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August 23, 2020, 05:25:42 PM
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I dont want to leave in the world there China is controlling everything. I hope that US and/or EU will do something about it

China does have a monopoly in the manufacturing sector, but they don't control everything. The luxury and high-end manufacturing is still under the control of Japan/EU/US. And as the wealth level increases, these products will become more popular and that will adversely effect China's market share. So I am not worried about the Chinese monopoly, which may only be a temporary phenomenon.

China has indeed been recognized as a certain world market share and I do not see that China will dominate Menopoli like many people think, for a certain share it is true. I agree that for certain products where the share of wealthy people is still the superpower in the world in trade, once again the share is different and will not affect that.

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August 24, 2020, 05:41:19 AM
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I dont want to leave in the world there China is controlling everything. I hope that US and/or EU will do something about it

China does have a monopoly in the manufacturing sector, but they don't control everything. The luxury and high-end manufacturing is still under the control of Japan/EU/US. And as the wealth level increases, these products will become more popular and that will adversely effect China's market share. So I am not worried about the Chinese monopoly, which may only be a temporary phenomenon.
I wouldn't want that neither but I also do not want USA or EU to do anything neither, I hate china so if I was given an option of China or USA or EU at least I would pick EU that way I could say that they are not good people but at least they do not have that ill intention in a very backwards way, they would try to profit economically at the very worst and that is fine, they wouldn't make you go backwards in political way. Compare that to USA and China, they are very backwards countries, I already live in a backwards country so they would make it even worse.

Look at Syria and ISIS, that is basically what USA did that caused ISIS to grow bigger and bigger, or look at what China is doing at Hong Kong, they are trying to own them by brute force. I just want every nation to be independent, why can't we have big nations not meddle with other nations.

I don't know whether it is proper to compare the United States with China. I am not condoning what the US did in Iraq and Libya. But IMO, China is far worse. They are picking up fight with almost all of their neighbors. They are bullying weaker neighbors such as the Philippines and Bhutan. At least the US is not bullying democratic nations (at the time of US intervention, both Iraq and Libya were dictatorships).
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August 24, 2020, 11:50:57 AM
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I wouldn't want that neither but I also do not want USA or EU to do anything neither, I hate china so if I was given an option of China or USA or EU at least I would pick EU that way I could say that they are not good people but at least they do not have that ill intention in a very backwards way, they would try to profit economically at the very worst and that is fine, they wouldn't make you go backwards in political way. Compare that to USA and China, they are very backwards countries, I already live in a backwards country so they would make it even worse.

Look at Syria and ISIS, that is basically what USA did that caused ISIS to grow bigger and bigger, or look at what China is doing at Hong Kong, they are trying to own them by brute force. I just want every nation to be independent, why can't we have big nations not meddle with other nations.
Why do we have to choose who we want to dominate? Why aren't people allowed to live in balance, why always choose the lesser evil when most of us deserve something better.

Correction in regards to Hongkong issue, China technically owns Hongkong but they are not following the rule by forcing Hongkong into their fold by 204u but they are enforcing it thus devoiding the agreement which does not ring good for Cantonese as they have a high degree of autonomy like Macau.

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August 24, 2020, 07:20:32 PM
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I wouldn't want that neither but I also do not want USA or EU to do anything neither, I hate china so if I was given an option of China or USA or EU at least I would pick EU that way I could say that they are not good people but at least they do not have that ill intention in a very backwards way, they would try to profit economically at the very worst and that is fine, they wouldn't make you go backwards in political way. Compare that to USA and China, they are very backwards countries, I already live in a backwards country so they would make it even worse.

Look at Syria and ISIS, that is basically what USA did that caused ISIS to grow bigger and bigger, or look at what China is doing at Hong Kong, they are trying to own them by brute force. I just want every nation to be independent, why can't we have big nations not meddle with other nations.
Why do we have to choose who we want to dominate? Why aren't people allowed to live in balance, why always choose the lesser evil when most of us deserve something better.

Correction in regards to Hongkong issue, China technically owns Hongkong but they are not following the rule by forcing Hongkong into their fold by 204u but they are enforcing it thus devoiding the agreement which does not ring good for Cantonese as they have a high degree of autonomy like Macau.

yes. there is a treaty for it. i don't know why these people are saying china is owning hongkong by brute force. for once in your lives, you just have to watch real news that doesn't have any intention and ulterior motives. look at what hongkong now, are the chinese there to barricade them and prevent them from doing anything?  the chinese are even there to put peace.  the reason why the hongkongers are trying to react that way is because of the extradition agreement to criminals.
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August 26, 2020, 05:42:42 PM
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As per the Coronavirus. Isn’t it clear that they were the ones who created the virus as a way to lure these developing countries to take loans from them and then fall into their trap, since most of them will be unable to pay back?

I don’t think people were lying when they said the virus was created by China. Every move they have been taking since the Coronavirus says a lot about them being behind the Coronavirus, like they seem to be more prepared ahead of the time for the breakout than every other country. And when the pandemic started, they have been acting nice to these developing countries and sending doctors and nurses to them, then they are also buying companies that failed, and giving out loans lol.
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August 26, 2020, 05:47:12 PM
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as a whole, this thread is correct. China is leading the way in the world economy. The battle between China and the US should be the starting point for the third world war. In the past, China was always humiliated because it had legalized something that is generally prohibited globally, namely piracy. China is very aggressive with their ideology of imitating goods. They made copies of similar physique but of very poor quality. From there they began to open minds and get ideas to modify it. And they did well with Huawei, Alibaba, Tencent, Sinopec etc.
While you are correct when you say that the previous two world wars had an economic war going on before we got to the actual war, this time is different, I think that we're going to see is similar to what happened after World War II in which countries will not risk such a war due to the fear of atomic weapons and as such the USSR and the US engaged themselves in a cold war that included proxy wars, culture wars, the space race and even the Olympic Games.
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August 26, 2020, 06:13:29 PM
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As per the Coronavirus. Isn’t it clear that they were the ones who created the virus as a way to lure these developing countries to take loans from them and then fall into their trap, since most of them will be unable to pay back?

I don’t think people were lying when they said the virus was created by China. Every move they have been taking since the Coronavirus says a lot about them being behind the Coronavirus, like they seem to be more prepared ahead of the time for the breakout than every other country. And when the pandemic started, they have been acting nice to these developing countries and sending doctors and nurses to them, then they are also buying companies that failed, and giving out loans lol.
Yeah and they're denying that the virus which is COVID-19 came from their country. It's their strategy to conquer other third world countries because they can't sustain their economy.

Try to read this article: https://abc7.com/lab-bioweapon-wuhan-coronavirus-update/6107891/

They made a fast recovery to the pandemic and of course, they have the facilities and good health care system and it seems that they are super prepared on this.
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August 27, 2020, 03:37:13 PM
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The Belt and Road Initiative is a scary neo-domination tactic that China is employing right now. This is a money trap for the poor countries (including mine) that promises prosperity but when in fact it is a ruse to take a piece of a nation's land.

Here is how I understood this money trap works. China is creating a new Silk Road that is not based of lands but most of it are in the water and air, they will offer help to third world countries by giving them funds to create infrastructures like ports, skyscrapers or airfields. There will be a timeframe for this help to be paid and as a poor country they offer exorbitant amount of money which is impossible if not difficult to be paid and then here is where the trap works, when the country can't pay the debt then the other option happens where China will have full control over the infrastructure including the land, basically they are buying lands from this nation without really buying it. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they haven't paid their debt.

What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag

Source for what happened to Sri Lanka: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40044113

This is arguably a trap strategy by offering loans to other countries with the aim of helping build infrastructure that the two parties believe can work together solidly. But on the other hand, a country that receives a loan from China indirectly pawns its land, if it is unable to pay the debt, then as a guarantee China will control the place.

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August 27, 2020, 04:16:26 PM
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I believe that China again can surprise us very much, because according to the Caixin magazine, over the past three months the Chinese economy has shown very good and stable growth, and I would also like to note the fact that the Chinese industry is showing very high growth rates today. Which is the highest figure in the last ten years.

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August 28, 2020, 02:08:35 AM
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Economically, China has great power to develop its country as well as to help other countries that need economic assistance. For me it is not a trap, but an agreement from the two countries. so what happened is a consequence of the agreement.
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August 28, 2020, 02:17:34 AM
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Source for what happened to Sri Lanka: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40044113

One of China's cleverness in creating business networks in other countries so that it is able to have a large enough impact on the country's economy, and only promises jobs for the country it is living in, namely Sri Lanka.

Here the Sri Lankan government cannot do much, because indeed the offer of employment with a fixed salary for its residents is a quite profitable exchange to move the wheels of the domestic economy.
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August 28, 2020, 02:36:34 AM
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No matter who wins the war ,still there are people who suffers from this because the officials are just staying in their mansions eating luxury foods and accommodations while people are in deep problem and almost no small foods in their tables.

Is this what they really want to happen?winning their war while many is affected Badly?









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August 28, 2020, 03:14:26 AM
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No matter who wins the war ,still there are people who suffers from this because the officials are just staying in their mansions eating luxury foods and accommodations while people are in deep problem and almost no small foods in their tables.

Is this what they really want to happen?winning their war while many is affected Badly?

its not like there will be a loser in this war.
the only who will lose are the countries thay are not going to develop along with the ones growing up. china for instance is growing in many aspects, countries partnering up with them will also improve. 

their people will also grow. resisting chinese growth will only end up into conflict.





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August 28, 2020, 04:14:53 AM
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This is also a formidable strategy from China. Actually, economists have seen this for a long time and they are condemning the Chinese government. It seems that they are expanding and disrespecting any country, we are really soft towards them.
Hopefully in the future, countries will have a way to stop the current Chinese expansion so that everything will be peaceful. I hate war and don't want any political uncertainty to happen.
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August 28, 2020, 06:44:59 AM
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~snip~
Source for what happened to Sri Lanka: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40044113

One of China's cleverness in creating business networks in other countries so that it is able to have a large enough impact on the country's economy, and only promises jobs for the country it is living in, namely Sri Lanka.

Here the Sri Lankan government cannot do much, because indeed the offer of employment with a fixed salary for its residents is a quite profitable exchange to move the wheels of the domestic economy.
Thats hbow great their strategy is,they are feeding other countries before they Make their meat available in table.
Chinese cheats many country and even US once their victim thats why the Debt of US to them is really good amount.
Economically, China has great power to develop its country as well as to help other countries that need economic assistance. For me it is not a trap, but an agreement from the two countries. so what happened is a consequence of the agreement.
Nope we knew Chinese they will only Give if there is something they can receive so please don't Give justification on what they do all over the world.
Look how they dominate the ocean in Asian territory in which many countries has claims?

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August 28, 2020, 02:17:57 PM
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China's economy has won the war it is their new strategy. They did not suffer much damage compared to other countries. Their economic system has been able to improve very quickly as it has become much stronger. But they are working on keeping their information secret. Despite the dominance of the sea many countries were not bound by the treaty as many countries were affected. But with China's economy the United States is far ahead. China has strategically won this war.
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August 28, 2020, 06:08:46 PM
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This is also a formidable strategy from China. Actually, economists have seen this for a long time and they are condemning the Chinese government. It seems that they are expanding and disrespecting any country, we are really soft towards them.
Hopefully in the future, countries will have a way to stop the current Chinese expansion so that everything will be peaceful. I hate war and don't want any political uncertainty to happen.
China is a communist country and a communist country known for not really appreciating other countries...
I read on the news that in the last few months the Chinese economy has continued to grow, to be honest, I don't believe this. when the first time this outbreak appeared, they did a scene as if this outbreak was very deadly but the reality is not, I have seen enough of the falsehoods they display.



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August 29, 2020, 06:05:19 AM
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China has been doing this for so many years already. And now that there’s a pandemic happening, they’re taking advantage of the situation.

They’ve been doing land gabbing not only in Ph, but also to other neighboring south east asian countries. While the countries and its people are focused on addressing how to combat covid-19 they are building infrastructures along Scarborough Shoal (Panatag Shoal) which is a part of West Philippines Sea. They’re drilling and mining the natural resources of other countries to use and make a profit out of it as if they own it.

Another thing they’re indeed famous for is money trapping. This pandemic, many third world countries are struggling and have no choice but to borrow large amount of money. China lets these countries be indebted to them with a certain interest rate. Most of these countries are really poor that can’t afford to pay on time resulting to accumulated financial debts. China would then discretely move to take away little by little the seas or lands of these countries. Since they’re indebted to China, these countries can’t even stand against.

This results to China becoming more powerful and dominating over the poor countries. Its economy tends to prosper while those little countries are having difficulties to put themselves together.
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Economically, China has great power to develop its country as well as to help other countries that need economic assistance. For me it is not a trap, but an agreement from the two countries. so what happened is a consequence of the agreement.
So it is alright for you to let China take control of the infrastructures built by the money being borrowed? Do you think that the agreement of taking control of the infrastructure and the land of your own country is a just consequence? I think no because this is clearly an invasion to a land and if you do not see it then you are blind or ignorant.

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August 29, 2020, 10:30:11 AM
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Economically, China has great power to develop its country as well as to help other countries that need economic assistance. For me it is not a trap, but an agreement from the two countries. so what happened is a consequence of the agreement.
So it is alright for you to let China take control of the infrastructures built by the money being borrowed? Do you think that the agreement of taking control of the infrastructure and the land of your own country is a just consequence? I think no because this is clearly an invasion to a land and if you do not see it then you are blind or ignorant.
Colonization is already working from those countries who borrowed money from china. I have heard that there is a country that sold some parts of its land to china because of unpaid debt. I do not want that to happen in my country and all this will depend on the leaders that will take care every debt being made.

Hopefully that china also will going to give chance to all whos in debt because they too became the reason of this pandemic which started in their place.
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