different war that maintains their foundation. Once a military war started, they're finished and all of the countries will definitely start from scratch. If a huge reset has begun, other countries will adopt those strategies of those leading countries to develop their economy.

So instead of starting a military war, they're conquering some of the countries to build their economy and make the other countries vow to them. This situation we are facing right now is their chance to make their economy bigger and it does really happen right now. They became more powerful and the relationships of each country are getting worst.

Bio war is also a brilliant move and looked what happened right now, most of the countries right now are vulnerable and stunned, they can't even bring their economy go up anymore.

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August 21, 2020, 10:35:09 PM
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China had been in a battle for centuries, the country had experienced it all since time of the Xang to Qin Dynasty and then once again crumble and back up again to what they are now. The time of war is over for China. They won't engage in war the first unless you provoke them in the contested borders.

They are going to build roads for easy access to countries from east to west. Chinese are not into wars, they are businessmen and any country can grow with them.

   I agree with you Electronicash, Chinese seems as business oriented, they have done
son much in the last centuries, they build huge empire with big labor force, cheap
product affordable by anyone. We can criticize them, but they are doing their job
and they are getting richer. They are aware that wars can ruin everything they did
and war can just slow down their economic rise.
That's the reason why they're avoiding war and just starting a different war that maintains their foundation. Once a military war started, they're finished and all of the countries will definitely start from scratch. If a huge reset has begun, other countries will adopt those strategies of those leading countries to develop their economy.

So instead of starting a military war, they're conquering some of the countries to build their economy and make the other countries vow to them. This situation we are facing right now is their chance to make their economy bigger and it does really happen right now. They became more powerful and the relationships of each country are getting worst.

Bio war is also a brilliant move and looked what happened right now, most of the countries right now are vulnerable and stunned, they can't even bring their economy go up anymore.
Bio war is also a battle of economy. We are already in 21st century and conquering through global wars seems not to be effective because we live now in a liberal world. Another thing is that, the nuclear weapon of every countries who hold nuclear is destructive that can make earth a living hell. So, instead of fighting through wars, they make it in a modern way to conquer a country. Right now, we are in cold war. If our economy collapses, assume that we will fall to the bait of 1st world countries. That is when we had a trillion of dollars borrowed to their country. Philippines is the best example of a country that will be baited in this war.

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August 22, 2020, 02:12:07 AM
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Chinese have a good culture in terms of money,  actually a lot of Chinese are migrating in my country to build business that will provide goods and services. There are many Chinese that are really financial literate where they keep finding opportunities in every economies. The problem in my country is people are used to be employee, I want to clarify first that there is nothing wrong about employee but the thing is the opportunities are less. They are used to comfortable life and it seems that they want to have employees mindset in their life time.

Actually, chinese are really love money. Most of thw manufacturing companies in my community is owned by a chinese. China is becoming powerful country, they managed to beat a lot of countries when it comes to GDP.  Their country is also rich with minerals and natural resources that makes their country to become rich more.
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Actually, chinese are really love money. Most of thw manufacturing companies in my community is owned by a chinese. China is becoming powerful country, they managed to beat a lot of countries when it comes to GDP.  Their country is also rich with minerals and natural resources that makes their country to become rich more.
Do you think China will try and make their own currency to replace Bitcoin since they are so against it? I think people already know how China tries to control so much in their country
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August 22, 2020, 06:53:51 AM
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I dont want to leave in the world there China is controlling everything. I hope that US and/or EU will do something about it
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August 22, 2020, 09:47:34 AM
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I dont want to leave in the world there China is controlling everything. I hope that US and/or EU will do something about it

Yeah the same for me. Dictatorship never worked in the long run. Eventually people will become fed up with it and rebel against it. I honestly don't understand how the Chinese people accept so easily to be controlled on a large scale. So many Chinese people have education outside of China. In many UK universities the there are almost 50% of the master students from China. Once they graduate they go back to China but at least they saw a different life, without full control by the government.
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August 22, 2020, 11:27:40 AM
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If we think an economic giant name then there is no doubt to mention the name of China. Because their has a growing stable economic system. In this pandemic situation, China still keeps her economy stable and that's amazing. Many big countries failed to show this. So it can be said that China is winning the economic wars.

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August 22, 2020, 12:08:11 PM
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I don't see much of a difference between China and the Colonialist countries either, not just the Nazis.

Well, the main difference would be that the Colonialists (including the Nazis) conquered the third-world countries while today China uses trade tactics to subjugate them instead of conquering them militarily.

They just employing the tactics in the book "Book Of War" conquer the enemy without fighting and they used their financial power to do that not by a arm struggle or war, and they are good at it so many poor countries are deep in debt and whatever they want to do these countries cannot complain.
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August 22, 2020, 03:48:03 PM
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as a whole, this thread is correct. China is leading the way in the world economy. The battle between China and the US should be the starting point for the third world war. In the past, China was always humiliated because it had legalized something that is generally prohibited globally, namely piracy. China is very aggressive with their ideology of imitating goods. They made copies of similar physique but of very poor quality. From there they began to open minds and get ideas to modify it. And they did well with Huawei, Alibaba, Tencent, Sinopec etc.
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August 22, 2020, 04:06:34 PM
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It's seriously noticeable how all of us from no where keep talking about china and how they are making fuss around the world. Its damn thinkable why this is the case about the china. The only short answer for this, they really making things amazing for themselves.

They are the game changers and they think ahead of the world. Who would have thought they will outbreak deadly disease and take down the throne of USA from thousands of miles away. I mean come on rest of the world moans in soreness and they are living happy life at this very moment.

China has got no chills man!
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August 23, 2020, 08:37:36 AM
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But mainly, I think countries should be aware of the disadvantages of taking loans. Loans are very bad thing, although I know that some economists like to spit nonsense on how important loans are, lol, for me I am not in agreement with that, loans can be a drawback.

I know that the developing countries you are referring to, their leaders don’t are about all these disadvantages, they are all ready to sell their countries to the Chinese government to get loans from them. After all is said and done it’s only the poor people that are going to suffer from it, the rich people won’t. The rich guys can decide to move to another country and move their businesses with them and that’s it, the poor ones can stay back and suffer. Very bad.
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August 23, 2020, 01:54:35 PM
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I dont want to leave in the world there China is controlling everything. I hope that US and/or EU will do something about it

China does have a monopoly in the manufacturing sector, but they don't control everything. The luxury and high-end manufacturing is still under the control of Japan/EU/US. And as the wealth level increases, these products will become more popular and that will adversely effect China's market share. So I am not worried about the Chinese monopoly, which may only be a temporary phenomenon.
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August 23, 2020, 04:53:42 PM
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I dont want to leave in the world there China is controlling everything. I hope that US and/or EU will do something about it

China does have a monopoly in the manufacturing sector, but they don't control everything. The luxury and high-end manufacturing is still under the control of Japan/EU/US. And as the wealth level increases, these products will become more popular and that will adversely effect China's market share. So I am not worried about the Chinese monopoly, which may only be a temporary phenomenon.
I wouldn't want that neither but I also do not want USA or EU to do anything neither, I hate china so if I was given an option of China or USA or EU at least I would pick EU that way I could say that they are not good people but at least they do not have that ill intention in a very backwards way, they would try to profit economically at the very worst and that is fine, they wouldn't make you go backwards in political way. Compare that to USA and China, they are very backwards countries, I already live in a backwards country so they would make it even worse.

Look at Syria and ISIS, that is basically what USA did that caused ISIS to grow bigger and bigger, or look at what China is doing at Hong Kong, they are trying to own them by brute force. I just want every nation to be independent, why can't we have big nations not meddle with other nations.

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