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August 22, 2020, 08:12:01 AM
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Mostly gambling sites upon registration is just asking for username, email address and password to enter the gambling sites. There are also sites that asks to check if you are already 18+ to be able to complete the registration which can be bypassed by minors for there are no requirements asked just honesty to state that you are really an adult or teenager aging 18+ to be liable on registering into an online gambling site. Many people are avoiding sites that were asking for KYC for they are afraid of the private informations to be shared online because it might be used to illegal transactions once the site you have got is a scam one which can steal your identity and make use of it with other activities.

Even if there is KYC process, still minors can do bypass the process by using other identification card to complete the registration. There is no other thing that we can control the situation but just to have a tight observation on kids not to get involved on online gambling sites although the aim of some is just to play for the sake of having fun this quarantine. We must keep in mind that there are still restrictions to be observed for minors not to get involved into those kind of games. This thing is really hard to be taken care of for we cannot monitor 24/7 the activities of the minors we have in home. But if we educate them and have awareness of clearing things out that they must not get involved in online gambling while they are still minors, maybe they would understand.
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August 22, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
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Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.
No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.









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August 22, 2020, 10:08:45 AM
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Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.

Children will find their way around KYCs.

You know how smart and intelligent these kids are nowadays. They could just borrow or make their parents sign up in these sites with KYCs and they will use it. There are cases that these parents are already signed up in these sites and their children are just playing using that. The internet is the most influential place for them, they could even buy information they could use there, it is that easy for them. Then there are those sites without KYCs.
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August 22, 2020, 10:13:13 AM
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Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.
No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

Agree, I think it is not really a big requirement even in some big gambling websites having a KYC is not a requirement at all I guess gambling websites already realize this, and most of the gamblers are not willing to do KYC just for the gambling websites security, etc. Maybe age restriction could be a thing at some point anyone could do gambling online since it doesn't require any identifications. There are already thousands of gambling websites online and probably a big percentage of it is not legitimate or not legal and probably scam websites giving such information is really risky at some point since required ID could easily be used in other scams, also websites online and operating worldwide on the internet you can't really make a complaint about a scam website or their company if they leak your identity since it would make a big hassle if the company is from a different country.

A lot of people would recommend gambling websites that is trusted here in the forum and still don't required KYC.
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August 23, 2020, 02:49:10 AM
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No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

Before someone can have VIP status, they need to verify themselves because they can get many benefits that are not available for regular members. Many people think that they don't have to be a VIP and prefer to be regular members because they don't need that status. They only want to play gambling and make money if they are lucky.

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Children will find their way around KYCs.

You know how smart and intelligent these kids are nowadays. They could just borrow or make their parents sign up in these sites with KYCs and they will use it. There are cases that these parents are already signed up in these sites and their children are just playing using that. The internet is the most influential place for them, they could even buy information they could use there, it is that easy for them. Then there are those sites without KYCs.

I am sure the kids can do that easily because they know how to get that. Suppose an adult person leaves his computer open with the last activity that person did, and then the kids who sit at the front of the computer will continue to use that computer, and they can mess it because I got that with some of my nephews. Imagine if we leave the computer with the gambling site is the last thing that we did, the kids will know, and they will find how to play the games. When it comes to the internet, they can get anything they want by browse many websites.
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August 23, 2020, 09:20:33 AM
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I am sure the kids can do that easily because they know how to get that. Suppose an adult person leaves his computer open with the last activity that person did, and then the kids who sit at the front of the computer will continue to use that computer, and they can mess it because I got that with some of my nephews. Imagine if we leave the computer with the gambling site is the last thing that we did, the kids will know, and they will find how to play the games. When it comes to the internet, they can get anything they want by browse many websites.

At his point all the parents can do is restrict their internet usage.

There are a lot of softwares they can get for them to restrict sites that can influence them into gambling or maybe the adult industry. Each ISPs, as far as I know have these Parental Controls or Parental Locks they can take advantage of so they could monitor or block these sites.
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August 23, 2020, 09:48:53 AM
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There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

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August 23, 2020, 10:05:50 AM
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No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

Before someone can have VIP status, they need to verify themselves because they can get many benefits that are not available for regular members. Many people think that they don't have to be a VIP and prefer to be regular members because they don't need that status. They only want to play gambling and make money if they are lucky.
No need for verification they just need to take the subscription to enjoy the perks and in online gambling it is not going to make much different and many of the gambling sites doesn't have such feature as well because here everyone treated equally.









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August 24, 2020, 04:13:33 AM
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At his point all the parents can do is restrict their internet usage.

There are a lot of softwares they can get for them to restrict sites that can influence them into gambling or maybe the adult industry. Each ISPs, as far as I know have these Parental Controls or Parental Locks they can take advantage of so they could monitor or block these sites.

If their kids have a mobile phone, they can restrict them from visiting the gambling site, porn site, or another site, so the kids will not have a chance to visit on that site. The parents need to check their kids' mobile phones and advise their kids to use their mobile phones for good things. I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

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No need for verification they just need to take the subscription to enjoy the perks and in online gambling it is not going to make much different and many of the gambling sites doesn't have such feature as well because here everyone treated equally.

Yes, you are right. Many gambling sites are created for giving another pleasure for people, so they can use the gambling site to having fun or spend their free time. But people finally lose control while they play gambling, and many of them are losing their money too.
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August 24, 2020, 06:37:13 AM
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There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.
That will surely lower the player of each sites if they implement KYC,remember specially gamblers don't wanna reveal their details thats why there are many Gambling sites that taking advantage of this,they don't ask for KYC until you won big amount and they will surely bugged you after that.

The best way still is the help pf family,watching their family member to not become addicted in gambling would be a  big help.









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August 24, 2020, 07:26:59 AM
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There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.
That will surely lower the player of each sites if they implement KYC,remember specially gamblers don't wanna reveal their details thats why there are many Gambling sites that taking advantage of this,they don't ask for KYC until you won big amount and they will surely bugged you after that.

The best way still is the help pf family,watching their family member to not become addicted in gambling would be a  big help.
well that is the risk that occurs when someone does KYC at a gambling place because your data and identity cannot be hidden anymore even though such an identity must be kept secret and not just anyone knows, so I think look for a gambling place that doesn't need to do KYC like a place. Fortunejack gambling which can be an alternative gambling place.

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August 24, 2020, 07:30:17 AM
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There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

I agree.This is the correct way to even prevent smart kids from accessing these gambling sites.The parents can use software in which to tell the DNS server that any website with the words for example “bet,slot,casino” to redirect to an error message.Also the parents should make sure the children to use not an account with administrator privileges as this guarantees they cannot install software such Vpn to bypass the DNS redirect.

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August 24, 2020, 07:45:14 AM
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I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.
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August 24, 2020, 12:31:33 PM
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There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

The parents or the guardians should be the one to do that because they are the one that has constant communication and control over the child's behavior, the online casinos can only perceive that those who are joining and playing are matured gambling, the gambling casinos cannot prevent access because people can always use VPN, gambling sites will always allow people who want to play and be entertained.

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August 24, 2020, 01:10:44 PM
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This is important. Gambling is not something which allows everyone to engage into it. There's that risk of being addicted into it. If ever kids will not be prohibited to enter or play in  gambling sites, not to be exaggerated, but this might push young people to steal in order for them to play. They don't have source of income more likely, so it is really possible.

Gambling sites should really pay attention into this matter by strengthening the requirements for a player to be able to enter the room. KYC sometimes is not enough and I hope there would be a way to regulate and avoid this possibility. And if there is already, I would like to know how it is done.

That is all good and well, but it would take our freedom as well. For instance there are some country's that prohibits online gambling, and in order to escape that restriction, a gambler needs an anonymous site that doesn't require private data to play on it. So in the end, there's no evidence if the government questions his networth.

Maybe, parents should educate and watch their children more often, rather than blaming the gambling site that's only there for entertainment.

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August 24, 2020, 05:28:57 PM
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While I approve the age restrictions as it is known that your brain is not fully formed until your mid-20s, this means a kid and anyone underage is not ready to take responsible decisions with their money and they need to be restricted to get access to casinos.

In the case of physical casinos this is very easy to do as you could ask people to show you an identification in the case they seem to be too young to be there, but when it comes to online casinos this gets more complex, many fiat casinos allow you to play without forcing you to go through KYC and they only do that once you try to cash out, this allows minors to gamble all they want as long as they do not want to withdraw and when you add cryptocurrencies to the mix this seems like one of those issues that has no easy solution.

Gambling and not withdrawing doesn't make sense. No one wants to come up empty.

But yes its always going to be complicated for an online casino to check their users. Minors can just use anyone's ID especially if the system doesn't use sophisticated AI that wil check faces and documents.
It doesn't make sense but since when the actions of those that are addicted to gambling makes sense? Someone that is addicted to gambling and that he is too young to gamble in online fiat casinos will play without a doubt with the hope to win but since they cannot control themselves they will probably keep betting until their balance hits zero and they will have no money to withdraw, then they will deposit money in their accounts and the cycle will begin again.

It is my opinion that this is precisely why casinos do not ask for KYC in the beginning and only do so when you're trying to withdraw because they know they can obtain a lot of money out of those people and still follow the regulations.

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August 25, 2020, 01:11:21 AM
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I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.
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I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

No matter what are kids our doing, as long as they are open in media and on the internet, they can still learn how to gamble. Mobile Legends game for example, they might ask for us to buy them diamond (game credits) for them to have their favorite skins or whatever it is that could make the game even better. But the fact that game creators are doing the best way they can to increase the game's profitability, they are implicitly adding gambling in mystery boxes and skins. This has the element of gambling which consists of multipliers and chances to win something. In the end, if we didn't supervised our children, they might be used to it, and the real gambling soon.

Just an advise to always learn what our kids our doing so we know if they are being exposed early to gambling.
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I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

No matter what are kids our doing, as long as they are open in media and on the internet, they can still learn how to gamble. Mobile Legends game for example, they might ask for us to buy them diamond (game credits) for them to have their favorite skins or whatever it is that could make the game even better. But the fact that game creators are doing the best way they can to increase the game's profitability, they are implicitly adding gambling in mystery boxes and skins. This has the element of gambling which consists of multipliers and chances to win something. In the end, if we didn't supervised our children, they might be used to it, and the real gambling soon.

Just an advise to always learn what our kids our doing so we know if they are being exposed early to gambling.

Since we are talking about Mobile Legends.

I don't know if a lot of people know about this but while browsing their menus and some of their promotions, I found this page where they give some points to players and they can use it to bet on a team whenever there is a tournament. It is sports betting and that in-game currencies might be a way for them to buy a skin in the game.
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August 25, 2020, 06:40:20 AM
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I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

I am sure kids can bypass that because they can search for the right way to break it and visit what they want. It is not just about how we can anticipate them to visit on something that they should not yet visit, but how we can stay beside them to explain what they can visit and what they should not visit.

I agree that communicating will be the solution to them, so they can understand that when they are online, there will be many bad things that can harm their minds, especially because they are still kids.
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